Apart from a few wet ears, nobody trusts Thein Sein. Any one left now should see a psychiatrist as he has repeated and unashamedly shown that he can bleat rubbish like Myit Sone Dam stoppage and stopping the Kachin war and all sorts of craps for lies. He is just a speaker for his true masters as Mr Wilson understands very well.
Even though the desperate public are clinging onto Aung San Suu Kyi as an only hope of liberation from al sorts of repression and giving her undue credit for the sudden degree of release of pressure in urban areas, unless there is tangible progress, the tide can easily turn as popular opinion is fickle as in George W Bush being the most popular and the worse popular president in his own lifetime of presidency.
Again although average Burmese couldn’t care less about Kachin deaths, they do take notice of the fact that Thein Sein or whoever controlling the country is killing their own people for the Chinese. And all are conscious that Than Shwe is a million time more powerful than currently fronting clowns all of whom are always rushing to lick Than Shwe’s good-for nothing grandson’s boots. All these are visible in spite of Aung San Suu Kyi’s exhortation otherwise.
Majority Burmese of these statistics in the article are in Thailand as sweatshop workers or whores, same in Malaysia. Some, only some, other countries do have a lot of people with technical know-how. But a large proportion of them may donate some money for nostalgic value but would never go back or have any association, a lot of them will go back to join the carpet baggers in hordes along with some companies advised by some ex-ambassadors from a few countries.
A lot of people who can really help and want to help will always be on a look out to do so but would not do it until Aung San Suu Kyi , who has done a 180 turn and kicked a lot of people in the gut doing so, has shown that she is at least something more than Thein Sein’s publicist.
Even the named gentlemen of repute running various celebrated websites will require true change of law to protect them rather than business as usual of “released at the President’s pleasure” because even though they have been crowing the man’s extensive quality they understand he is a hollow man and would still prefer long distance relationship when their own lives are concerned.
“It all certainly evokes memories of another ill-fated crackdown, namely General Pallop Pinmanee р╕Юр╕▒р╕ер╕ер╕а р╕Ыр╕┤р╣Ир╕Щр╕бр╕Ур╕╡ at Krue Sae Mosque under the nominal command of Thaksin Shinawatra.”
Except that Pinmanee was ordered by Chavalit on orders of Thaksin NOT to attack Krue Sae.
I don’t mind a proper critique of Thaksin and he certainly deserves that and certainly needs to answer on the WoD but lying about stuff just doesn’t help anything.
Abhisit was in Camp 11 giving direct orders to the army to attack the UDD.
Thaksin was 1000s of KM anyway ordering troops NOT to attack.
Comparing the two events as having some kind of equivalence is just pure PAD propaganda.
Perhaps Abhisit would like to explain what he thinks angered the Cluster Munition Coalition and the international community when he gave an explanation about Thailand cluster bombing Cambodia.
If TKNS is so untruthful and the Thai government can prove that it is untrue, the avenues are open for them to sue Yale University Press for defamation anytime. But up until today, no one from the Thai Government ever filed a charge in the US Courts to sue Yale University for publishing this book yet. Don’t you think it is weird?
For me, if anyone writes a book about me, and the book contains so much lies and defamation which paints me in such a bad light from loads of untruthful information, and the Court in the country which publishes this book is independent and unbiased (such as the US Courts), I will do everything to sue the publisher of that book and squeeze every cent I can possibly get from them.
TKNS paints the K in a very bad light. It is published by Yale University Press, which definitely is a wealthy organisation that can afford to pay huge damages. The Court in the USA is among the most reputable and independent. They will not accept bribes from Yale University to make a ruling in its favour for sure.
….so why the Thai Government did not seek injunction for them to publish this book? And after the book has been distributed, why the Thai Government did not sue them for defamation?
The answer is…because they know they wouldn’t win. Because the information in that book…is true.
@Leah Hoyt,
The anser to your first question: “Would you please post a link to the Youtube video”? is now no.
The reason is in your second paragraph in which you try to blackmail me into doing so by saying I must establish my credibility.
If you are so interested in it, look for yourself, or contact any Military Attache who was in Bangkok at the time. Or, as the clip was aired at the Military Attache’s briefing shortly after the incident and former Deputy Prime Minister Suthep refused to answer the same question then, I thought it would be appropriate to ask the former Prime Minister now.
I would like to know the source of your quotes from President Thein Sein, as I think that he has always refered to national “reconsolidation” rather than “reconciliation”. The New Light of Myanmar’s reproduction of the President’s first anniversary speech to parliament on March 1 this year is the most recent example of the President focusing on reconsolidation. In the context of Burma/Myanmar, “reconsolidation” is associated with overcoming supposed threats to the disintegration of the union, whereas “reconciliation” is associated not only with rapprochement between the constituent nations of the state but also the promotion of truth and justice for victims of human rights abuse.
I suggest that this distinction undermines the author’s assertion that the views of Aung San Suu Kyi and the President on reconciliation are almost identical. There are indeed substantive reform and peace processes in motion, but I suggest that national reconciliation is not yet on the agenda.
Since Khin Nyunt’s time ( or may be well before that), the Burmese military has been extremely good at calculated news dropping and doping the masses and these selected articles are master class in “How to give false impression professionally” on a par with the WMD’s which was a concerted effort by all so-called reputable news outlets under the guidance of few “Media Moguls” knowing that they were false but wrote them to lie to the gullible public for an excuse to kill off the Iraqi to get the oil which today’s Americans enjoy everyday as if drinking the dead Iraqi’s blood every time they switch on their car ignition.
Yet even sadder story is- at least seemingly- total disregard of the sufferings of their brethren by the low land citizens of Burma and their Leader Aung San Suu Kyi whose total national unity effort seems to be simply multiple jacket displays as in a pantomime.
A spokesman for your party is making coup threats. What part of democracy don’t they understand?
You say you believe in rule of law and that all persons should be equal before that law. Why then haven’t you insisted an MP of your party, Kanchit, answers police questions regarding his possible involvement in the murder of a Pheu Thai supporter? Why haven’t you even demanded Kanchit be expelled from your party for refusing to answer police questions? Or is it ok to murder people in the Democrat Party?
The news excerpts from Myanmar government well explained itself why Kachins are still fighting for.
– Almost all names mentioned in the news are Burmese names (except U La John Ngan Hsai who is a Buddhist and Myanmar government handpicked him because of his belief; while more than 98% of Kachins are Christians.) in a state called Kachin State.
– It shows that how Burmans colonized indigenous Kachinland by appointing all officials Burmese.
– No mentioned about Internally displaced persons (one can actually go and see with his own eyes rather than reading articles)
Let it Be was the Beatles last released album although the penultimate album recorded. My sympathies are with Sir Paul Macartney who, being nearly 70, shouldn’t be forced to see his oeuvre so brutally abused by a murderously tone deaf oligarch.
Be it love or hatred, political sentiments are constantly created or exaggerated purposely in Thailand. Thaksin is not alone in this.
When Thaksin can at least return on legitimate legal ground, he will move on to woo those who are now against him to fall in love with him again. Once those who create the hatred against him also agree to the lucrative reconciliation plan, they take no effort to drop accusations against Thaksin.
There will be a time Thaksin and Prem shaking hands and smiling or Thaksin and Abhisit shaking hands and smiling.
But really what Thaksin needs is just a photo where the King smiles at him.
“My Way” was originally a French song – the English lyrics were written by Paul Anka – it has never even been part of the Beatles repertoire…
You’re probably confusing the song with “Something”, which was written by George Harrison. Sinatra also recorded this, and thought it the greatest love song ever written.
In Khmer ‘Siem Reap’ translates roughly as ‘Thais defeated’….. So the joke is on the tourists… As if Thaksin’s massacre of a great Beatles song wasn’t funny enough….. Along with the excruciating, rictus grins of his appalled and embarrassed dollar-a-day-flunkies…. No one dares tell the boss he can’t sing?…. Certainly not poor old Thida who once again is elbowed to the back by one big thug or another….
Don’t mean to overstay my welcome, but readers of this thread might be interested to peruse:
Gainsborough, Martin (2010). “Present but not Powerful: Neoliberalism, the State, and Development in Vietnam.” Globalizations.
Volume 7, Issue 4.
ABSTRACT
“Through a case study of Vietnam, this paper explores what happens to neoliberal ideas about development when they encounter the very different political and cultural context of a developing country. The paper argues that although much scholarship tends implicitly or explicitly to emphasise the very great power of neoliberal institutions in our world today, an analysis of continuity and change in Vietnam during two decades of extensive engagement with neoliberal actors suggests that the influence of neoliberalism on the working of the Vietnamese state has been relatively small. The paper seeks both to document and explain this through an account which is attentive to both structure and agency and which in turn sheds new light on the nature of power in our world.”
—
p. 476: “My research on Vietnam dating back to the very early reform years places me firmly in the camp of those who question the power of neoliberalism, specifically leading me to argue that despite 20 years of reform, which has involved extensive engagement with a wide range of neoliberal actors, the state in Vietnam remains little changed in terms of its underlying political philosophy and many of its practices.”
> “in front of a crowd of 30,000 Red Shirts celebrating the Songkran Festival in Cambodia”
Drop the Red Shirt hype please. You could at least have inserted “up to” like the AFP report: “Up to 30,000 people had gathered at the site, according to Siem Reap deputy provincial governor Bun Tharith, although an AFP reporter at the scene said the crowd appeared closer to 10,000“.
A Kachin I speak to every now and then has told me that there have been clashes almost every day, with the tatmadaw usually getting the worst of it.
When I asked if any foreign volunteers were assisting the Kachin, he replied that the only foreigners he had seen were Chinese.
Interesting.
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Seeking practical benefits from national reconciliation in Myanmar
Apart from a few wet ears, nobody trusts Thein Sein. Any one left now should see a psychiatrist as he has repeated and unashamedly shown that he can bleat rubbish like Myit Sone Dam stoppage and stopping the Kachin war and all sorts of craps for lies. He is just a speaker for his true masters as Mr Wilson understands very well.
Even though the desperate public are clinging onto Aung San Suu Kyi as an only hope of liberation from al sorts of repression and giving her undue credit for the sudden degree of release of pressure in urban areas, unless there is tangible progress, the tide can easily turn as popular opinion is fickle as in George W Bush being the most popular and the worse popular president in his own lifetime of presidency.
Again although average Burmese couldn’t care less about Kachin deaths, they do take notice of the fact that Thein Sein or whoever controlling the country is killing their own people for the Chinese. And all are conscious that Than Shwe is a million time more powerful than currently fronting clowns all of whom are always rushing to lick Than Shwe’s good-for nothing grandson’s boots. All these are visible in spite of Aung San Suu Kyi’s exhortation otherwise.
Majority Burmese of these statistics in the article are in Thailand as sweatshop workers or whores, same in Malaysia. Some, only some, other countries do have a lot of people with technical know-how. But a large proportion of them may donate some money for nostalgic value but would never go back or have any association, a lot of them will go back to join the carpet baggers in hordes along with some companies advised by some ex-ambassadors from a few countries.
A lot of people who can really help and want to help will always be on a look out to do so but would not do it until Aung San Suu Kyi , who has done a 180 turn and kicked a lot of people in the gut doing so, has shown that she is at least something more than Thein Sein’s publicist.
Even the named gentlemen of repute running various celebrated websites will require true change of law to protect them rather than business as usual of “released at the President’s pleasure” because even though they have been crowing the man’s extensive quality they understand he is a hollow man and would still prefer long distance relationship when their own lives are concerned.
Questions for Abhisit Vejjajiva
Jon Fernquest
“It all certainly evokes memories of another ill-fated crackdown, namely General Pallop Pinmanee р╕Юр╕▒р╕ер╕ер╕а р╕Ыр╕┤р╣Ир╕Щр╕бр╕Ур╕╡ at Krue Sae Mosque under the nominal command of Thaksin Shinawatra.”
Except that Pinmanee was ordered by Chavalit on orders of Thaksin NOT to attack Krue Sae.
I don’t mind a proper critique of Thaksin and he certainly deserves that and certainly needs to answer on the WoD but lying about stuff just doesn’t help anything.
Abhisit was in Camp 11 giving direct orders to the army to attack the UDD.
Thaksin was 1000s of KM anyway ordering troops NOT to attack.
Comparing the two events as having some kind of equivalence is just pure PAD propaganda.
Questions for Abhisit Vejjajiva
Perhaps Abhisit would like to explain what he thinks angered the Cluster Munition Coalition and the international community when he gave an explanation about Thailand cluster bombing Cambodia.
Critical review of King Bhumibol’s life
If TKNS is so untruthful and the Thai government can prove that it is untrue, the avenues are open for them to sue Yale University Press for defamation anytime. But up until today, no one from the Thai Government ever filed a charge in the US Courts to sue Yale University for publishing this book yet. Don’t you think it is weird?
For me, if anyone writes a book about me, and the book contains so much lies and defamation which paints me in such a bad light from loads of untruthful information, and the Court in the country which publishes this book is independent and unbiased (such as the US Courts), I will do everything to sue the publisher of that book and squeeze every cent I can possibly get from them.
TKNS paints the K in a very bad light. It is published by Yale University Press, which definitely is a wealthy organisation that can afford to pay huge damages. The Court in the USA is among the most reputable and independent. They will not accept bribes from Yale University to make a ruling in its favour for sure.
….so why the Thai Government did not seek injunction for them to publish this book? And after the book has been distributed, why the Thai Government did not sue them for defamation?
The answer is…because they know they wouldn’t win. Because the information in that book…is true.
Questions for Abhisit Vejjajiva
@Leah Hoyt,
The anser to your first question: “Would you please post a link to the Youtube video”? is now no.
The reason is in your second paragraph in which you try to blackmail me into doing so by saying I must establish my credibility.
If you are so interested in it, look for yourself, or contact any Military Attache who was in Bangkok at the time. Or, as the clip was aired at the Military Attache’s briefing shortly after the incident and former Deputy Prime Minister Suthep refused to answer the same question then, I thought it would be appropriate to ask the former Prime Minister now.
Seeking practical benefits from national reconciliation in Myanmar
I would like to know the source of your quotes from President Thein Sein, as I think that he has always refered to national “reconsolidation” rather than “reconciliation”. The New Light of Myanmar’s reproduction of the President’s first anniversary speech to parliament on March 1 this year is the most recent example of the President focusing on reconsolidation. In the context of Burma/Myanmar, “reconsolidation” is associated with overcoming supposed threats to the disintegration of the union, whereas “reconciliation” is associated not only with rapprochement between the constituent nations of the state but also the promotion of truth and justice for victims of human rights abuse.
I suggest that this distinction undermines the author’s assertion that the views of Aung San Suu Kyi and the President on reconciliation are almost identical. There are indeed substantive reform and peace processes in motion, but I suggest that national reconciliation is not yet on the agenda.
Stop Lynas, Save Malaysia
Thank you and Good Job… very touching video…
I like it alot…
Thanks guys…
Kachin State: Don’t mention the war
Kachin Hillman,
Unfortunately you are absolutely right.
Since Khin Nyunt’s time ( or may be well before that), the Burmese military has been extremely good at calculated news dropping and doping the masses and these selected articles are master class in “How to give false impression professionally” on a par with the WMD’s which was a concerted effort by all so-called reputable news outlets under the guidance of few “Media Moguls” knowing that they were false but wrote them to lie to the gullible public for an excuse to kill off the Iraqi to get the oil which today’s Americans enjoy everyday as if drinking the dead Iraqi’s blood every time they switch on their car ignition.
Yet even sadder story is- at least seemingly- total disregard of the sufferings of their brethren by the low land citizens of Burma and their Leader Aung San Suu Kyi whose total national unity effort seems to be simply multiple jacket displays as in a pantomime.
Questions for Abhisit Vejjajiva
http://www.dailynews.co.th/politics/22526
A spokesman for your party is making coup threats. What part of democracy don’t they understand?
You say you believe in rule of law and that all persons should be equal before that law. Why then haven’t you insisted an MP of your party, Kanchit, answers police questions regarding his possible involvement in the murder of a Pheu Thai supporter? Why haven’t you even demanded Kanchit be expelled from your party for refusing to answer police questions? Or is it ok to murder people in the Democrat Party?
Critical review of King Bhumibol’s life
“when his mind was still whole”
Is that the reason he lets people languish in jail in his name?
(its hard to think of any other ‘excuse’ for such an atrocity – can you?)
Kachin State: Don’t mention the war
The news excerpts from Myanmar government well explained itself why Kachins are still fighting for.
– Almost all names mentioned in the news are Burmese names (except U La John Ngan Hsai who is a Buddhist and Myanmar government handpicked him because of his belief; while more than 98% of Kachins are Christians.) in a state called Kachin State.
– It shows that how Burmans colonized indigenous Kachinland by appointing all officials Burmese.
– No mentioned about Internally displaced persons (one can actually go and see with his own eyes rather than reading articles)
When Thaksin comes home
Jayzee…. No.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5caKcwe6sM&feature=share
Let it Be was the Beatles last released album although the penultimate album recorded. My sympathies are with Sir Paul Macartney who, being nearly 70, shouldn’t be forced to see his oeuvre so brutally abused by a murderously tone deaf oligarch.
When Thaksin comes home
Agree with MangoBoy.
Be it love or hatred, political sentiments are constantly created or exaggerated purposely in Thailand. Thaksin is not alone in this.
When Thaksin can at least return on legitimate legal ground, he will move on to woo those who are now against him to fall in love with him again. Once those who create the hatred against him also agree to the lucrative reconciliation plan, they take no effort to drop accusations against Thaksin.
There will be a time Thaksin and Prem shaking hands and smiling or Thaksin and Abhisit shaking hands and smiling.
But really what Thaksin needs is just a photo where the King smiles at him.
When Thaksin comes home
“My Way” was originally a French song – the English lyrics were written by Paul Anka – it has never even been part of the Beatles repertoire…
You’re probably confusing the song with “Something”, which was written by George Harrison. Sinatra also recorded this, and thought it the greatest love song ever written.
When Thaksin comes home
Re: Jon – I had it in the footnote somewhere that 30,000 was Thaksin’s own estimate. Apology that the footnotes were not shown.
When Thaksin comes home
In Khmer ‘Siem Reap’ translates roughly as ‘Thais defeated’….. So the joke is on the tourists… As if Thaksin’s massacre of a great Beatles song wasn’t funny enough….. Along with the excruciating, rictus grins of his appalled and embarrassed dollar-a-day-flunkies…. No one dares tell the boss he can’t sing?…. Certainly not poor old Thida who once again is elbowed to the back by one big thug or another….
The straw man critique of neoliberalism in Cambodia
Hi there:
Don’t mean to overstay my welcome, but readers of this thread might be interested to peruse:
Gainsborough, Martin (2010). “Present but not Powerful: Neoliberalism, the State, and Development in Vietnam.” Globalizations.
Volume 7, Issue 4.
ABSTRACT
“Through a case study of Vietnam, this paper explores what happens to neoliberal ideas about development when they encounter the very different political and cultural context of a developing country. The paper argues that although much scholarship tends implicitly or explicitly to emphasise the very great power of neoliberal institutions in our world today, an analysis of continuity and change in Vietnam during two decades of extensive engagement with neoliberal actors suggests that the influence of neoliberalism on the working of the Vietnamese state has been relatively small. The paper seeks both to document and explain this through an account which is attentive to both structure and agency and which in turn sheds new light on the nature of power in our world.”
—
p. 476: “My research on Vietnam dating back to the very early reform years places me firmly in the camp of those who question the power of neoliberalism, specifically leading me to argue that despite 20 years of reform, which has involved extensive engagement with a wide range of neoliberal actors, the state in Vietnam remains little changed in terms of its underlying political philosophy and many of its practices.”
When Thaksin comes home
> “in front of a crowd of 30,000 Red Shirts celebrating the Songkran Festival in Cambodia”
Drop the Red Shirt hype please. You could at least have inserted “up to” like the AFP report: “Up to 30,000 people had gathered at the site, according to Siem Reap deputy provincial governor Bun Tharith, although an AFP reporter at the scene said the crowd appeared closer to 10,000“.
Questions for Abhisit Vejjajiva
3 Questions.
Have you ever thought of developing a true democratic party in Thailand, or if there was such a party would you be for it or against it?
Do you think you will ever be Prime minister again without the help of the military?
Do you think Thailand will still be a monarchy in 10 years time?
Kachin State: Don’t mention the war
A Kachin I speak to every now and then has told me that there have been clashes almost every day, with the tatmadaw usually getting the worst of it.
When I asked if any foreign volunteers were assisting the Kachin, he replied that the only foreigners he had seen were Chinese.
Interesting.