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  1. Dickie Simpkins says:

    Dear Nick,

    I have your first book (got it from Asia books a while back)

    then got another copy for a friend of mine who works at the State Dept. in DC

    Your books are an awesome resource and a thoroughly researched on the field analysis of the red and yellow phenomena in the Thai streets. There are not any factual accounts on the street chronicling the events in 2010 (and 2009 for that); and what I really like about you is that there is a clear line from when you are offering an opinion or a supposition based upon the evidence(s) in front of you and when you are stating things as just matter of fact.

    People who cannot read or tell the difference between the 2 are just fools.

    As for Jim Taylor whose ‘interviews’ and “sources” have been suspect for a few years now; I think your ‘disagreement’ of the on-ground events with Nick, and your subsequent criticism of him of not reporting things based on the “storyline” as well as your earlier criticism and disagreement with Somsak J on how the Reds are financed, I can only come to one conclusion (that I have come to years ago and continue to share it). Your cheerleading is a absolute disgrace to the academic community. Sure you can take sides, you can be biased, we are all human; but you are an apologist ready to fight with anyone who doesn’t follow the storyline as it (apparently) needs to be told.

    I for one would trust a man who was there, who has taken photographical and written evidence of what was there, over your suspect sources any day.

    Good work Nick, as always.

  2. Suwonenarde smith (Bunnag) says:

    I will be in Phuket on the 15/4/11 and BAngkok on the 23/4/11 I would love to meet some of my relations while I am there my father was living in hua hin at the beach resort near the kings resort I have been told I have a half brother and sister that I would love to meet and any other family member. My father’s name was Douluan Bunnag when we moved to thailand when we were little we lived at239/1 soi pharnuvongse, Sukhumvit road Samrong Samutprakarn my mothers name was Nancy Bunnag if anyone knows anything I would love to hear from you I live at … N.S.W. … Australia email [email protected]

    Hope to hear from someone so

    Suwonenarde Smith

  3. Somkid says:

    Tony, this is a little more than “a shred” of evidence:

    http://thainews.prd.go.th/en/news.php?id=255204160028

    Maybe this “evidence” was planted by the same globalist conspiracy that Thai royalists are resisting so bravely.

    No offense, but on matters of national tragedies I would much sooner believe a government that lets people like you peddle your “9/11 Truther” conspiracies, than a government that has put this many people in prison for speaking out of turn.

  4. Observer says:

    Tossaporn,

    You should avoid racist comments such as “Falang Ngo Thang Lai”. You wrote those comments in Thai, but others can read them too, and you are just showing how closed minded you are, and how racist you are. It just makes you look bad. If you provide reasonable explanations regarding your views, and evidence to back them up, you will have much more of an impact. So far, you are just proving the point of those who disagree with you.

  5. Tarrin says:

    Tony -20

    This might not be the evidence that you are looking for but I’m sure it comes pretty close, at the end of the clip u can see (and hear) that the soldiers start shooting at the taxi. Unfortunately the people and shoot the clip (obviously are on the opposite side with the red) turn away the camera before we know what happened to the driver.

    http://video.mediathai.net/detail_clip.php?tv=3910

    I’m almost sure the taxi driver is dead,

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  7. Moe Aung says:
  8. Nareeya says:

    Tossaporn Sirak:

    I think you’re the only one being paranoid about how others are saying that the king is corrupt. From what I read, first it was just a discussion about who actually owns CPB. Even if indeed the king owns it, no one really said anything about how he could be corrupted yet. If we want to go even earlier than that, I don’t think that just because Nich cited an excerpt from another article which happens to say how much the King of Thailand is worth hardly warrant your accusation of him “picking on the King”.

    However, it does make me wonder about why we have this argument of who actually owns CPB in the first place. Really, if it’s the matter of how the country of Thailand really own that $30 billion or whatever, why do we have to go through so many hoops or trace so many steps and still argue over who really controls the money. If it’s really that transparent, then why can’t we simply say Thailand can use that fund to implement development projects or fight poverty in the rural areas? It really makes you wonder, doesn’t it?

    You’re a student, right? Be curious, ask a lot of questions. Don’t believe things just because you’ve been hearing about it all your life. Look at information rationally and not emotionally. To tell you the truth, we’re lucky to have access to information that we otherwise wouldn’t be able to if we’re in Thailand (I assume you’re living abroad). At least then you’re able to weigh one piece of information against another and really look at it from different perspectives. To me, that really says something within itself, doesn’t it? Why does some information has to be censored if monarchy is really as transparent and magnificent as the government says? If something is good, then it should be able to be investigated and criticized without throwing people in jail left and right, doesn’t it?

    As a Thai person, I still have hope for my country that one day we will be able to ask certain questions without fearing for our freedom and have constructive arguments based on facts and figures rather than emotional responses.

  9. SteveCM says:

    c18

    Sorry, TC – I don’t do doctrinal debate.

  10. michael says:

    Nick, Book 1 was great – factual, human, objective to a degree that most of the press (especially Thai) is not, chronicling events in a sequence that is not available elsewhere, & with superb photos. In short it’s very valuable documentation. I’m proud to have been at the launch, & disappointed to have been unable to be at the launch of Book 2, although I will get a copy, of course. Thank you for doing this; I admire your guts & your clear, unbiased vision, & ability to avoid sensationalism. Chai yo!

    Tony, what precisely do you object to about Prachatai? Do you ever read it? I do. As far as I can see, it’s one of the few intelligent sources of information and analysis of what’s going on in Thailand. I don’t know if your comments about one of their funding sources is true, & I don’t really care, because it’s fairly clear that they won’t be bought. (BTW, “1.5 million” what? Baht? Dollars? And can you give us a source?) They certainly don’t seem to like Thaksin, whose media clamp-down actually led to their coming into existence.

  11. LesAbbey says:

    Jim Taylor – 10

    that a strange attitude Nick: “I do not pay much attention to your interviews…

    Far from it being my job to put words in others mouths, but Jim, the problem may well be that it’s not just me that regards much of what you write as propaganda rather than any attempt at getting to the truth. It’s like the story of the boy who cried wolf.

  12. Maung Maung says:

    Dear Moe Aung,
    Certainly you are chauvinistic by calling your self Maha Bamar, a word coined by the late Dr Ba Maw, chancellor of Burma during the Japanese occupation and appointed by the Japanese. Dr Ba Maw acted like a Burmese king and he reliished being treated as such although he had some Armenian blood in him!
    Now Kalay Declaration of the Minorities states that all ethnic minorities would regard the Burman and all other ethnic groups equal and will live together without secession in a federal union that the NLD also agreed. If that spirit has prevailed in 1948 Burma could have avoided the fratricidal civil war.
    Don’t you think it’s chauvinistic for the Karen to establish a separate Karen State comprising almost the whole of Lower Burma and Tenasserim Division plus the present Karen and Mon States when they started the insurrection in 1949. So are the Kacin for trying to establish such an independent Kachin Sate. So too are the Shan rebels (Colonel or General Yerd Seik) who recently declared that the Shan State is already well demarcated from Burma and other states.
    I would prefer all ethnic groups including Bamar enjoying equality, justice and fraternity in a federal union with each state for each ethnic group or people in geographical states like the USA.

  13. Donald Persons says:

    This Thai history website lists 23.

    http://www.iseehistory.com/index.php?lay=show&ac=article&Id=5329067&Ntype=9

    Furthermore they name unsuccessful changes of governments as rebellions (р╕Бр╕Ыр╕П) and the successful ones as coups (р╕гр╕▒р╕Рр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕лр╕▓р╕г)

  14. Moe Aung says:

    It’s not just rock stars, even a low neck line (not a cleavage) comes pixellated in Korean and Western serials on Burmese TV. It’s not like porn cannot be had or no massage parlours around. And what do their crony business class use for their sales promotions and launches? Scantily clad models in provocative poses like anywhere else.

  15. Moe Aung says:

    Maung Maung,

    It is rather regrettable that your attitude to minorities appears to be “put up and shut up”. Petty chauvinism? Pot calling kettle black? Certainly looks very superficial and arbitrary to me, and I belong to the Maha Bamar.

  16. Tony says:

    Somkid – where is the evidence that any red shirts died in 2009? One shred of evidence? It’s not the government’s word that I’m considering, its the lack of evidence on the part of the accusers that I am working from. They have not produced a single shred of evidence to date.

    I have not once cited the government in any regard on any topic.

    As far as 9/11 goes – what about stating 9/11 was an inside job is a “deranged conspiracy theory?” Have you gone over the evidence objectively, or do you just dismiss out of hand that the government could kill 3,000 of its own people based on a pack of lies? …. even though they’ve since then killed 4,700 of their own people in the Iraqi war based on an admitted pack of lies. Not to mention this conversation has nothing to do with 9/11 and you are just building a strawman to knock down. More intellectual dishonesty and shameless ploys – what one can only expect on New Mandala.

  17. Somkid says:

    It’s interesting that Tony would take the Thai government at its word that nobody died in April 2009, but at the same time subscribes to the deranged conspiracy theory that 9/11 was an inside job: http://info-wars.org/2010/09/11/tony-cartalucci-911-was-an-inside-job/

  18. Tony says:

    BKK Lawyer, Nick said “I have no proof though. An anonymous witness in the Amsterdam report claimed that there were 6 or so dead. I can’t go that far, as I have no proof. But I do think that this number is within the possible range, given what I saw there.”

    So no proof, anonymous witness in a paid lobbyist’s report, and another affirmation of no proof. Yet he still thinks its “possible.” And don’t forget, the whole point of trying to suggest open-endedly anyone was killed is to justify the actions of the hired mercenaries that showed up on April 10, 2010.

    This is intellectual dishonesty par excellence. It is completely shameful and unbecoming of anyone who claims to be a journalist, academic, or even just an upright citizen in general.

    I am not biased, because I haven’t taken any side. I simply recognize a billionaire with foreign backing running a “grassroots” movement complete with Maoist run political indoctrination camps as an abomination of real freedom and democracy, and find it hard to believe Nick, you, or Andrew Walker believe anything that you write trying to say otherwise…

  19. Tony says:

    Nick; no worries, I don’t expect much from someone who writes entire books with “no evidence” to back them up. You are literally rehashing PTP propaganda repeated almost verbatim from Thaksin’s paid lackeys. I stand by my comment that your scribblings here deride both New Mandala’s legitimacy as well as ANU’s.

    Steve; I strongly suggest you do some reading, perhaps about the banking cartels starting with JP Morgan and the British/German banking houses, as well as “company towns,” and political machines like “Tammany Hall.” This is all basic history you learn in high school.

    If that’s how bad it was back then, how bad do you suspect it is now? What magical advent transformed the core of human nature and prevents such horrible injustices and corruption from taking place today? Calling people wackos is a desperate recourse and no longer works. People are waking up and with these cartels murdering people overseas and now robbing people at home, the awakening is growing exponentially.

    And what Andrew Walker describes nearly every time he puts pen to paper explaining what the red shirts are, he literally describes a Thai version of Tammany Hall. Can a man with a PhD be that ignorant? Perhaps that’s why I believe he is peddling an agenda rather than objectively examining the subjects he covers on “New Mandala.” I refuse to believe he is that ignorant. I have but a high school diploma but I did stay awake in history class when Tammany Hall was covered. If you are commenting on politics but don’t know what a political machine is – esp. if you have a degree, or worse yet, a PhD, you should be ashamed – and when you write entire papers on the subject while ignoring historical and contemporary realities you also insult the intelligence of your readership.

    Both Nick, and Andrew literally sustain themselves by preying on the ignorance of their audience, as do you Steve…

    Please explain to me Steve why Freedom House is nominating the NED funded Prachatai for some Internet Web award in Germany… and why the Neo-Con wing that constitutes both Freedom House and NED’s board of directors are so concerned with Thai “independent journalism.” Is it not slightly suspicious that these men are also all connected to the Fortune 500 corporations that backed the now defunct US-Thai FTA? Would it not benefit them to back someone like Thaksin – who in return would give them their FTA or similar concessions? To brush that off as a wacky conspiracy theory is either ignorance or willful dishonesty.

    Economic imperialism (now called “economic liberalization”) has been the goal of the British and now the Americans since the 1855 Bowring Treaty – or did you miss that in high school history as well?

  20. BKK lawyer says:

    Tony’s diatribes are hardly worth a response, but here’s a quick point to address his and other comments on Nick Nostitz’s reporting. Tony tries to discredit Nostitz by purportedly quoting him as “admitting” “I have no evidence.” No such statement appears anywhere in Nostitz’s post or followup comments. He did say this:

    Different than what the government and the military stated – shots were fired directly into the Red Shirt protesters, there definitely were injured protesters, and possibly even a few killed. I have no proof though. An anonymous witness in the Amsterdam report claimed that there were 6 or so dead. I can’t go that far, as I have no proof. But I do think that this number is within the possible range, given what I saw there. At the time protesters pointed to me where they said that they had to leave corpses behind, but it was just too dangerous to go to the locations they pointed out to me.

    Nostitz is clearly not making conclusions without proof. Instead, he is clearly distinguishing between what he can support with proof and what he cannot support with proof, as an honest journalist would do.

    His reporting is as fact-specific as you can find anywhere, and he identifies what he knows and what he doesn’t know. So I don’t understand the recurring criticism of Nostitz as biased — except that the criticism usually comes from people who reveal a bias themselves, and maybe they don’t like solid reporting of inconvenient facts.