If it does actually happen, the election will be an excellent opportunity to find out whether the thai electorate is as gullible & contemptible as the Democrat Party clearly thinks they are.
After presiding over the death of more than 90 citizens to avoid a legitimizing election and installing the ‘right’ military & police chiefs, they have seen the writing on the wall (cannot artificially hold down prices much longer), and are now seen to be the ones who want an election – everyone else keep up if you can.
A little help from the military and the judiciary doing the ‘right’ thing over the last few years, and their PAD friends have chimed in just on time to make the Demorats appear to be the only middle ground between those red & yellow shirted crazies.
wow…an exhausting tracing of what’s what, indeed. Thanks for the effort. I’ll share this train of thought with some moderate, educated Thai friends but expect not much more than an “it’s complicated” -response.
Thailand’s obscurely feudal-friendly constitution is as anachronistic as the USAs’ fear of communism/socialism…but the smokescreen design is so sophisticated that it is impenetrable by logic or the realities of the 21st century.
At the beginning of 1976 and at the beginning of 1980 military pressure forced out prime ministers in “silent coups”. The former resulted in new elections; the latter saw Prem take power for 8 years. Should at least 1980 not be included in this list?
I think you’ll find that the large volume of ” thumbs down” reaction you get has rather more to do with your habit of making extravagant statements with zero back-up than whether they happen to run counter to others’ views. Your tilt at “strong pro-Thaksin corruption-is-ok let’s-forget-Thaksin’s-anti drugs-extrajudicial-police-killings liberal views that pervade hereat” is just the most recent example of many.
It has certainly been my experience of NM that an against-the-tide point well-made and supported with evidenced reasoning rather than dogmatic sniping is welcomed not scorned. That’s reflected in subsequent comments as well as in which thumb is chosen.
Again it is arguable whether the CP assets are The King’s personally, or, of the state. And we will have to defer to resolution of this issue
Its is troubling indeed that you and I would have to discuss about the ownership of the CPB. We shouldn’t have to discuss about CPB at all if the whole affair is indeed “transparent”. Don’t you think its a bit wired that we cannot even agree on who is actually own the CPB?
Now I think we should clear things up, I have looked up the “р╕Юр╕гр╕Ъ р╕Ир╕▒р╕Фр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Ър╕╡р╕вр╕Ър╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М 2491тА│. like Paul’s suggested.
and I will referred to this link http://www.baanjomyut.com/library/law/02/096.html
Note that I’m not a law practitioner here so my translation and interpretation is of my own understanding so everyone is welcome to correct me.
The р╕Юр╕гр╕Ъ has split the asset in to following categories
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 4* р╣Гр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Ър╕▒р╕Нр╕Нр╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕Щр╕╡р╣Й
“р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣М” р╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Вр╕нр╕З р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕нр╕вр╕╣р╣Ир╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зр╕Бр╣Ир╕нр╕Щр╣Ар╕кр╕Фр╣Зр╕Ир╕Вр╕╢р╣Йр╕Щр╕Др╕гр╕нр╕Зр╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕кр╕бр╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤ р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕гр╕▒р╕Рр╕Чр╕╣р╕ер╣Ар╕Бр╕ер╣Йр╕▓ р╕п р╕Цр╕зр╕▓р╕в р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕бр╕▓р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╣Гр╕Щр╕Чр╕▓р╕Зр╣Гр╕Фр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╣Ар╕зр╕ер╕▓р╣Гр╕Фр╕Щр╕нр╕Бр╕Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Чр╕гр╕З р╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕бр╕▓р╣Гр╕Щр╕Рр╕▓р╕Щр╕░р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М р╕Чр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕Щр╕╡р╣Й р╕гр╕зр╕бр╕Чр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕Фр╕нр╕Бр╕Ьр╕ер╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Бр╕┤р╕Фр╕Ир╕▓р╕Б р╕Ър╕гр╕гр╕Фр╕▓р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╣Ар╕Кр╣Ир╕Щр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щр╕Фр╣Йр╕зр╕в
Under article 4
His majesty’s personal asset, or assets that are belong to him before he took the throne either from state donation or any other mean during his reign including any interest and dividend.
“р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕кр╕▓р╕Шр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╕кр╕бр╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ьр╣Ир╕Щр╕Фр╕┤р╕Щ” р╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щ р╣Гр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Лр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╣Гр╕Кр╣Йр╣Ар╕Юр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Вр╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╣Мр╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ьр╣Ир╕Щр╕Фр╕┤р╕Щр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╣Ар╕Йр╕Юр╕▓р╕░ р╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Хр╣Йр╕Щр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕зр╕▒р╕З
Public asset (not sure about translation here): asset under his majesty that is solely used for the benefit of public such as the Palace
“р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М” р╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╣Гр╕Щ р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Щр╕нр╕Бр╕Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣Мр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕кр╕▓р╕Шр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╕кр╕бр╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤ р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ьр╣Ир╕Щр╕Фр╕┤р╕Щр╕Фр╕▒р╕Зр╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕з
The King’s asset means asset other than his majesty’s personal asset and the public asset.
From what I see here is just the categorization of the asset, doesn’t explicitly say who is managing what then article 4 said
*[р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 4 р╣Бр╕Бр╣Йр╣Др╕Вр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Ър╕▒р╕Нр╕Нр╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕п (р╕Йр╕Ър╕▒р╕Ър╕Чр╕╡р╣И 3) р╕Ю.р╕и. 2491)
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 4 р╕Чр╕зр╕┤* р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Вр╕╢р╣Йр╕Щр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕лр╕Щр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╣Ар╕гр╕╡р╕вр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М” р╕бр╕╡р╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Ыр╕Пр╕┤р╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╣Гр╕Щ р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 5 р╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕кр╕нр╕З
Article 4: to set up the Crown Property Bureau (CPB) which will act in accordance with article 5 clause 2
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 4 р╕Хр╕гр╕╡* р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕бр╕╡р╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕лр╕Щр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╣Ар╕гр╕╡р╕вр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М” р╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕Бр╕нр╕Ър╕Фр╣Йр╕зр╕вр╕гр╕▒р╕Рр╕бр╕Щр╕Хр╕гр╕╡р╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕▓р╕г р╕Бр╕гр╕░р╕Чр╕гр╕зр╕Зр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Др╕ер╕▒р╕Зр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕Шр╕▓р╕Щр╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Хр╕│р╣Бр╕лр╕Щр╣Ир╕З р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕нр╕╖р╣Ир╕Щр╕нр╕╡р╕Б р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Щр╣Йр╕нр╕вр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ 4 р╕Др╕Щ р╕Лр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Ир╕░р╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Зр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕З р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╣Гр╕Щр╕Ир╕│р╕Щр╕зр╕Щр╕Щр╕╡р╣Й р╕Ир╕░р╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Зр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕зр╕вр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М 1 р╕Др╕Щ
The Board of Director or the Director of CPB composed of The Minister of Finance as the chairman and other directors no less that 4 that are appoint by the King, one of the director shall act as president of the CPB
р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕бр╕╡р╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕▓р╕Ир╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Фр╕╣р╣Бр╕е р╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Чр╕▒р╣Ир╕зр╣Др╕Ыр╕Лр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╕Бр╕┤р╕Ир╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М
The function of the Director of CPB is to generally take care of CPB operation.
р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕зр╕вр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М р╕бр╕╡р╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕▓р╕Ир╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣И р╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕бр╕нр╕Ър╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕в р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕бр╕╡р╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕▓р╕Ир╕ер╕Зр╕Кр╕╖р╣Ир╕н р╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕кр╕│р╕Др╕▒р╕Нр╕Ьр╕╣р╕Бр╕Юр╕▒р╕Щр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М
The president of CPB is report directly to the board of CPB and has legal binding and power of attorney tied to the CPB.
Now, from reading article 4 alone I dont think the ministry of finance has much say in the CPB affair other than sitting as the chairman since the directors are all appointed by the king. However, as it is might not be clear enough to say the King own the “public asset” stated in in the first half of article 4.
However, in article 5
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 5* р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕кр╕▓р╕Шр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╕кр╕бр╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ьр╣Ир╕Щр╕Фр╕┤р╕Щр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щ р╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Ър╕гр╕гр╕Фр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╣Ар╕Др╕гр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Зр╕нр╕╕р╕Ыр╣Вр╕ар╕Др╕Ър╕гр╕┤р╣Вр╕ар╕Д р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕нр╕вр╕╣р╣Ир╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕Фр╕╣р╣Бр╕ер╕гр╕▒р╕Бр╕йр╕▓ р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕зр╕▒р╕З
р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Щр╕нр╕Бр╕Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Гр╕Щр╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕Бр╣Ир╕нр╕Щ р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕нр╕вр╕╣р╣Ир╣Гр╕Щ р╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕Фр╕╣р╣Бр╕ер╕гр╕▒р╕Бр╕йр╕▓р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Ир╕▒р╕Фр╕лр╕▓р╕Ьр╕ер╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Вр╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╣Мр╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М
р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣Мр╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Фр╕╣р╣Бр╕ер╕гр╕▒р╕Бр╕йр╕▓р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Ир╕▒р╕Фр╕лр╕▓р╕Ьр╕ер╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Вр╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╣М р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╣Др╕Ыр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕нр╕▒р╕Шр╕вр╕▓р╕ир╕▒р╕в
Public asset and the king’s assets and other utilities are under the Bureau of the Royal Household
Other asset that is not stated previously will be manage with CPB.
р╣Ар╕бр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕бр╕╡р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕Бр╕▓р╕ир╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╣Гр╕Щр╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕Бр╣Ир╕нр╕Щр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕з р╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕Чр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕Ыр╕зр╕З р╣Ар╕Бр╕╡р╣Ир╕вр╕зр╕Бр╕▒р╕Ър╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣М р╕лр╣Йр╕▓р╕бр╕бр╕┤р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕╕р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Ыр╕гр╕бр╕▓р╕ар╕┤р╣Др╕Шр╕вр╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Вр╣Йр╕нр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╣Гр╕Ф р╣Ж р╕нр╕▒р╕Щр╣Бр╕кр╕Фр╕Зр╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕нр╕Щр╕╕р╕бр╕▓р╕Щр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Др╕╣р╣Ир╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Др╕╣р╣Ир╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕б р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕╕р╣Ар╕Юр╕╡р╕вр╕З р╕Кр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Ър╕╕р╕Др╕Др╕ер╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕гр╕▒р╕Ър╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Зр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕Фр╕▒р╕Зр╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зр╕Хр╣Ир╕нр╕Чр╣Йр╕▓р╕вр╕Фр╣Йр╕зр╕вр╕Др╕│р╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕Ир╕▒р╕Фр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щ р╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣М” р╣Ар╕Чр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ
After his majesty’s appointed the director, the prim-minister shall announce in the Royal Thai Government Gazette
After the announcement is complete, it is prohibit to state his majesty name or any message or passage that inferred to majesty. Only the name of the appointees and at the word “manager of his majesty’s asset”
To sum it up, the asset is divided into 3, his majesty personal asset, the public asset and the king’s asset which state in article 4.
The public asset manage by the Bureau of the Royal Household while the King asset is managed by CPB. The CPB directors are appointed by the king and have the minister of finance as the chairman.
Obviously the government has very little say in the CPB and who knows who is running the Bureau of the Royal Household but certainly not the government, or are they? I did a little wiki (sorry but you are well come to find any other alternative.) the Bureau of the Royal Household is oversee by the PM and manage by р╣Ар╕ер╕Вр╕▓р╕Шр╕┤р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕зр╕▒р╕З or secretary of Bureau of the Royal Household which also appoint by the king.
Now it comes to the last point of this whole argument, does the aseet belong to the king personally or the state.
Article 6-7 said
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 6* р╕гр╕▓р╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Гр╕Щ р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 5 р╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕кр╕нр╕Зр╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ р╕Ир╕░р╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Бр╣Зр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╣Ар╕Йр╕Юр╕▓р╕░р╣Гр╕Щр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕ар╕Чр╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Хр╣Йр╕нр╕З р╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Вр╣Йр╕нр╕Ьр╕╣р╕Бр╕Юр╕▒р╕Щ р╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╣Ар╕Фр╕╖р╕нр╕Щ р╕Ър╕│р╣Ар╕лр╕Щр╣Зр╕И р╕Ър╕│р╕Щр╕▓р╕Н р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╕гр╕▓р╕Зр╕зр╕▒р╕е р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╕Др╣Ир╕▓р╣Гр╕Кр╣Йр╕кр╕нр╕в р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Ир╕г р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╕ер╕Зр╕Чр╕╕р╕Щ р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕╕р╕ир╕е р╣Ар╕лр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕╡р╣Йр╣Ар╕Йр╕Юр╕▓р╕░р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕гр╕▒р╕Ър╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Чр╕▓р╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕гр╕бр╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕▓р╕Щр╕╕р╕Нр╕▓р╕Хр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зр╣Ар╕Чр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ
Income from the king asset under article 5 only pays to the legal binding expense account such as salary, pension, bonus, investment, miscellaneous expense, and donation the payment is allow only after his majesty endorsement.
р╕гр╕▓р╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Лр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕лр╕▒р╕Бр╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╣Гр╕Щр╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕Бр╣Ир╕нр╕Щр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕з р╕Ир╕░р╕Ир╕│р╕лр╕Щр╣Ир╕▓р╕в р╣Гр╕Кр╣Йр╕кр╕нр╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Бр╣Зр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕нр╕▒р╕Шр╕вр╕▓р╕ир╕▒р╕в р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╣Гр╕Ф р╣Ж р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕кр╕│р╣Ар╕гр╣Зр╕Ир╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╣Бр╕Чр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣Мр╣Ар╕Йр╕Юр╕▓р╕░р╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Бр╕╡р╣Ир╕вр╕зр╕Бр╕▒р╕Ър╕Бр╕▓р╕г р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕╕р╕ир╕ер╕нр╕▒р╕Щр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕кр╕▓р╕Шр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╕░р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╣Гр╕Щр╕Чр╕▓р╕Зр╕ир╕▓р╕кр╕Щр╕▓р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Юр╕Ур╕╡ р╕Ър╕гр╕гр╕Фр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕вр╕Бр╕┤р╕Ир╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╣Ар╕Чр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ
*[р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 6 р╣Бр╕Бр╣Йр╣Др╕Вр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Ър╕▒р╕Нр╕Нр╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕п (р╕Йр╕Ър╕▒р╕Ър╕Чр╕╡р╣И 3) р╕Ю.р╕и. 2491)
Income after expense from previous clause can then be use my his majesty under any circumstances or by other member of the royal families but only for donation, cultural, or religious ceremony under his majesty credential only
The King Asset can be transferred or sell only for the benefit of the King Asset and only after the endorsement from his majesty or by public benefit which stated by law.
Well article 6 pretty much clear things up, the king can use the asset and not the ministry of finance. (I’m so tired from writing this so feel free the correct me)
19 Sept 2006 was a highly auspicious day in the Chinese astrological calendar. It would be interesting to see the charts for the previous coups although unfortunately I don’t have them.
@Vichai
Please, if you want to say something is arguable, then argue it.
and Zimbabwe?, Thaksin?, oh please, enough red herring. Who cares about Zimbabwe when you’re on a SEA forum? Who cares about your views on Thaksin when we’re obviously talking about Thai monarch? Plus their wealth are not even on the same scale.
Sumet’s spin on the ownership of the CPB, too, is hardly relevant while it is a legal fact that it is the King who has absolute control of it.
If you can deny what is written on the “р╕Юр╕гр╕Ъ”, apart from by blatantly turning a blind eye to it or mess it up with even more irrelevant topics, tell me how.
Phillipines is a “newly industrialised” country? Must be a really loose defination. Its like saying Melaka is a “developed” state.
Was in Manila a few months ago…. armed (with guns) guards in front of almost every shop. Metal detectors at entrances of shopping complexes and always two steps away from an urban slum.
Pride is one thing – false pride will keep you in the backwaters forever.
Is there any correlation to the Fibonacci numbers? Failing that, perhaps someone can apply a numerology exercise and trigger a profitable run on the stockmarket.
I agree with Vichi 100%. How dare all these mis-informed & disrespectful farangs insult our divine King, light & inspiration of the Thai Nation? All these libelous words about his many palaces, seaside & mountain villas, fleets of S Mercedes & BMW’s, bank vaults full of diamonds, rare pearls & gold, private 737 jets, hundreds of rai of land in & around central Bangkok, 35+ billion USD of shares and hi-rise office towers, shipping centers and condo buildings, are just poisonous envy from pathetic farangs who only wish they had such an exalted and perfect leader.
Next, they will be demanding he be taxed, as though he were an ordinary citizen and mortal. They will never know how we Thai feel about our King.
I would add Phya Mano’s self-coup in April 1933 in the “successful” category. Might be more contentious to say that there was another such “self-coup” in April 2010. The Boworadet rebellion in October 1933 should be in the unsuccessful attempts.
Yes, Greg, I’m aware of that sad state of Philippine politics. Makes having a democracy not something to be proud of.
I would like to make a clarification. In terms of domestic politics, I (and many of the youth like me) despise our politicians. We already tried peaceful revolutions twice, but the problem is that in the current generation of leaders, the only choice seems to be between one more evil and one less evil.
In terms of foreign policy, that’s where we have some semblance of trust. No matter how corrupt the Arroyo presidency was, the former administration was able to raise our growth rates into the 5-7% area, weather the effects of the 2008-2009 financial crisis and improve economic infrastructure at a rate not seen since the early years of Ferdinand Marcos. Since President Ramos in the 90s, I think we have made the right moves in terms of economic diplomacy, and diplomacy in general, despite numerous blunders here and there, for example, the joke that is the Estrada presidency (1998-2001).
That is why I think that discontent has not risen to very high levels, even if it would have been very easy to topple government after government. Despite the multitude of problems our country faces (insurgencies, separatists, high income gap between rich and poor, natural disasters, corruption), ordinary people in our country are feeling the benefits of the rise of Asia (although in varying degrees). Hey, we’re not considered a Newly-Industrialized Country for nothing.
It would probably help if I tell you that my views have been heavily influenced by Kishore Mahbubani.
“The King is obviously have unusually large amount of asset and not a single voice can be say about monitoring this asset.” – Tarrin
Again it is arguable whether the CP assets are The King’s personally, or, of the state. And we will have to defer to resolution of this issue . . . and of the issue of transparency with respect to the CP assets . . . after the royal succession, hopefully. Because to demand more while the current deeply revered monarch (King Bhumibhol) still reigns will be political suicide for any Thai politician.
” In particular, the views of Thais (at New Mandala) are usually condemned as ill-informed, uneducated and brainwashed. ” – Stuart
I, with rare exceptions, usually get landslide thumbs down votes for my NM posters. That to me is encouraging . . . because I am the minority view at NM when it comes to Thailand . . . and I resent the strong pro-Thaksin corruption-is-ok let’s-forget-Thaksin’s-anti drugs-extrajudicial-police-killings liberal views that pervade hereat.
You said Why single out the Thai monarch? Zimbabwe already has trillionaires a plenty.
How do you want me to interpret that??
Furthermore, there seems to be something wrong with Thai intellect now a day. The King is obviously have unusually large amount of asset and not a single voice can be say about monitoring this asset. How do we know that this asset is acquired legally or how the money is spent. The next richest individual is the owner of CP with net worth of about 2 billion USD, that’s more than 10 times less than the king.
You will find that disagreeing with the prevailing view on this website will invite fierce riposte. Any opinion in support of the status quo in Thailand will be met with a flood of thumbs down, rather than a judgement on the quality of the comment. In particular, the views of Thais are usually condemned as ill-informed, uneducated and brainwashed. Thais, you see, can’t possibly have the insight into Thailand that we westerners have – unless they support the prevailing view (in which case they are considered unusually enlightened and somewhat charming, much the same way as the Noble Savage was patronised in the Victorian era).
For the record, I believe your view to be wrong. My own opinions, in general, fall broadly in line with the prevailing view on this forum. However, I’m glad the operators of this website allow you a forum to express it. I’m not convinced some of the commentators on this forum would entertain it on theirs.
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Abhisit readying for the people’s judgement?
If it does actually happen, the election will be an excellent opportunity to find out whether the thai electorate is as gullible & contemptible as the Democrat Party clearly thinks they are.
After presiding over the death of more than 90 citizens to avoid a legitimizing election and installing the ‘right’ military & police chiefs, they have seen the writing on the wall (cannot artificially hold down prices much longer), and are now seen to be the ones who want an election – everyone else keep up if you can.
Suddenly there is no obstacle to constitutional amendment, and the peoples input no longer matters.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/24564/pm-adamant-referendum-on-charter-needed
A little help from the military and the judiciary doing the ‘right’ thing over the last few years, and their PAD friends have chimed in just on time to make the Demorats appear to be the only middle ground between those red & yellow shirted crazies.
I wonder how short peoples memories are.
http://blogs.reuters.com/andrew-marshall/2010/08/01/uneducate-people/
Thailand’s royal billions
Tarrin –
wow…an exhausting tracing of what’s what, indeed. Thanks for the effort. I’ll share this train of thought with some moderate, educated Thai friends but expect not much more than an “it’s complicated” -response.
Thailand’s obscurely feudal-friendly constitution is as anachronistic as the USAs’ fear of communism/socialism…but the smokescreen design is so sophisticated that it is impenetrable by logic or the realities of the 21st century.
Counting Thailand’s coups
At the beginning of 1976 and at the beginning of 1980 military pressure forced out prime ministers in “silent coups”. The former resulted in new elections; the latter saw Prem take power for 8 years. Should at least 1980 not be included in this list?
Counting Thailand’s coups
[…] Farrelly, writing for the New Mandala, has counted 11 “successful” and 9 “unsuccessful” coup efforts” in Thailand in the past century. […]
Thailand’s royal billions
I have another (inofficial) translation right here. 😉
I suppose you can read Thai, thus do not need a translation anyway. In which case you can even refer to the government’s site.
http://www.oic.go.th/CABOICFORM05/DRAWER05/GENERAL/DATA0000/00000156.DOC
But still, this is an English forum, so here goes.
http://www.thailawtoday.com/component/content/313.html?task=view
The font color is hard to read but you can just copy and paste it in microsoft word or sth.
to moderator: don’t have to publish this if you think this is redundant. I dont mind.
Thailand’s royal billions
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I think you’ll find that the large volume of ” thumbs down” reaction you get has rather more to do with your habit of making extravagant statements with zero back-up than whether they happen to run counter to others’ views. Your tilt at “strong pro-Thaksin corruption-is-ok let’s-forget-Thaksin’s-anti drugs-extrajudicial-police-killings liberal views that pervade hereat” is just the most recent example of many.
It has certainly been my experience of NM that an against-the-tide point well-made and supported with evidenced reasoning rather than dogmatic sniping is welcomed not scorned. That’s reflected in subsequent comments as well as in which thumb is chosen.
Thailand’s royal billions
Vichai N- 27
Again it is arguable whether the CP assets are The King’s personally, or, of the state. And we will have to defer to resolution of this issue
Its is troubling indeed that you and I would have to discuss about the ownership of the CPB. We shouldn’t have to discuss about CPB at all if the whole affair is indeed “transparent”. Don’t you think its a bit wired that we cannot even agree on who is actually own the CPB?
Now I think we should clear things up, I have looked up the “р╕Юр╕гр╕Ъ р╕Ир╕▒р╕Фр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Ър╕╡р╕вр╕Ър╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М 2491тА│. like Paul’s suggested.
and I will referred to this link
http://www.baanjomyut.com/library/law/02/096.html
Note that I’m not a law practitioner here so my translation and interpretation is of my own understanding so everyone is welcome to correct me.
The р╕Юр╕гр╕Ъ has split the asset in to following categories
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 4* р╣Гр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Ър╕▒р╕Нр╕Нр╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕Щр╕╡р╣Й
“р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣М” р╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Вр╕нр╕З р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕нр╕вр╕╣р╣Ир╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зр╕Бр╣Ир╕нр╕Щр╣Ар╕кр╕Фр╣Зр╕Ир╕Вр╕╢р╣Йр╕Щр╕Др╕гр╕нр╕Зр╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕кр╕бр╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤ р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕гр╕▒р╕Рр╕Чр╕╣р╕ер╣Ар╕Бр╕ер╣Йр╕▓ р╕п р╕Цр╕зр╕▓р╕в р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕бр╕▓р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╣Гр╕Щр╕Чр╕▓р╕Зр╣Гр╕Фр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╣Ар╕зр╕ер╕▓р╣Гр╕Фр╕Щр╕нр╕Бр╕Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Чр╕гр╕З р╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕бр╕▓р╣Гр╕Щр╕Рр╕▓р╕Щр╕░р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М р╕Чр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕Щр╕╡р╣Й р╕гр╕зр╕бр╕Чр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕Фр╕нр╕Бр╕Ьр╕ер╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Бр╕┤р╕Фр╕Ир╕▓р╕Б р╕Ър╕гр╕гр╕Фр╕▓р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╣Ар╕Кр╣Ир╕Щр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щр╕Фр╣Йр╕зр╕в
Under article 4
His majesty’s personal asset, or assets that are belong to him before he took the throne either from state donation or any other mean during his reign including any interest and dividend.
“р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕кр╕▓р╕Шр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╕кр╕бр╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ьр╣Ир╕Щр╕Фр╕┤р╕Щ” р╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щ р╣Гр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Лр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╣Гр╕Кр╣Йр╣Ар╕Юр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Вр╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╣Мр╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ьр╣Ир╕Щр╕Фр╕┤р╕Щр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╣Ар╕Йр╕Юр╕▓р╕░ р╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Хр╣Йр╕Щр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕зр╕▒р╕З
Public asset (not sure about translation here): asset under his majesty that is solely used for the benefit of public such as the Palace
“р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М” р╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╣Гр╕Щ р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Щр╕нр╕Бр╕Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣Мр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕кр╕▓р╕Шр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╕кр╕бр╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤ р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ьр╣Ир╕Щр╕Фр╕┤р╕Щр╕Фр╕▒р╕Зр╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕з
The King’s asset means asset other than his majesty’s personal asset and the public asset.
From what I see here is just the categorization of the asset, doesn’t explicitly say who is managing what then article 4 said
*[р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 4 р╣Бр╕Бр╣Йр╣Др╕Вр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Ър╕▒р╕Нр╕Нр╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕п (р╕Йр╕Ър╕▒р╕Ър╕Чр╕╡р╣И 3) р╕Ю.р╕и. 2491)
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 4 р╕Чр╕зр╕┤* р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Вр╕╢р╣Йр╕Щр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕лр╕Щр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╣Ар╕гр╕╡р╕вр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М” р╕бр╕╡р╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Ыр╕Пр╕┤р╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╣Гр╕Щ р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 5 р╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕кр╕нр╕З
Article 4: to set up the Crown Property Bureau (CPB) which will act in accordance with article 5 clause 2
р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕бр╕╡р╕Рр╕▓р╕Щр╕░р╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Щр╕┤р╕Хр╕┤р╕Ър╕╕р╕Др╕Др╕е
*[р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 4 р╕Чр╕зр╕┤ р╣Ар╕Юр╕┤р╣Ир╕бр╣Ар╕Хр╕┤р╕бр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Ър╕▒р╕Нр╕Нр╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕п (р╕Йр╕Ър╕▒р╕Ър╕Чр╕╡р╣И 3) р╕Ю.р╕и. 2491)
CPB is a private entity.
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 4 р╕Хр╕гр╕╡* р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕бр╕╡р╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕лр╕Щр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╣Ар╕гр╕╡р╕вр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М” р╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕Бр╕нр╕Ър╕Фр╣Йр╕зр╕вр╕гр╕▒р╕Рр╕бр╕Щр╕Хр╕гр╕╡р╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕▓р╕г р╕Бр╕гр╕░р╕Чр╕гр╕зр╕Зр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Др╕ер╕▒р╕Зр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕Шр╕▓р╕Щр╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Хр╕│р╣Бр╕лр╕Щр╣Ир╕З р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕нр╕╖р╣Ир╕Щр╕нр╕╡р╕Б р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Щр╣Йр╕нр╕вр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ 4 р╕Др╕Щ р╕Лр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Ир╕░р╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Зр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕З р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╣Гр╕Щр╕Ир╕│р╕Щр╕зр╕Щр╕Щр╕╡р╣Й р╕Ир╕░р╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Зр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕зр╕вр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М 1 р╕Др╕Щ
The Board of Director or the Director of CPB composed of The Minister of Finance as the chairman and other directors no less that 4 that are appoint by the King, one of the director shall act as president of the CPB
р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕бр╕╡р╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕▓р╕Ир╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Фр╕╣р╣Бр╕е р╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Чр╕▒р╣Ир╕зр╣Др╕Ыр╕Лр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╕Бр╕┤р╕Ир╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М
The function of the Director of CPB is to generally take care of CPB operation.
р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕зр╕вр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М р╕бр╕╡р╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕▓р╕Ир╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣И р╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕бр╕нр╕Ър╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕в р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕бр╕╡р╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕▓р╕Ир╕ер╕Зр╕Кр╕╖р╣Ир╕н р╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕кр╕│р╕Др╕▒р╕Нр╕Ьр╕╣р╕Бр╕Юр╕▒р╕Щр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М
The president of CPB is report directly to the board of CPB and has legal binding and power of attorney tied to the CPB.
Now, from reading article 4 alone I dont think the ministry of finance has much say in the CPB affair other than sitting as the chairman since the directors are all appointed by the king. However, as it is might not be clear enough to say the King own the “public asset” stated in in the first half of article 4.
However, in article 5
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 5* р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕кр╕▓р╕Шр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╕кр╕бр╕Ър╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╣Бр╕Ьр╣Ир╕Щр╕Фр╕┤р╕Щр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щ р╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Ър╕гр╕гр╕Фр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╣Ар╕Др╕гр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Зр╕нр╕╕р╕Ыр╣Вр╕ар╕Др╕Ър╕гр╕┤р╣Вр╕ар╕Д р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕нр╕вр╕╣р╣Ир╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕Фр╕╣р╣Бр╕ер╕гр╕▒р╕Бр╕йр╕▓ р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕зр╕▒р╕З
р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Щр╕нр╕Бр╕Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Гр╕Щр╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕Бр╣Ир╕нр╕Щ р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕нр╕вр╕╣р╣Ир╣Гр╕Щ р╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕Фр╕╣р╣Бр╕ер╕гр╕▒р╕Бр╕йр╕▓р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Ир╕▒р╕Фр╕лр╕▓р╕Ьр╕ер╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Вр╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╣Мр╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕кр╕│р╕Щр╕▒р╕Бр╕Зр╕▓р╕Щр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М
р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣Мр╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Фр╕╣р╣Бр╕ер╕гр╕▒р╕Бр╕йр╕▓р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Ир╕▒р╕Фр╕лр╕▓р╕Ьр╕ер╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Вр╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╣М р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╣Др╕Ыр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕нр╕▒р╕Шр╕вр╕▓р╕ир╕▒р╕в
Public asset and the king’s assets and other utilities are under the Bureau of the Royal Household
Other asset that is not stated previously will be manage with CPB.
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 5 р╕Чр╕зр╕┤* р╣Ар╕бр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Бр╕гр╕╕р╕Ур╕▓р╣Вр╕Ыр╕гр╕Фр╣Ар╕Бр╕ер╣Йр╕▓ р╕п р╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕нр╕▒р╕Шр╕вр╕▓р╕ир╕▒р╕в р╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Зр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Ър╕╕р╕Др╕Др╕ер╣Гр╕Фр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕Фр╕╣р╣Бр╕ер╕гр╕▒р╕Бр╕йр╕▓р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Ир╕▒р╕Фр╕лр╕▓р╕Ьр╕ер╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Вр╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╣Мр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щ р╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣М р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕Щр╕▓р╕вр╕Бр╕гр╕▒р╕Рр╕бр╕Щр╕Хр╕гр╕╡р╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕Бр╕▓р╕ир╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Зр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щр╣Гр╕Щр╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕┤р╕Ир╕Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕╕р╣Ар╕Ър╕Бр╕йр╕▓
р╣Ар╕бр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕бр╕╡р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕Бр╕▓р╕ир╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╣Гр╕Щр╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕Бр╣Ир╕нр╕Щр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕з р╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕Чр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕Ыр╕зр╕З р╣Ар╕Бр╕╡р╣Ир╕вр╕зр╕Бр╕▒р╕Ър╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣М р╕лр╣Йр╕▓р╕бр╕бр╕┤р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕╕р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Ыр╕гр╕бр╕▓р╕ар╕┤р╣Др╕Шр╕вр╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Вр╣Йр╕нр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╣Гр╕Ф р╣Ж р╕нр╕▒р╕Щр╣Бр╕кр╕Фр╕Зр╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕нр╕Щр╕╕р╕бр╕▓р╕Щр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Др╕╣р╣Ир╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Др╕╣р╣Ир╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕б р╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕╕р╣Ар╕Юр╕╡р╕вр╕З р╕Кр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Ър╕╕р╕Др╕Др╕ер╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕гр╕▒р╕Ър╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕Зр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕Фр╕▒р╕Зр╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зр╕Хр╣Ир╕нр╕Чр╣Йр╕▓р╕вр╕Фр╣Йр╕зр╕вр╕Др╕│р╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕Ир╕▒р╕Фр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щ р╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣М” р╣Ар╕Чр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ
After his majesty’s appointed the director, the prim-minister shall announce in the Royal Thai Government Gazette
After the announcement is complete, it is prohibit to state his majesty name or any message or passage that inferred to majesty. Only the name of the appointees and at the word “manager of his majesty’s asset”
To sum it up, the asset is divided into 3, his majesty personal asset, the public asset and the king’s asset which state in article 4.
The public asset manage by the Bureau of the Royal Household while the King asset is managed by CPB. The CPB directors are appointed by the king and have the minister of finance as the chairman.
Obviously the government has very little say in the CPB and who knows who is running the Bureau of the Royal Household but certainly not the government, or are they? I did a little wiki (sorry but you are well come to find any other alternative.) the Bureau of the Royal Household is oversee by the PM and manage by р╣Ар╕ер╕Вр╕▓р╕Шр╕┤р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕зр╕▒р╕З or secretary of Bureau of the Royal Household which also appoint by the king.
Now it comes to the last point of this whole argument, does the aseet belong to the king personally or the state.
Article 6-7 said
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 6* р╕гр╕▓р╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Ир╕▓р╕Бр╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Гр╕Щ р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 5 р╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕кр╕нр╕Зр╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ р╕Ир╕░р╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Бр╣Зр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╣Ар╕Йр╕Юр╕▓р╕░р╣Гр╕Щр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕ар╕Чр╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Хр╣Йр╕нр╕З р╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Вр╣Йр╕нр╕Ьр╕╣р╕Бр╕Юр╕▒р╕Щ р╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╣Ар╕Фр╕╖р╕нр╕Щ р╕Ър╕│р╣Ар╕лр╕Щр╣Зр╕И р╕Ър╕│р╕Щр╕▓р╕Н р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╕гр╕▓р╕Зр╕зр╕▒р╕е р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╕Др╣Ир╕▓р╣Гр╕Кр╣Йр╕кр╕нр╕в р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Ир╕г р╣Ар╕Зр╕┤р╕Щр╕ер╕Зр╕Чр╕╕р╕Щ р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕╕р╕ир╕е р╣Ар╕лр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕╡р╣Йр╣Ар╕Йр╕Юр╕▓р╕░р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕гр╕▒р╕Ър╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Чр╕▓р╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕гр╕бр╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕▓р╕Щр╕╕р╕Нр╕▓р╕Хр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зр╣Ар╕Чр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ
Income from the king asset under article 5 only pays to the legal binding expense account such as salary, pension, bonus, investment, miscellaneous expense, and donation the payment is allow only after his majesty endorsement.
р╕гр╕▓р╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Лр╕╢р╣Ир╕Зр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕лр╕▒р╕Бр╕гр╕▓р╕вр╕Ир╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╣Гр╕Щр╕зр╕гр╕гр╕Др╕Бр╣Ир╕нр╕Щр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕з р╕Ир╕░р╕Ир╕│р╕лр╕Щр╣Ир╕▓р╕в р╣Гр╕Кр╣Йр╕кр╕нр╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Бр╣Зр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╕Хр╕▓р╕бр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕нр╕▒р╕Шр╕вр╕▓р╕ир╕▒р╕в р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╣Гр╕Ф р╣Ж р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Др╕Ур╕░р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕кр╕│р╣Ар╕гр╣Зр╕Ир╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╣Бр╕Чр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣Мр╣Ар╕Йр╕Юр╕▓р╕░р╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Бр╕╡р╣Ир╕вр╕зр╕Бр╕▒р╕Ър╕Бр╕▓р╕г р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕╕р╕ир╕ер╕нр╕▒р╕Щр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕кр╕▓р╕Шр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╕░р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╣Гр╕Щр╕Чр╕▓р╕Зр╕ир╕▓р╕кр╕Щр╕▓р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Юр╕Ур╕╡ р╕Ър╕гр╕гр╕Фр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕вр╕Бр╕┤р╕Ир╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣Мр╣Ар╕Чр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ
*[р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 6 р╣Бр╕Бр╣Йр╣Др╕Вр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Ър╕▒р╕Нр╕Нр╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╕п (р╕Йр╕Ър╕▒р╕Ър╕Чр╕╡р╣И 3) р╕Ю.р╕и. 2491)
Income after expense from previous clause can then be use my his majesty under any circumstances or by other member of the royal families but only for donation, cultural, or religious ceremony under his majesty credential only
р╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 7* р╕ар╕▓р╕вр╣Гр╕Хр╣Йр╕Ър╕▒р╕Зр╕Др╕▒р╕Ър╣Бр╕лр╣Ир╕Зр╕бр╕▓р╕Хр╕гр╕▓ 6 р╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М р╕Ир╕░р╣Вр╕нр╕Щр╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Ир╕│р╕лр╕Щр╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Бр╣Зр╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╣Ар╕Юр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Вр╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╣Мр╣Бр╕Бр╣Ир╕Чр╕гр╕▒р╕Юр╕вр╣Мр╕кр╕┤р╕Щр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М р╣Бр╕ер╕░ р╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕гр╕▒р╕Ър╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Чр╕▓р╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕гр╕бр╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕▓р╕Щр╕╕р╕Нр╕▓р╕Хр╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╣Ар╕Юр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕кр╕▓р╕Шр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Вр╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╣Мр╕нр╕▒р╕Щр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕бр╕╡ р╕Ър╕Чр╕Бр╕Ор╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╣Гр╕лр╣Йр╣Вр╕нр╕Щр╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╕Ир╕│р╕лр╕Щр╣Ир╕▓р╕вр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╣Ар╕Чр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щ
The King Asset can be transferred or sell only for the benefit of the King Asset and only after the endorsement from his majesty or by public benefit which stated by law.
Well article 6 pretty much clear things up, the king can use the asset and not the ministry of finance. (I’m so tired from writing this so feel free the correct me)
Counting Thailand’s coups
19 Sept 2006 was a highly auspicious day in the Chinese astrological calendar. It would be interesting to see the charts for the previous coups although unfortunately I don’t have them.
Thailand’s royal billions
@Vichai
Please, if you want to say something is arguable, then argue it.
and Zimbabwe?, Thaksin?, oh please, enough red herring. Who cares about Zimbabwe when you’re on a SEA forum? Who cares about your views on Thaksin when we’re obviously talking about Thai monarch? Plus their wealth are not even on the same scale.
Sumet’s spin on the ownership of the CPB, too, is hardly relevant while it is a legal fact that it is the King who has absolute control of it.
If you can deny what is written on the “р╕Юр╕гр╕Ъ”, apart from by blatantly turning a blind eye to it or mess it up with even more irrelevant topics, tell me how.
ASEAN Divides
Phillipines is a “newly industrialised” country? Must be a really loose defination. Its like saying Melaka is a “developed” state.
Was in Manila a few months ago…. armed (with guns) guards in front of almost every shop. Metal detectors at entrances of shopping complexes and always two steps away from an urban slum.
Pride is one thing – false pride will keep you in the backwaters forever.
Where to now for the UDD?
Interesting article in the Bangkok Post today
http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/225380/can-internet-be-free-again
Counting Thailand’s coups
Is there any correlation to the Fibonacci numbers? Failing that, perhaps someone can apply a numerology exercise and trigger a profitable run on the stockmarket.
Thailand’s royal billions
I agree with Vichi 100%. How dare all these mis-informed & disrespectful farangs insult our divine King, light & inspiration of the Thai Nation? All these libelous words about his many palaces, seaside & mountain villas, fleets of S Mercedes & BMW’s, bank vaults full of diamonds, rare pearls & gold, private 737 jets, hundreds of rai of land in & around central Bangkok, 35+ billion USD of shares and hi-rise office towers, shipping centers and condo buildings, are just poisonous envy from pathetic farangs who only wish they had such an exalted and perfect leader.
Next, they will be demanding he be taxed, as though he were an ordinary citizen and mortal. They will never know how we Thai feel about our King.
Counting Thailand’s coups
One more: the “Naisip Rebellion” of August 5, 1935. Details here:
http://th.wikipedia.org/wiki/р╕Бр╕Ър╕Пр╕Щр╕▓р╕вр╕кр╕┤р╕Ъ
Counting Thailand’s coups
I would add Phya Mano’s self-coup in April 1933 in the “successful” category. Might be more contentious to say that there was another such “self-coup” in April 2010. The Boworadet rebellion in October 1933 should be in the unsuccessful attempts.
ASEAN Divides
Yes, Greg, I’m aware of that sad state of Philippine politics. Makes having a democracy not something to be proud of.
I would like to make a clarification. In terms of domestic politics, I (and many of the youth like me) despise our politicians. We already tried peaceful revolutions twice, but the problem is that in the current generation of leaders, the only choice seems to be between one more evil and one less evil.
In terms of foreign policy, that’s where we have some semblance of trust. No matter how corrupt the Arroyo presidency was, the former administration was able to raise our growth rates into the 5-7% area, weather the effects of the 2008-2009 financial crisis and improve economic infrastructure at a rate not seen since the early years of Ferdinand Marcos. Since President Ramos in the 90s, I think we have made the right moves in terms of economic diplomacy, and diplomacy in general, despite numerous blunders here and there, for example, the joke that is the Estrada presidency (1998-2001).
That is why I think that discontent has not risen to very high levels, even if it would have been very easy to topple government after government. Despite the multitude of problems our country faces (insurgencies, separatists, high income gap between rich and poor, natural disasters, corruption), ordinary people in our country are feeling the benefits of the rise of Asia (although in varying degrees). Hey, we’re not considered a Newly-Industrialized Country for nothing.
It would probably help if I tell you that my views have been heavily influenced by Kishore Mahbubani.
Thailand’s royal billions
“The King is obviously have unusually large amount of asset and not a single voice can be say about monitoring this asset.” – Tarrin
Again it is arguable whether the CP assets are The King’s personally, or, of the state. And we will have to defer to resolution of this issue . . . and of the issue of transparency with respect to the CP assets . . . after the royal succession, hopefully. Because to demand more while the current deeply revered monarch (King Bhumibhol) still reigns will be political suicide for any Thai politician.
Thailand’s royal billions
” In particular, the views of Thais (at New Mandala) are usually condemned as ill-informed, uneducated and brainwashed. ” – Stuart
I, with rare exceptions, usually get landslide thumbs down votes for my NM posters. That to me is encouraging . . . because I am the minority view at NM when it comes to Thailand . . . and I resent the strong pro-Thaksin corruption-is-ok let’s-forget-Thaksin’s-anti drugs-extrajudicial-police-killings liberal views that pervade hereat.
Thailand’s royal billions
Vichai N- 23
You said Why single out the Thai monarch? Zimbabwe already has trillionaires a plenty.
How do you want me to interpret that??
Furthermore, there seems to be something wrong with Thai intellect now a day. The King is obviously have unusually large amount of asset and not a single voice can be say about monitoring this asset. How do we know that this asset is acquired legally or how the money is spent. The next richest individual is the owner of CP with net worth of about 2 billion USD, that’s more than 10 times less than the king.
Thailand’s royal billions
Tossaporn Sirak
You will find that disagreeing with the prevailing view on this website will invite fierce riposte. Any opinion in support of the status quo in Thailand will be met with a flood of thumbs down, rather than a judgement on the quality of the comment. In particular, the views of Thais are usually condemned as ill-informed, uneducated and brainwashed. Thais, you see, can’t possibly have the insight into Thailand that we westerners have – unless they support the prevailing view (in which case they are considered unusually enlightened and somewhat charming, much the same way as the Noble Savage was patronised in the Victorian era).
For the record, I believe your view to be wrong. My own opinions, in general, fall broadly in line with the prevailing view on this forum. However, I’m glad the operators of this website allow you a forum to express it. I’m not convinced some of the commentators on this forum would entertain it on theirs.