@Nick,
Thanks for a thought provoking piece of photo-journalism.
The fact that you have had comments from 29 seperate responders in only 4 days, speaks for itself.
Keep up the wholesome reporting.
Ahhh!!, maybe that is the problem…provoking thought!, independent of the ‘State’ propaganda.
@jo jo,
Just what is it precisely, that is the “very poor reportage”?.
Please explain.
The Mekong river is a strategic river of mainland Southeast Asia, I would not want to see al-Qaeda exploring and using for its campsite training area. I think that’s the issue.
Thanks LSS. It is interesting that each time the political temperature increases in Thailand there is a spate of posts to NM that appear to be posted by oddly named nationalists-fascists. They seldom come back. I always wonder if they are some of the army people assigned to put out comments that are supportive of the govt. But why would the army choose illiterate bozos? They are similarly hopeless in Thai on the Thai-language blogs….
What jojo means to say is that it’s not journalism unless there are gruesome photos of murder/rape victims or photos of attractive spokesmodels wearing moon-boots.
Susie & Sam certainly figured that PAD is full of fascists. But one truly wonders what they were doing during the Thaksin years. Did I hear much complaint when Thaksin let his uniformed thugs loose (with Sondhi Lim’s friendship & support) to murder both innocent and guilty people alike? (A recently vocal relative is rumored to have ordered the death of an opponent quite recently. There’s no smoke without fire. In a free system he would be open to either prosecution or to defend himself. But no swinging dick here ever takes any real responsibility for his own irresponsibility.)
There are NO relatively benign politicians, policemen or military men in Thailand. They’re pretty much all murdering fascists when push comes to shove. Added to which democracy has never been anything other than a farce here anyway. Thaksin most certainly didn’t preside over one. So why do otherwise clued-in people persist in cutting a corrupt & dangerous policeman a bit of slack as he continually breaks the law with complete impunity? Millions of people support the man only because they have been brainwashed with the strongman theory. It might be popularism, but it most certainly isn’t freedom. If you ask them what they really know about him, they either know very little or spend hours on end trying to defend him on the dubious grounds that only hardman strength can run what is undoubtedly a very weak country in political and law & order terms. It’s not even as if that so-called strength has ever really acheived anything other than a very fat, prosperous & lazy lifestyle for a very small minority.
Come on! Say it like it is. The scenery is good. The food is good and plentiful. The culture is interesting And there are other positives. But in political terms, Thailand really isn’t that much better than basketcase Burma.
of course, the US is in process of asking themselves similar questions,
in fact they can be seen as complicit in the military behaviour in the South, by example and indirectly through training at their School of the Americas or whatever its called now
but this should not excuse them for ignoring or condoning these faults in others
in fact it should be an integral part of their own self-improvement
jojo #30: do you have any specific complaints, or is this just another of those ‘you wouldn’t know because you’re not Thai’ things, where the critic doesn’t have to play by the rules by giving reasons?
One thing I should have also mentioned re. the domestic violence trial I described in #10 is that it emerged that, in the opinion of the Thais involved, wife-beating is considered quite normal in Thailand, in fact most Thai husbands beat their wives.
Susie, I think the Cambodian Peoples’ Party would be very pleased with your perspective. Not so sure the monsoonal flooding will be so unpredictable with the Xiaowan dam completed. Not sure what you’re trying to get at by quoting Dicey either. How do our perspectives differ?
From my perspective, I see Laos and Cambodia are simply trying to utilize their natural resources to develop their countries. By using technology to tame the perennial unpredictable very heavy rainfall monsoon Mekong for a predictable irrigation for agriculture development and for producing electricity for industrial growth, the benefit is far exceeding from any rational standpoints. So I wonder why our perspectives differ. Would it be because “Men come easily to believe that arrangements agreeable to themselves are beneficial to others,” as Dicey observed.
Srithanonchai might want to look at the Bangkok Post 65th anniversary spread today in the print edition. The family name Vejjajiva comes up as a chief operating officer…. Maybe I am being too cynical.
A taxi driver I rode with last night was adamant that there was owner pressure on drivers to show up, threatening registration problems.
Questions left unspoken in Thailand
Why do people keep asking questions that are so embarrassing?
Fools and their money
A wat that is called a temple is on the road to decay. If it is called a monastery, then it is safe.
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
@ST,
Thanks for link to Thai translation.
@Nick,
Thanks for a thought provoking piece of photo-journalism.
The fact that you have had comments from 29 seperate responders in only 4 days, speaks for itself.
Keep up the wholesome reporting.
Ahhh!!, maybe that is the problem…provoking thought!, independent of the ‘State’ propaganda.
@jo jo,
Just what is it precisely, that is the “very poor reportage”?.
Please explain.
A Mekong odyssey
The Mekong river is a strategic river of mainland Southeast Asia, I would not want to see al-Qaeda exploring and using for its campsite training area. I think that’s the issue.
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
Thanks LSS. It is interesting that each time the political temperature increases in Thailand there is a spate of posts to NM that appear to be posted by oddly named nationalists-fascists. They seldom come back. I always wonder if they are some of the army people assigned to put out comments that are supportive of the govt. But why would the army choose illiterate bozos? They are similarly hopeless in Thai on the Thai-language blogs….
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
re: michael and Ralph Kramden
What jojo means to say is that it’s not journalism unless there are gruesome photos of murder/rape victims or photos of attractive spokesmodels wearing moon-boots.
Misplaced solidarity
Susie & Sam certainly figured that PAD is full of fascists. But one truly wonders what they were doing during the Thaksin years. Did I hear much complaint when Thaksin let his uniformed thugs loose (with Sondhi Lim’s friendship & support) to murder both innocent and guilty people alike? (A recently vocal relative is rumored to have ordered the death of an opponent quite recently. There’s no smoke without fire. In a free system he would be open to either prosecution or to defend himself. But no swinging dick here ever takes any real responsibility for his own irresponsibility.)
There are NO relatively benign politicians, policemen or military men in Thailand. They’re pretty much all murdering fascists when push comes to shove. Added to which democracy has never been anything other than a farce here anyway. Thaksin most certainly didn’t preside over one. So why do otherwise clued-in people persist in cutting a corrupt & dangerous policeman a bit of slack as he continually breaks the law with complete impunity? Millions of people support the man only because they have been brainwashed with the strongman theory. It might be popularism, but it most certainly isn’t freedom. If you ask them what they really know about him, they either know very little or spend hours on end trying to defend him on the dubious grounds that only hardman strength can run what is undoubtedly a very weak country in political and law & order terms. It’s not even as if that so-called strength has ever really acheived anything other than a very fat, prosperous & lazy lifestyle for a very small minority.
Come on! Say it like it is. The scenery is good. The food is good and plentiful. The culture is interesting And there are other positives. But in political terms, Thailand really isn’t that much better than basketcase Burma.
Questions left unspoken in Thailand
thank you, good questions that should be asked…
of course, the US is in process of asking themselves similar questions,
in fact they can be seen as complicit in the military behaviour in the South, by example and indirectly through training at their School of the Americas or whatever its called now
but this should not excuse them for ignoring or condoning these faults in others
in fact it should be an integral part of their own self-improvement
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
Nick, thanks for the report. I am following your work from afar.
There was a story on the net, that you are preparing to publish a book on the yellow/red shirts uprisings. Did you find a publisher yet?
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
Hey jojo, give an example of so-called poor reportage. Bet you can’t find one.
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
jojo #30: do you have any specific complaints, or is this just another of those ‘you wouldn’t know because you’re not Thai’ things, where the critic doesn’t have to play by the rules by giving reasons?
ASEAN and Human Rights – Can they mix?
One thing I should have also mentioned re. the domestic violence trial I described in #10 is that it emerged that, in the opinion of the Thais involved, wife-beating is considered quite normal in Thailand, in fact most Thai husbands beat their wives.
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
Very poor reportage .
From Farang guy who’s want to make him self important in Thailand .
A Mekong odyssey
Susie, I think the Cambodian Peoples’ Party would be very pleased with your perspective. Not so sure the monsoonal flooding will be so unpredictable with the Xiaowan dam completed. Not sure what you’re trying to get at by quoting Dicey either. How do our perspectives differ?
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
Ooh!!! Somebody just got caught!!!!
When will this disgusting drama end?
Poor you, Thailand
PS. Great piece of news. Keep up!
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
“Ralph Kramden”:
Rumors are that there was also quite a bit of pressure applied to the owners and dispatch centers…
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
Prachathai has a Thai version!
http://www.prachatai.com/journal/2009/07/25275
A Mekong odyssey
From my perspective, I see Laos and Cambodia are simply trying to utilize their natural resources to develop their countries. By using technology to tame the perennial unpredictable very heavy rainfall monsoon Mekong for a predictable irrigation for agriculture development and for producing electricity for industrial growth, the benefit is far exceeding from any rational standpoints. So I wonder why our perspectives differ. Would it be because “Men come easily to believe that arrangements agreeable to themselves are beneficial to others,” as Dicey observed.
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
very good report, thank you .
Bhum Jai Thai and the business of protests slightly gone wrong
Srithanonchai might want to look at the Bangkok Post 65th anniversary spread today in the print edition. The family name Vejjajiva comes up as a chief operating officer…. Maybe I am being too cynical.
A taxi driver I rode with last night was adamant that there was owner pressure on drivers to show up, threatening registration problems.