” ‘macro’ comes from Greek (”makros”), not Latin.”
Alex is right but not only does ‘macro’ come from Greek but so do ‘basilo’ (╬Т╬▒╧Г╬╣╬╗╬╡╧Н╧В) and ‘chelys’ (╧З╬н╬╗╧Е╧В) to which Andrew also incorrectly ascribed Latin derivations – 3 out of 4 wrong!
The reptile namers presumably have stronger classical backgrounds than Andrew and did, at least, avoid the pitfall of mixing Latin with Greek.
jonfernquest is fond of making accusations with no evidence. The war on drugs had considerable coverage here and at a range of other sites. I think this is downright dishonest to ignore the academic study of and blog commentary on these and related issues.
The unsolved murders of 10’s of farmers in the 1970s has recently been taken up in Critical Asian Studies etc. etc. South in Askew and McCargo. Academic support to Crisis Group and HRW when they examine these issues and so on.
What jonfernquest seems more to imply by his negative statements is to deny non-Thai journalists the fundamental right to free expression. At the same time, he is ignoring that the FCCT has Thai members including on the executive committee.
I disagree with Phil Robertson. The LM law does not need reform. It needs to be abolished.
At the risk of driving the tireless JonFernquest to apoplexy, I’d like to draw his (and others’) attention to a well-written, bitingly funny and wickedly accurate take on the subject to be found at Prachatai English: http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/1287
A faint hope but, with more articles like this, the current form of LM laws just might be on the way to being mocked into well-deserved extinction. Plainly, anyone expecting Abhisit to actually DO anything to live up to his words to the fellows at Oxford is in for a very long wait………..
Abhisit could simplify the entire thing by throwing Akbar Khan out of the country.
This single individual, based purely on personal resentment, is bringing low not only the reputation of Thailand but also making sure that every single commentator on the planet will now associate the Thai King with the oppression of freedom of speech using a law that the same Thai King has implied he is not happy with.
Akbar Khan is serving his own weird interests – purely and simply – at the expense of journalists, Thais and the reputation of a mostly benevolent king. He must be removed from the kingdom forthwith.
I know of specific instances of medical services available to poor people before Thaksin too. Open heart surgery for a small girl whose mother was a motor cycle taxi driver abandoned by her husband, waiting list at Chiang Mai University hospital.
Then there are the myriad number of things that aren’t free at all. Perhaps 10,000 – 20,000 baht for surgery is cheap, but it isn’t free, and it is little different from the situation before Thaksin.
Then there was the colleague whose wife died of cancer in Roi Et after exhausting probably 100,000 baht in medical expenses and they were informed of the diagnosis after she died. No chemotherapy for her.
Then there is my personal experience (condition from sports a little like a hernia but optional surgery). Present your card at the designated hospital only to have the doctor tell you very indirectly (no doubt within the bounds of the law) don’t expect to get anything with that, come back with your insurance policy card.
I would venture to say the major difference is that some doctors are paid to sit for several hours at the local provincial hospital to take care of universal health care patients (paid per patient) and dispense free medicine.
What is the main point here?
Some investigative journalist should get the low down on what you really get with your “free” healthcare card.
In an Economist article (04.07), which was responsible for yet another banning of their print edition, there is, in a reasonable coverage of the state-of-play re. LM, this interesting paragraph:
“The authorities are also going after webmasters for failing to delete offensive posts promptly enough. One, Chiranuch Premchaiporn, who runs Prachatai.com, a news website, was charged in April because her site carried a comment by one user which allegedly excoriated Queen Sirikit. Ms Chiranuch insists that she deleted the post when asked to by MICT. But Aree Jiworarak, an official at the ministry, says Ms Chiranuch should have spotted the post herself and is “responsible for what happens”. To her distress, Ms Chiranuch was forced to disclose private data that led police to the user, a Thai woman with the online name “Bento”, who was arrested and charged. Ms Chiranuch faces multiple counts that could, potentially, send her away for 50 years.”
See it at http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13962550
So now we’re not allowed to defend freedom of speech because of Thaksin’s war on drugs? Seems a bit of a bizarre and odd tangent to take.
You also might find that the same journalists in the firing line now are the same ones in the firing line when Thaksin was in power. They are also the ones who’ve been working hard to defend the rights of Thai journalists as well.
Your memory is obviously selective and short. Or you were too busy being sanctimonious to notice I guess.
When hard working truth seeking Thai journalists are shot in the head by vote-buying local godfathers р╣Ар╕Ир╣Йр╕▓р╕Юр╣Ир╕н , not newsworthy for New Mandala.
But when the freedom of speech rights of western journalists and academics are threated with the FCCT case…..different story…
Likewise, Thaksin’s bloody hands (~3,000 extrajudicial executions during “Drug War” , Tak Bai, Krue Se Mosque) are washed conviently clean in the short spans of the memories of academics or blamed entirely on PM Abhisit when official inquiries can’t get the will power to implicate relevant р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕бр╕╡р╕нр╕┤р╕Чр╕Шр╕┤р╕Юр╕е
When will you guys pull your head out of the “realm of images” and enter the “realm of (life or death) reality” ?
Brainface… why oh why did you post about his youtube website? I had a look and now I am so depressed! Anyway, that guy is seriously sick: has anyone read his comment about Thaksin being the reincarnation of Lucifer and Obama being either the reincarnation of Jesus Christ or the Antichrist? There’s no hint of irony or sarcasm in there. I shudder to think such a person is taken seriously, and apparently many Thais like his professed “love for the country”, and his ways of showing it.
In total agreement with Susie – and the very interesting thing is that a British (wannabe) journalist is behind most of this. Someone called Akbar Khan – a British Asian who speaks Thai and has lived in Thailand for many years. He also has the youtube channel “cyberak”.
His level of resentment towards the FCCT is very strange and appears almost pathological. He was also behind Jonathan Head’s and Jakrapob Penkair’s LM charges.
This person now needs to be completely exposed – you can find him on both Facebook and Linked In. His Linked In page lists his work but the company websites of whom he claims to work for are dead. He seems to be a bit of a fantasist. Some of his youtube stuff is very odd indeed – particularly the comments he makes on each vid.
Yet again, Thailand demonstrates its seemingly unquenchable desire, having blown its feet off, to continue blasting away its own legs.
I’d like to congratulate the person who filed these charges, they have just rallied the world’s press in an attack on the country they must so sincerely claim to love.
Good that the other foreign press clubs are speaking out against this travesty! This is the kind of pressure that should be brought to bear so that the Thai Police and other officials have a clear idea on how much damage would be done to Thailand’s reputation by proceeding with such a ridiculous case. Yet another good example on why the lese majeste law needs to be reformed.
Thailand’s lese majeste law is incompatible with the basic codes and canons of journalism. The acquisition of newsworthy information and its subsequent dissemination to the public cannot be done in the atmosphere of intimidation.
In order to answer my own question #3, I further investigate about “Human Rights Watch”.
I found out many interesting things, i.e. one can read Human Rights Watch’s reports in Japanese language. Its new research methodology is interesting, “Human Rights Watch has begun using statistical research, satellite photography, and bomb-data analysis, among other new methodologies”. In addition, I am stunned by its global reach capacity: Middle East and North Africa, Europe and Central Asia, Africa, Asia, Americas, and the United States. Furthermore, I am absorbing by the issues that Human Rights Watch are interested in: Arms, Terrorism and Counter-Terrorism. Also, its operation is fascinating, “Human Rights Watch meets with governments, the United Nations,…to press for changes in policy”. Its network is intriguing: Berlin, Geneva, Chicago, L.A., San Francisco, London, Paris, Toronto, New York.
What is the implication for the Asia-Pacific Region? I wonder.
Translation:
International Media Association Express Concern about the LM Charge against FCCT
The Southeast Asian Press Alliance – SEAPA, issued official statement expresses its concern and worry about the criminal charge by filing lese majeste law against the Foreign Correspondent’s Club of Thailand – FCCT. Mr. Lupe Arlumpe, Director of SEAPA said, “We had already said, and we say it again that lese majeste law in the Thai law system must received a review from its Parliament and Thai leader about the issue that it has been used to block and intimidate mass media in the country.”
Reptile granted royal title
Alex #5
” ‘macro’ comes from Greek (”makros”), not Latin.”
Alex is right but not only does ‘macro’ come from Greek but so do ‘basilo’ (╬Т╬▒╧Г╬╣╬╗╬╡╧Н╧В) and ‘chelys’ (╧З╬н╬╗╧Е╧В) to which Andrew also incorrectly ascribed Latin derivations – 3 out of 4 wrong!
The reptile namers presumably have stronger classical backgrounds than Andrew and did, at least, avoid the pitfall of mixing Latin with Greek.
Where’s Vajiralongkorn?
OK, Andrew, I looked. Couldn’t find him. Unless that was him in the swimming pool?
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
jonfernquest is fond of making accusations with no evidence. The war on drugs had considerable coverage here and at a range of other sites. I think this is downright dishonest to ignore the academic study of and blog commentary on these and related issues.
The unsolved murders of 10’s of farmers in the 1970s has recently been taken up in Critical Asian Studies etc. etc. South in Askew and McCargo. Academic support to Crisis Group and HRW when they examine these issues and so on.
What jonfernquest seems more to imply by his negative statements is to deny non-Thai journalists the fundamental right to free expression. At the same time, he is ignoring that the FCCT has Thai members including on the executive committee.
I disagree with Phil Robertson. The LM law does not need reform. It needs to be abolished.
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
At the risk of driving the tireless JonFernquest to apoplexy, I’d like to draw his (and others’) attention to a well-written, bitingly funny and wickedly accurate take on the subject to be found at Prachatai English: http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/1287
A faint hope but, with more articles like this, the current form of LM laws just might be on the way to being mocked into well-deserved extinction. Plainly, anyone expecting Abhisit to actually DO anything to live up to his words to the fellows at Oxford is in for a very long wait………..
The Secretary-General and the generals
So did he meet Mahtu Naw? That’s a meeting I’d haved loved to have attended.
The lese majeste circus continues
Abhisit could simplify the entire thing by throwing Akbar Khan out of the country.
This single individual, based purely on personal resentment, is bringing low not only the reputation of Thailand but also making sure that every single commentator on the planet will now associate the Thai King with the oppression of freedom of speech using a law that the same Thai King has implied he is not happy with.
Akbar Khan is serving his own weird interests – purely and simply – at the expense of journalists, Thais and the reputation of a mostly benevolent king. He must be removed from the kingdom forthwith.
kebenaran terkini menyangkut Permainan Bandarq
I know of specific instances of medical services available to poor people before Thaksin too. Open heart surgery for a small girl whose mother was a motor cycle taxi driver abandoned by her husband, waiting list at Chiang Mai University hospital.
Then there are the myriad number of things that aren’t free at all. Perhaps 10,000 – 20,000 baht for surgery is cheap, but it isn’t free, and it is little different from the situation before Thaksin.
Then there was the colleague whose wife died of cancer in Roi Et after exhausting probably 100,000 baht in medical expenses and they were informed of the diagnosis after she died. No chemotherapy for her.
Then there is my personal experience (condition from sports a little like a hernia but optional surgery). Present your card at the designated hospital only to have the doctor tell you very indirectly (no doubt within the bounds of the law) don’t expect to get anything with that, come back with your insurance policy card.
I would venture to say the major difference is that some doctors are paid to sit for several hours at the local provincial hospital to take care of universal health care patients (paid per patient) and dispense free medicine.
What is the main point here?
Some investigative journalist should get the low down on what you really get with your “free” healthcare card.
The lese majeste circus continues
In an Economist article (04.07), which was responsible for yet another banning of their print edition, there is, in a reasonable coverage of the state-of-play re. LM, this interesting paragraph:
“The authorities are also going after webmasters for failing to delete offensive posts promptly enough. One, Chiranuch Premchaiporn, who runs Prachatai.com, a news website, was charged in April because her site carried a comment by one user which allegedly excoriated Queen Sirikit. Ms Chiranuch insists that she deleted the post when asked to by MICT. But Aree Jiworarak, an official at the ministry, says Ms Chiranuch should have spotted the post herself and is “responsible for what happens”. To her distress, Ms Chiranuch was forced to disclose private data that led police to the user, a Thai woman with the online name “Bento”, who was arrested and charged. Ms Chiranuch faces multiple counts that could, potentially, send her away for 50 years.”
See it at http://www.economist.com/world/asia/displaystory.cfm?story_id=13962550
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
Fernquest
So now we’re not allowed to defend freedom of speech because of Thaksin’s war on drugs? Seems a bit of a bizarre and odd tangent to take.
You also might find that the same journalists in the firing line now are the same ones in the firing line when Thaksin was in power. They are also the ones who’ve been working hard to defend the rights of Thai journalists as well.
Your memory is obviously selective and short. Or you were too busy being sanctimonious to notice I guess.
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
Jon, send us the details of the Thai journalists who were shot and we will feature them. AW
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
When hard working truth seeking Thai journalists are shot in the head by vote-buying local godfathers р╣Ар╕Ир╣Йр╕▓р╕Юр╣Ир╕н , not newsworthy for New Mandala.
But when the freedom of speech rights of western journalists and academics are threated with the FCCT case…..different story…
Likewise, Thaksin’s bloody hands (~3,000 extrajudicial executions during “Drug War” , Tak Bai, Krue Se Mosque) are washed conviently clean in the short spans of the memories of academics or blamed entirely on PM Abhisit when official inquiries can’t get the will power to implicate relevant р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕бр╕╡р╕нр╕┤р╕Чр╕Шр╕┤р╕Юр╕е
When will you guys pull your head out of the “realm of images” and enter the “realm of (life or death) reality” ?
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
Brainface… why oh why did you post about his youtube website? I had a look and now I am so depressed! Anyway, that guy is seriously sick: has anyone read his comment about Thaksin being the reincarnation of Lucifer and Obama being either the reincarnation of Jesus Christ or the Antichrist? There’s no hint of irony or sarcasm in there. I shudder to think such a person is taken seriously, and apparently many Thais like his professed “love for the country”, and his ways of showing it.
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
Just found this on Khan –
http://whoisakbarkhaninbangkok.blogspot.com/
seems like some people are really fed up with him now – they are also asking for any info anyone has on him.
Reptile granted royal title
“macro” comes from Greek (“makros”), not Latin.
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
In total agreement with Susie – and the very interesting thing is that a British (wannabe) journalist is behind most of this. Someone called Akbar Khan – a British Asian who speaks Thai and has lived in Thailand for many years. He also has the youtube channel “cyberak”.
His level of resentment towards the FCCT is very strange and appears almost pathological. He was also behind Jonathan Head’s and Jakrapob Penkair’s LM charges.
This person now needs to be completely exposed – you can find him on both Facebook and Linked In. His Linked In page lists his work but the company websites of whom he claims to work for are dead. He seems to be a bit of a fantasist. Some of his youtube stuff is very odd indeed – particularly the comments he makes on each vid.
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
Yet again, Thailand demonstrates its seemingly unquenchable desire, having blown its feet off, to continue blasting away its own legs.
I’d like to congratulate the person who filed these charges, they have just rallied the world’s press in an attack on the country they must so sincerely claim to love.
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
Good that the other foreign press clubs are speaking out against this travesty! This is the kind of pressure that should be brought to bear so that the Thai Police and other officials have a clear idea on how much damage would be done to Thailand’s reputation by proceeding with such a ridiculous case. Yet another good example on why the lese majeste law needs to be reformed.
“An attack on the rights of journalists”
Thailand’s lese majeste law is incompatible with the basic codes and canons of journalism. The acquisition of newsworthy information and its subsequent dissemination to the public cannot be done in the atmosphere of intimidation.
Burma-North Korea double team
In order to answer my own question #3, I further investigate about “Human Rights Watch”.
I found out many interesting things, i.e. one can read Human Rights Watch’s reports in Japanese language. Its new research methodology is interesting, “Human Rights Watch has begun using statistical research, satellite photography, and bomb-data analysis, among other new methodologies”. In addition, I am stunned by its global reach capacity: Middle East and North Africa, Europe and Central Asia, Africa, Asia, Americas, and the United States. Furthermore, I am absorbing by the issues that Human Rights Watch are interested in: Arms, Terrorism and Counter-Terrorism. Also, its operation is fascinating, “Human Rights Watch meets with governments, the United Nations,…to press for changes in policy”. Its network is intriguing: Berlin, Geneva, Chicago, L.A., San Francisco, London, Paris, Toronto, New York.
What is the implication for the Asia-Pacific Region? I wonder.
The lese majeste circus continues
Extracted from Prachatai News:
“р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣Мр╕Бр╕гр╕кр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕гр╕░р╕лр╕зр╣Ир╕▓р╕Зр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Чр╕и р╣Бр╕кр╕Фр╕Зр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕зр╕┤р╕Хр╕Бр╕Бр╕▒р╕Зр╕зр╕ер╕Хр╣Ир╕нр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕кр╕бр╕▓р╕Др╕бр╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕кр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Вр╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╕Хр╣Ир╕▓р╕Зр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Чр╕ир╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕Ир╕│р╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Чр╕ир╣Др╕Чр╕вр╕Цр╕╣р╕Бр╕Яр╣Йр╕нр╕Зр╕лр╕бр╕┤р╣Ир╕Щр╕п
Mon, 2009-07-06 02:42
(The Southeast Asian Press Alliance -SEAPA) р╕Лр╕╡р╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕нр╕нр╕Бр╣Бр╕Цр╕ер╕Зр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Ур╣М р╣Бр╕кр╕Фр╕Зр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕зр╕┤р╕Хр╕Бр╕Бр╕▒р╕Зр╕зр╕ер╕Хр╣Ир╕нр╕Бр╕гр╕Ур╕╡р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╣Гр╕Кр╣Йр╕Бр╕Ор╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╕лр╕бр╕┤р╣Ир╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕гр╕бр╣Ар╕Фр╕Кр╕▓р╕Щр╕╕р╕ар╕▓р╕Юр╕Яр╣Йр╕нр╕Зр╕гр╣Йр╕нр╕Зр╕Др╕Ур╕░ р╕Бр╕гр╕гр╕бр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕кр╕бр╕▓р╕Др╕бр╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕кр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕Вр╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╕Хр╣Ир╕▓р╕Зр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Чр╕ир╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╕Ир╕│р╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Чр╕ир╣Др╕Чр╕в
р╣Вр╕гр╕Ър╕╡р╣Й р╕нр╕▓р╕ер╕▒р╕бр╣Ар╕Ыр╕вр╣М р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕нр╕│р╕Щр╕зр╕вр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Лр╕╡р╕Ыр╣Йр╕▓р╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕з р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╣Ар╕гр╕▓р╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Др╕Ыр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Вр╕нр╕Бр╕ер╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╕нр╕╡р╕Бр╕Др╕гр╕▒р╣Йр╕Зр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Бр╕Ор╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╕лр╕бр╕┤р╣Ир╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕гр╕бр╣Ар╕Фр╕Кр╕▓р╕Щр╕╕р╕ар╕▓р╕Юр╣Гр╕Щр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕Ър╕Бр╕Ор╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╣Др╕Чр╕вр╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щр╕Хр╣Йр╕нр╕Зр╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕гр╕▒р╕Ър╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Чр╕Ър╕Чр╕зр╕Щр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕кр╕ар╕▓ р╕Щр╕┤р╕Хр╕┤р╕Ър╕▒р╕Нр╕Нр╕▒р╕Хр╕┤р╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Ьр╕╣р╣Йр╕Щр╕│р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╣Др╕Чр╕вр╕Хр╣Ир╕нр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Фр╣Зр╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕бр╕▒р╕Щр╕Цр╕╣р╕Бр╣Гр╕Кр╣Йр╣Гр╕Щр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Ыр╕┤р╕Фр╕Бр╕▒р╣Йр╕Щр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕Др╕╕р╕Бр╕Др╕▓р╕бр╕кр╕╖р╣Ир╕н р╕бр╕зр╕ер╕Кр╕Щр╣Гр╕Щр╕Ыр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Чр╕и”
Translation:
International Media Association Express Concern about the LM Charge against FCCT
The Southeast Asian Press Alliance – SEAPA, issued official statement expresses its concern and worry about the criminal charge by filing lese majeste law against the Foreign Correspondent’s Club of Thailand – FCCT. Mr. Lupe Arlumpe, Director of SEAPA said, “We had already said, and we say it again that lese majeste law in the Thai law system must received a review from its Parliament and Thai leader about the issue that it has been used to block and intimidate mass media in the country.”