I really enjoy reading this blog. I know for sure which side this blog is rooting for, but all writers here never sacrifice their critical thinking and integrity, which is great to see.
So the Chinese deep penetration strategy into Burma was successful on all fronts: politically, economically, socially, religiously, demographically, physically, ecologically, mentally, militarily, …
The Chinese brain-washing propaganda machine and its 2Y-strategy is relentless, all over the world.
I wish all these wanna-be-like-a-rich-tayoke- Mianmese good luck in Shenzhen heaven after their Chinese funerals.
Long live Mian Dian a Chinese tributary vassal colony.
Awfully good of toch not to discriminate among Kalars. Tell you what all to the west of Burma used to be called Kalar. So you might say what’s the difference.
Dark or pale they were Kalar to us. So like the wogs start from Calais, the Kalars start from Chittagong. Only we did not use the term Kalar the same as wog since it did not originate from a derogatory word however misrepresented nowadays seemingly by all Kalars.
Thanks to the whole NM team – great to read the live blog and get the most informed take on what happened in Indonesia today. Loved seeing Ed Aspinall’s misappropriated quote – Congrats Ed there’s no higher praise!
Trust you’ll get the band back together for Philippines 2016 – I’d love to help out! Chris Urbanski
Since I cannot publish controversial things on NM, which you know full well, your useless
challenge is noted. You need merely google
Gharkad Tree or Qarqad Tree and you will find the quote and you know that full well.
Next to a Prabowo win this is a dreadful situation. The pressure on the KPU to come up with a result favouring Prabowo will be intense. Even if the people at the top are clean, how are they going to secure the integrity of the ballot papers when every driver, security guard and clerk around the archipelago is likely to be tempted with offers to tamper? And should the result favour Jokowi, then it will be legal challenges. A man who believes it’s his destiny to rule the Republic isn’t likely to concede defeat. This is not going to be a happy time. Incidentally, in our TPS the vote was a dead heat, 177 votes each.
“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews”. (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim) Sahih Muslim, 41:6985
While I don’t disagree with your overall thesis concerning the state of the economy and the ability of the junta to manage it in the face of current circumstances, I would like to correct one inaccuracy. You state that Thai fishing and agricultural products are facing a boycott from Western food distribution and marketing companies such as Carrefour and Tescos. While Carrefour might be changing their policy in response to the criticisms surrounding use of slavery in Thai prawn production chains, as far as Tesco is concerned, they are too deeply in bed with CP Foods to risk changing suppliers, much less a boycott and would rather risk losing customers at home, realising that most Guardian readers are not their typical clientele. Moreover, they have restated their commitment to working with their suppliers, believing that they can change the slavery practices through a kind of “constructive engagement”. The Tesco commercial director, even justified their decision in a CiF piece in The Guardian in late June: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/20/tesco-boycotting-thai-fishmeal-farmers
Unlike you though, I don’t agree that the solution to the generals’ problems is to go on a massive infrastructure spending spree. This was the previous government’s solution and was a not inconsiderable contributing factor to their downfall, in particular the ill-advised 350 billion baht water resources infrastructure plan. Anyone recall the large numbers of people that turned out on streets of Bangkok last October to support Sasin Chalermsap’s long march? The scale of corruption these mega-infrastructure projects seem to automatically generate, might lead to a little caution on the junta’s part, if they want to last the course.
There are at least two versions, a Mandala and a Nation variant. The outright contradiction in this version is amazing. In its final passage, the authors say that as a consequence of the coup ‘we will apply…neither democracy, nor socialism, or even Thaksin cronyism for that matter.’ In an early passage we can read about the restoration of ‘true democratic governance that suits the Thais.’ Taken together, these two claims lead to a contradiction, at least if ‘democracy’ is saved from equivocation. If you neither apply A nor B, you apply non-A and non-B. Thus, given the example, the authors claim that democracy will not be applied (Thailand should become undemocratic, that is), and do this after saying that ‘democratic governance that suits all the Thais’ should be restored. In the Nation version, the passage reads a bit lighter, asking to ‘avoid the trap of rigid norms, whether they be democratic, totalitarian or even crony-capitalist.’ Still, this is just hilarious.
Sit- tut as a whole has indebted (uncountable billions just for that tunnel- ridden concrete Potemkin City but also the cost of the Pipe and coastal installation going in the book of the Burmese people as well) the whole country to the Chinese to such unfathomable deep pit that Sit- tut is not in a position to even to look at the Lobans in the eyes, let alone foment any little dissent.
Remember it took only a lone regional commander of PLA to make that lurid, decadent and deranged but financially thriving casino- and- vice town, Maung La to disappear.
It is notable that both Sit-tut and that obscenely celebrated nominal ” opposition” woman have always kowtowed to the Lobans consistently. And Than Shwe’s confidence not to let that woman anywhere near ” real” power. Without that woman in official responsible signature wielding position, share holders in global corporations will not commit themselves. Not that the people of Burma will be better off if they do. Just the opposite.
Now it is the most virally spreading mantra in this liberated, progressive Burma. ( in near future, people in Latpadaung would be singing the same, as will the Kachin.) After all, Korean soaps which is the most detailed “how to be 21st century human being” lessons to the progressive
Burmese starting with Tin Moe Lwin is “West Wing – Martin Sheen- Democratic government” equivalent of Shwe Mann and Co.
Bike- pu Buddha is now everywhere. It is not Buddhism of Teraveda embracing the Chinese, but the empty minded Progressive Burmese aping any thing any rich neighbours/ Asians do including 3-inch shorts for girls and carrying exploded pictures of dead ancestors at each and every funerals- so ultra- Burmese, all the while screaming Rabid Nationalism, taking that irrational virulent bullying arrogance for something to be proud of. One has to admit. Sit- tut has done a thorough de- braining job on the whole country.
Chinese and Yanks (they are one and same as far as raping the last virgin land and toying with lives of consistent slave society- 55 millions?- is concerned) have easy walk in.
“The National Council for Peace and Order has asked other countries not to facilitate any overseas Thai dissident movement, warning that it would be considered an unwarranted intervention in the internal affairs of Thailand.” But I thought that we had already had just such an unwarranted (military) intervention.
[…] achieved in the years since Suharto’s fall. Specifically, he has proposed restoring Indonesia’s 1945 constitution, removing many checks and balances and strengthening the […]
I am not surprised you are “no name”. Not prepared to associate your name with Indonesian responsibility ? The answer I expected; when in doubt (100 % of the time for many Indonesians), there is always the British and the Dutch to blame, as Indonesians are not colonialists and are perfect, eh ?
Terima kasih atas bantuannya. Apa yang jadi sebetulnya cukup jelas. Menurut laporan misalnya di Tempo, PDIP “kehilangan kursi ketua DPR”. Ketua akan dipilih nanti bulan Oktober oleh semua anggota DPR. Kalau mayoritasnya menghendaki calon dari PDIP, Puan atau calonnya mungkin terpilih. Kalau tidak, calon partai lain yang akan dipilih.
PDIP: Partai Demokrasi Indonesia Perjuangan [Indonesian Democratic Party – Struggle] the party that supports Jokowi.
DPR: Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat [House of Representatives]
PKB: Partai Kebangkitan Bangsa [Nation Awakening Party] coalition partner of PDI-P in supporting Jokowi.
There was a discussion on the DPR to change the rule regarding how to elect the Speaker of the house. Not sure what the outcome was but the discussion was seen by PDIP as disadvantageous to them, having won the most seats in DPR.
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LIVE BLOG: Indonesian Presidential Election
I really enjoy reading this blog. I know for sure which side this blog is rooting for, but all writers here never sacrifice their critical thinking and integrity, which is great to see.
Rumour, religion and riots in Mandalay
So the Chinese deep penetration strategy into Burma was successful on all fronts: politically, economically, socially, religiously, demographically, physically, ecologically, mentally, militarily, …
The Chinese brain-washing propaganda machine and its 2Y-strategy is relentless, all over the world.
I wish all these wanna-be-like-a-rich-tayoke- Mianmese good luck in Shenzhen heaven after their Chinese funerals.
Long live Mian Dian a Chinese tributary vassal colony.
Bring on the ballot
This site is a great resource and the Indonesia analysis has been excellent. Many thanks.
Rumour, religion and riots in Mandalay
Awfully good of toch not to discriminate among Kalars. Tell you what all to the west of Burma used to be called Kalar. So you might say what’s the difference.
Dark or pale they were Kalar to us. So like the wogs start from Calais, the Kalars start from Chittagong. Only we did not use the term Kalar the same as wog since it did not originate from a derogatory word however misrepresented nowadays seemingly by all Kalars.
LIVE BLOG: Indonesian Presidential Election
Thanks to the whole NM team – great to read the live blog and get the most informed take on what happened in Indonesia today. Loved seeing Ed Aspinall’s misappropriated quote – Congrats Ed there’s no higher praise!
Trust you’ll get the band back together for Philippines 2016 – I’d love to help out! Chris Urbanski
Let God decide
Since I cannot publish controversial things on NM, which you know full well, your useless
challenge is noted. You need merely google
Gharkad Tree or Qarqad Tree and you will find the quote and you know that full well.
LIVE BLOG: Indonesian Presidential Election
Next to a Prabowo win this is a dreadful situation. The pressure on the KPU to come up with a result favouring Prabowo will be intense. Even if the people at the top are clean, how are they going to secure the integrity of the ballot papers when every driver, security guard and clerk around the archipelago is likely to be tempted with offers to tamper? And should the result favour Jokowi, then it will be legal challenges. A man who believes it’s his destiny to rule the Republic isn’t likely to concede defeat. This is not going to be a happy time. Incidentally, in our TPS the vote was a dead heat, 177 votes each.
Let God decide
“The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews”. (related by al-Bukhari and Muslim) Sahih Muslim, 41:6985
Thailand’s coup: same same but different?
While I don’t disagree with your overall thesis concerning the state of the economy and the ability of the junta to manage it in the face of current circumstances, I would like to correct one inaccuracy. You state that Thai fishing and agricultural products are facing a boycott from Western food distribution and marketing companies such as Carrefour and Tescos. While Carrefour might be changing their policy in response to the criticisms surrounding use of slavery in Thai prawn production chains, as far as Tesco is concerned, they are too deeply in bed with CP Foods to risk changing suppliers, much less a boycott and would rather risk losing customers at home, realising that most Guardian readers are not their typical clientele. Moreover, they have restated their commitment to working with their suppliers, believing that they can change the slavery practices through a kind of “constructive engagement”. The Tesco commercial director, even justified their decision in a CiF piece in The Guardian in late June:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jun/20/tesco-boycotting-thai-fishmeal-farmers
Unlike you though, I don’t agree that the solution to the generals’ problems is to go on a massive infrastructure spending spree. This was the previous government’s solution and was a not inconsiderable contributing factor to their downfall, in particular the ill-advised 350 billion baht water resources infrastructure plan. Anyone recall the large numbers of people that turned out on streets of Bangkok last October to support Sasin Chalermsap’s long march? The scale of corruption these mega-infrastructure projects seem to automatically generate, might lead to a little caution on the junta’s part, if they want to last the course.
Thailand’s coup: same same but different?
There are at least two versions, a Mandala and a Nation variant. The outright contradiction in this version is amazing. In its final passage, the authors say that as a consequence of the coup ‘we will apply…neither democracy, nor socialism, or even Thaksin cronyism for that matter.’ In an early passage we can read about the restoration of ‘true democratic governance that suits the Thais.’ Taken together, these two claims lead to a contradiction, at least if ‘democracy’ is saved from equivocation. If you neither apply A nor B, you apply non-A and non-B. Thus, given the example, the authors claim that democracy will not be applied (Thailand should become undemocratic, that is), and do this after saying that ‘democratic governance that suits all the Thais’ should be restored. In the Nation version, the passage reads a bit lighter, asking to ‘avoid the trap of rigid norms, whether they be democratic, totalitarian or even crony-capitalist.’ Still, this is just hilarious.
LIVE BLOG: Indonesian Presidential Election
Congratulations to all at new mandala for this excellent initiative, the ‘indonesia votes’ blog. What a feat of co-ordination it must have been!
Let God decide
O Hang Tuah, recite for us the Suras (Chapter and its Verse) about gharqad trees and stones from Qur’an if you are the people of knowledge.
Surely you will never found that kind of verse mentioned on the Qur’an. Then why you speak something that you have no knowledge about?
Rumour, religion and riots in Mandalay
Sit- tut as a whole has indebted (uncountable billions just for that tunnel- ridden concrete Potemkin City but also the cost of the Pipe and coastal installation going in the book of the Burmese people as well) the whole country to the Chinese to such unfathomable deep pit that Sit- tut is not in a position to even to look at the Lobans in the eyes, let alone foment any little dissent.
Remember it took only a lone regional commander of PLA to make that lurid, decadent and deranged but financially thriving casino- and- vice town, Maung La to disappear.
It is notable that both Sit-tut and that obscenely celebrated nominal ” opposition” woman have always kowtowed to the Lobans consistently. And Than Shwe’s confidence not to let that woman anywhere near ” real” power. Without that woman in official responsible signature wielding position, share holders in global corporations will not commit themselves. Not that the people of Burma will be better off if they do. Just the opposite.
Rumour, religion and riots in Mandalay
Told you toch. “In Loban, we worship”.
Now it is the most virally spreading mantra in this liberated, progressive Burma. ( in near future, people in Latpadaung would be singing the same, as will the Kachin.) After all, Korean soaps which is the most detailed “how to be 21st century human being” lessons to the progressive
Burmese starting with Tin Moe Lwin is “West Wing – Martin Sheen- Democratic government” equivalent of Shwe Mann and Co.
Bike- pu Buddha is now everywhere. It is not Buddhism of Teraveda embracing the Chinese, but the empty minded Progressive Burmese aping any thing any rich neighbours/ Asians do including 3-inch shorts for girls and carrying exploded pictures of dead ancestors at each and every funerals- so ultra- Burmese, all the while screaming Rabid Nationalism, taking that irrational virulent bullying arrogance for something to be proud of. One has to admit. Sit- tut has done a thorough de- braining job on the whole country.
Chinese and Yanks (they are one and same as far as raping the last virgin land and toying with lives of consistent slave society- 55 millions?- is concerned) have easy walk in.
Bring on the ballot
Maksud saya diatas, Puan atau calon lainnya mungkin terpilih. Mestinya juga saya ketik ‘apa yang terjadi cukup jelas’.
Thai coup: The debate continues
“The National Council for Peace and Order has asked other countries not to facilitate any overseas Thai dissident movement, warning that it would be considered an unwarranted intervention in the internal affairs of Thailand.” But I thought that we had already had just such an unwarranted (military) intervention.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/most-recent/419680/ncpo-asks-govts-not-to-aid-dissidents
Don’t be fooled – Prabowo (still) wants to get rid of direct presidential elections
[…] achieved in the years since Suharto’s fall. Specifically, he has proposed restoring Indonesia’s 1945 constitution, removing many checks and balances and strengthening the […]
Presidential elections in Papua
I am not surprised you are “no name”. Not prepared to associate your name with Indonesian responsibility ? The answer I expected; when in doubt (100 % of the time for many Indonesians), there is always the British and the Dutch to blame, as Indonesians are not colonialists and are perfect, eh ?
Bring on the ballot
Terima kasih atas bantuannya. Apa yang jadi sebetulnya cukup jelas. Menurut laporan misalnya di Tempo, PDIP “kehilangan kursi ketua DPR”. Ketua akan dipilih nanti bulan Oktober oleh semua anggota DPR. Kalau mayoritasnya menghendaki calon dari PDIP, Puan atau calonnya mungkin terpilih. Kalau tidak, calon partai lain yang akan dipilih.
Bring on the ballot
PDIP: Partai Demokrasi Indonesia Perjuangan [Indonesian Democratic Party – Struggle] the party that supports Jokowi.
DPR: Dewan Perwakilan Rakyat [House of Representatives]
PKB: Partai Kebangkitan Bangsa [Nation Awakening Party] coalition partner of PDI-P in supporting Jokowi.
There was a discussion on the DPR to change the rule regarding how to elect the Speaker of the house. Not sure what the outcome was but the discussion was seen by PDIP as disadvantageous to them, having won the most seats in DPR.
hope that helps.