There are no absolute freedoms anywhere. The right to peaceful assembly is qualified by the word peaceful. Malaysia is distinctly different from Queensland or Britain from which its constitution and the framework on which its constitution was based was derived.
Then analysis of the new bill is conceptually flawed as it is viewed by an Anglo Saxon from the perspectives of what an Anglo Saxon sees as rights, right and wrong.
Australia from where the writer hails has never had an insurgency like that which Malaysia faced in the 1950’s 60’s and 70’s. In that era a large polity from within acted as Trojan horses as they continue to do today of a foreign power (China) in an effort to win domination of the peninsula and beyond in the name of a greater China or Nanyang as the Chinese called it.
There are several other perspectives and angles from which the writer of this article attacks the new legislation which lacks cross cultural reference to make her comments valid.
There are too many points she raises which distorts the facts that require a more detailed response here.
The use of the ANU and now the Asian Law Centre as a source of destabilization of South East Asian governments seen as lesser being by Australia is an age old trick.
It will be resisted at every level especially now that Australia is struggling to come to terms with the Chinese dominance of the region and their belligerence and hostility to even Australia trying to dictate its foreign policy from Beijing.
Khun Vichai’s imagination runs to gratutious and patronizing remarks about Thailand’s female PM – crossing her legs and hoping for the best – which might seem to indicate that he is quite (no extremely) sexist and finds he is incapable of coping with Thailand’s first elected female PM.
I know New Mandela is against repetitive ranting, unimaginative point-scoring and idle abuse but I am not sure Khun Vichai qualifies himself as anything more than this at present: well at least on this topic. His points made relating to LM and how people are treated are good points but here I am afraid he is wide of the mark.
Some might even argue Khun Vichai needs a good swift kick in the u=you nowheres…….
The mission of the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission is to promote, defend and advocate internationally recognized human rights norms in a nonpartisan manner, both within and outside of Congress, as enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other relevant human rights instruments. In particular, the Commission shall:…
5. The data
One uses knowledge (theory, observations, etc) to make sense of data. For example – If 99% of the highest ranking positions in the public sector come from a particular race in a multicultural country – how would you interpret it.
The last 3 comments allude to a level of bigotry and ignorance that has become a staple of Malaysians who have found the internet as a convenient tool to do what they otherwise do at coffee shops. And that is to wax lyrical about things they do not understand and in the process allow their latent prejudices and ignorance to come to the fore.
What is it about Najib Razak, Prime Ministers words that offend? The Malays do perceive themslves as a race of wariors like the Marathas or the Sikhs or the Rajputs see themselves as warriors. That of itself does not mean they are about to declare war on anyone although they can be forgiven for declaring war on bigotry and the encroachment by Chinese and some Indians on their rights recognized at international law to being the natives and therefore rightful owners and original inhabitants of Malaysia.
The right to respond to the threat to the Malay’s rightful dominance of the Malaysian archipelago is an inalienable right of the Malays both as recognized custodians of the territory they call Tanah Melayu and everything that is culturally Malay and as a majority in a democracy. whats your problem with that Neptunian? You may keep banging your head against a wall f someone else does not do it for you but you will change nothing except to perhaps create a greater deal of intolerance from the majority against people like you who are non Malay.
The dominance of the Chinese in trade and commerce began with the false premise that the Chinese somehow ar superior in business, having been firstly given special rights by the British who conned the Tengku into extending that right to them.
Joe Studwell one more amongst many others has documented the Chinese art of business prowess which includes strong arm tactics by their Triad thugs, corruption, prostitution, drug peddling then going legitimate by corrupting poorly paid public servants. It is endemic throughout Asia and wherever they go and is a legacy of the British and American anti communist bullwark they created using one form of Chinaman (the Kuomintang) against the other equally destructive Chinaman the Maoist.
Australia and India the US and Canada all practice a form of positive discrimination which Malaysia also practices. In India it is the OBC (Other Backward Castes) preferential treatment in education, business and reservation for jobs.
In Australia it is for mainly white women although they say it si for women, a discriminated class. It has endured for decades.In the Americas it is for the Afro Americans and American Indians and yes the white women in the name of womens rights.
The Malays must defend themselves against the encroachment of the likes of the Chinese using the Amah Ambiga Sreenivasan and the power of western lobbies like Hillary Clinton, the Australian government and the British Cheevning scholars as their Trojan horse to dominate the Malays.
If you believe in a democracy you must accept you have a right to express yourself Singaporeans and Chinese in China do not enjoy. You must also accept that the Malays in all their forms, orang Asli Kadazans and Dayaks or other have a right as a majority inspite of their internal differences to exercise over you. If you do not like it find a utopia where you will find the glories of an unfettered freedom where everything is equal and without blemish or human folly.
I feel for you. I hope your better treated where-ever you are.
1. RPK’s website.
The convention is to compare apples with apples. RPK’s blog can be considered a socio-political blog. So, we can compare his blog with other media outlets that provide socio-political analysis. People visit Kim Kardashian’s website not to find out the truth about Malaysia but for things that I would not even bother to speculate.
So, if one wanted news on Malaysia – you will not go to the mainstream media but to the alternative websites and among the alternative websites, MT is tops.
2. While there is no censorship on the internet, people assume that it means anyone can say anything. This is not true. It does provide anonymity, if one chooses. But if one puts their money where their mouth is, and be brave and reveals oneself, its a different story. One is then liable for what is said. Rocky Bru found out recently when he posted in his blog that Rais Yatim raped his maid.
RPK has never tried to hide his identity.
3. If you read the statutory declaration and what he said on TV3 – there is no inconsistency. In his SD, he said, that he had been told by so-and-so that Rosmah Mansor was at the scene of the crime. He did not say that he saw or he knew that Rosmah Mansor was at the scene of the crime. It was definitely a mistake to speak to TV3 in my opinion, especially pre-recorded, knowing their reputation for spin. But the point is, what RPK put in the SD is no different from what he said on TV3.
4. I agree with you that a majority of Malaysians are stupid. Its also the same with Australia, the US, the UK, India, China..or anywhere. That’s the nature of human society.
However, its critical that we have the best 5% leading us – otherwise its disastrous. Democracy, is the best way to manage stupid people and get the best to lead – if done properly.
So, the US (not always – re George Bush Jr), Australia (heaven forbid Tony Abbot), etc..do get many (not all) of the best and brightest to lead their countries. Its not the case in Malaysia.
>Cyber Warriors… launched by the Democrat Party.
Yes, but it was AV’s personal secretary who received the SMSs and reported it. I don’t think there was any team of snitches involved. Just the secretary, and those who arrested/prosecuted the old man. Were they Dem Party members/supporters? Perhaps. Or just people in the bureaucracy blindly/poorly following orders, as is the culture here.
Culturally, the Dems and the Cyber Warriors share very similar political ideals. But I do not believe the Cyber Warriors had anything to do with AhKong. I’m not entirely sure Mallika was even aware of AhKong until the news broke.
>Cyber Warriors… launched by the Democrat Party.
Yes, but the Cyber Warriors did not report AhKong. It was AV’s personal secretary who received the SMSs and reported it. And probably Dem Party members that followed through on it (no evidence to support this last claim).
Culturally, the Dems and the Cyber Warriors share very similar political ideals. But I do not believe the Cyber Warriors had anything to do with AhKong.
“Ontological pluralism”, much like moral relativism, is attractive if you think history is an irrelevance.
Thailand’s “ontology” has been struggled over and forged through the application of power as much as anywhere else.
Just ask Pridi, Jit Phumisak or the 1000s who’ve died at the hands of the various juntas over the decades.
Even dominant Thai ontologies have, within national borders, been far less than monolithic. But the dominant one didn’t achieve that position by “winning arguments”. It did so down the barrel of a gun.
Greg,
These guyz are always like that. Whatever happens to them is ‘discrimination’,’racism’,’sidelining’ and ‘islamophobia’. If they persecutre others and other speak out, it is ‘blatant lies’,’misinterpretation’,’manipulation’ and ‘betrayal’.
Just like if a woman gets raped, she needs 4 MALE witnesses to prove the claim. If she can’t SHE is convicted for having sex with the rapist, and no witnesses are required for that. This is the culture. 🙂
What UMNO had for it all this time was fear. And when that fear subsides…as it has and must, the residue that remains is hate.
I live in this country. Schools, jobs, housing, contracts, government projects, medical facilities et al, have preferential quotas for the MAJORITY of the people – The Malay Muslims, almost all of which use the Jew argument to suppress the rest. 50 years of self rule and they still have not been able to come out ahead. My government is Apartheid. No two ways about it. It preaches discrimination by race and religion. Notably…. 20% of the Christian minority… is responsible for all their ills. In the meantime, drug abuse, baby dumping and incest are almost entirely a Muslim hallmark.
RPK has 10 mil hits so can be trusted? Kim Kardashian has 10 mil viewers, so I bet she must be trusted.
Tom Lantos died in 2008, if you googled you’d find out. Theres data in that ‘report’ from 2011.
Two-thirds of it is true, but typical Malaysians for trying to sensationalize something by affiliating it with supposed influential people who unfortunately are dead.
I’m Malaysian, and I am a victim of institutional discrimination, but with the stupidity I see from ALL Malaysians, not just those in power, it seems better to leave the country than try changing anything.
I totally agree with your assertation that the Malays are superior in Malaysia. I however have a hard time reconciling the “superior” label with the constant cries for help, assistances and govt crutches by the Malays.
Please explain to me, how a superior race would need all those extra “leg up” help? Should not a superior race be extending a “helping” hand to others instead?
In case you have a hard time understanding my question, let me illustrate.
Should a student “superior” in his or her studies be asking for a lower passing mark and extra tuition versus the “lesser” student, or should he / she be put on the same “grading table”? In fact should not the superior student be offering help to the “lesser” student?
“We will not allow our people to be insulted. We will not back down by even an inch. We are warriors,” he said to cheers at Pertubuhan Kebajikan dan Dakwah Islamiah Malaysia’s (Pekida) gathering here before leading cries of “Hidup Melayu (long live the Malays)!”
That is the statement made by PM Najib in his address to PEKIDA.
Please tell me again.. which part of that reflects a moderate moslem? Which part of that is a speech to a “charity and welfare” organisation?
Exactly who is PM Najib going to war against? Who is he threatening with violence? AND who has been insulting the Malays?
Let me quote (sorry only generic quotation);
We Malays need special help from govt.
We Malays have to be taken care of, otherwise we cannot compete with the other races – especially the Chinese (Chinese Malaysian)
We Malays need.. special entry (lower grades) to inst of higher learning.
To me that is a broad insult to the Malays? Are the prople who are saying the above assuming the Malays are either physically challenged or mentally challenged.. to use “politically correct” terms
When one can’t make a proper argument for or against an issue, the best way is to put a hat on their opponents, rather than make a case for your beliefs, opinions, or position. So “liberals”, “nazis”, “commies”, are all rather reductionist, simplified labels that frankly doesn’t help move the discussion forward. So if your intention was to challenge the so-called monolithic “liberal fundamentalism” on this forum, you have only failed miserably to contribute to the discussions and frankly demonstrated your own “shallowness” regarding such important (yet publicly censored) issue as LM/112. If you were a true pluralist, you would only welcome this rare and few dissenting voice available in new mandala and few other selective sites, which is becoming more and more under attack by mainstream “cyber warriors”.
No one should be pardoned. To pardon is to suggest an offense was committed, and none ever was. To suggest that a group of individuals is entitled to different rules or protections because of their birth is profoundly undemocratic; an offense against equality and rule of law.
But remember, LM has never been about protecting the monarchy. It has always been a tool to attack political opponents or polish a dictatorial regime’s image. Actually, the politicization of the monarchy has done more (by far) to damage the image of the monarch and promote republicanism than all the LM cases combined, so those bringing the spurious LM cases and using the imagery of the monarchy to advance their own political fortunes should, ironically, be goaled for LM.
Hi Charles,
Sorry, that was specifically ‘ontological pluralism’ I was referring to (off-hand, it’s a paradigm something along these lines, http://www.enotes.com/topic/Ontological_pluralism). Liberal pluralism is probably the most frequent reference to pluralism I’ve heard of, but it’s not the one to which I was referring.
I challenged RPK to establish the authenticity of that “mystery letter” he handed to Gobind Singh Deo to hand to the first inquiry into the death of Teoh Beng Hock. Deo Singh’s actions in handing up that document to court constituted an act of contempt. It was an unsigned document the provenance of which was in doubt and the object of which was to pervert the course of justice. It was later discovered to be a fraud. RPK fled after that letter and the article in my blog.
I was contacted by an individual from the AG’s office asking me to clarify the grounds for alleging contempt. I did in a separate advice to them after which someone I know and who RPK knows (a mutual acquaintance) emailed me that I was the subject of a poison campaign by members of the Malaysian Bar who were asked to attack me on any forum at every opportunity they got.
I wear that as a badge of honour.
Raja Petra Kamarudddin is a man who is without any sense of self respect or dignity. That applies to his followers as well. He does not get 10,000,000 hits. Far from it. The largest number of hits he received was 52,000 and that too the subject of repeat hits by his followers during an audit.
RPK and his followers do not realise that their every move is watched and monitored carefully. And thats not a bad thing. Because RPK and his followers have done nothing more than to justify the ISA for their menace to society.
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Malaysia – Assembling the Peaceful Assembly Act
There are no absolute freedoms anywhere. The right to peaceful assembly is qualified by the word peaceful. Malaysia is distinctly different from Queensland or Britain from which its constitution and the framework on which its constitution was based was derived.
Then analysis of the new bill is conceptually flawed as it is viewed by an Anglo Saxon from the perspectives of what an Anglo Saxon sees as rights, right and wrong.
Australia from where the writer hails has never had an insurgency like that which Malaysia faced in the 1950’s 60’s and 70’s. In that era a large polity from within acted as Trojan horses as they continue to do today of a foreign power (China) in an effort to win domination of the peninsula and beyond in the name of a greater China or Nanyang as the Chinese called it.
There are several other perspectives and angles from which the writer of this article attacks the new legislation which lacks cross cultural reference to make her comments valid.
There are too many points she raises which distorts the facts that require a more detailed response here.
The use of the ANU and now the Asian Law Centre as a source of destabilization of South East Asian governments seen as lesser being by Australia is an age old trick.
It will be resisted at every level especially now that Australia is struggling to come to terms with the Chinese dominance of the region and their belligerence and hostility to even Australia trying to dictate its foreign policy from Beijing.
The toll of flooding on lives and politics
Khun Vichai’s imagination runs to gratutious and patronizing remarks about Thailand’s female PM – crossing her legs and hoping for the best – which might seem to indicate that he is quite (no extremely) sexist and finds he is incapable of coping with Thailand’s first elected female PM.
I know New Mandela is against repetitive ranting, unimaginative point-scoring and idle abuse but I am not sure Khun Vichai qualifies himself as anything more than this at present: well at least on this topic. His points made relating to LM and how people are treated are good points but here I am afraid he is wide of the mark.
Some might even argue Khun Vichai needs a good swift kick in the u=you nowheres…….
Evidence of racism in Malaysia?
Clarification:
4. HRP was not testifying to Tom Lantos but to the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission.
5. The data
One uses knowledge (theory, observations, etc) to make sense of data. For example – If 99% of the highest ranking positions in the public sector come from a particular race in a multicultural country – how would you interpret it.
Evidence of racism in Malaysia?
The last 3 comments allude to a level of bigotry and ignorance that has become a staple of Malaysians who have found the internet as a convenient tool to do what they otherwise do at coffee shops. And that is to wax lyrical about things they do not understand and in the process allow their latent prejudices and ignorance to come to the fore.
What is it about Najib Razak, Prime Ministers words that offend? The Malays do perceive themslves as a race of wariors like the Marathas or the Sikhs or the Rajputs see themselves as warriors. That of itself does not mean they are about to declare war on anyone although they can be forgiven for declaring war on bigotry and the encroachment by Chinese and some Indians on their rights recognized at international law to being the natives and therefore rightful owners and original inhabitants of Malaysia.
The right to respond to the threat to the Malay’s rightful dominance of the Malaysian archipelago is an inalienable right of the Malays both as recognized custodians of the territory they call Tanah Melayu and everything that is culturally Malay and as a majority in a democracy. whats your problem with that Neptunian? You may keep banging your head against a wall f someone else does not do it for you but you will change nothing except to perhaps create a greater deal of intolerance from the majority against people like you who are non Malay.
The dominance of the Chinese in trade and commerce began with the false premise that the Chinese somehow ar superior in business, having been firstly given special rights by the British who conned the Tengku into extending that right to them.
Joe Studwell one more amongst many others has documented the Chinese art of business prowess which includes strong arm tactics by their Triad thugs, corruption, prostitution, drug peddling then going legitimate by corrupting poorly paid public servants. It is endemic throughout Asia and wherever they go and is a legacy of the British and American anti communist bullwark they created using one form of Chinaman (the Kuomintang) against the other equally destructive Chinaman the Maoist.
Australia and India the US and Canada all practice a form of positive discrimination which Malaysia also practices. In India it is the OBC (Other Backward Castes) preferential treatment in education, business and reservation for jobs.
In Australia it is for mainly white women although they say it si for women, a discriminated class. It has endured for decades.In the Americas it is for the Afro Americans and American Indians and yes the white women in the name of womens rights.
The Malays must defend themselves against the encroachment of the likes of the Chinese using the Amah Ambiga Sreenivasan and the power of western lobbies like Hillary Clinton, the Australian government and the British Cheevning scholars as their Trojan horse to dominate the Malays.
If you believe in a democracy you must accept you have a right to express yourself Singaporeans and Chinese in China do not enjoy. You must also accept that the Malays in all their forms, orang Asli Kadazans and Dayaks or other have a right as a majority inspite of their internal differences to exercise over you. If you do not like it find a utopia where you will find the glories of an unfettered freedom where everything is equal and without blemish or human folly.
Evidence of racism in Malaysia?
Hi Ollie, #12.
I feel for you. I hope your better treated where-ever you are.
1. RPK’s website.
The convention is to compare apples with apples. RPK’s blog can be considered a socio-political blog. So, we can compare his blog with other media outlets that provide socio-political analysis. People visit Kim Kardashian’s website not to find out the truth about Malaysia but for things that I would not even bother to speculate.
So, if one wanted news on Malaysia – you will not go to the mainstream media but to the alternative websites and among the alternative websites, MT is tops.
2. While there is no censorship on the internet, people assume that it means anyone can say anything. This is not true. It does provide anonymity, if one chooses. But if one puts their money where their mouth is, and be brave and reveals oneself, its a different story. One is then liable for what is said. Rocky Bru found out recently when he posted in his blog that Rais Yatim raped his maid.
RPK has never tried to hide his identity.
3. If you read the statutory declaration and what he said on TV3 – there is no inconsistency. In his SD, he said, that he had been told by so-and-so that Rosmah Mansor was at the scene of the crime. He did not say that he saw or he knew that Rosmah Mansor was at the scene of the crime. It was definitely a mistake to speak to TV3 in my opinion, especially pre-recorded, knowing their reputation for spin. But the point is, what RPK put in the SD is no different from what he said on TV3.
Read HERE for RPK’s explanation.
4. I agree with you that a majority of Malaysians are stupid. Its also the same with Australia, the US, the UK, India, China..or anywhere. That’s the nature of human society.
However, its critical that we have the best 5% leading us – otherwise its disastrous. Democracy, is the best way to manage stupid people and get the best to lead – if done properly.
So, the US (not always – re George Bush Jr), Australia (heaven forbid Tony Abbot), etc..do get many (not all) of the best and brightest to lead their countries. Its not the case in Malaysia.
That needs to change.
Mallika Boonmetrakul: an appalling Thai Politician
@Andrew
>Cyber Warriors… launched by the Democrat Party.
Yes, but it was AV’s personal secretary who received the SMSs and reported it. I don’t think there was any team of snitches involved. Just the secretary, and those who arrested/prosecuted the old man. Were they Dem Party members/supporters? Perhaps. Or just people in the bureaucracy blindly/poorly following orders, as is the culture here.
Culturally, the Dems and the Cyber Warriors share very similar political ideals. But I do not believe the Cyber Warriors had anything to do with AhKong. I’m not entirely sure Mallika was even aware of AhKong until the news broke.
Mallika Boonmetrakul: an appalling Thai Politician
@Andrew
>Cyber Warriors… launched by the Democrat Party.
Yes, but the Cyber Warriors did not report AhKong. It was AV’s personal secretary who received the SMSs and reported it. And probably Dem Party members that followed through on it (no evidence to support this last claim).
Culturally, the Dems and the Cyber Warriors share very similar political ideals. But I do not believe the Cyber Warriors had anything to do with AhKong.
Mallika Boonmetrakul: an appalling Thai Politician
Roberto
“Ontological pluralism”, much like moral relativism, is attractive if you think history is an irrelevance.
Thailand’s “ontology” has been struggled over and forged through the application of power as much as anywhere else.
Just ask Pridi, Jit Phumisak or the 1000s who’ve died at the hands of the various juntas over the decades.
Even dominant Thai ontologies have, within national borders, been far less than monolithic. But the dominant one didn’t achieve that position by “winning arguments”. It did so down the barrel of a gun.
We’re not racists!
I think he’s an evil man. Bent on keeping his job rather than doing it.
NEVER Trust anyone whose first priority is self perpetuation. And dont ever expect them to be fair.
Lo class person.
Evidence of racism in Malaysia?
Greg,
These guyz are always like that. Whatever happens to them is ‘discrimination’,’racism’,’sidelining’ and ‘islamophobia’. If they persecutre others and other speak out, it is ‘blatant lies’,’misinterpretation’,’manipulation’ and ‘betrayal’.
Just like if a woman gets raped, she needs 4 MALE witnesses to prove the claim. If she can’t SHE is convicted for having sex with the rapist, and no witnesses are required for that. This is the culture. 🙂
Race-based ideology and Islam: The Malaysian enigma
I’ll say this much.
What UMNO had for it all this time was fear. And when that fear subsides…as it has and must, the residue that remains is hate.
I live in this country. Schools, jobs, housing, contracts, government projects, medical facilities et al, have preferential quotas for the MAJORITY of the people – The Malay Muslims, almost all of which use the Jew argument to suppress the rest. 50 years of self rule and they still have not been able to come out ahead. My government is Apartheid. No two ways about it. It preaches discrimination by race and religion. Notably…. 20% of the Christian minority… is responsible for all their ills. In the meantime, drug abuse, baby dumping and incest are almost entirely a Muslim hallmark.
Evidence of racism in Malaysia?
Hi smarts,
RPK has 10 mil hits so can be trusted? Kim Kardashian has 10 mil viewers, so I bet she must be trusted.
Tom Lantos died in 2008, if you googled you’d find out. Theres data in that ‘report’ from 2011.
Two-thirds of it is true, but typical Malaysians for trying to sensationalize something by affiliating it with supposed influential people who unfortunately are dead.
I’m Malaysian, and I am a victim of institutional discrimination, but with the stupidity I see from ALL Malaysians, not just those in power, it seems better to leave the country than try changing anything.
Race-based ideology and Islam: The Malaysian enigma
Danielle # 1
I totally agree with your assertation that the Malays are superior in Malaysia. I however have a hard time reconciling the “superior” label with the constant cries for help, assistances and govt crutches by the Malays.
Please explain to me, how a superior race would need all those extra “leg up” help? Should not a superior race be extending a “helping” hand to others instead?
In case you have a hard time understanding my question, let me illustrate.
Should a student “superior” in his or her studies be asking for a lower passing mark and extra tuition versus the “lesser” student, or should he / she be put on the same “grading table”? In fact should not the superior student be offering help to the “lesser” student?
Evidence of racism in Malaysia?
“We will not allow our people to be insulted. We will not back down by even an inch. We are warriors,” he said to cheers at Pertubuhan Kebajikan dan Dakwah Islamiah Malaysia’s (Pekida) gathering here before leading cries of “Hidup Melayu (long live the Malays)!”
That is the statement made by PM Najib in his address to PEKIDA.
Please tell me again.. which part of that reflects a moderate moslem? Which part of that is a speech to a “charity and welfare” organisation?
Exactly who is PM Najib going to war against? Who is he threatening with violence? AND who has been insulting the Malays?
Let me quote (sorry only generic quotation);
We Malays need special help from govt.
We Malays have to be taken care of, otherwise we cannot compete with the other races – especially the Chinese (Chinese Malaysian)
We Malays need.. special entry (lower grades) to inst of higher learning.
To me that is a broad insult to the Malays? Are the prople who are saying the above assuming the Malays are either physically challenged or mentally challenged.. to use “politically correct” terms
Mallika Boonmetrakul: an appalling Thai Politician
Roberto (37)
When one can’t make a proper argument for or against an issue, the best way is to put a hat on their opponents, rather than make a case for your beliefs, opinions, or position. So “liberals”, “nazis”, “commies”, are all rather reductionist, simplified labels that frankly doesn’t help move the discussion forward. So if your intention was to challenge the so-called monolithic “liberal fundamentalism” on this forum, you have only failed miserably to contribute to the discussions and frankly demonstrated your own “shallowness” regarding such important (yet publicly censored) issue as LM/112. If you were a true pluralist, you would only welcome this rare and few dissenting voice available in new mandala and few other selective sites, which is becoming more and more under attack by mainstream “cyber warriors”.
Thailand’s Fearlessness: Free Akong
No one should be pardoned. To pardon is to suggest an offense was committed, and none ever was. To suggest that a group of individuals is entitled to different rules or protections because of their birth is profoundly undemocratic; an offense against equality and rule of law.
But remember, LM has never been about protecting the monarchy. It has always been a tool to attack political opponents or polish a dictatorial regime’s image. Actually, the politicization of the monarchy has done more (by far) to damage the image of the monarch and promote republicanism than all the LM cases combined, so those bringing the spurious LM cases and using the imagery of the monarchy to advance their own political fortunes should, ironically, be goaled for LM.
Thailand’s Fearlessness: Free Akong
Is anyone else having difficulty reaching prachatai.com?
DNS servers at TOT and in the US seem unable to resolve prachatai.com or prachatai3.info.
Mallika Boonmetrakul: an appalling Thai Politician
Hi Charles,
Sorry, that was specifically ‘ontological pluralism’ I was referring to (off-hand, it’s a paradigm something along these lines, http://www.enotes.com/topic/Ontological_pluralism). Liberal pluralism is probably the most frequent reference to pluralism I’ve heard of, but it’s not the one to which I was referring.
Thanks,
R.
Thailand’s Fearlessness: Free Akong
Did HM King Bhumipol pardon Amphon Tangnoppakul, or not?
And what of all the others in prison due to the ‘enthusiasm’ of those who claim to be supporters of HM King Bhumipol? Pardoned, or not?
The only report I saw on the pardons was in the Bangkok Post. And it was, predictably, just an extension of the endless monologue vilifying Thaksin.
The truly vile Royalist Bangkok ‘elite’ have really put HM the King in a very tough position this time.
Evidence of racism in Malaysia?
I challenged RPK to establish the authenticity of that “mystery letter” he handed to Gobind Singh Deo to hand to the first inquiry into the death of Teoh Beng Hock. Deo Singh’s actions in handing up that document to court constituted an act of contempt. It was an unsigned document the provenance of which was in doubt and the object of which was to pervert the course of justice. It was later discovered to be a fraud. RPK fled after that letter and the article in my blog.
I was contacted by an individual from the AG’s office asking me to clarify the grounds for alleging contempt. I did in a separate advice to them after which someone I know and who RPK knows (a mutual acquaintance) emailed me that I was the subject of a poison campaign by members of the Malaysian Bar who were asked to attack me on any forum at every opportunity they got.
I wear that as a badge of honour.
Raja Petra Kamarudddin is a man who is without any sense of self respect or dignity. That applies to his followers as well. He does not get 10,000,000 hits. Far from it. The largest number of hits he received was 52,000 and that too the subject of repeat hits by his followers during an audit.
RPK and his followers do not realise that their every move is watched and monitored carefully. And thats not a bad thing. Because RPK and his followers have done nothing more than to justify the ISA for their menace to society.