For those who really care a bout the fate of Burmese POWs in Kachin battle field, it’s better them to go and open POW camp in Laiza. KIA would very welcome for that.
Since the beginning of the conflict started in early June 2011, KIA soldier Chang Ying was first POW killed by Burma Army after he was detained. In return, KIA delivered Burmese soldiers alive. On June 16, KIA released another six Burmese POWs in northern Shan State, where KIA’s batallion 4 headquartered. I do have a copy of POW released document with KIA seal on it. It’s jsut the KIA’s unilateral release accroding to their POW policy. So, which one is abiding the Geneva Convention’s treatement on POWs, KIA or Burma Army?
One more thing is that how to deal with those Burmese POWs who commit war crimes. Most of the Burmese solideres were ordered to rape, killed, burn, loot against the unarmed civillians. The most importanat issue is, do we really need to care about the fate of POWs who committed war crimes or the lives of innocent civillians who are always victims of Burma Army.
Remeber, the founders of Burma Army, including Aung San Suu Kyi’s father Gen. Aung San, were well trained by Fascist Japan. On the other hand, Kachin Rangers were tranied by U.S and allied forces during the World War II.
New Mandala readers following this discussion of Royal Projects will want to digest this 2008 account of the “success” of one such effort in northern Thailand.
Thank you for mentioning Doi Tung. I am not surprised that they price their products expensively. Coffee (when I am talking about coffee, I mean REAL coffee, not instant coffee!) and macadamia are expensive in Thailand, as they are deemed to be somewhat a ‘rare’ item (just like Thai durians can be super expensive in the West, because they have to import them). Thus I believe they are justified in pricing their products expensively.
The question is how many other projects are as successful as Doi Tung? Given how many Royal projects there are, at least more than half of them should be profitable. It amazes me that after almost fifty years of Royal Projects, most of them still need taxpayers’ money to inject to assist them. Taxpayers’ financial assistance should come at only exceptional circumstances, and ideally, the projects should be able to stand on their own most of the times. My point is this does not seem to be the situation with the vast majority of the Royal Projects.
And yes, I have yet to see the figures of how much return these projects actually yield. I guess the figure won’t be that impressive. If they are so impressive, the elites should declare those figures long time ago already.
“takes about 10 to 15 minutes per ball” / “10.000 balls produced”
that is 2500 hours volunteering. hope there are still enough volunteers when help is needed to clean up and rebuild but i’m, afraid thats a bit more uncomfortable work than making balls in airconditioned shoppingmalls.
sorry but i don’t believe that bullcrap with the EM balls. if it’s not proven to work, then it doesn’t. thats how science works. just make some tests already, it’s pretty easy thing to do and should only take a few days to see results. not that the flood started yesterday. just another version of the thousands of tugboats.
I was interested to note in the paper from Malaysia the comment that 6 months after application of EM a sludge filled river had a bottom looking like sand. This would be a worry for the folk here in Thailand who make money from river & canal dredging. Most towns here have stinking drains ( the national standard is the non-draining rectangular profile variety, unlike the U shaped drains I have seen in Malaysia).
Since EM has been around here for a decade, why aren’t municipal officials using it? Are the commissions they receive from dredging just too great?
When I applied Thai visa around late 1990s, at royal
Thai embassy, I met some men who looked like Bengalis
or South Asian stocks who were applying Thai visa with
Burmese passports. The visa staff from the Thai embassy
asked them how is your boss and why need so many visas
but it made me feel weird as those lads cannot speak our
language Burmese. And also around that time I met a boy
buying postage stamps and he was buying stamps with sign
language. Anyone grew up in downtown Rangoon know
that all “chewing beetle” and small grocery store keepers
came from Bangladesh. Or those who sell Kima Prata or
BBQ came from Bangladeshi. We ignore them as we think
it is ok as long as they just dont screw us, we dont do any.
And a friend who live in the other side of Rangoon, called
Dala or Ton Tay even told me that he met a Bangladeshi
student who can played guitar very well. So that was it.
We, Burmese, know more affluent Bangladeshis are trying
to go to Malaysia via Burma as we are land bridge between
Bangladeshi and Thailand. And we know poor Bangladeshis
are paying 10 kyats (50 cents) for each head to Burmese
immigration officers and staff who are assigned in Arakan.
We did not care as Burmese are tolerant folks and we don’t
care much. But now those guys, illegal immigrants went too
far, they are not only sneaking into my country but trying
to snatch it from my people. That made me upset and alert.
If any of those aliens or useful idiots working for them think
we are racists then go and buy a mirror and see yourselves.
We have been taking it too long without complaining and it
is our right to defend our land as any Brit or Frenchman or
German or Japanese will do so. Coming in and making a living
is fine, marrying our women is fine as long as they do not rape
or force convert our women, we do not care. But now we are
pushed too far. It is time to show middle finger to BBC, UK.
Those cunning, manipulative Brits are alike high class whores,
to sell billions of arms to their valued clients like Saudi Arabia
they tried to appease them at our expense. Shame on you BBC.
Am I the only one who thinks, from internal evidence, that Jack Roth is simply making this up? I’m certainly not suggesting there isn’t much reverence for the monarch – there is.But this to me looks like an American educated Thai spinning a line.
Excellent comments by Achara Ashayagachat and very interesting ones by Gee (did your partner collect her winnings from the above-ground lottery or the underground lottery?: of course you don’t have to answer this one) and Arthursen but a pretty mean-spirited comment from Vichai N although this does might well represent the views of those who did not vote for the current government in the recent elections anyway.
None of my partner’s real estate has yet been affected butt hat does not actually make her feel any better. As she argues when she was young sdhe loved it when it flooded in the countryside: one could catch a lot of fish (and even the odd snake) and enjoy swimming in the relatively clean floodwaters. However, like others who have a rural experience she recognizes that living in urbanized Bangkok and its surrounds is quite different to living in rural Thailand.
One of the worst impacts of the current flooding (apart of course from farmers in rural areas who may have lost most of their wet season rice crop) is the loss of employment for poorer people, whether they live in Bangkok or have migrated on a temporary basis (even worse for “legal” and “illegal” migrant workers from neighboring countries). Some of these affected places of employment (especially in the industrial estates) might not open before early next year (to illustrate the point we placed an order for a new car that we might have to wait up to nine months before delivery: minor inconvenience for us I know). Moreover, it is not just lower income workers that are being affected but also increasiongly middle-income workers.
However, while Bangkok or at least portions of Bangkok flood there are equally serious problems in neighboring Cambodia where nearly all of the damage has occurred in rural areas (actually most of the people who have lost their lives in Thailand have been living in rural areas) but there has been litte coverage of the Cambodian floods (also problems in Mekong Delta but Vietnamese authorities have proved quite adept at mitigating the worst impacts).
I guess for people who have been directly affected by the flooding arguments as to who are or should be held responsible have taken back seat although I would also guess when the waters have subsided this state-of-affairs may not prevail.
[…] more on this subject, I suggest the New Mandala blog, which has has some charts showing that rainfall throughout Thailand this year was, indeed, much heavier than […]
I am a Muslim living in Rathaedaung, Arakan since I was born. My parents have always lived here. I have no idea why other Muslims especially those in foreign countries are claiming themselves as Rohingya. This create more hatred between Arakanese and Muslims. As they try to legitimize the name, the government suppress us more. We are victimized between the Rohingya-creating people and Burmese government.
My family has lived within Arakanese community, and we have never had any problems with them.
Sometimes I do expect that I will have better freedom of travel. If all Muslims agree to cease creating the name Rohingya and live together under law, we will definitely be granted citizenship with wider freedom.
Brother Muslims, I really wish you to stop fighting for a name risking freedoms of Muslims in Arakan, and instead take part in making the Mulism lives better.
I am not surprised that Neptunian (#8) would now reinject ‘yellow shirt intent on drowning Yingluck’ posturing. A Siam Voices (Asian Correspondent) commentator made a similar point about the Democrat Party (BKK governor) intentions to drown Pathum Thani RED shirts by blocking the monster floods that would otherwise drown Bangkok city.
But if Neptunian would insist that ‘ineptitude’ is indeed a Red Shirt trait and thus excusable in the person of political novice Yingluck, I really should NOT be complaining, eh?
Doi Tung should be very successful, as their products are ridiculously overpriced, and not that great, the coffee grown in Chiang Dao and sold for less than half of their price in Chiang Mai is much better, and their Macadamia nuts are bland when compared to Mona Loa from Hawaii
C7. The people will answer that question at the next election and we can rest assured the Thai media will let nobody forget.
The question is though will anybody even raise changing the bunch of dysfunctional bureaucratic entities that couldnt work with each to route waters, couldnt release dammed water when needed, couldnt make a plan etc. The one lesson from this is that Thailand needs a single national water management body that overrides all local control in the interests of the country and one that can function rather than go all neutral and impotent at times of election and governmental change. That is a lot harder and will no doubt take a lot lot longer than waiting for the people to judge the current government in 3.5 years of even the Bangkok governor in a shorter time.
This flood has been a tragedy and was unavoidable but some of the excesses could have been avoided if the bureaucrats who of one would assume are some type of expert if working in that department had made a few decisions. Politicians we may blame and it goes with the job but I doubt there is anyone in the current parliament with any real knowledge of water management. Where by the way is the agriculture minister who I assume the RID comes under? CTP this government and the last one so the one ministry where there should also have been some consistency in management. Then again CTP have never ever been known to take a ministry because they had some expertise or desire to serve, but rather for other reasons one lesser one of which was earlier a bone of contention after their powerbroker lectured other politicians on learning how to protect their fiefdoms from flooding at lesser leaders fiefdoms expense.
@Peter
No one says here about purity, it is you who is trying to mislead others. Try another time, another place. That
child’s tricks do not work here.
@Sia
BBC is not a saint, 3M is a cheap amount to influence 55 Millions people. Are you a baby who was born yesterday or are you that clueless?
What BBC did is wrong. Bangladeshis and Pakistanis are majority in some small satellite towns of cities in UK but do you see them representing as a race? But we do only see Scotland, Wales, England and Ireland. This is as if Bangladeshi British are saying we arrived Birmingham earlier than Vikings (cousins of Saxons of Anglo-Saxons) nor even earlier than Romans or even earlier than Briton natives. This is what it is now and using Rohingya as a word is insulting for Burmese as there is no such word as Rohingya in Burmese language till
some of those history rewriters fabricated a history that a
dozen of Arabs arrived to Burmese shores after ship wreck
3000 years ago (that rage my blood pressure). Our suckerer politicians like late prime minister U Nu gave in for their vote banks as in those days one did not need proof of citizenship
to vote and so local politicians grouped their fellow illegal immigrants in villages in their electrates. What will be bad
is that journalists will start referring BBC page as a reliable reference. That is why it is important that BBC must amend
their mistake. Burmese do not need BBC. They can use that
3 Millions pounds as toilet papers.
Doi Tung seems like one successful Royal project, and I was wondering if anyone can provide statistics on their financials. Their coffee and macadamia nuts are great, and there are many Doi Tung retail outlets, so perhaps they are one example of a successful project. Does anyone know?
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First of all I would like to salute Anna Jones once again and I would remember her all of my life as Rohingya Princess who have done nothing wrong and those Insult to her by those evil tribes are nothing just a proof haterd in them for other human being .
I am a Rohingya and as such I have all rights to defend Rohingya Interest in Arakan and Burma , We still have around 800 ooo Rohingyas in Arakan these days , whose status are unknown and how they are living there in Arakan -Burma you can imagine yourself by reading from those educated narrow minded and racists people in Burma . Now you can imagine much harted and discrimination the small Rohingya ethnic facing in Myanmar .
Since the issue here also related to Rohingyas , I would like you to see how these anti Rohingya people jumping from one point to another just hide the truth and injustice done to Rohinyas.
Now let us see what they said about Rohingyas
1. They said Rohingyas are illegal immigrants from Bangladesh .
I tell you Rohingyas are there even before independence of Burma and later Bangladesh that means Rohingya are citizen of Burma and not like a temporary illigal immigrant from current Bangladesh .
2. They said Rohingyas do not deserve Burmese Citizenship as they can not speak Burmese.
Rohingyas have Citizenship of Burma Union since Independence a few of them even served as Burmese Millitary and my own father was a government school teacher at Moung Daw , Arakan – Burma .
Rohingya Citizenship denied only since 1982 by Ne Win illegal dictatorship government.
So why after all these days people here inventing theories that those who do not speak Burmese can not be a Burmese at the same time they discriminate and do not let them to travel from one town to another without a visa or a permit even just for study purpose.
Again not all Ethnic races of Myanmar speak Burmese and they have their own culture and religion such as Hindu, Christain , Muslims and others .
Ethinic People living with Thai Borders also speak similar Thais, should Burmese People also blame them for not speak Burmese or this is only apply to Rohingya only ?
Eventhogh Rohingyas are not considered as Burmese Citizens yet they have participated in all election and recently one Rohingya MP is in jail in Burma , he is also considered as Political prisoner , his name is U Kyu Min .
Rakhine terms were unknown even during British Rule they have invented this term recently and they have been Known as Magh even by British and European historian . They changed the word Magh because they have been well known terrorist who used to target British soldier and loot from them and they have been branded as Magh looters since then that is why they changed to Rakhine and I have no peoblem for that.
One of the writer here claimed that there were one million Maghs in Bangladesh and know only 500 000 living there and I ask you where are they know ? Have they traveled to Europe or they just enterd Burma Union illegaly and now claim Myanmar Citizen serving as police and Boarder gaurd and loot from poor Rohingyas ?
How such irrispensible incident happen ? is it acceptable by other races of Myanmar and specialy to those Burmese race who always invent Racists Therories here? It is acceptable to them because at a time they expel Rohingyas they are bringing Maghs Buddhist just to change the demoghraphy of Arakan and to show the world there are no Rohingyas in Burma.
The problem with the campaigners is that they don’t know that BBC will never apologize. Why should they? They didn’t do anything wrong. They didn’t even claim that the pic represents ethnic groups in Myanmar in the first place. If they did, Burmese should protest notable absence of Bamar (the dominant race) rather than the absence of Rakhine. BBC added Rohingya simply because they reside in Burma, not because of they are one of the ethnic groups of Burma.
The campaign against BBC is morally wrong. BBC spent over three millions of dollar annually to broadcast its Burmese language programs. No doubt that they haven’t made any profit (expect its online version). Most Burmese, including myself, heavily relied on BBC as the sole escape route from government propaganda during the years of censorship. I am surprised that they turn against BBC just because of “misunderstanding” from their part.
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Prisoners in Burma’s Kachin war
For those who really care a bout the fate of Burmese POWs in Kachin battle field, it’s better them to go and open POW camp in Laiza. KIA would very welcome for that.
Since the beginning of the conflict started in early June 2011, KIA soldier Chang Ying was first POW killed by Burma Army after he was detained. In return, KIA delivered Burmese soldiers alive. On June 16, KIA released another six Burmese POWs in northern Shan State, where KIA’s batallion 4 headquartered. I do have a copy of POW released document with KIA seal on it. It’s jsut the KIA’s unilateral release accroding to their POW policy. So, which one is abiding the Geneva Convention’s treatement on POWs, KIA or Burma Army?
One more thing is that how to deal with those Burmese POWs who commit war crimes. Most of the Burmese solideres were ordered to rape, killed, burn, loot against the unarmed civillians. The most importanat issue is, do we really need to care about the fate of POWs who committed war crimes or the lives of innocent civillians who are always victims of Burma Army.
Remeber, the founders of Burma Army, including Aung San Suu Kyi’s father Gen. Aung San, were well trained by Fascist Japan. On the other hand, Kachin Rangers were tranied by U.S and allied forces during the World War II.
Royal politics and the floods
New Mandala readers following this discussion of Royal Projects will want to digest this 2008 account of the “success” of one such effort in northern Thailand.
Best wishes to all,
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Royal politics and the floods
Thank you for mentioning Doi Tung. I am not surprised that they price their products expensively. Coffee (when I am talking about coffee, I mean REAL coffee, not instant coffee!) and macadamia are expensive in Thailand, as they are deemed to be somewhat a ‘rare’ item (just like Thai durians can be super expensive in the West, because they have to import them). Thus I believe they are justified in pricing their products expensively.
The question is how many other projects are as successful as Doi Tung? Given how many Royal projects there are, at least more than half of them should be profitable. It amazes me that after almost fifty years of Royal Projects, most of them still need taxpayers’ money to inject to assist them. Taxpayers’ financial assistance should come at only exceptional circumstances, and ideally, the projects should be able to stand on their own most of the times. My point is this does not seem to be the situation with the vast majority of the Royal Projects.
And yes, I have yet to see the figures of how much return these projects actually yield. I guess the figure won’t be that impressive. If they are so impressive, the elites should declare those figures long time ago already.
EM balls – a flood hoax?
http://blogs.wsj.com/searealtime/2011/11/07/thai-flood-decontamination-balls-are-great-if-they-work/?mod=wsj_share_twitter
“takes about 10 to 15 minutes per ball” / “10.000 balls produced”
that is 2500 hours volunteering. hope there are still enough volunteers when help is needed to clean up and rebuild but i’m, afraid thats a bit more uncomfortable work than making balls in airconditioned shoppingmalls.
sorry but i don’t believe that bullcrap with the EM balls. if it’s not proven to work, then it doesn’t. thats how science works. just make some tests already, it’s pretty easy thing to do and should only take a few days to see results. not that the flood started yesterday. just another version of the thousands of tugboats.
BBC under fire on Rohingyas
Sia
Can BBC add rohingya as burmese ethnic? If so,on what ground? Can BBC call BROUK as british rohingya organization UK?
Anna (or Ano) Jones got her price already – a rohingya calls her as rohingya princess – transforming her into rohingyas’ bedfellow!
Thanks
EM balls – a flood hoax?
I was interested to note in the paper from Malaysia the comment that 6 months after application of EM a sludge filled river had a bottom looking like sand. This would be a worry for the folk here in Thailand who make money from river & canal dredging. Most towns here have stinking drains ( the national standard is the non-draining rectangular profile variety, unlike the U shaped drains I have seen in Malaysia).
Since EM has been around here for a decade, why aren’t municipal officials using it? Are the commissions they receive from dredging just too great?
BBC under fire on Rohingyas
Muhhamad,
Hear, hear!
BBC under fire on Rohingyas
When I applied Thai visa around late 1990s, at royal
Thai embassy, I met some men who looked like Bengalis
or South Asian stocks who were applying Thai visa with
Burmese passports. The visa staff from the Thai embassy
asked them how is your boss and why need so many visas
but it made me feel weird as those lads cannot speak our
language Burmese. And also around that time I met a boy
buying postage stamps and he was buying stamps with sign
language. Anyone grew up in downtown Rangoon know
that all “chewing beetle” and small grocery store keepers
came from Bangladesh. Or those who sell Kima Prata or
BBQ came from Bangladeshi. We ignore them as we think
it is ok as long as they just dont screw us, we dont do any.
And a friend who live in the other side of Rangoon, called
Dala or Ton Tay even told me that he met a Bangladeshi
student who can played guitar very well. So that was it.
We, Burmese, know more affluent Bangladeshis are trying
to go to Malaysia via Burma as we are land bridge between
Bangladeshi and Thailand. And we know poor Bangladeshis
are paying 10 kyats (50 cents) for each head to Burmese
immigration officers and staff who are assigned in Arakan.
We did not care as Burmese are tolerant folks and we don’t
care much. But now those guys, illegal immigrants went too
far, they are not only sneaking into my country but trying
to snatch it from my people. That made me upset and alert.
If any of those aliens or useful idiots working for them think
we are racists then go and buy a mirror and see yourselves.
We have been taking it too long without complaining and it
is our right to defend our land as any Brit or Frenchman or
German or Japanese will do so. Coming in and making a living
is fine, marrying our women is fine as long as they do not rape
or force convert our women, we do not care. But now we are
pushed too far. It is time to show middle finger to BBC, UK.
Those cunning, manipulative Brits are alike high class whores,
to sell billions of arms to their valued clients like Saudi Arabia
they tried to appease them at our expense. Shame on you BBC.
Speculation on the popularity of the Thai monarchy
Am I the only one who thinks, from internal evidence, that Jack Roth is simply making this up? I’m certainly not suggesting there isn’t much reverence for the monarch – there is.But this to me looks like an American educated Thai spinning a line.
The toll of flooding on lives and politics
Excellent comments by Achara Ashayagachat and very interesting ones by Gee (did your partner collect her winnings from the above-ground lottery or the underground lottery?: of course you don’t have to answer this one) and Arthursen but a pretty mean-spirited comment from Vichai N although this does might well represent the views of those who did not vote for the current government in the recent elections anyway.
None of my partner’s real estate has yet been affected butt hat does not actually make her feel any better. As she argues when she was young sdhe loved it when it flooded in the countryside: one could catch a lot of fish (and even the odd snake) and enjoy swimming in the relatively clean floodwaters. However, like others who have a rural experience she recognizes that living in urbanized Bangkok and its surrounds is quite different to living in rural Thailand.
One of the worst impacts of the current flooding (apart of course from farmers in rural areas who may have lost most of their wet season rice crop) is the loss of employment for poorer people, whether they live in Bangkok or have migrated on a temporary basis (even worse for “legal” and “illegal” migrant workers from neighboring countries). Some of these affected places of employment (especially in the industrial estates) might not open before early next year (to illustrate the point we placed an order for a new car that we might have to wait up to nine months before delivery: minor inconvenience for us I know). Moreover, it is not just lower income workers that are being affected but also increasiongly middle-income workers.
However, while Bangkok or at least portions of Bangkok flood there are equally serious problems in neighboring Cambodia where nearly all of the damage has occurred in rural areas (actually most of the people who have lost their lives in Thailand have been living in rural areas) but there has been litte coverage of the Cambodian floods (also problems in Mekong Delta but Vietnamese authorities have proved quite adept at mitigating the worst impacts).
I guess for people who have been directly affected by the flooding arguments as to who are or should be held responsible have taken back seat although I would also guess when the waters have subsided this state-of-affairs may not prevail.
More data on 2011 rainfall
[…] more on this subject, I suggest the New Mandala blog, which has has some charts showing that rainfall throughout Thailand this year was, indeed, much heavier than […]
BBC under fire on Rohingyas
I am a Muslim living in Rathaedaung, Arakan since I was born. My parents have always lived here. I have no idea why other Muslims especially those in foreign countries are claiming themselves as Rohingya. This create more hatred between Arakanese and Muslims. As they try to legitimize the name, the government suppress us more. We are victimized between the Rohingya-creating people and Burmese government.
My family has lived within Arakanese community, and we have never had any problems with them.
Sometimes I do expect that I will have better freedom of travel. If all Muslims agree to cease creating the name Rohingya and live together under law, we will definitely be granted citizenship with wider freedom.
Brother Muslims, I really wish you to stop fighting for a name risking freedoms of Muslims in Arakan, and instead take part in making the Mulism lives better.
The toll of flooding on lives and politics
I am not surprised that Neptunian (#8) would now reinject ‘yellow shirt intent on drowning Yingluck’ posturing. A Siam Voices (Asian Correspondent) commentator made a similar point about the Democrat Party (BKK governor) intentions to drown Pathum Thani RED shirts by blocking the monster floods that would otherwise drown Bangkok city.
But if Neptunian would insist that ‘ineptitude’ is indeed a Red Shirt trait and thus excusable in the person of political novice Yingluck, I really should NOT be complaining, eh?
Royal politics and the floods
Doi Tung should be very successful, as their products are ridiculously overpriced, and not that great, the coffee grown in Chiang Dao and sold for less than half of their price in Chiang Mai is much better, and their Macadamia nuts are bland when compared to Mona Loa from Hawaii
The toll of flooding on lives and politics
C7. The people will answer that question at the next election and we can rest assured the Thai media will let nobody forget.
The question is though will anybody even raise changing the bunch of dysfunctional bureaucratic entities that couldnt work with each to route waters, couldnt release dammed water when needed, couldnt make a plan etc. The one lesson from this is that Thailand needs a single national water management body that overrides all local control in the interests of the country and one that can function rather than go all neutral and impotent at times of election and governmental change. That is a lot harder and will no doubt take a lot lot longer than waiting for the people to judge the current government in 3.5 years of even the Bangkok governor in a shorter time.
This flood has been a tragedy and was unavoidable but some of the excesses could have been avoided if the bureaucrats who of one would assume are some type of expert if working in that department had made a few decisions. Politicians we may blame and it goes with the job but I doubt there is anyone in the current parliament with any real knowledge of water management. Where by the way is the agriculture minister who I assume the RID comes under? CTP this government and the last one so the one ministry where there should also have been some consistency in management. Then again CTP have never ever been known to take a ministry because they had some expertise or desire to serve, but rather for other reasons one lesser one of which was earlier a bone of contention after their powerbroker lectured other politicians on learning how to protect their fiefdoms from flooding at lesser leaders fiefdoms expense.
BBC under fire on Rohingyas
@Peter
No one says here about purity, it is you who is trying to mislead others. Try another time, another place. That
child’s tricks do not work here.
@Sia
BBC is not a saint, 3M is a cheap amount to influence 55 Millions people. Are you a baby who was born yesterday or are you that clueless?
What BBC did is wrong. Bangladeshis and Pakistanis are majority in some small satellite towns of cities in UK but do you see them representing as a race? But we do only see Scotland, Wales, England and Ireland. This is as if Bangladeshi British are saying we arrived Birmingham earlier than Vikings (cousins of Saxons of Anglo-Saxons) nor even earlier than Romans or even earlier than Briton natives. This is what it is now and using Rohingya as a word is insulting for Burmese as there is no such word as Rohingya in Burmese language till
some of those history rewriters fabricated a history that a
dozen of Arabs arrived to Burmese shores after ship wreck
3000 years ago (that rage my blood pressure). Our suckerer politicians like late prime minister U Nu gave in for their vote banks as in those days one did not need proof of citizenship
to vote and so local politicians grouped their fellow illegal immigrants in villages in their electrates. What will be bad
is that journalists will start referring BBC page as a reliable reference. That is why it is important that BBC must amend
their mistake. Burmese do not need BBC. They can use that
3 Millions pounds as toilet papers.
Royal politics and the floods
Doi Tung seems like one successful Royal project, and I was wondering if anyone can provide statistics on their financials. Their coffee and macadamia nuts are great, and there are many Doi Tung retail outlets, so perhaps they are one example of a successful project. Does anyone know?
Corruption in Malaysia and Singapore
[…] Never! The typical Singaporean will report you to the police and you will have to face the music just for offering the bribe. Learn more FInd out more about corruption standards […]
BBC under fire on Rohingyas
First of all I would like to salute Anna Jones once again and I would remember her all of my life as Rohingya Princess who have done nothing wrong and those Insult to her by those evil tribes are nothing just a proof haterd in them for other human being .
I am a Rohingya and as such I have all rights to defend Rohingya Interest in Arakan and Burma , We still have around 800 ooo Rohingyas in Arakan these days , whose status are unknown and how they are living there in Arakan -Burma you can imagine yourself by reading from those educated narrow minded and racists people in Burma . Now you can imagine much harted and discrimination the small Rohingya ethnic facing in Myanmar .
Since the issue here also related to Rohingyas , I would like you to see how these anti Rohingya people jumping from one point to another just hide the truth and injustice done to Rohinyas.
Now let us see what they said about Rohingyas
1. They said Rohingyas are illegal immigrants from Bangladesh .
I tell you Rohingyas are there even before independence of Burma and later Bangladesh that means Rohingya are citizen of Burma and not like a temporary illigal immigrant from current Bangladesh .
2. They said Rohingyas do not deserve Burmese Citizenship as they can not speak Burmese.
Rohingyas have Citizenship of Burma Union since Independence a few of them even served as Burmese Millitary and my own father was a government school teacher at Moung Daw , Arakan – Burma .
Rohingya Citizenship denied only since 1982 by Ne Win illegal dictatorship government.
So why after all these days people here inventing theories that those who do not speak Burmese can not be a Burmese at the same time they discriminate and do not let them to travel from one town to another without a visa or a permit even just for study purpose.
Again not all Ethnic races of Myanmar speak Burmese and they have their own culture and religion such as Hindu, Christain , Muslims and others .
Ethinic People living with Thai Borders also speak similar Thais, should Burmese People also blame them for not speak Burmese or this is only apply to Rohingya only ?
Eventhogh Rohingyas are not considered as Burmese Citizens yet they have participated in all election and recently one Rohingya MP is in jail in Burma , he is also considered as Political prisoner , his name is U Kyu Min .
Rakhine terms were unknown even during British Rule they have invented this term recently and they have been Known as Magh even by British and European historian . They changed the word Magh because they have been well known terrorist who used to target British soldier and loot from them and they have been branded as Magh looters since then that is why they changed to Rakhine and I have no peoblem for that.
One of the writer here claimed that there were one million Maghs in Bangladesh and know only 500 000 living there and I ask you where are they know ? Have they traveled to Europe or they just enterd Burma Union illegaly and now claim Myanmar Citizen serving as police and Boarder gaurd and loot from poor Rohingyas ?
How such irrispensible incident happen ? is it acceptable by other races of Myanmar and specialy to those Burmese race who always invent Racists Therories here? It is acceptable to them because at a time they expel Rohingyas they are bringing Maghs Buddhist just to change the demoghraphy of Arakan and to show the world there are no Rohingyas in Burma.
I will Come back soon to write more
Best wishes
Rahmat
BBC under fire on Rohingyas
The problem with the campaigners is that they don’t know that BBC will never apologize. Why should they? They didn’t do anything wrong. They didn’t even claim that the pic represents ethnic groups in Myanmar in the first place. If they did, Burmese should protest notable absence of Bamar (the dominant race) rather than the absence of Rakhine. BBC added Rohingya simply because they reside in Burma, not because of they are one of the ethnic groups of Burma.
The campaign against BBC is morally wrong. BBC spent over three millions of dollar annually to broadcast its Burmese language programs. No doubt that they haven’t made any profit (expect its online version). Most Burmese, including myself, heavily relied on BBC as the sole escape route from government propaganda during the years of censorship. I am surprised that they turn against BBC just because of “misunderstanding” from their part.