Chuwit seems to overwhelm with his exit-poll result, while Bhumjaithai is reported to have canceled its press conference after the exit-poll’s result has come out.
History of accuracy of exit polls–Against the official result of the 2007 election: PT 233, DP 165…major exit polls’ estimations were:
– Suan Dusit Poll: PT 256, DP 162
– ABAC Poll: PT 202, DP 146
So long to Abhisit . A pathetic delusional buffoon who will go down in history as the butcher of Bangkok and an absolute disgrace to all his fellow Oxford alumni .
The refusal of people wearing red-shirt into the ballots is reported to be for red shirts with symbols or numbers associated to Phue Thai Party or UDD. However, red shirts with other logos such as Manchester United are allowed!
I have neither excused nor attacked what you perceive as homophobic attacks (and i will not go into a discussion what may be a homophobic attack, and what is just poking into perceived weakpoints of one’s opponent in not very PC ways of expression).
I have attacked the use of building strawmen in order to score points. The anti-gay march protest by CM51 has happened (and that one i do consider quite clearly homophobic), but i have pointed out that this is does not make the Red Shirt movement a homophobic movement, especially because this march was at the time criticized widely under Red Shirts (unfortunately not publicly on stages though), as well as CM51 is also under Red Shirts quite disputed as well.
Given Thai society’s well known and widespread fluidity in gender identification and orientation i would say that it is quite difficult, if not impossible, for any movement here to be homophobic.
Les Abbey: Abhisit & backers of the Democrat Party/Newin/Military alliance most likely chose the election for this time based on an assumption that, while the economy could still go lower, the PT Party was already at its lowest point, in disarray with many banned or in jail, and with no recognized leader at the time – it will be interesting if that ‘gamble’ pays off today (and even more interesting, what contingency plans they have made?)
Thanks to all for responding to my comment about the Gay Pride march. I made this to illustrate the need to engage with the Red Shirts. I think most of us need not a “complete education”, a rather silly notion, but judging from his comments about Chuan 2 as Nick clearly has had, a “left education” and if we need it so do people in Thailand who have had a thoroughly McCarthyite schooling. So I think Ji’s advice is spot on.
On the other matter I addressed, I would value some feedback, namely how to disarm the military.
Great election constituency map at KhiKwai’s (Federico Ferrara) blog site. It shows very graphically the party-by-party spread of Thai Rath’s recent prediction of results for just about every constituency. As he says, useful to compare the accuracy of the predictions with actual results as they come in.
There will be challenges as in some polling station applies the law of double standards, people from voting in red shirt are blocked while those that come in yellow shirt are accepted.
Sorry, I thought it was obvious. So to explain. Those who attacked the HRW report for being balanced. Their argument was that in order to achieve balance HRW concocted undeserved criticisms of the UDD and Thaksin.
You can find this in the comments here on New Mandala or if you like go to the Andrew Spooner article at the link below.
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Thai Election: Updates
Chuwit announced he will certainly be the opposition, no negotiation whatsoever!
Thai election: Where to begin?
Chuwit seems to overwhelm with his exit-poll result, while Bhumjaithai is reported to have canceled its press conference after the exit-poll’s result has come out.
Thai election: Where to begin?
Chuwit’s party has got 4 seats according to ABAC Poll!!
Thai election: Where to begin?
History of accuracy of exit polls–Against the official result of the 2007 election: PT 233, DP 165…major exit polls’ estimations were:
– Suan Dusit Poll: PT 256, DP 162
– ABAC Poll: PT 202, DP 146
Thai election: Where to begin?
So long to Abhisit . A pathetic delusional buffoon who will go down in history as the butcher of Bangkok and an absolute disgrace to all his fellow Oxford alumni .
Thai election: Where to begin?
Exit Poll: ABAC Poll–PT 299, DP 132, Phumjai Thai 28, ChatPhattana Phuephaendin 14, Chatthai Phattana 12 etc..
Thai election: Where to begin?
From the looks of the exit polls I guess those of us that live here are going to suffer under that Chinese curse of ‘living in interesting times’. 🙂
Thai election: Where to begin?
Exit poll: Suan Dusit: Pheu thai 313 Dem 152/ Sri Sri Pathum PT 290: 140 DEM/ AbAC PT 299 :132 DEM
Thai election: Where to begin?
ABAC’s ExitPoll: Phue Thai 116 Democrat 1 Phumjai Thai 9 http://twitter.com/#!/thaielection
July 3: Thailand’s crucial test
“Common story today, another voter cannot find their name on the list.”
http://twitpic.com/5khycv
Thai election: Where to begin?
The refusal of people wearing red-shirt into the ballots is reported to be for red shirts with symbols or numbers associated to Phue Thai Party or UDD. However, red shirts with other logos such as Manchester United are allowed!
Andrew Marshall’s Thai Story
“SteveCM”:
Being PC has never been one of my strengths 😉
“LesAbbey”:
I have neither excused nor attacked what you perceive as homophobic attacks (and i will not go into a discussion what may be a homophobic attack, and what is just poking into perceived weakpoints of one’s opponent in not very PC ways of expression).
I have attacked the use of building strawmen in order to score points. The anti-gay march protest by CM51 has happened (and that one i do consider quite clearly homophobic), but i have pointed out that this is does not make the Red Shirt movement a homophobic movement, especially because this march was at the time criticized widely under Red Shirts (unfortunately not publicly on stages though), as well as CM51 is also under Red Shirts quite disputed as well.
Given Thai society’s well known and widespread fluidity in gender identification and orientation i would say that it is quite difficult, if not impossible, for any movement here to be homophobic.
Thai election: Where to begin?
It is your right to be skeptical, but it’s the rumors and as stated here, there is no smoke without fire.
July 3: Thailand’s crucial test
Les Abbey: Abhisit & backers of the Democrat Party/Newin/Military alliance most likely chose the election for this time based on an assumption that, while the economy could still go lower, the PT Party was already at its lowest point, in disarray with many banned or in jail, and with no recognized leader at the time – it will be interesting if that ‘gamble’ pays off today (and even more interesting, what contingency plans they have made?)
Andrew Marshall’s Thai Story
Thanks to all for responding to my comment about the Gay Pride march. I made this to illustrate the need to engage with the Red Shirts. I think most of us need not a “complete education”, a rather silly notion, but judging from his comments about Chuan 2 as Nick clearly has had, a “left education” and if we need it so do people in Thailand who have had a thoroughly McCarthyite schooling. So I think Ji’s advice is spot on.
On the other matter I addressed, I would value some feedback, namely how to disarm the military.
July 3: Thailand’s crucial test
Great election constituency map at KhiKwai’s (Federico Ferrara) blog site. It shows very graphically the party-by-party spread of Thai Rath’s recent prediction of results for just about every constituency. As he says, useful to compare the accuracy of the predictions with actual results as they come in.
http://khikwai.com/blog/2011/07/03/election2011/
He’ll be updating it as things progress.
Thai election: Where to begin?
Reports of red-shirted voters being refused circulated on twitter but were then retracted. Does anyone have any evidence. I am skeptical. AW
Thai election: Where to begin?
There will be challenges as in some polling station applies the law of double standards, people from voting in red shirt are blocked while those that come in yellow shirt are accepted.
July 3: Thailand’s crucial test
SteveCM – 13
It’s a “bad word” to whom, exactly?
Sorry, I thought it was obvious. So to explain. Those who attacked the HRW report for being balanced. Their argument was that in order to achieve balance HRW concocted undeserved criticisms of the UDD and Thaksin.
You can find this in the comments here on New Mandala or if you like go to the Andrew Spooner article at the link below.
http://asiancorrespondent.com/53896/human-rights-watch-and-%E2%80%9Cconstructed-balance%E2%80%9D/
So Steve, not straw men, but real contributors.
Andrew Marshall’s Thai Story
Laeh Hoyt – 163
Thank you, I didn’t know that. Where was this done? In the press or at PAD rallies?
It’s a shame that a country which has a very relaxed attitude to people’s sexuality should be dragged into this.