Mahathir is the “father of racism” in Malaysia as far as I am concern. He created the chasm between the races to strnghten his political. Cajoling the Malays, treathening the Chinese… simply ignoring the Indians – or letting Samy Vellu do as he please.
About half the cables are purely procedural. I plan to put the rest in the public domain…
Andrew, thanks for the information. Should we expect this in May before the election?
Regarding the redaction, do you feel this is going to be that much for the Thai cables? From a distance it looked as far as the Guardian and New York Times(?) went, more of a sop to the US government who was using the supposed danger to its foreign agents in places like Afghanistan. What is your attitude to those named in the cables passing on Thai information to the US? Personally I would find it hard to justify blacking out names in most cases, although I might find it easier to accept in those case where the source may find an LM case against them.
SteveCM – 34
Steve, you seem to be able to find insults and arguments in very little. Are you one of those people who can start a fight in an empty room?
Andrew Marshall has already addressed the point of what will be made public.
“I was under the impression that releasing the cables was exactly what Wikileaks intended. I applaud that idea. Steve, do you mean a sensible journalist would keep them to himself as money making exercise or something else? I guess you could be right, but it would be a shame if for whatever reasons, the curtains were kept drawn.”
I’d expect you to know that Wikileaks have always planned “managed” publication of the cables they have – notwithstanding the “insurance” of parking encrypted copies of them elsewhere. AFAIK, all those involved have followed the same principle – at least selecting which cables to publish and redacting those for the reasons given.
Your reference to “…money making exercise or something else?” by definition includes every conceivable possibility – so how could one help but be “right” given those absurdly universal parameters? Once again, you seem to show your penchant for deploying innuendo; I’d have some respect if you actually cut to the chase and made a clear accusation – but then, that would require some back-up wouldn’t it?
If the Thai monarchy disappears, one of the main reasons will be its strong connections with the military, which is in many respects a deeply criminal organisation. All militaries have at least some criminal characteristics, even those ostensibly under civilian control in countries ruled by laws. Some of the behaviour of officer cadets and their instructors in the Australian military is more suited to the morality of the Mafia than to that of civilian Australia. Only the rule of law prevents the State itself from being a criminal organisation, and we know how weak that is in Thailand.
I do interested in ANU Asia Pacific Week but poor me that I just get the information and application form, I try to complete it all on last night but I miss the supporting document is written references. My question is could I still apply it or not? Thanks
December 21, 1977: Army Captain, Senior Lieutenant, R.N., Flight Lieutenant.
December 25, 1980: Major, Lieutenant Commander, R.N., Squadron Leader.
October 1, 1983: Lieutenant Colonel, Commander, R.N., Wing Commander.
May 28, 1985: Colonel, Captain, R.N., Group Captain.
January 31, 1989: Major-General, Rear-Admiral, Air Vice-Marshal.
August 19, 1992: Lieutenant-General Vice-Admiral, Air-Marshal.
April 5, 1996: General, Admiral, Air Chief-Marshal.
The placement of vowels, tone marks, consonant silencing diacritics and a few other such markers in Thai allows for construing virtually all of the information about word boundaries that spacing adds for a language like English. It’s a non-issue.
If Andrew is writing article and using the cables to add meat to it, then obviously he would pick those cables that refer to his article’s subject, hence ‘cherry-picking’. That’s why the release of all the cables would be important, especially when we are so close to an election. Without that it could produce a ‘Zinoviev Letter’ effect, even though in this case it would be due to the sin of omission rather than a lie.
Do you seriously think any sensible journalist would release all of the cables to the public at large? If so, why?
I was under the impression that releasing the cables was exactly what Wikileaks intended. I applaud that idea. Steve, do you mean a sensible journalist would keep them to himself as money making exercise or something else? I guess you could be right, but it would be a shame if for whatever reasons, the curtains were kept drawn.
@John W#28, I appreciate your frustration. However, let me point out that, while many available reading materials in Thai may fall in the category of being not very worthwhile reading ( this includes many mainstream journalistic media articles, contemporary fiction/nonfiction books, etc.), there are indeed very high- standard Thai literatures which require more in-depth knowledge of the language than what one can achieve from four to five years of studying.
Looking forward to Scottish Andrew’s article, and am wondering whether he has faced any ‘heat’ since announcing he has all the cables?
I agree with Les that hopefully all the cables are placed in the public domain, as different readers will have different interests, and it often takes many sets of eyes to look over things to glean all the nuances.
Well, LesAbbey, that’s a problem of your own making. When you so often ask questions that look designed to bring in a point obliquely without actually making it properly i.e. it’s just innuendo, then after a while people are going to stop regarding them as serious questions.
Why would one suspect “cherry-picking”? Do you seriously think any sensible journalist would release all of the cables to the public at large? If so, why?
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Yes, I have to admit Neptunian that I always tend to picture Mahathir as the Poison Dwarf of the region.
Sarawak elections: Contrarian views
Mahathir is the “father of racism” in Malaysia as far as I am concern. He created the chasm between the races to strnghten his political. Cajoling the Malays, treathening the Chinese… simply ignoring the Indians – or letting Samy Vellu do as he please.
“Only the Good die young”… sad but true
Thai monarchy and Wikileaks
Andrew Marshall – 33
About half the cables are purely procedural. I plan to put the rest in the public domain…
Andrew, thanks for the information. Should we expect this in May before the election?
Regarding the redaction, do you feel this is going to be that much for the Thai cables? From a distance it looked as far as the Guardian and New York Times(?) went, more of a sop to the US government who was using the supposed danger to its foreign agents in places like Afghanistan. What is your attitude to those named in the cables passing on Thai information to the US? Personally I would find it hard to justify blacking out names in most cases, although I might find it easier to accept in those case where the source may find an LM case against them.
SteveCM – 34
Steve, you seem to be able to find insults and arguments in very little. Are you one of those people who can start a fight in an empty room?
Thai monarchy and Wikileaks
c32
Andrew Marshall has already addressed the point of what will be made public.
“I was under the impression that releasing the cables was exactly what Wikileaks intended. I applaud that idea. Steve, do you mean a sensible journalist would keep them to himself as money making exercise or something else? I guess you could be right, but it would be a shame if for whatever reasons, the curtains were kept drawn.”
I’d expect you to know that Wikileaks have always planned “managed” publication of the cables they have – notwithstanding the “insurance” of parking encrypted copies of them elsewhere. AFAIK, all those involved have followed the same principle – at least selecting which cables to publish and redacting those for the reasons given.
Your reference to “…money making exercise or something else?” by definition includes every conceivable possibility – so how could one help but be “right” given those absurdly universal parameters? Once again, you seem to show your penchant for deploying innuendo; I’d have some respect if you actually cut to the chase and made a clear accusation – but then, that would require some back-up wouldn’t it?
Has anybody else noticed…
Nganadeeleg, yes, Sirindhorn is a General and Admiral (of the three services).
Student scholarships for ANU Asia Pacific Week
Just send in what you are able to today. AW
Has anybody else noticed…
If the Thai monarchy disappears, one of the main reasons will be its strong connections with the military, which is in many respects a deeply criminal organisation. All militaries have at least some criminal characteristics, even those ostensibly under civilian control in countries ruled by laws. Some of the behaviour of officer cadets and their instructors in the Australian military is more suited to the morality of the Mafia than to that of civilian Australia. Only the rule of law prevents the State itself from being a criminal organisation, and we know how weak that is in Thailand.
An outdated way of choosing a leader!!
EvaB if I were Vichy, who’s General de Gaulle in your fantasy take?
Thai monarchy and Wikileaks
About half the cables are purely procedural. I plan to put the rest in the public domain, after redacting them to protect sources named in the cables.
Student scholarships for ANU Asia Pacific Week
Dear Andrew
I do interested in ANU Asia Pacific Week but poor me that I just get the information and application form, I try to complete it all on last night but I miss the supporting document is written references. My question is could I still apply it or not? Thanks
Has anybody else noticed…
From http://kanchanapisek.or.th/biography/sirindhorn/part1.htm#Military:
December 21, 1977: Army Captain, Senior Lieutenant, R.N., Flight Lieutenant.
December 25, 1980: Major, Lieutenant Commander, R.N., Squadron Leader.
October 1, 1983: Lieutenant Colonel, Commander, R.N., Wing Commander.
May 28, 1985: Colonel, Captain, R.N., Group Captain.
January 31, 1989: Major-General, Rear-Admiral, Air Vice-Marshal.
August 19, 1992: Lieutenant-General Vice-Admiral, Air-Marshal.
April 5, 1996: General, Admiral, Air Chief-Marshal.
Reforming Thai language structure
The placement of vowels, tone marks, consonant silencing diacritics and a few other such markers in Thai allows for construing virtually all of the information about word boundaries that spacing adds for a language like English. It’s a non-issue.
Student scholarships for ANU Asia Pacific Week
Today is the closing date. So you will have to move quickly!
Student scholarships for ANU Asia Pacific Week
I am interested in ANU Asia Pacific Week and would like to be one of the participants.
Thai monarchy and Wikileaks
SteveCM – 28
BTW, those are serious questions.
So I will try to answer them seriously Steve.
Why would one suspect “cherry-picking”?
If Andrew is writing article and using the cables to add meat to it, then obviously he would pick those cables that refer to his article’s subject, hence ‘cherry-picking’. That’s why the release of all the cables would be important, especially when we are so close to an election. Without that it could produce a ‘Zinoviev Letter’ effect, even though in this case it would be due to the sin of omission rather than a lie.
Do you seriously think any sensible journalist would release all of the cables to the public at large? If so, why?
I was under the impression that releasing the cables was exactly what Wikileaks intended. I applaud that idea. Steve, do you mean a sensible journalist would keep them to himself as money making exercise or something else? I guess you could be right, but it would be a shame if for whatever reasons, the curtains were kept drawn.
Reforming Thai language structure
@John W#28, I appreciate your frustration. However, let me point out that, while many available reading materials in Thai may fall in the category of being not very worthwhile reading ( this includes many mainstream journalistic media articles, contemporary fiction/nonfiction books, etc.), there are indeed very high- standard Thai literatures which require more in-depth knowledge of the language than what one can achieve from four to five years of studying.
Has anybody else noticed…
Apparently has close ties with the military – does she have a military rank?
Thai monarchy and Wikileaks
Looking forward to Scottish Andrew’s article, and am wondering whether he has faced any ‘heat’ since announcing he has all the cables?
I agree with Les that hopefully all the cables are placed in the public domain, as different readers will have different interests, and it often takes many sets of eyes to look over things to glean all the nuances.
Thai monarchy and Wikileaks
c26
Well, LesAbbey, that’s a problem of your own making. When you so often ask questions that look designed to bring in a point obliquely without actually making it properly i.e. it’s just innuendo, then after a while people are going to stop regarding them as serious questions.
Why would one suspect “cherry-picking”? Do you seriously think any sensible journalist would release all of the cables to the public at large? If so, why?
BTW, those are serious questions.
Pavin on lese majeste
C7
Do you know that Thai militaries are most renowned for their intelligence as well as mightiness?
Chuck Norris counted to infinity – twice but Thai militaries counted to infinity 4 times!
Thai militaries have already been to Mars; that’s why there are no signs of life there!!