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  1. Tench says:

    Johnny: There are some bad lecturers around for sure, but I suspect the figure 95 % says more about you than it does about them. Where did you go to university? Just out of curiosity. I went to a nothing special uni in UK in the mid-’80s. It was actually a polytechnic at the time I went to it. Apart from one guy who could never hold on to his train of thought for very long, the lectureres there were pretty good. I woldn’t say they were entertaining, they weren’t up there telling jokes. But then I didn’t expect them to be. I expected a clear explanation of the stuff I needed to know for the exams. Universities are optional. You don’t have to go to them. If you spent your time at university sitting there like lump with your crossed over your chest crying, “Waa I ‘m bored, entertain me,” then it looks like the money mummy and daddy spent on your education was wasted.

  2. Leah Hoyt says:

    Just mentioning Newin Chidchob and Vattana Asavahaem should be enough to discredit MattB’s comment. Panlop was also previously a yellow shirt, as already noted.

    It is fairly obvious that anyone who gravitates to the army side is deemed “good” and anyone who opposed them is deemed “bad”.

    The rest of MattB’s post just consists of reaching to Thailand vast rumor mill and picking out one or two that support his points.

  3. It's Martino says:

    MattB, why don’t you gravitate towards the red shirts then?

  4. michael says:

    Thanks Leah, but if I asked for ‘rat na’, I don’t think they’d know what I wanted. Then I’d go hungry. (You’re obviously right, but I’ve never seen it spelt that way in an English-language menu, always ‘lad-na’ or ‘lard-na’.) Boh penyang do(k)!

  5. michael says:

    Thanks Tom! I well remember the rush of excitement when I saw these artworks on the same afternoon as you, we both realised later. At last, I thought, Thai art which is connected to social ideas! I had never seen the Democ monument looking so good, so real.

    It’s clear that MattB needs to upgrade his concept of aesthetics & art history, and get out more. The narrow view that the function of art is to decorate and prettify an ugly world is one that is on the same level of intellect as the breathless adulation of Col. Sansern and the belief that reconciliation is a process of forcing everyone to ‘believe’ the same mendacious crap. In fact, many of the world’s great artworks have been called ‘ugly’ when they were first produced. Not that I would call any of the paintings under discussion ‘great artworks’, although they are certainly interesting and intelligent expressions of ideas. They come within the genre of ‘agit-prop’, which is notably rough, vulgar, often witty & iconoclastic, easy to read, & designed to motivate political action. And they are good examples of this form. Actually, the painting in number 6 shows a degree of skill & depth that should satisfy even the peculiar tastes of Matt. I hope they are being stored safely, so that one day they may be viewed in a state gallery.

  6. chris beale says:

    Matt B – a lot of fools like you dismissed the early signs of insurgency in Pattani.
    General Prayuth certainly takes the risk of a Pattani-style insurgency developing in Isaarn far more seriously than a clown like you.
    There are so many illegal guns in Issarn, at best of normal times, it would not be hard to launch insurgency there.

  7. Nganadeeleg says:

    Matt B: You seem to be forgetting those backroom deals that put Abhisit in power (and keeps him there).

    Is it possible to also say all the โ€˜wrongโ€™ characters seem to gravitate towards the Privy Council? ๐Ÿ™‚

  8. Srithanonchai says:

    MattB # 7

    Applied to yourself, could one not expect a better political-intellectual performance by a supposedly educated western guy with access to the Internet, and enough time and motivation to post comments on New Mandala? Otherwise, you might just be reduced to an ordinary member of the mindlessly babbling commentariat.

    But perhaps it is just me…

  9. MattB says:

    All the ‘wrong’ characters seem to gravitate towards the Thaksin-funded Red movement. Rogue generals Sae Daeng and assasin Panlop, Chalerm Yubamrung (of the cop killing/extortion notoriety), Chavalit (the muddling general w/ shady Burmese business links) and those prepaid (up to Baht 100 million according to news account EACH!) Red leaders.
    And recent reported scandal that million Baht donations to the Red cause (to help those affected by the Black May 2010 tragedy) had been pilfered and unaccounted for . . . do suggest something seriously amiss.

  10. MattB says:

    That’s an amusing duet from John Francis Lee (#4) and Chris Beale (#5)singing their version of “Imagine” . . . and my ears may not be that good but off-key sounds vibrate still from these two.

    I did not even know there’s a Pattani-style insurgency at Isaarn . . . until ‘separationist’ Chris Beale mentioned it. Who’s the Red general leading at Isaarn Chris? Or had some yet unnamed rabble-rouser already emerged to lead those poor Isaarn to some yet-to-come slaughter???

  11. Tarrin says:

    MattB – 7

    I think the ideology that the group is standing up for is much more than the art they produce, if what you said is true then uncle Ho or Lenin should be the best painters ever and not the revolutionist, or do they? maybe you should give us some example of what kind of artistic piece they’ve produced?

  12. chris beale says:

    And notable by his absence – is the Crown Prince – as Bumiphol is reported visiting Sirikit, newly hospitalised.
    http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/10/02/national/HM-the-King-visits-Queen-in-hospital-for-checkup-30139196.html

  13. jonny says:

    I thought it was an interesting discussion; a great deal less so now that Burger King have spoiled it.

    I remember my formal education well. Unfortunately. Years and years of torturous, excruciating boredom listening to incompetent failures drone on and on in front of equally terrible PowerPoint ‘presentations’. I was lucky to have a couple brilliant lecturers, but I mostly remember the hundreds of frauds masquerading as teachers. It’s despicable that they would have the nerve to cash their paychecks. The lecturer in this mock advertisement reminded me of their endless fail. After 15 sec I was bored out my mind.

    Academic staff must face up to the fact that their wealth of knowledge (real or perceived) does not qualify them to teach. An effective teacher must engage their students. If they cannot, they are incompetent. bup bup bup no excuses! If you cannot endear yourself (and the subject matter) to your students – you. are. a. failure.

    When you strip all the nonsense away, the simple truth is that 95% of academics are simply incompetent. And, by extension, fraudulent. If you’re struggling with a class, you need to face up to the fact that your students recognise your incompetence. And expecting respect when you have done nothing to earn it? That would merely imply you were delusional. Nothing more.

    If your students don’t respect you, you are not earning your salary. It’s really as simple as that.

    And whilst I don’t really think much of the student’s brash conduct; if a lecturer ever did that in a classroom (primary, secondary, tertiary – it doesn’t matter)…they should be hung out to dry. For so, so many reasons…

  14. Yi-Leen Lim says:

    For those commenting on how โ€œsmartโ€ the comments were (or the lack of), I would just like to point out that there was no description about the video in this post โ€“ which makes it a free for all interpretation.

    It would have been much better if you had taken the time and space on New Mandala to note that scenes like these are only believable because there have been similar cases of it in real life.

    And if any of the examples of similar scenes given in the comments above are questionable to the point of non-existence, well, then there is no problem. The video was entertaining. Period.

    Posting a comment and trying to act smart after Jojoโ€™s comment is simply, plain low.

  15. Leah Hoyt says:

    If you are talking about standard issue Rat Na, it is spelled with an R, not an L. Trivial point, I know, but might as well be right.

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  16. chris beale says:

    From the same article quoted above by Nicholas Farrelly :
    “Newly appointed army chief Prayuth Chan-ocha is planning trips to the North and the Northeast to visit relatives of red shirt protesters who were killed in the April-May rallies.”
    This is an attempt at good reconciliation PR – but will it merely rub salt into wounds, add insult to injury ?
    Chan-ocha’s promotion certainly helps secure Bangkok for the Queens Guards’ royalists (and ward off rival royalists waiting in the wings), but it may be much harder for them to secure Isaarn and prevent Pattani-style insurgency there.

  17. doday says:

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  18. doday says:

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  19. narin says:

    Itโ€™s interesting to see that not so much people question Who is the teacher? and Where this class room it located? No approval on information anymore? just criticize about educational system and there are no investigation on where this clip come from by new mandala

  20. LesAbbey says:

    Nganadeeleg – 42

    I stand corrected. You are quite right the general was the Panlop, who of course was the other general to start seeing and supporting Thaksin.

    Tarrin do you have General Panlop Pinmanee’s history for us? Pretty murky past it seems no matter what group he is backing and I see in one report Seh Daeng described as his sidekick. Is that a fair description I wonder?