I suggest some German anti-fascist Institute – of which Der Deutches BundesRepublick hast viel – gives the poor girl a scholarship to study in Germany.
Somsak # 25 – unfortunately, much as I admire her, this Princess could NEVER become the next KING.
At least not without an almost unthinkable turn of events.
She could however become the next QUEEN.
This is for the benefit of ‘superanonymous’ (#49).
The Reds leadership before and during the Apr-May2010 Reds protests were terrorizing Bangkok, and PM Abhisit’s government, with nearly daily indiscriminate M79 grenade attacks at army/police posts, businesses. Additionally the Reds leadership (Nattawut and Arisman’s 1.o liter bottle of gasoline for each Red protester) were captured on various video clips clearly threatening PM Abhisit with a widespread burning of Bangkok if PM Abhisit forces the Reds out of Rachaprasong. Those threats were no ifs and buts.
And the Reds leadership carried out those arson threats.
If that was not Red terrorism, what to call it? ‘Honest mistake’ perhaps?
Excellent – congratulations to both of you.
And a great idea – I look forward to next week’s episode.
Andrew, you said you worked in Northern Thailand – was this only Lanna, or only Isaarn, or both ?
It seems to me that the only variable left now to be decided is whether or not the reds have understood that the only way they can go forward is to start killing people. Assassination and guerilla warfare are the only weapons that will work, whilst the government insists on everyone but itself staying within the law.
This is not a call to arms, but merely an outsider’s view of the intrinsic hopelessness of playing according the other side’s rules.
Before you can build a shining new building, first you have to demolish the old ones. Knock them down and raze the site to the ground.
Ricky Ward # 24
Re :
“Irritated at this post which has wasted quite a lot of people’s time.
Perhaps we could have a thumbs down on the post itself to short circuit the process.”
Thank God NM’s editors did not listen to your remarks here.
Very interesting, informative posts by everyone else.
Thank you Chris Baker for stirring this issue up.
And Somsak, I look forward to what you have to say about King Ananda’s assasssination, in relation to the matter raised above.
For one such as myself still very much a learner on things Thai, this gives a wholly new perspective on what even Thai authorities admit was regicide. And regicide with huge regional consequences.
I think the red shirt hardliners deserve a fair share of the blame for allowing the red shirts to be characterized as terrorists — raiding Chula hospital with the resulting footage of terrorized sick and elderly patients having to be transported to other hospitals made it easy for the government to characterize the reds as terrorists. Up to that point, notwithstanding even the events at Phan Fa bridge, the reds had managed to maintain the facade of being peaceful protestors and had shrewdly grabbed the nation’s attention by forcing the hi-so crowd to make the trek to Emporium rather than Paragon.
I’m more optimistic than some of you about Thailand. The government has continued many populist programs and will continue to do so. The standard of living of the rural poor will continue to improve as will their educations and their economic prospects. The rural poor will eventually realize that the red shirts are just a substitute patronage network and won’t solve their problems.
It’s tragic what happened, but while things were peaceful, the government bent over backwards to accommodate the red shirts and allow them their say. Can anyone imagine New Yorkers allowing a similar two month protest in Times Square?
I believe the Red terrorist attacks in Bangkok aren’t over yet. In recent press releases, Thaksin S. (Supreme Red Leader) ominiously warns that his Red followers could go underground . . .
Thaksin would be referring to those heavily armed Red Ronins-clad-in-black directed by (assassinated) General Khattiya specifically to ignite a Thai civil war during the Reds protests. (Wall St. Journal press interview to this effect). After General Khattiya’s assassination and the arrests of Red core leaders, those Red Ronins-clad-in-black (now still in hiding in Bangkok or elsewhere) should be getting their orders direct from the Supreme Red Leader.
From AsiaTimesOnline “Unmasked: Thailand’s men in black”
By Kenneth Todd Ruiz and Olivier Sarbil May 29 2010 excerpts:
” …These (Ronins) were not the regular black-attired security guards employed by the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, or UDD, anti-government protest group who generally didn’t carry guns. These were the secretive and heavily armed agent provocateurs whose connections, by their own admission, run to the top of the UDD, also known as the red shirts.”
Suthachai began hunger strike yesterday (27). I talked to his lawyer this morning. The decision was Suthachai’s own (my bow for his bravery), neither his wife nor his lawyer knew in advance. (His wife was rightly quite worried.) According to his lawyer, there’s some chance the police would relent and give back his books (just normal history books). I really, really hope he’s right. Also, his lawyer had to wait for an hour before being allowed to see Suthachai.
I’ve seen the news on Prachatai and Matichon websites, and on Manager website too. But not on other mainstream newspaper websites. Haven’t seen it on Thai Rath print edition today either.
It’s so sad. I see no Thai language comments here – merely Farang comments based on their own cultural understandings. I’m an American with a Thai wife of 20-years. What are my options?
My wife has no desire to return to the US – A place she feels is a heartless culture. She says, rightly, “How can Americans put their mothers and fathers in old folk’s homes.” That very thought is inimical to her belief system.
My life is here. But I know one thing, the elites in this society must cede some proportionate power to the Thais of lesser birth and status. If they don’t, my wife and I will return to the US.
God speed Thailand – if you continue to call the majority of your citizens uneducated buffaloes, you will reap the whirlwind.
Long Live the King
You’re wrong. Yes, “the 1924 Palace Law had legal priority.” But you don’t read the law with enough care. According to the law, the king’s expressed wish has top priority over any other criteria, including the table of order of heirs that is outlined later in the law. If the king declared any person unfit for the throne, that person is barred forever. And Rama VI did make a signed pact with this brother, Prince Chakkrapong (Chula-Chakkrapong’s father), that the latter’s son would never ascend to the throne. The pact was witnessed by senior royals. Furthermore, after Chakkrapong’s mysterious, untimely death, Rama VI had twice named his successor: first, Prince At-sadang, his next brother, and then, when Prince At-sadang too died early, Prince Prachadhipok, who eventually became Rama VII. This means that Chula-Chakkrapong had been ‘exempted’ (skipped) twice already (even one disregard the pact his father made with the king). And according to the 1924 law, any person who was skipped, could not later ascend the throne.
All these are independent of the law’s provision that forbid son of mixed parents (Chula-Chakkrapong’s mother was Russian). But even this provision itself is not as you understand it. True, it came out after Chula-Chakkrapong was born, but the legal principle of not applying retrospectively is, I argue, not relevant here (because it’s not about punishment). Besides, I believe on historical evidence, that provision was indeed intended by Rama VI, to cover just the Chula-Chakkrapong’s case. (Regardless of this issue, Chula-Chakkrapong was definitely barred-skipped as explained above.)
I have published an article, detailing this issue, which Pridi’s supporters have long been arguing, and you have repeated their argument here, with documentary proof, in Faw Diew Kan Magazine a few years ago, which I’m quite sure is definitive. You can see the article online here: http://somsakwork.blogspot.com/2006/06/byproduct-royalists.html
As indicated above, Pridi’s supporters and you are wrong. Rama VIII did ascend to the throne in accordance with the order specified by the 1924 law. In this sense, the royalists that have long asserted this, against Pridi’s supporters, are right.
But Pridi’s supporters (and you here) could also be right too! Political consideration was probably a factor in the People’s Party (and Pridi)’s decision to support Prince Mahidol’s son (Anan) to become Rama VIII. It just happened that political consideration – if there was any – coincided with the 1924 law that made Anan the first in line to the throne in 1933.
To sum up. Both Pridi’s supporters and the royalists are both right, and they are both wrong. Pridi’s supporters are wrong that Rama VIII ascension was not according to law, but they’re probably right that Pridi’s political support/decision probably also played a part. The royalists are right that Anan was first in line to the throne according to law, but they’re probably wrong to deny the political factor entirely.
(I intended to write the second installment of my article above, dealing with this issue, but never got the time to do it. The article was published just when the current crises broke in 2006. In fact, the PAD-Manager crowd, who cannot read any long, complicated article, attacked it for – this is truly funny – supposed covert message of supporting the Chula-Chakkrapong line, against the current occupants of the throne – the exact opposite of what I actually argue.)
……………
My apology to all NM readers to have taken the issue quite far from this post. So let me say in conclusion that, Dr.Chris Baker’s comment of Stevenson is SPOT-ON. Stevenson is probably delusional, I think. And his book should be read just for laugh. (Were it not for some very serious issue, like the Rama VIII assassination, which he mention in the Sun article, and which I would return to, if I have time on my hand.
I had the chance to witness 1992 and this so-called military crack down. The soldiers’ behaviors were a completely different. For you who sit infront of your monitors, the Redshirts and their propaganda machines had gotten you. The group of mostly women, old folks and children who were by the stage I believe was peaceful. Cheering when the report of casualty reached their ears. It is important to paint the image of the soldiers as those I witnessed 1992 Chamlong vs Suchinda protest. Thaksin’s master plan hatched in Dubai. I believe the govt showed that gathering on tv.
The plot was to march one million Thais to Bkk and make the demand for AV to dissolve the parliament. They probably got one eleventh of the million! If they had kept the promise of being peaceful in their political voice. I believe there may be a few hundred Redshirts in Phan Fa right now. Some of the hardworking northerners may be ready to harvest their rice paddy mid-June by the Democracy Monument. Called it crazy fried rice if one preferred it cooked that way!
They stepped up their efforts but it was useless. The tried black magic . Thaksin really loves this method. In his happier days with Newin he had to ride a number of elephants and worshipped some 99 temples. But the best magic trick was to go across Mae Nam Chao Phraya to Twin City Thonburi. We have King Tuksin’s monument, btw, he believes he is the reincarnation of that Chinese Thai king who united Siam. Well, the magic stuff they did there was to break many clay rice pots. Some other colour shirted group brought clay rice pots to counter the spell. Local potters had their windfalls on that auspicious day according to the Voice of Tuksin magazine. Btw, my Chinese name is Thak Sin. OMG!
The Thai were careful about collateral damage in this mini war. The UDD wanted many deads and have been busy counting. The Redshirts brought a baby to one of the battles at Bon Kai. Some sort of human sacrifice to appease the spirit of democracy? Children, obviously high on thinner was lighting Isarn rain-making rockets and having hand-on lessons of arson.
I was dying to see Jatuphon and ai mor Weng fight the soldiers bare handed. They were diving for cover some women sarongs when someone lit a giant fire cracker.
Thaksin was shopping in Paris LV for handbags in soothing store music while Bkk was burning. He was quick to say that the Redshirts did not burn the iconic Central World because the buffaloes didn’t have the knowhow. They could read price tags,though. Have AV and Suthep fed to the lions(opposition on May 31 & June 01 impeachment) Each of the UDD leader had a different versions of pyrotechnics. The shrewd Supreme Leader’s order to burn was simple and concise. If the UDD leaders were arrested in Bkk, pee nong, just go the city hall finish it!. The literal translation. I was in Chiangmai for a month before Mar 12. I attended the UDD rally every night. It was so addictive the hate speeches I couldn’t sleep if I skipped the rally infront of the railway station. The indoctrination was excellent. I remember the burning order line, the locals couldn’t sit on whatever they had butts on! They stood up in unison punching the polluted Chiangmai night air. Nero, my heart will go on. Lydia
Again, there are reasonable grounds to believe that R8’s rise to the throne was not based completely on Siamese law and procedure, but on political considerations as well.
Baker can not credibly state that Stevenson is “hilarious” and “just making things up” for saying that “politicians” played a discretionary role in “restoring” the throne by giving it to the Mahidol branch of the royal family.
Well, ordinary people are going to have to stand up to the shrill Neonazi onslaught of the minority. I think they are very loud, but that they are a minority. The cyber sphere is easily manipulated by a minority. The CRES have but a lot of hasbaristas, to borrow the Israeli term for paid hack who floods websites in defense of “the regime”, on their payroll recently as evidenced above.
Cyber space is nothing but hot air. Whether it’s mine or yours or anyone else’s.
There is a case of an 18 year-old girl, Ms. Natthakarn Sakoondarachart, who gained admission to Silpakorn University but whose admission was “rescinded” unilaterally by the Dean, Assc Prof Dr. Pinmanee, on the orders of The Manager, apparently.
If the faculty and students at Silpakorn University let this stand then Thailand will go nazi, just as Germany did, although with lessor international repercussions.
There is now another report of death threats made against Natthakarn. I imagine them to be bluff… but perhaps they are not. Surely now, in Thailand, perpetrators who murdered a “terrorist” or “anti-monarchist” would have nothing to fear from “the authorities”.
The faculty and students of Silpakorn must take a stand.
I can imagine them contacting Natthakarn, offering to meet her on her arrival on campus, or going to pick her up at this point, and escorting her to the Dean’s office where they will demand the reinstatement of the University’s recruitment of Natthakarn.
I can imagine them refusing to leave the Dean’s office until Natthakarn’s recruitment was reinstated and an apology made to her, and to the Thai people for the cowardly way in which the Silpakorn administration caved in to Neonazi demands.
That’s what it is going to take to put things on track in Thailand. If the “silent majority” in Bangkok remains silent, if they accept the demonization of this one today, then it will be that one tomorrow.
Cost too extreme, it will not be worth it. Who are we to judge? And what about those who had already paid in FULL with their LIVES?
It’s bullying tactics to rule with terror, and as anyone knows, bullies only stop if no one is willing to let them do as they wish.
Del, you seem very confident of laying M79 attacks on the Red’s feet. I suggest you provide proof to convince us not of ASTV, Nation, or CRES origin. Concrete proof that shall prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, the Reds are using M79 and killing indiscriminately.
Show us proof, and prove us wrong. Or stop being a troll.
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Thailand’s terrorists
John Francis Lee #17 :
I suggest some German anti-fascist Institute – of which Der Deutches BundesRepublick hast viel – gives the poor girl a scholarship to study in Germany.
Why King Vajiralongkorn will be good for Thai Democracy
Somsak # 25 – unfortunately, much as I admire her, this Princess could NEVER become the next KING.
At least not without an almost unthinkable turn of events.
She could however become the next QUEEN.
Enemies, foreign and domestic
This is for the benefit of ‘superanonymous’ (#49).
The Reds leadership before and during the Apr-May2010 Reds protests were terrorizing Bangkok, and PM Abhisit’s government, with nearly daily indiscriminate M79 grenade attacks at army/police posts, businesses. Additionally the Reds leadership (Nattawut and Arisman’s 1.o liter bottle of gasoline for each Red protester) were captured on various video clips clearly threatening PM Abhisit with a widespread burning of Bangkok if PM Abhisit forces the Reds out of Rachaprasong. Those threats were no ifs and buts.
And the Reds leadership carried out those arson threats.
If that was not Red terrorism, what to call it? ‘Honest mistake’ perhaps?
Thailand in crisis – ANU video series
Excellent – congratulations to both of you.
And a great idea – I look forward to next week’s episode.
Andrew, you said you worked in Northern Thailand – was this only Lanna, or only Isaarn, or both ?
Thailand’s terrorists
It seems to me that the only variable left now to be decided is whether or not the reds have understood that the only way they can go forward is to start killing people. Assassination and guerilla warfare are the only weapons that will work, whilst the government insists on everyone but itself staying within the law.
This is not a call to arms, but merely an outsider’s view of the intrinsic hopelessness of playing according the other side’s rules.
Before you can build a shining new building, first you have to demolish the old ones. Knock them down and raze the site to the ground.
Thailand’s terrorists
It’s all about clandestine arrangements, nothing more nothing less.
Unless this disease is cured and their networks of beacons’ cut off – NO democracy in Thailand.
Stevenson on King Bhumibol
Ricky Ward # 24
Re :
“Irritated at this post which has wasted quite a lot of people’s time.
Perhaps we could have a thumbs down on the post itself to short circuit the process.”
Thank God NM’s editors did not listen to your remarks here.
Very interesting, informative posts by everyone else.
Thank you Chris Baker for stirring this issue up.
And Somsak, I look forward to what you have to say about King Ananda’s assasssination, in relation to the matter raised above.
For one such as myself still very much a learner on things Thai, this gives a wholly new perspective on what even Thai authorities admit was regicide. And regicide with huge regional consequences.
Thailand in crisis – ANU video series
On slightly different topic – must read article on the ‘black shirts’ or Ronin soldiers:
http://atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/LE29Ae02.html
this is the clearest portrait of this element of the Red Shirts to date…
Thailand’s terrorists
I think the red shirt hardliners deserve a fair share of the blame for allowing the red shirts to be characterized as terrorists — raiding Chula hospital with the resulting footage of terrorized sick and elderly patients having to be transported to other hospitals made it easy for the government to characterize the reds as terrorists. Up to that point, notwithstanding even the events at Phan Fa bridge, the reds had managed to maintain the facade of being peaceful protestors and had shrewdly grabbed the nation’s attention by forcing the hi-so crowd to make the trek to Emporium rather than Paragon.
I’m more optimistic than some of you about Thailand. The government has continued many populist programs and will continue to do so. The standard of living of the rural poor will continue to improve as will their educations and their economic prospects. The rural poor will eventually realize that the red shirts are just a substitute patronage network and won’t solve their problems.
It’s tragic what happened, but while things were peaceful, the government bent over backwards to accommodate the red shirts and allow them their say. Can anyone imagine New Yorkers allowing a similar two month protest in Times Square?
Thailand’s terrorists
I believe the Red terrorist attacks in Bangkok aren’t over yet. In recent press releases, Thaksin S. (Supreme Red Leader) ominiously warns that his Red followers could go underground . . .
Thaksin would be referring to those heavily armed Red Ronins-clad-in-black directed by (assassinated) General Khattiya specifically to ignite a Thai civil war during the Reds protests. (Wall St. Journal press interview to this effect). After General Khattiya’s assassination and the arrests of Red core leaders, those Red Ronins-clad-in-black (now still in hiding in Bangkok or elsewhere) should be getting their orders direct from the Supreme Red Leader.
From AsiaTimesOnline “Unmasked: Thailand’s men in black”
By Kenneth Todd Ruiz and Olivier Sarbil May 29 2010 excerpts:
” …These (Ronins) were not the regular black-attired security guards employed by the United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship, or UDD, anti-government protest group who generally didn’t carry guns. These were the secretive and heavily armed agent provocateurs whose connections, by their own admission, run to the top of the UDD, also known as the red shirts.”
http://atimes.com/atimes/Southeast_Asia/LE29Ae02.html
Sutachai on hunger strike
Re: Anonymous #4,
Suthachai began hunger strike yesterday (27). I talked to his lawyer this morning. The decision was Suthachai’s own (my bow for his bravery), neither his wife nor his lawyer knew in advance. (His wife was rightly quite worried.) According to his lawyer, there’s some chance the police would relent and give back his books (just normal history books). I really, really hope he’s right. Also, his lawyer had to wait for an hour before being allowed to see Suthachai.
I’ve seen the news on Prachatai and Matichon websites, and on Manager website too. But not on other mainstream newspaper websites. Haven’t seen it on Thai Rath print edition today either.
Why King Vajiralongkorn will be good for Thai Democracy
FYI: somebody has created a Facebook, titled “We want the next king to be Princess Maha Chakri Sirinthorn”. Have a look before its probable deletion soon.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/rea-xyak-hi-ksatriy-phraxngkh-tx-pi-khux-smdec-phra-theph-ratn-rach-su-da-syam-brm-rach-kumari/117391368282989?v=wall
P.S. I just realize this NM post is blocked by the ICT.
Thailand’s terrorists
It’s so sad. I see no Thai language comments here – merely Farang comments based on their own cultural understandings. I’m an American with a Thai wife of 20-years. What are my options?
My wife has no desire to return to the US – A place she feels is a heartless culture. She says, rightly, “How can Americans put their mothers and fathers in old folk’s homes.” That very thought is inimical to her belief system.
My life is here. But I know one thing, the elites in this society must cede some proportionate power to the Thais of lesser birth and status. If they don’t, my wife and I will return to the US.
God speed Thailand – if you continue to call the majority of your citizens uneducated buffaloes, you will reap the whirlwind.
Long Live the King
Stevenson on King Bhumibol
Anonymous,
You’re wrong. Yes, “the 1924 Palace Law had legal priority.” But you don’t read the law with enough care. According to the law, the king’s expressed wish has top priority over any other criteria, including the table of order of heirs that is outlined later in the law. If the king declared any person unfit for the throne, that person is barred forever. And Rama VI did make a signed pact with this brother, Prince Chakkrapong (Chula-Chakkrapong’s father), that the latter’s son would never ascend to the throne. The pact was witnessed by senior royals. Furthermore, after Chakkrapong’s mysterious, untimely death, Rama VI had twice named his successor: first, Prince At-sadang, his next brother, and then, when Prince At-sadang too died early, Prince Prachadhipok, who eventually became Rama VII. This means that Chula-Chakkrapong had been ‘exempted’ (skipped) twice already (even one disregard the pact his father made with the king). And according to the 1924 law, any person who was skipped, could not later ascend the throne.
All these are independent of the law’s provision that forbid son of mixed parents (Chula-Chakkrapong’s mother was Russian). But even this provision itself is not as you understand it. True, it came out after Chula-Chakkrapong was born, but the legal principle of not applying retrospectively is, I argue, not relevant here (because it’s not about punishment). Besides, I believe on historical evidence, that provision was indeed intended by Rama VI, to cover just the Chula-Chakkrapong’s case. (Regardless of this issue, Chula-Chakkrapong was definitely barred-skipped as explained above.)
I have published an article, detailing this issue, which Pridi’s supporters have long been arguing, and you have repeated their argument here, with documentary proof, in Faw Diew Kan Magazine a few years ago, which I’m quite sure is definitive. You can see the article online here:
http://somsakwork.blogspot.com/2006/06/byproduct-royalists.html
As indicated above, Pridi’s supporters and you are wrong. Rama VIII did ascend to the throne in accordance with the order specified by the 1924 law. In this sense, the royalists that have long asserted this, against Pridi’s supporters, are right.
But Pridi’s supporters (and you here) could also be right too! Political consideration was probably a factor in the People’s Party (and Pridi)’s decision to support Prince Mahidol’s son (Anan) to become Rama VIII. It just happened that political consideration – if there was any – coincided with the 1924 law that made Anan the first in line to the throne in 1933.
To sum up. Both Pridi’s supporters and the royalists are both right, and they are both wrong. Pridi’s supporters are wrong that Rama VIII ascension was not according to law, but they’re probably right that Pridi’s political support/decision probably also played a part. The royalists are right that Anan was first in line to the throne according to law, but they’re probably wrong to deny the political factor entirely.
(I intended to write the second installment of my article above, dealing with this issue, but never got the time to do it. The article was published just when the current crises broke in 2006. In fact, the PAD-Manager crowd, who cannot read any long, complicated article, attacked it for – this is truly funny – supposed covert message of supporting the Chula-Chakkrapong line, against the current occupants of the throne – the exact opposite of what I actually argue.)
……………
My apology to all NM readers to have taken the issue quite far from this post. So let me say in conclusion that, Dr.Chris Baker’s comment of Stevenson is SPOT-ON. Stevenson is probably delusional, I think. And his book should be read just for laugh. (Were it not for some very serious issue, like the Rama VIII assassination, which he mention in the Sun article, and which I would return to, if I have time on my hand.
Enemies, foreign and domestic
Jeff Savage was damn sure his Red Shirts pals were going to burn down Central World – – you all saw it all on the video clip:
http://www.smh.com.au/world/australian-launches-tirade-in-thai-court-20100527-whrn.html
In that video clip he was inviting those around him to join in the Red arson-party.
Still not convinced the Red Shirt movement is a terrorist movement?
Thailand’s terrorists
I had the chance to witness 1992 and this so-called military crack down. The soldiers’ behaviors were a completely different. For you who sit infront of your monitors, the Redshirts and their propaganda machines had gotten you. The group of mostly women, old folks and children who were by the stage I believe was peaceful. Cheering when the report of casualty reached their ears. It is important to paint the image of the soldiers as those I witnessed 1992 Chamlong vs Suchinda protest. Thaksin’s master plan hatched in Dubai. I believe the govt showed that gathering on tv.
The plot was to march one million Thais to Bkk and make the demand for AV to dissolve the parliament. They probably got one eleventh of the million! If they had kept the promise of being peaceful in their political voice. I believe there may be a few hundred Redshirts in Phan Fa right now. Some of the hardworking northerners may be ready to harvest their rice paddy mid-June by the Democracy Monument. Called it crazy fried rice if one preferred it cooked that way!
They stepped up their efforts but it was useless. The tried black magic . Thaksin really loves this method. In his happier days with Newin he had to ride a number of elephants and worshipped some 99 temples. But the best magic trick was to go across Mae Nam Chao Phraya to Twin City Thonburi. We have King Tuksin’s monument, btw, he believes he is the reincarnation of that Chinese Thai king who united Siam. Well, the magic stuff they did there was to break many clay rice pots. Some other colour shirted group brought clay rice pots to counter the spell. Local potters had their windfalls on that auspicious day according to the Voice of Tuksin magazine. Btw, my Chinese name is Thak Sin. OMG!
The Thai were careful about collateral damage in this mini war. The UDD wanted many deads and have been busy counting. The Redshirts brought a baby to one of the battles at Bon Kai. Some sort of human sacrifice to appease the spirit of democracy? Children, obviously high on thinner was lighting Isarn rain-making rockets and having hand-on lessons of arson.
I was dying to see Jatuphon and ai mor Weng fight the soldiers bare handed. They were diving for cover some women sarongs when someone lit a giant fire cracker.
Thaksin was shopping in Paris LV for handbags in soothing store music while Bkk was burning. He was quick to say that the Redshirts did not burn the iconic Central World because the buffaloes didn’t have the knowhow. They could read price tags,though. Have AV and Suthep fed to the lions(opposition on May 31 & June 01 impeachment) Each of the UDD leader had a different versions of pyrotechnics. The shrewd Supreme Leader’s order to burn was simple and concise. If the UDD leaders were arrested in Bkk, pee nong, just go the city hall finish it!. The literal translation. I was in Chiangmai for a month before Mar 12. I attended the UDD rally every night. It was so addictive the hate speeches I couldn’t sleep if I skipped the rally infront of the railway station. The indoctrination was excellent. I remember the burning order line, the locals couldn’t sit on whatever they had butts on! They stood up in unison punching the polluted Chiangmai night air. Nero, my heart will go on. Lydia
Stevenson on King Bhumibol
Roywin, the 1924 Palace Law had legal priority.
Again, there are reasonable grounds to believe that R8’s rise to the throne was not based completely on Siamese law and procedure, but on political considerations as well.
Baker can not credibly state that Stevenson is “hilarious” and “just making things up” for saying that “politicians” played a discretionary role in “restoring” the throne by giving it to the Mahidol branch of the royal family.
Thailand’s terrorists
Well, ordinary people are going to have to stand up to the shrill Neonazi onslaught of the minority. I think they are very loud, but that they are a minority. The cyber sphere is easily manipulated by a minority. The CRES have but a lot of hasbaristas, to borrow the Israeli term for paid hack who floods websites in defense of “the regime”, on their payroll recently as evidenced above.
Cyber space is nothing but hot air. Whether it’s mine or yours or anyone else’s.
There is a case of an 18 year-old girl, Ms. Natthakarn Sakoondarachart, who gained admission to Silpakorn University but whose admission was “rescinded” unilaterally by the Dean, Assc Prof Dr. Pinmanee, on the orders of The Manager, apparently.
If the faculty and students at Silpakorn University let this stand then Thailand will go nazi, just as Germany did, although with lessor international repercussions.
There is now another report of death threats made against Natthakarn. I imagine them to be bluff… but perhaps they are not. Surely now, in Thailand, perpetrators who murdered a “terrorist” or “anti-monarchist” would have nothing to fear from “the authorities”.
The faculty and students of Silpakorn must take a stand.
I can imagine them contacting Natthakarn, offering to meet her on her arrival on campus, or going to pick her up at this point, and escorting her to the Dean’s office where they will demand the reinstatement of the University’s recruitment of Natthakarn.
I can imagine them refusing to leave the Dean’s office until Natthakarn’s recruitment was reinstated and an apology made to her, and to the Thai people for the cowardly way in which the Silpakorn administration caved in to Neonazi demands.
That’s what it is going to take to put things on track in Thailand. If the “silent majority” in Bangkok remains silent, if they accept the demonization of this one today, then it will be that one tomorrow.
Up to the Thais. Neonazism… or not?
Thailand’s terrorists
Cost too extreme, it will not be worth it. Who are we to judge? And what about those who had already paid in FULL with their LIVES?
It’s bullying tactics to rule with terror, and as anyone knows, bullies only stop if no one is willing to let them do as they wish.
Del, you seem very confident of laying M79 attacks on the Red’s feet. I suggest you provide proof to convince us not of ASTV, Nation, or CRES origin. Concrete proof that shall prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, the Reds are using M79 and killing indiscriminately.
Show us proof, and prove us wrong. Or stop being a troll.
Sutachai on hunger strike
Thanks for the translation Acharn Thongchai.
I pray for his strength and for the quick release of all political prisoners. Let’s see how the government reacts to some old-fashioned non-violence.
– Is there any indication when Acharn Suthachai began his hunger strike?
– Has this been covered by the mainstream media? I remember reading an article about his detention in the Bangkok Post, but nohting since then.