Dusit Thani Hotel is getting the results of its kammic action after harbouring snipers to pick off unarmed protestors including the one who shot Saedaeng from an upper storey vantage point…No wonder as it is controlled by amaat interests [under Thanpuying Chanut Piyaoui]. sorry but-what comes round comes round!
barnsybkk#1: daft comment. Somchai was part and parcel of an elected party, only a change of leader; Abhisit was emplaced by the 2006 coup-makers under the direction of Supreme Puppet Master Prem and an unholy alliance with mafia (including Newin, who was under threat of impeachment over corruption charges at the time), the amaat, and some smaller party elements bribed into the opportunity for gaining new power and local pickings…
It is indisputable that Abhisit “was voted in by the elected parliament” but some say that happened because there is coup d’état in 2006, His government set up in military base which military elite make a promise to Newin(He is member of the House of Representatives from northern Thailand, Taksin political base, which he supported taksin before) that he doesn’t have to worry about his corruption case in court if he flip to Abhisit side.
Why do you think some nuts devised the system long ago to resolve disputes by voting on it (democracy) and then abiding by the winners’ decision? It’s less expensive, and painful. These are just the birthpangs of real democracy in Thailand. When both sides suddenly realise that democracy, yes, is a superior dispute resolution process.
The “ireport” section of the CNN website has been censored in Thailand, True and other ISP’s have cut off access to this on request of the government.
More censorship I am afraid.
Most Thai people are left with only government or PAD propaganda (like The Nation, ASTV, normal channels 3,5,11 etc (most owned by Army – how crazy is Thailand).
There is presently very little freedom of the local press in Thailand and censorship of foreign press, which is likely why many journalists have been shot and targeted by the snipers, the government want the media to get out and stay out, and then they can massacre the protestors and deny it happens.
As seen on on abc news news breakfast this morn Andrew I don’t recall Somchai the brother in law winning an election. I always thought he was voted in by the elected parliament, same as Mark was….
Ignorant foreigner fools. How would you think if a huge bunch of uneducated and misled fools did the same in the business district of your capital? I guess you would just bow before their demands and let them put their expelled leader to rule your beloved country, right? In every western country such “demonstrations” against the government in charge would be cracked down at a very early stage. In every wester penal codex encouraging people to take actions against the main institutions of the country – whether they presume it’s illegal or not – or doing such actions is declared as crime against the state or act of terrorism. It’s easy to make stupid conclusions from fragmented informations given to you by such ignorant foreigners as you are when you sitting in an armchair far away from the trouble. If they just had wanted early elections they would have accepted the PM’s offer. But they just want to cause more trouble here to drive the country to the edge of anarchy so they can put their leaders into the government without election because they know their leaders DO NOT have enough support to win an election. If they just don’t like the government they should vote accordingly at the next elections instead of making others life harder. You say it’s not democratic that the army tries to end this nonsense. And what is the democratic in taking hostage a whole business district in the capital for weeks causing millions bhat of loss to the whole country? Will you pay the rent for the merchants who are going to broke because of this? Or maybe those kind and peaceful reds will do that?
Hey Guys, I’m a Thai lady living in Bangkok. As #73 and #75 may bring the misunderstanding about our culture and politics.
WE NEVER EVER ACCEPT THE KILLING LIKE THIS!.
Where is those percentage from? for the people who against Mr.Thaksin. I don’t beleive it’s 80%! or it’s form Abhisit gang of liars.
Any way, Big thanks to all foreign press who show the truth to the world. I’m at home nothing I can do. Just try to surf the blocked sites and watch Internet TV to get to know what happen cos I live far away form fighting area, Thai TV still have nothing..has only big lies form government…May be CNN, BBC will be blocked soon…
May be the soldier should wait until these people set the gas station on fire. Please don’t tell me they might not, yes they might not but what’s at stake here if they do and they have set quite a few building afire.
Alas, I’ll be mean: a quote from uncle Samak on the dead of the yellow shirts: “I would like to ask why you would like to be at the scene. If you stay home, will you die?”
All I would like to point out is that will they be better off with that kind of PM they accused the elites of taking him out unfairly?
This is horrible, firing a live rounds at the protesters should not be allow. I heard that 32 people is already died from the fighting. This government must be stop.
They set truck on fire for reason since 31 demonstrators had been shot dead, 12 people in ICU and people are injures in countless number, Most the Body of demonstrator shot in head.
In response to Supapong, it is rather unbeleivable that you still insist people who have seen the information on this page to believe that what is being done by the government is right. The abuse of media is present here, so as the inhumane suppression by the government. Besides, the issue is beyond Thaksin already. You’d better change your mindset.
I would like to clarify another point you made. It might be true that most of Thaksin supporters are less-educated on average. As a matter of fact, most Thais are, in general, less-educated. It is not surprising if Thaksin’s supporters, which outnumber the Democrat’s supporters, are mostly less-educated as they made up large portions of population in Thailand. Don’t fool yourself that every single intellect in Thailand hates Thaksin. You are those who don’t believe in democracy or equality of human as it can be implied from your comment, which keep stressing about the educational background of Thaksin’s supporters.
How ironic you compare the PAD to the UDD. Only two Yellow-shirts were dead because of tear gas used in the suppression by the police. Meanwhile, more than 50 Red-shirts are dead already by the military and heavy weapons. The number is still going. What do you say then statistically? Who is more cruel, Somchai or Abhisit?
By the way, if you said at least 80% of Thais are against Thaksin, please tell your beloved leader to stop shooting at civilians and commence a new election now.
Lastly, you’d better keep in mind: nobody died until Abhisit wanted to end this protest.
you know nothing about Thailand .. you know nothing about thai politics and our culture really ..you don’t know why the army do like that … if you think the red shirt they fight for democracy you’re wrong really ,look back at who they fight for and what their point ..peace ,freedom or demo or Thaksin’s ex pm who was coup by the army because he committed crimes that we can prove by the court .. he corruped .. you know that I believed really ..What do you think about devil in the suit who want come back to Thailand without guilt ?? and if you know the red leader very well you will know some they are comunist too
Thai ppls don’t want Thaksin and his system that we call Thaksinomis like that ..he controled the systemp in thailand example court ..army ..police that he send ppls in his family in there
why you don’t check they have the weapon behind their camp I worked same your job too ,we understand why the army coup thaksin ‘s govt and then ..only one thing Thaksin he did good 30 baht when ppls go to the hospital that very good for help poor people .
we really feel sad for bad situlation now everyone get lost and hurt a lots ..and I hope forigner reporter will understand about thai politic culture well too ..we are not same Burma ,we have own politic that the west can’t understand
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Abhisit’s iron fist – Sunday
CNN report below on YouTube link.
These are Army snipers.
Their aim :
Frighten away all journalists.
Frighten away more protestors.
But shooting to kill and main innocent and unarmed civilians and journalists is against the law Abhisit/Newin and the cronies… do you not know that ?
“Innocents being targeted in Bangkok”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emP1gw07mwE
“Loss of faith in democracy lets hardliners stick in the boot”
Dusit Thani Hotel is getting the results of its kammic action after harbouring snipers to pick off unarmed protestors including the one who shot Saedaeng from an upper storey vantage point…No wonder as it is controlled by amaat interests [under Thanpuying Chanut Piyaoui]. sorry but-what comes round comes round!
barnsybkk#1: daft comment. Somchai was part and parcel of an elected party, only a change of leader; Abhisit was emplaced by the 2006 coup-makers under the direction of Supreme Puppet Master Prem and an unholy alliance with mafia (including Newin, who was under threat of impeachment over corruption charges at the time), the amaat, and some smaller party elements bribed into the opportunity for gaining new power and local pickings…
“Loss of faith in democracy lets hardliners stick in the boot”
It is indisputable that Abhisit “was voted in by the elected parliament” but some say that happened because there is coup d’état in 2006, His government set up in military base which military elite make a promise to Newin(He is member of the House of Representatives from northern Thailand, Taksin political base, which he supported taksin before) that he doesn’t have to worry about his corruption case in court if he flip to Abhisit side.
A Sunday morning look at Bangkok
Why do you think some nuts devised the system long ago to resolve disputes by voting on it (democracy) and then abiding by the winners’ decision? It’s less expensive, and painful. These are just the birthpangs of real democracy in Thailand. When both sides suddenly realise that democracy, yes, is a superior dispute resolution process.
Abhisit’s iron fist – Sunday
The “ireport” section of the CNN website has been censored in Thailand, True and other ISP’s have cut off access to this on request of the government.
More censorship I am afraid.
Most Thai people are left with only government or PAD propaganda (like The Nation, ASTV, normal channels 3,5,11 etc (most owned by Army – how crazy is Thailand).
There is presently very little freedom of the local press in Thailand and censorship of foreign press, which is likely why many journalists have been shot and targeted by the snipers, the government want the media to get out and stay out, and then they can massacre the protestors and deny it happens.
“Loss of faith in democracy lets hardliners stick in the boot”
As seen on on abc news news breakfast this morn Andrew I don’t recall Somchai the brother in law winning an election. I always thought he was voted in by the elected parliament, same as Mark was….
Reds’ fatal flaw: Thailand’s fatal flaw
@ 1st comment — “…they saw through it.”
Pretty obvious. Half of ’em have signed up for the “Red Shirt” ID card. I’d be keeping an eye on the registrar.
Nick Nostitz in the killing zone
Ignorant foreigner fools. How would you think if a huge bunch of uneducated and misled fools did the same in the business district of your capital? I guess you would just bow before their demands and let them put their expelled leader to rule your beloved country, right? In every western country such “demonstrations” against the government in charge would be cracked down at a very early stage. In every wester penal codex encouraging people to take actions against the main institutions of the country – whether they presume it’s illegal or not – or doing such actions is declared as crime against the state or act of terrorism. It’s easy to make stupid conclusions from fragmented informations given to you by such ignorant foreigners as you are when you sitting in an armchair far away from the trouble. If they just had wanted early elections they would have accepted the PM’s offer. But they just want to cause more trouble here to drive the country to the edge of anarchy so they can put their leaders into the government without election because they know their leaders DO NOT have enough support to win an election. If they just don’t like the government they should vote accordingly at the next elections instead of making others life harder. You say it’s not democratic that the army tries to end this nonsense. And what is the democratic in taking hostage a whole business district in the capital for weeks causing millions bhat of loss to the whole country? Will you pay the rent for the merchants who are going to broke because of this? Or maybe those kind and peaceful reds will do that?
Nick Nostitz in the killing zone
Hey Guys, I’m a Thai lady living in Bangkok. As #73 and #75 may bring the misunderstanding about our culture and politics.
WE NEVER EVER ACCEPT THE KILLING LIKE THIS!.
Where is those percentage from? for the people who against Mr.Thaksin. I don’t beleive it’s 80%! or it’s form Abhisit gang of liars.
Any way, Big thanks to all foreign press who show the truth to the world. I’m at home nothing I can do. Just try to surf the blocked sites and watch Internet TV to get to know what happen cos I live far away form fighting area, Thai TV still have nothing..has only big lies form government…May be CNN, BBC will be blocked soon…
Abhisit’s iron fist – Sunday
CRES official statement(16 May) claim that there is demonstrator who use M79 grenade luncher.
This two clip show the different between what is CRES claim
and How M79 grenade luncher works?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hmSPbugDAA&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyNT4Nn7uR0&feature=player_embedded
Is it just firework or real M79???
Nick Nostitz in the killing zone
May be the soldier should wait until these people set the gas station on fire. Please don’t tell me they might not, yes they might not but what’s at stake here if they do and they have set quite a few building afire.
Alas, I’ll be mean: a quote from uncle Samak on the dead of the yellow shirts: “I would like to ask why you would like to be at the scene. If you stay home, will you die?”
All I would like to point out is that will they be better off with that kind of PM they accused the elites of taking him out unfairly?
Nick Nostitz in the killing zone
This is horrible, firing a live rounds at the protesters should not be allow. I heard that 32 people is already died from the fighting. This government must be stop.
Why hasn’t the UN done anything?!
Abhisit’s iron fist – Sunday
To noi
They set truck on fire for reason since 31 demonstrators had been shot dead, 12 people in ICU and people are injures in countless number, Most the Body of demonstrator shot in head.
“Peaceful” doesn’t mean can not protect yourself.
Did you see this ? http://www.youtube.com/user/Petergreaney#p/a/u/1/DXQJnbTgf38
Is the clip that show military shot people just for protect themselves as CRES official statement!
Nick Nostitz in the killing zone
In response to Supapong, it is rather unbeleivable that you still insist people who have seen the information on this page to believe that what is being done by the government is right. The abuse of media is present here, so as the inhumane suppression by the government. Besides, the issue is beyond Thaksin already. You’d better change your mindset.
I would like to clarify another point you made. It might be true that most of Thaksin supporters are less-educated on average. As a matter of fact, most Thais are, in general, less-educated. It is not surprising if Thaksin’s supporters, which outnumber the Democrat’s supporters, are mostly less-educated as they made up large portions of population in Thailand. Don’t fool yourself that every single intellect in Thailand hates Thaksin. You are those who don’t believe in democracy or equality of human as it can be implied from your comment, which keep stressing about the educational background of Thaksin’s supporters.
How ironic you compare the PAD to the UDD. Only two Yellow-shirts were dead because of tear gas used in the suppression by the police. Meanwhile, more than 50 Red-shirts are dead already by the military and heavy weapons. The number is still going. What do you say then statistically? Who is more cruel, Somchai or Abhisit?
By the way, if you said at least 80% of Thais are against Thaksin, please tell your beloved leader to stop shooting at civilians and commence a new election now.
Lastly, you’d better keep in mind: nobody died until Abhisit wanted to end this protest.
Abhisit’s iron fist – Sunday
Red shirt protester shot in foot as he tries to set truck on fire.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-444833
Is this a peaceful demonstration?
Abhisit’s iron fist – Sunday
update 2:45 a.m
– dusit thani hotel got hit by series RPG, 17th floor is on fire. The rocket hit 5th floor, 17th floor.
– witness in a condominium near Din Daeng says, she saw army tanks, firing around.
Nick Nostitz in the killing zone
you know nothing about Thailand .. you know nothing about thai politics and our culture really ..you don’t know why the army do like that … if you think the red shirt they fight for democracy you’re wrong really ,look back at who they fight for and what their point ..peace ,freedom or demo or Thaksin’s ex pm who was coup by the army because he committed crimes that we can prove by the court .. he corruped .. you know that I believed really ..What do you think about devil in the suit who want come back to Thailand without guilt ?? and if you know the red leader very well you will know some they are comunist too
Thai ppls don’t want Thaksin and his system that we call Thaksinomis like that ..he controled the systemp in thailand example court ..army ..police that he send ppls in his family in there
why you don’t check they have the weapon behind their camp I worked same your job too ,we understand why the army coup thaksin ‘s govt and then ..only one thing Thaksin he did good 30 baht when ppls go to the hospital that very good for help poor people .
we really feel sad for bad situlation now everyone get lost and hurt a lots ..and I hope forigner reporter will understand about thai politic culture well too ..we are not same Burma ,we have own politic that the west can’t understand
Abhisit’s iron fist – Sunday
update: 2:02 a.m. local,
am checking the news, the army is driving 19 tanks, and some kind of cannon?
update: 2:11 a.m. report says it’s real, the tank with automatic machine gun!!
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