Well known columnist and PAD/Yellow supporter from the pro-government newspaper THE NATION states that far from being over by 7PM Saturday night as announced earlier by Vice Prime Minsiter Sutthep, the battle going on in the Bangkok Streets will continue for several days…….
“Ok, bad news is, as I have discussed with fellow editors, it is far from over. A few more days at least and we don’t even know how it ends.”
Report that well-known and internationally recognized Bangkok freelance photographer Vinai Dithajon was shot this afternon near Makawan Bridge. He’s still alive, waiting for doctors at the hospital………
Total Media blockage by “Democrat” Abhisit backfires !
Looks like even Abhisit is also staying glued to his laptop and himself gets his news Updates not from Thai MSM ! 😀
(photo by Minister Sathit, caption says “PM Abhisit at 11 regiment”)
Twitter is one of main alternative sources of info:
back in June 2009 there was a “Twitter Revolution” in Iran, with so many people on Twitter using Green masking for their Twitter avatars to express solidarity with protesters in Iran. this time though – somehow there is no similar support, nobody masks their avatars in red to show support with Red-shirts, huh?
nevertheless, MANY people at very least just follow up developing events on Twitter, not trusting Thai MSM anymore (although perhaps occasionally watching some mostly post-edited news footages).
Only Nation / TVT is comparatively more operative than other TV channels : it has almost constant fresh and Live reports, with reporters making video phone-ins through their i-Mobile phones. video quality is poor, but at least it gives one somewhat a feeling of being really in touch with rapidly developing events.
there he mentioned how group of activists at NRC (USA) successfully used Live web-streaming videos through their Qik cams, Uploading them to Uptake and keeping in touch through Twitter
well, of course red-shirts, who’re mainly peasants (who can hardly afford even PC, what to speak – fast ADSL connection) are not as good nor hi-tech savvy as those american activists. but there are many other people, not necessarily red-shirts, – even those who are neutral (that so called “silent majority” ? 🙂 ), – who are being “citizen journalists” and doing pretty better job than Thai MSM !
CAPO/Thai Military Spokesman Col. Sansern states Crackdown being performed by following international standards and “that all security personnel are concerned of people’s safety”.
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Live rounds ‘only fired into the air’
Published: 10/04/2010 at 07:20 PM BANGKOK POST
Col Sansern Kaewkamnerd, spokesman for the Centre for Public Administration in Emergency Situations, dismissed red-shirts’ claims that troops fired real bullets at red-shirt protesters.
Only senior soldiers were allowed to carry guns with real bullets, and they would be on the back of cordons to fire the bullets into the open air to scare protesters away, he said.
Col Sansern said that the crackdown on protesters was unavoidable, and it was performed by following international standards.
He also claimed that some protesters were armed, and that two security personnel deployed around Khok Wua intersection suffered gunshot wounds.
“We would like to reiterate that all security personnel are concerned of people’s safety,” he said.
@2nowant: “Playing out your ridiculous fantasies of what you were actually incapable of acheiving in your own countries.”
The red shirts are only demanding what most of those countries already have. Perhaps those who are living a fantasy are those many foreigners in Bangkok who, under a different political/economic system, might actually need to get a real job to maintain their colonial lifestyle.
You are right in thinking that teaching in thailand is not a proper job. That said, most teachers here were exported to keep the unemployment figures down. They can’t even afford to retire in most cases. Hardly colonial masters. Especially after the local political and bureaucratic system has taken away almost all their dignity. It’s called death by 1,000 cuts. thailand was never colonised by outsiders. Insiders did it all instead.
“The red shirts are only demanding what most of those countries already have.” Change that to “used to have” and you might be more accurate.
Try asking a red shirt what he/she really wants! They usually just ratttle off a load of excuses for their glorious leaders bad attitude and conduct. The man who is accountable to no one. In comparison, I know I could be fired purely on personal whim. No justification needed. Any lawyer here will tell you the law here is bog paper, if you could even afford to be told. Now where’s the fantasy in that stark cold realisation of fact? Yes, most farang jobs in thailand are a total waste of time.
http://twitter.com/tulsathit: “To recap: All that happened today so far may come to nothing, depending on whether govt can hold on to slim advantage they earned today.”
The Bangkok Post, Thaland’s top “Elite” newspaper has for some bizarre reason contradicted Minister of Information Panitan by reporting that 135 people have so far been injured in Bangkok today, including 91 civilians, 41 soldiers and 3 policemen…..
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Number of injured rises to 135
Published: 10/04/2010 at 07:06 PM BANGKOK POST
The number of people injured in Saturday’s clashes between government troops and red-shirted protesters has risen to 135, according to Erawan Centre of the Medical Department of the city administration.
Of the 135 injured, 41 were soldiers, three policemen and 91 civilians. The injuries were from tear gas, rubber bullets and being hit with hard objects.
Forty-seven of the injured were admitted to Vajira, two to Mission, 42 to King Mongkut, 10 to General, 13 to Ramathibodi, eight to Siriraj, three to Police and one to Chulalongkorn hospitals.
Government sponsored ThaiPBS evening news contradicts Minister of Information Panitan by reporting that “Most injuries (in Bangkok today) are from tear gas, others from rubber bullets.”
(assuming that the government troops were the ones throwing the tear gas cannisters and shooting the rubber bullets)
Dear Nicolas and Andrew,
I was so pleased a few months back to come across the New Mandala site, with it’s impressive range of insightful and reasoned commentary on Thailand and Myanmar.
It seems that the statement: ‘New Mandala encourages vigorous debate. However, for the moment we will only be publishing high-quality comments that make original contributions to discussion’ is being followed less and less, especially as the red-shirt demonstrations escalate. How on earth are the racist, ignorant comments of Enrico being allowed onto New Mandala? Can I ask what exactly is ‘high quality’ about: ‘Here’s a farang who definitely stumbled out of some go-go bar on Soi Patpong with a dark-skinned, tattooed, somtan-reeking, crab-infested Isaan girl in tow’?
I suppose it’s called freedom of speech….
@2nowant: “Playing out your ridiculous fantasies of what you were actually incapable of acheiving in your own countries.”
The red shirts are only demanding what most of those countries already have. Perhaps those who are living a fantasy are those many foreigners in Bangkok who, under a different political/economic system, might actually need to get a real job to maintain their colonial lifestyle.
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7:55PM Bangkok Saturday evening April 10th:
Report from Singapore Straits Times reporter Nirmal Ghosh of heavy gunfire around Khao San Road area.
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Plenty of photos here.
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Natthawut just announced at Rajprasong that the stage at Pan Fa is under attack. Sending reinforcements led by Arisman.
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7:50PM Bangkok April 11th Saturday:
Unconfirmed report of large-scale fire burning at Khao San Road.
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7:45PM Saturday Udon Thai Thailand April 10th:
Report Udon Thani Red Shirts have seized city hall and remain in front of offices after Puea Thai MP calls for peace……..
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7:20PM Saturday Bangkok April 10th:
Well known columnist and PAD/Yellow supporter from the pro-government newspaper THE NATION states that far from being over by 7PM Saturday night as announced earlier by Vice Prime Minsiter Sutthep, the battle going on in the Bangkok Streets will continue for several days…….
“Ok, bad news is, as I have discussed with fellow editors, it is far from over. A few more days at least and we don’t even know how it ends.”
Crackdown
7:30PM Bangkok April 1oth Saturday:
Report that well-known and internationally recognized Bangkok freelance photographer Vinai Dithajon was shot this afternon near Makawan Bridge. He’s still alive, waiting for doctors at the hospital………
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Total Media blockage by “Democrat” Abhisit backfires !
Looks like even Abhisit is also staying glued to his laptop and himself gets his news Updates not from Thai MSM ! 😀
(photo by Minister Sathit, caption says “PM Abhisit at 11 regiment”)
Twitter is one of main alternative sources of info:
back in June 2009 there was a “Twitter Revolution” in Iran, with so many people on Twitter using Green masking for their Twitter avatars to express solidarity with protesters in Iran. this time though – somehow there is no similar support, nobody masks their avatars in red to show support with Red-shirts, huh?
nevertheless, MANY people at very least just follow up developing events on Twitter, not trusting Thai MSM anymore (although perhaps occasionally watching some mostly post-edited news footages).
Only Nation / TVT is comparatively more operative than other TV channels : it has almost constant fresh and Live reports, with reporters making video phone-ins through their i-Mobile phones. video quality is poor, but at least it gives one somewhat a feeling of being really in touch with rapidly developing events.
at least once I must give this credit to Nation !
back in 2008 Jotman had a post :
“Innovations in citizen journalism”
there he mentioned how group of activists at NRC (USA) successfully used Live web-streaming videos through their Qik cams, Uploading them to Uptake and keeping in touch through Twitter
well, of course red-shirts, who’re mainly peasants (who can hardly afford even PC, what to speak – fast ADSL connection) are not as good nor hi-tech savvy as those american activists. but there are many other people, not necessarily red-shirts, – even those who are neutral (that so called “silent majority” ? 🙂 ), – who are being “citizen journalists” and doing pretty better job than Thai MSM !
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7:20PM Bangkok Saturday April 11th:
CAPO/Thai Military Spokesman Col. Sansern states Crackdown being performed by following international standards and “that all security personnel are concerned of people’s safety”.
—————————————-
Live rounds ‘only fired into the air’
Published: 10/04/2010 at 07:20 PM BANGKOK POST
Col Sansern Kaewkamnerd, spokesman for the Centre for Public Administration in Emergency Situations, dismissed red-shirts’ claims that troops fired real bullets at red-shirt protesters.
Only senior soldiers were allowed to carry guns with real bullets, and they would be on the back of cordons to fire the bullets into the open air to scare protesters away, he said.
Col Sansern said that the crackdown on protesters was unavoidable, and it was performed by following international standards.
He also claimed that some protesters were armed, and that two security personnel deployed around Khok Wua intersection suffered gunshot wounds.
“We would like to reiterate that all security personnel are concerned of people’s safety,” he said.
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@2nowant: “Playing out your ridiculous fantasies of what you were actually incapable of acheiving in your own countries.”
The red shirts are only demanding what most of those countries already have. Perhaps those who are living a fantasy are those many foreigners in Bangkok who, under a different political/economic system, might actually need to get a real job to maintain their colonial lifestyle.
You are right in thinking that teaching in thailand is not a proper job. That said, most teachers here were exported to keep the unemployment figures down. They can’t even afford to retire in most cases. Hardly colonial masters. Especially after the local political and bureaucratic system has taken away almost all their dignity. It’s called death by 1,000 cuts. thailand was never colonised by outsiders. Insiders did it all instead.
“The red shirts are only demanding what most of those countries already have.” Change that to “used to have” and you might be more accurate.
Try asking a red shirt what he/she really wants! They usually just ratttle off a load of excuses for their glorious leaders bad attitude and conduct. The man who is accountable to no one. In comparison, I know I could be fired purely on personal whim. No justification needed. Any lawyer here will tell you the law here is bog paper, if you could even afford to be told. Now where’s the fantasy in that stark cold realisation of fact? Yes, most farang jobs in thailand are a total waste of time.
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http://twitter.com/tulsathit: “To recap: All that happened today so far may come to nothing, depending on whether govt can hold on to slim advantage they earned today.”
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7:06PM April 11th Saturday Bangkok:
The Bangkok Post, Thaland’s top “Elite” newspaper has for some bizarre reason contradicted Minister of Information Panitan by reporting that 135 people have so far been injured in Bangkok today, including 91 civilians, 41 soldiers and 3 policemen…..
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Number of injured rises to 135
Published: 10/04/2010 at 07:06 PM BANGKOK POST
The number of people injured in Saturday’s clashes between government troops and red-shirted protesters has risen to 135, according to Erawan Centre of the Medical Department of the city administration.
Of the 135 injured, 41 were soldiers, three policemen and 91 civilians. The injuries were from tear gas, rubber bullets and being hit with hard objects.
Forty-seven of the injured were admitted to Vajira, two to Mission, 42 to King Mongkut, 10 to General, 13 to Ramathibodi, eight to Siriraj, three to Police and one to Chulalongkorn hospitals.
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7:15PM Saturday Bangkok April 1oth:
PAD/Yellow connected TV station TAN contradicts Minister of Information Panitan by reporting the following injury stats in Bangkok today:
19 army
3 police
71 civilians
1 foreigner
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7:10PM Bangkok Saturday April 11th:
Government sponsored ThaiPBS evening news contradicts Minister of Information Panitan by reporting that “Most injuries (in Bangkok today) are from tear gas, others from rubber bullets.”
(assuming that the government troops were the ones throwing the tear gas cannisters and shooting the rubber bullets)
Foreign Reds
Dear Nicolas and Andrew,
I was so pleased a few months back to come across the New Mandala site, with it’s impressive range of insightful and reasoned commentary on Thailand and Myanmar.
It seems that the statement: ‘New Mandala encourages vigorous debate. However, for the moment we will only be publishing high-quality comments that make original contributions to discussion’ is being followed less and less, especially as the red-shirt demonstrations escalate. How on earth are the racist, ignorant comments of Enrico being allowed onto New Mandala? Can I ask what exactly is ‘high quality’ about: ‘Here’s a farang who definitely stumbled out of some go-go bar on Soi Patpong with a dark-skinned, tattooed, somtan-reeking, crab-infested Isaan girl in tow’?
I suppose it’s called freedom of speech….
Richard P
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6:30PM Saturday April 11th:
Minster of Information Panitan on Channel News Asia a little while ago stating:
“Most of the injuries (in Bangkok today) were caused by the red shirts.”
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http://twitter.com/bethanyshondark: Hundreds of rounds being fired near Khao San Road in Bangkok right now.
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Reuters wire release article on Saturday’s events in Bangkok that went out at around 8AM Saturday morning in New York:
http://bit.ly/d5McH8
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@2nowant: “Playing out your ridiculous fantasies of what you were actually incapable of acheiving in your own countries.”
The red shirts are only demanding what most of those countries already have. Perhaps those who are living a fantasy are those many foreigners in Bangkok who, under a different political/economic system, might actually need to get a real job to maintain their colonial lifestyle.