Khunpenkrai,- there is not good or bad in this world, the world is gray. We wouldn’t have so much chaos in this world if the would can be divided into black and white that easily, otherwise people will be able to make decision without worrying about whether they make a wrong decision because everything is black and white.
Furthermore, I dont know why you only use your right brain and not the left?
RN England (37), your earlier explanation of well being was about a lot more than material prosperity, and even on a material level, I doubt average foreign reader of this blog is far better off than an average Thai reader.
Even then, you are implying that in order to achieve that prosperity Thais need to give up their own political system in exchange for western democracy. Would you convert them to Christianity, too? Or have them memorize Richard Dawkings books instead of the Bible?
What if Thais genuinely like to be “enslaved” and you are not the only one feeling lucky.
It shows the futility of a global arms-ban. Even if Germans won’t do it in near future, the Israelis or the Ukrainians or even the Russians will step into their shoes.
Money just talks and Burmese has a lot of cash from Gas and drugs.
StanG (30), your suggestion, that the average Thai would prefer not to live as well as the average non-Thai contributor to this blog, is not a serious one. It sounds more like the wishful thinking of one that gets special satisfaction out of cheap services from downtrodden people.
Just look at the present excessively lofty status of the Thai monarchy and the expected democratic system of government for the Thai people, and you see what an incongruous way of life most Thais have to live by!
A lot of red heads here…555
I like Farang who adores any country that they stay and live their lives happily trying to understand the difference. There are only 2 races in this crazy world…a good and a bad…
Stop doing this kind of research or open up this nonsense blog.
Didn’t they teach you in school the subject called “Ethics”? guess not
or else you skip the class.
We love our king and it is because of his goodness, similar to royal family in England, Japan..etc… oops…I forgot that you don’t have king…sorry for that, you couldn’t, cannot and never understand if you still use your left brain to think.
Tarrin the initial size of that scheme was 76 billion baht. If only one in ten pays back that’s 70 bil in losses, plus the culture of non-repayment that would cost a lot more in the long run.
StanG – I’m working for a private fund, and I do know more about lending than you do.
Anyway, why the statement is plausible was because the amount of the loan is so small, we are talking about 50,000 baht maximum here, not a large 1 billion with multiple MLR and time span. If 10 people get 50,000 each, and 1 was able to turn it back you had a 450,000 loss, hardly a big money, the SCCC lost 100 times of that money. Anyhow, we are betting on that 1 guy who able to pays back, and “maybe” able to form a SME worth 1 million and so on. Is it worth 500,000? hell sure is. However, if without that 50,000, we might never that one man.
banrachawong – Since I am a Thai, you statement is deeply troubling, and yes I totally disgusted with what you said.
Throughout my life, I have seen many foreigners who actually do care about our country than many Thais actually did. I got to know this guy from Denmark who married with a Thai, he used to work for a chemical lab in Copenhagen. The guy came to visit our prestigious university (Chula) and felt that the equipments in the lab was sadly out of date so the guy pull some string to donate some of the old equipments (old as being use less than 5 years as oppose to 10+ years) from Copenhagen and get it ship to Bangkok by his own money. You know what happen with the equipment now?? It just sat there in Chula equipment vault because no one care to learn how to use it.
Furthermore, I want to added that you should trace back your background a bit because I”m almost 100% sure that your ancestor was not originated from this land.
If there are any similar studies for Thailand (published or in-progress) then I imagine somebody out there among the New Mandala readers should be able to point us in the right direction. There is, of course, a chance that some Thai-language scholarship is taking up these questions too.
Or perhaps your China analysis will inspire somebody out there to be the first to crunch the numbers on inter-generational mobility in the Thai case…
Nicholas, thanks for the plug. We list in Table 7 all the international studies we can find. I think you’re right about immobility in some developing nations: certainly Malaysia and Brazil seem to have high intergenerational elasticities (ie. low levels of social mobility). I’d be fascinated to see similar analysis for Thailand.
BBK Lawyer – Before Thaksin some bar close down at 6 am, so I have to disagreed with you on that point, beside, I think the close down time is at 2 am, by law, did I make a mistake on that?
Furthermore, I have to disagree about education during Thaksin, I think he didnt improve anything, most of Thai students still only good at repeat what teachers and books tell them like parrot, so I think Thaksin didn’t achieve anything significant during his time, but I praised him on that he had made an attempt to increase teachers’ salary.
Lastly, about Thaksin shouldn’t return, I think he should, Thailand is in need of people that can do business, and Thaksin is one of a rare talented that doesnt come by everyday. Furthermore, if you think just because he is corrupted (which I personally think the case bought against him is politically motivated so it loses the legitimacy) that Thaksin deserved to go then people like Suthep who straight out corrupted with the Sor-Por-Gor 4-01 or Newin’s some other nasty corruption incident should also leave the country immediately.
I’d just like to post this as a question to everyone, on this post, and various others relevant on NM :
if Thaksin does win, and stage some sort of a come-back – do you think he will have anything like the power and control he exercised before ?
Personally, I’m somewhat doubtful – given what seems to be a lot of self-generation and self-funding by the Red Shirts, and those who sympathise with them.
And if Thaksin were kept out of the country, despite a pro-Thaksin party winning an election, the Red Shirts may become even more autonomous. Ditto if Thaksin returned, and was assassinated.
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Imagining a new mandala in mainland Southeast Asia
Is the left brain the red one and the right one yellow? Magnets change things, of course.
Imagining a new mandala in mainland Southeast Asia
Khunpenkrai,- there is not good or bad in this world, the world is gray. We wouldn’t have so much chaos in this world if the would can be divided into black and white that easily, otherwise people will be able to make decision without worrying about whether they make a wrong decision because everything is black and white.
Furthermore, I dont know why you only use your right brain and not the left?
Imagining a new mandala in mainland Southeast Asia
RN England (37), your earlier explanation of well being was about a lot more than material prosperity, and even on a material level, I doubt average foreign reader of this blog is far better off than an average Thai reader.
Even then, you are implying that in order to achieve that prosperity Thais need to give up their own political system in exchange for western democracy. Would you convert them to Christianity, too? Or have them memorize Richard Dawkings books instead of the Bible?
What if Thais genuinely like to be “enslaved” and you are not the only one feeling lucky.
Imagining a new mandala in mainland Southeast Asia
Luecha Na Malai : Really creative…I agree
Thailand Su Su…Taksin get out…oops
Selth on another Burma conundrum
Here is the link to an interesting article about the long term relationship between the German Arms industry and the Burmese army.
http://www.bits.de/public/articles/kleinwaffen-nl11-07eng.htm
It shows the futility of a global arms-ban. Even if Germans won’t do it in near future, the Israelis or the Ukrainians or even the Russians will step into their shoes.
Money just talks and Burmese has a lot of cash from Gas and drugs.
Imagining a new mandala in mainland Southeast Asia
Everyone, Thais and non-Thais alike, please calm down and help Thailand stand on its feet.
A Chinese analysis of Thai politics
This is nothing new at all. The Thais have a long history of power struggle among cliques, with some murdering of opponents if necessary.
Translation of The Economist on succession
What do you expect? Most Thais still live in the Middle Ages.
Imagining a new mandala in mainland Southeast Asia
StanG (30), your suggestion, that the average Thai would prefer not to live as well as the average non-Thai contributor to this blog, is not a serious one. It sounds more like the wishful thinking of one that gets special satisfaction out of cheap services from downtrodden people.
Speculation on the popularity of the Thai monarchy
Just look at the present excessively lofty status of the Thai monarchy and the expected democratic system of government for the Thai people, and you see what an incongruous way of life most Thais have to live by!
Imagining a new mandala in mainland Southeast Asia
A lot of red heads here…555
I like Farang who adores any country that they stay and live their lives happily trying to understand the difference. There are only 2 races in this crazy world…a good and a bad…
Stop doing this kind of research or open up this nonsense blog.
Didn’t they teach you in school the subject called “Ethics”? guess not
or else you skip the class.
We love our king and it is because of his goodness, similar to royal family in England, Japan..etc… oops…I forgot that you don’t have king…sorry for that, you couldn’t, cannot and never understand if you still use your left brain to think.
Imagining a new mandala in mainland Southeast Asia
Banrachawong,
Maybe the reason that the UDD has number of websites is insurance against one being banned in the middle of the night for some spurious reason.
The other is to maximize their traffic. It’s a completely common practice in commerce and politics.
Occupation of the malls – UPDATED
MediaWar, can you clear up your belief that the world is controlled by a secret society of maniacal sado-homosexual degenerates?
People would probably view your posts in a different way if they knew the platform you are coming from.
I’m referring to some of your posts on another blog as “antipadshist”.
Bangkok or bust, Part 1
Tarrin the initial size of that scheme was 76 billion baht. If only one in ten pays back that’s 70 bil in losses, plus the culture of non-repayment that would cost a lot more in the long run.
Bangkok or bust, Part 1
StanG – I’m working for a private fund, and I do know more about lending than you do.
Anyway, why the statement is plausible was because the amount of the loan is so small, we are talking about 50,000 baht maximum here, not a large 1 billion with multiple MLR and time span. If 10 people get 50,000 each, and 1 was able to turn it back you had a 450,000 loss, hardly a big money, the SCCC lost 100 times of that money. Anyhow, we are betting on that 1 guy who able to pays back, and “maybe” able to form a SME worth 1 million and so on. Is it worth 500,000? hell sure is. However, if without that 50,000, we might never that one man.
Imagining a new mandala in mainland Southeast Asia
banrachawong – Since I am a Thai, you statement is deeply troubling, and yes I totally disgusted with what you said.
Throughout my life, I have seen many foreigners who actually do care about our country than many Thais actually did. I got to know this guy from Denmark who married with a Thai, he used to work for a chemical lab in Copenhagen. The guy came to visit our prestigious university (Chula) and felt that the equipments in the lab was sadly out of date so the guy pull some string to donate some of the old equipments (old as being use less than 5 years as oppose to 10+ years) from Copenhagen and get it ship to Bangkok by his own money. You know what happen with the equipment now?? It just sat there in Chula equipment vault because no one care to learn how to use it.
Furthermore, I want to added that you should trace back your background a bit because I”m almost 100% sure that your ancestor was not originated from this land.
On mobility and inequality in Thailand and elsewhere
Thanks Andrew,
If there are any similar studies for Thailand (published or in-progress) then I imagine somebody out there among the New Mandala readers should be able to point us in the right direction. There is, of course, a chance that some Thai-language scholarship is taking up these questions too.
Or perhaps your China analysis will inspire somebody out there to be the first to crunch the numbers on inter-generational mobility in the Thai case…
Best wishes to all,
Nich
On mobility and inequality in Thailand and elsewhere
Nicholas, thanks for the plug. We list in Table 7 all the international studies we can find. I think you’re right about immobility in some developing nations: certainly Malaysia and Brazil seem to have high intergenerational elasticities (ie. low levels of social mobility). I’d be fascinated to see similar analysis for Thailand.
Bangkok or bust, Part 1
BBK Lawyer – Before Thaksin some bar close down at 6 am, so I have to disagreed with you on that point, beside, I think the close down time is at 2 am, by law, did I make a mistake on that?
Furthermore, I have to disagree about education during Thaksin, I think he didnt improve anything, most of Thai students still only good at repeat what teachers and books tell them like parrot, so I think Thaksin didn’t achieve anything significant during his time, but I praised him on that he had made an attempt to increase teachers’ salary.
Lastly, about Thaksin shouldn’t return, I think he should, Thailand is in need of people that can do business, and Thaksin is one of a rare talented that doesnt come by everyday. Furthermore, if you think just because he is corrupted (which I personally think the case bought against him is politically motivated so it loses the legitimacy) that Thaksin deserved to go then people like Suthep who straight out corrupted with the Sor-Por-Gor 4-01 or Newin’s some other nasty corruption incident should also leave the country immediately.
Occupation of the malls – UPDATED
I’d just like to post this as a question to everyone, on this post, and various others relevant on NM :
if Thaksin does win, and stage some sort of a come-back – do you think he will have anything like the power and control he exercised before ?
Personally, I’m somewhat doubtful – given what seems to be a lot of self-generation and self-funding by the Red Shirts, and those who sympathise with them.
And if Thaksin were kept out of the country, despite a pro-Thaksin party winning an election, the Red Shirts may become even more autonomous. Ditto if Thaksin returned, and was assassinated.