So that’s where you are coming from, Hla Oo. True the two organisations both founded by Aung San remain arch enemies, but it’s the Tatmadaw that changed and transformed into a pocket army of the dictators Ne Win and Than Shwe. And the CPB is most unlikely to make deals with them like they did with the ethnic ceasefire groups.
You are also speaking only for Than Shwe when you say ASSK will never be accepted as an elected leader of the people’s government. It’s common knowledge. The CPB is in fact hardly in the picture today; only just in 1988 when the UG cells were not led by PTG like you said but by Kyaw Zaw’s son in law Thet Khaing.
The civil war and violence will go on until your lot has been consigned to the dustbin of history.
We can practice self-sufficiency by not buying this book. After all, this sufficiency economy is by no means original. The main idea has been copied from the Buddhist principle of moderation, and this was made popular in a way by the readable book by E. F. Schumacher, Small Is Beautiful. Today’s proponents of sufficiency economy no doubt got the idea from this book, but they are too big (or too small) to admit it. We can say, at least quietly to ourselves, “Thank you, my dear Buddha,” and listen to no propaganda. Then we can truly be at peace with ourselves.
If you believe the sentence says “a better country” and you have provided a lesson in language and culture to Thais, anthropologists and western sociologists. . . . then I say “more, please”! We need more humor here.
Soon it will April 1, so I’m sure you are joking. If so, thank you and please forgive.
Interesting as when I rode around with the Reds on my bicycle a lot the first weekend of the protest I didn’t see ANY English signs. Good for them that they are communicating to an international audience now.
As an outsider but regular visitor to Thailand I have grappled with understanding lese majesty law. The western pro liberal democratic in me sees it as stifling free speech. But increasingly, I see the intent of such a law as vital to holding the social fabric of Thailand together. My observations show The King is revered by rich, poor, urban and country Thais. Even the “Reds” and Yellows” will claim allegiance. The King obviously is what bonds Thais together. His place above politics provides Thais with a nationalist symbol and stability in a country which at times titters at the edge of collapse. In a relatively young democracy like Thailand I would suspect that without The King and a reverence of his position there would be little holding the nation together. It is unlikely western ideas of free speech and freedom of expression would fill the vacuum left by King Bhumibol Adulyadej.
Find it interesting that in order to get access to this article, one must pay a fee of $30.00. Seems as if the cost of this propaganda militates against its usefulness as well as the SE ideal. Note that the following artcle, which preceds Khun Oranuch’s, is also available: “Faculty virtue and research capacity-building in the context of poorly funded universities: the case of the Royal University of Phnom Penh”, Ann Brooks ;Ly Monirith, Pages 83 – 98 . . . so near, yet so far . . .
The sufficiency Economic is just one in a thousand propaganda agendas this country has to accept. The rich want the poor to be always poor. Who does not want to be rich? The purpose of life is working hard and getting rich. For those who really want to know the truth about this country, you must open your eyes and your brain, you will be able to see the illusion in front of you.
“The Burmese villages, partly because of the peculiarly rapid tendency of the Burmese to resort to violence, had always had a higher proportion of criminal types than was usual in the East.”
(An excerpt from The Penguin History of the Second World War)
Burmese are a violent martial race. For thousands of years they built Burma by wars, not diplomacy or trade. War and violence is in their blood. So they finally lost their country to the English, much stronger and more violent foe.
Thais are a peaceful merchant race. They built Siam by trades, diplomacy, and smooth integration of migrants especially a large inflow of Chinese. Negotiations and compromise are in their blood. That’s why Siam has never been colonized.
Race riots are very common in Burma while Thais have never experienced one of Burmese scale.
I have written for NM the following essay in 2008, if you have forgotten already.
Both Burmese Army and CPB are two great institutions born out of land and founded by Bo-Gyoke Aung San.
The day the arch enemies Burmese Army and CPB recognize each other’s right to existence and make peace will be the day Burma returns to normality and ends the long suffering of her people.
Not the day ASSK gaining power as an elected leader as both CPB and Army will never accept her peoples’ government. And the civil war and violence will go on forever.
The underlying reason as to why the discussion becomes acrimonious is because the issue has been transformed from the water of the Mekong River to international security affairs. While some people attempt to scientifically probe the root cause of the drought, others are trying to manipulate the issue to create tension in order to disrupt the military cooperation between China and ASEAN countries. The difference in purpose has caused the contested argument.
The best solution for this situation is to probe the problem with scientific methods while reinforcing military cooperation for an extended deterrence to prevent a major war.
This is actually a very good list for improvements needed for public safety. If we were to analyze it in terms over public oversight and agencies, can you imagine whether there are actual rules regarding these things and that agencies were created that were assigned oversight, but then how many agencies have failed to do their job in Thailand? This certainly adds fuel to those arguing that Thailand is becoming a failed state.
Agree with Ngnandeelag,although myself being British,I am fed up paying the UK TV licence fee,when I am left having to rely on getting my news from online sites like Prachatai.com,New Mandala,Giles Ungpakhorns Blog ect, as those at the BBC don’t like to upset Royal personages.(even though its the truth!).What IS the matter with them?
SE philosophy(philosophy?) come out by the mouths of the richs and good wealth persons(especially, The Richest King). They treat and urge a social reponsibility to the lower-class to do somethings they can’t do by themselves. It’s just a reflection of nostaglia vision not too good to call it Philosophy. By the way, the Lese Majeste law can close your mouth or take someone to jail if we just talk about it in the negative way to the public.
There are much more differences between the Russian revolution and Redshirt contributions on time.
This journal can’t make the real point of similarities between Thai monarchy and Tzars system. It’s usually have many problems, especially the misconception, when we explain the same word on the very different historical contexts suchs as the words Capitalism, Feudalism or Liberalism.
Russian feudalism before the revolution has very strong oppression to a low-class in many ways – economics, politics even religion. Other than that, it had social crisis during world war II. But Thai modern monarchy have adapted and hide under the mask of “Father of the Land” or “The Kind King” which control ingeniously to the Thais by the best 24-hour propaganda in every places.
In this way, I think the normal persons can’t make the real conclusion from this journal – what is the relations to Thai society. We need more practical and more radical(and the most important NOT EXPENSIVE!)journal to improve the Red shirt contributions.
[…] the propriety of these rituals within the Brahmin community in this newspaper article, and in this extended description of the protests, which includes a discussion with the Brahmin at the center of the ritual. One can also read about […]
#somtom plara and Anon
According to the forecast in the poem by the holy Resi Ling Dam, Thailand will have a woman PM in the post king Bhumibol era. PM number 29 will be a woman. This woman will lead Thailand to justice, fairness, and prosperity. By that time, Thailand will no longer a poor country. The overall forecast is fun (and surprisingly factitious) to read. If my reading is correct, we are at the line where it says ‘the land is divided into two’.
You may have overlooked the level of bitterness and anger involved in the Burmese situation over a very long period of time, not that I condone mob violence. Perhaps too keen to portray ordinary Burmese as imherently violent and as bad as the military thugs, at every opportunity. Do I sense a common thread in your postings?
Do we get to see pictures of people in detention and under interrogation, unmarked and well treated, in Burma? I don’t know about Thailand. But hardly fair jumping to conclusions and making a sweeping generalisation from one picture. Call yourself a patriot!
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“History will not forgive us…”
So that’s where you are coming from, Hla Oo. True the two organisations both founded by Aung San remain arch enemies, but it’s the Tatmadaw that changed and transformed into a pocket army of the dictators Ne Win and Than Shwe. And the CPB is most unlikely to make deals with them like they did with the ethnic ceasefire groups.
You are also speaking only for Than Shwe when you say ASSK will never be accepted as an elected leader of the people’s government. It’s common knowledge. The CPB is in fact hardly in the picture today; only just in 1988 when the UG cells were not led by PTG like you said but by Kyaw Zaw’s son in law Thet Khaing.
The civil war and violence will go on until your lot has been consigned to the dustbin of history.
Oranuch on sufficiency economy
We can practice self-sufficiency by not buying this book. After all, this sufficiency economy is by no means original. The main idea has been copied from the Buddhist principle of moderation, and this was made popular in a way by the readable book by E. F. Schumacher, Small Is Beautiful. Today’s proponents of sufficiency economy no doubt got the idea from this book, but they are too big (or too small) to admit it. We can say, at least quietly to ourselves, “Thank you, my dear Buddha,” and listen to no propaganda. Then we can truly be at peace with ourselves.
Thailand: Love it or leave it
Dear Mr. Kirt,
If you believe the sentence says “a better country” and you have provided a lesson in language and culture to Thais, anthropologists and western sociologists. . . . then I say “more, please”! We need more humor here.
Soon it will April 1, so I’m sure you are joking. If so, thank you and please forgive.
“Thailand want р╕вр╕╕р╕Ър╕кр╕ар╕▓”: Red signs in English
Interesting as when I rode around with the Reds on my bicycle a lot the first weekend of the protest I didn’t see ANY English signs. Good for them that they are communicating to an international audience now.
Thailand: Love it or leave it
As an outsider but regular visitor to Thailand I have grappled with understanding lese majesty law. The western pro liberal democratic in me sees it as stifling free speech. But increasingly, I see the intent of such a law as vital to holding the social fabric of Thailand together. My observations show The King is revered by rich, poor, urban and country Thais. Even the “Reds” and Yellows” will claim allegiance. The King obviously is what bonds Thais together. His place above politics provides Thais with a nationalist symbol and stability in a country which at times titters at the edge of collapse. In a relatively young democracy like Thailand I would suspect that without The King and a reverence of his position there would be little holding the nation together. It is unlikely western ideas of free speech and freedom of expression would fill the vacuum left by King Bhumibol Adulyadej.
The “worst-case scenario”
have found that poem but unfortunately cannot read much Thai. does anyone know where i can find an English translation of it? thank you.
Oranuch on sufficiency economy
Find it interesting that in order to get access to this article, one must pay a fee of $30.00. Seems as if the cost of this propaganda militates against its usefulness as well as the SE ideal. Note that the following artcle, which preceds Khun Oranuch’s, is also available: “Faculty virtue and research capacity-building in the context of poorly funded universities: the case of the Royal University of Phnom Penh”, Ann Brooks ;Ly Monirith, Pages 83 – 98 . . . so near, yet so far . . .
Oranuch on sufficiency economy
The sufficiency Economic is just one in a thousand propaganda agendas this country has to accept. The rich want the poor to be always poor. Who does not want to be rich? The purpose of life is working hard and getting rich. For those who really want to know the truth about this country, you must open your eyes and your brain, you will be able to see the illusion in front of you.
Bangkok or bust, Part 1
Moe Aung
“The Burmese villages, partly because of the peculiarly rapid tendency of the Burmese to resort to violence, had always had a higher proportion of criminal types than was usual in the East.”
(An excerpt from The Penguin History of the Second World War)
Burmese are a violent martial race. For thousands of years they built Burma by wars, not diplomacy or trade. War and violence is in their blood. So they finally lost their country to the English, much stronger and more violent foe.
Thais are a peaceful merchant race. They built Siam by trades, diplomacy, and smooth integration of migrants especially a large inflow of Chinese. Negotiations and compromise are in their blood. That’s why Siam has never been colonized.
Race riots are very common in Burma while Thais have never experienced one of Burmese scale.
I have written for NM the following essay in 2008, if you have forgotten already.
http://www.newmandala.org/2008/08/04/the-horror-of-political-violence-in-burma/
“History will not forgive us…”
Moe Aung
Both Burmese Army and CPB are two great institutions born out of land and founded by Bo-Gyoke Aung San.
The day the arch enemies Burmese Army and CPB recognize each other’s right to existence and make peace will be the day Burma returns to normality and ends the long suffering of her people.
Not the day ASSK gaining power as an elected leader as both CPB and Army will never accept her peoples’ government. And the civil war and violence will go on forever.
Xiaowan filling and the Mekong
The underlying reason as to why the discussion becomes acrimonious is because the issue has been transformed from the water of the Mekong River to international security affairs. While some people attempt to scientifically probe the root cause of the drought, others are trying to manipulate the issue to create tension in order to disrupt the military cooperation between China and ASEAN countries. The difference in purpose has caused the contested argument.
The best solution for this situation is to probe the problem with scientific methods while reinforcing military cooperation for an extended deterrence to prevent a major war.
“…due to the sensitive nature…”
Through Hotspotshield itwas able to be watched finally. Put video settings on auto.
Sufficiency economy gurus
Response to John Ferquest#4 above:
This is actually a very good list for improvements needed for public safety. If we were to analyze it in terms over public oversight and agencies, can you imagine whether there are actual rules regarding these things and that agencies were created that were assigned oversight, but then how many agencies have failed to do their job in Thailand? This certainly adds fuel to those arguing that Thailand is becoming a failed state.
“…due to the sensitive nature…”
Agree with Ngnandeelag,although myself being British,I am fed up paying the UK TV licence fee,when I am left having to rely on getting my news from online sites like Prachatai.com,New Mandala,Giles Ungpakhorns Blog ect, as those at the BBC don’t like to upset Royal personages.(even though its the truth!).What IS the matter with them?
Oranuch on sufficiency economy
SE philosophy(philosophy?) come out by the mouths of the richs and good wealth persons(especially, The Richest King). They treat and urge a social reponsibility to the lower-class to do somethings they can’t do by themselves. It’s just a reflection of nostaglia vision not too good to call it Philosophy. By the way, the Lese Majeste law can close your mouth or take someone to jail if we just talk about it in the negative way to the public.
RIP ma’ freedom
“History will not forgive us…”
There are much more differences between the Russian revolution and Redshirt contributions on time.
This journal can’t make the real point of similarities between Thai monarchy and Tzars system. It’s usually have many problems, especially the misconception, when we explain the same word on the very different historical contexts suchs as the words Capitalism, Feudalism or Liberalism.
Russian feudalism before the revolution has very strong oppression to a low-class in many ways – economics, politics even religion. Other than that, it had social crisis during world war II. But Thai modern monarchy have adapted and hide under the mask of “Father of the Land” or “The Kind King” which control ingeniously to the Thais by the best 24-hour propaganda in every places.
In this way, I think the normal persons can’t make the real conclusion from this journal – what is the relations to Thai society. We need more practical and more radical(and the most important NOT EXPENSIVE!)journal to improve the Red shirt contributions.
Bangkok or bust, Part 1
[…] the propriety of these rituals within the Brahmin community in this newspaper article, and in this extended description of the protests, which includes a discussion with the Brahmin at the center of the ritual. One can also read about […]
The “worst-case scenario”
#somtom plara and Anon
According to the forecast in the poem by the holy Resi Ling Dam, Thailand will have a woman PM in the post king Bhumibol era. PM number 29 will be a woman. This woman will lead Thailand to justice, fairness, and prosperity. By that time, Thailand will no longer a poor country. The overall forecast is fun (and surprisingly factitious) to read. If my reading is correct, we are at the line where it says ‘the land is divided into two’.
Bangkok or bust, Part 1
Hla Oo
You may have overlooked the level of bitterness and anger involved in the Burmese situation over a very long period of time, not that I condone mob violence. Perhaps too keen to portray ordinary Burmese as imherently violent and as bad as the military thugs, at every opportunity. Do I sense a common thread in your postings?
Do we get to see pictures of people in detention and under interrogation, unmarked and well treated, in Burma? I don’t know about Thailand. But hardly fair jumping to conclusions and making a sweeping generalisation from one picture. Call yourself a patriot!
“History will not forgive us…”
Hla Oo
Sounds like you are a double agent! Heard of PTG and seen some articles in the Khitpyaing (New Era) Journal. Curiouser and curiouser.