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I read and re-read that second paragraph – trying to decide which of two meanings is intended.

1) That military intervention is necessary to deal with the corruption of Southeast Asian (civilian) governments – e.g. advertised core reason for the September 2006 coup being to “end the Thaksin government’s corruption”

2) That the military leaders are themselves corrupt and will naturally gravitate to where they can profit more (cf. Sutton’s Law – “Why do I rob banks? Because that’s where the money is……” )

According to Pasuk/Sungsidh’s study “Corruption & Democracy in Thailand”, military governments in Thailand have historically been significantly more corrupt than the civilian ones – though it should be stressed that the difference is only a matter of degree.

This writer Nongnut Singhadecha is strongly biased against Thaksin. Her work should be taken with a grain of salt.

So it is ok to undermine an Asian government:
1) The government is determined to be a government that treat the minority with atrocity described .
2) All the innuendos and assumptions that have not been proven or worst the results of the same westerner useless careless interferences.
Questions:
1) What have you 3 achieved besides false bravados that you think you could be proud of?
2) Is your zeal truly based on serving the down trodden?
3) Do you realize the consequences of your acts that might just bring more atrocious acts that you claim to base your actions on?
4) Do you fantasize regularly Myanmar is a Banana Republic that will fall because of your help for the factions?
5) Do you think bringing down this government will cease all these atrocities that mentioned?
History 101
The animosity between the Kareni and Burman NEVER existed until the British “divide and conquer technique” started it all.
Now as unpaid bleeding heart mercenaries and white you folks have not come too far.
Mercenary : “Person primary concerned with rewards, material or otherwise, at the expense of ethics”.
I don’t see you_all teaching any defensive martial arts to the Aborigines or the Native american in Australia and USA to right the centuries of wrong. So tell me again “Why are you in Myanmar in violation of the country immigration law”?
Rod
You will make a true revisionist if you are proven to have read any concise history about Myanmar at all. From your retort you certainly have not. Then again your website says it all http://www.rodpower.net/
International court? If you truly believe in this “Justice will prevail” what are you doing breaking the law? Can’t have it both way man.
Dave
You responded because truth hurts. You ought to be ashamed of your self for teaching brother to kill brother.
I know Crusoe is a scottish.
Common man don’t you think you are taking it too far?
All those photos on your web site and still denying what you denied. http://dangerousdaveeverett.com/
Incidentally my “nom de guere” is meant to make you think beyond your Plan A that has not been working for the past 2 decades. You folks really should think about why.
The truth is people like you are in it for yourself. Using the familiar “Bash-A-Junta” strategy.
Let’s have New mandalaтДв take a poll “Whether people like you help with the cause of changing the present situation in Myanmar over all”
I say NO.

The first paragraph is totally acceptable to me. At least it is true for Thailand.

However, the second one is more problematic. Some says it is because of the US influence back in ~ B.E. 2500. Sarit and subsequent governments have received enormous support from America. Fighting communism in SEA countries comes with a cost of military dictatorship.

Torture LKY style

Read Robert Ho experience with Singapore tyrannical regime,
read after the pictures somewhat after the middle of the page

http://i-came-i-saw-i-solved-it.blogspot.com/search/label/LIE%20KY%20scratched%20my%20car%20S%242800%20to%20repair

Platitudes, maybe, but enough assumed ideological power to make the Democrat government spend taxpayers’ money on distributing 999,999 copies of it in the way of small calenders (or was that 9,999,999?).

plan B,

Earlier this year I ALSO found myself in a different area of Burma than Dave Everett. Doing my humble best to undermine the Burmese regime by helping to train anti-government soldiers.
I hope that what myself and other foreigners contribute to the resistance pays off in a higher SPDC body count.

Like Dave and the others, I wasn’t paid to be there, so calling us mercenaries is way off the mark. Look at it as personal foreign diplomacy with an aggressive bent.

But I won’t be writing a book. (Little inside joke there)

PlanB: I normally do not bother commenting to people who hide behind a anonymous name. However, in this instance I feel it is worth pointing out a few inconsistencies in your diatribe.

1A.. Where, either in this thread, my book or indeed on my web site have I ever said that it was ok to kill “Burmese”? In fact I have not seen it said anywhere and by anybody on here that it is ok (other than you). That is the first factual matter you have alluded to that is incorrect (I do not think that you have actually read my book or you would not be saying this).

B. Your use of the word “Burmese” here only goes to highlight your racist attitude towards ethnic minorities in Burma and people of other ethnic backgrounds. I was under the belief, correct me if I am mistaken, that successive Burmese military regimes (read dictators) have encompassed the mantra that all citizens of Burma are “Burmese”? Can you please define this for me and other readers of this thread. Did you in fact mean to say “Burman’s” instead of “Burmese”?

C. Your reference to “trained killers”. Aren’t the troops of the tatmadaw trained killers too? Many of them are certainly extremely good at butchering, raping, torturing and abusing unarmed civilians.
Australian soldiers are trained to kill combat personnel, not butcher, rape and torture unarmed civilians. In the Australian army we carry our own equipment and supplies into battle, we do not round up innocent civilians and force them into being porters. In the Australian army we clear mine field with mined detectors we do not herd civilians in front of us to clear them. All of this is well documented by people other than myself and you should be ashamed of yourself to say otherwise. This has occurred continously since the military seized power. I can supply you with links to a large number of human rights groups who have a myriad of documented cases for your perusal.

2. The “attitude” you talk of is from fellow human beigns who will not stand idly by and watch an injustice done to a fellow human beign, regardless of ethnicity, colour, religion or beliefs. It is not a bigoted one eyed approach to the appaling state of affairs in the country, but simply people stating that what is happening to the Burmese people at the behest of a military dictatorship is not right. If you find this unpalatable I believe you need to make a serious assessment of what you see as right and wrong.

2B. The “xenephobic” attitude you are talking about is very real. You flatter me with your belief that I have influence over the way the leaders of tatmadaw think and act. The leadership is only worried about consequences for themselves if civilian rule came to Burma. It is their own self interest that they are worried about, it has got nothing to do with foreigners. They are simply scared to give up power as they will be held accountable for their actions by the civilians of Burma. The “xenophobic” attitude is just a copout for them not having to face justice.

3. The tatmadaw has no equivelant of the SAS.

b. For what reason (if say they did have an equivelant unit) would one of these come to Australia and act in the manner you have described? The Australian military does not:
1. Force Australian citizens into slave labour;
2. Run the country as a military dictatorship (it is answerable to the elected civilian government);
3. Murder, rape and torture Australian citizens it protects and serves;
4. Forcibly removes civilians from their homes and places them into concentration camps;
5. Use civilians as human mine sweeper;
6. Forcibly conscript child soldiers;
7. Does extort money from Australian civilians;
8. Does not feed its troops amphetamines before they go into battle.

I could go on, but you get my point. There is no comparison. You have simply highlighted the fact that Australian’s are free to choose and Burmese are not. Again I will re-iterate my earlier point that there is no “boasting” involved by myself, it simply points out the sad fate of the citizens of Burma (who have no tatmadaw connections to curry them favour) and the fact that you have not read my book.

4. Please conter the “lies” line for line, both myself and no doubt every reader of this thread would be most interested.

5. Your racist attitude is very apparent in your diatribe. Any person with any degree of education and analytical ability can see right throught you. It is so sad that this attitude is so pervasive throughtout the tatmadaw and you firmly believe that you are the saviours of Burma. Instead, you are the cause of the country’s demise. I pray that one day you and your like minded thinkers
will give the people of Burma a chance to speak for themselves. But, unfortunatelly, at the moment, power come out of the barrel of a rifle
and the tatmadaw hold the majority of them.

““I do, because I can, damn the result because I am the tatmadaw” (does this sound familiar?).

Regards

David Everett

“This year I found myself also in the Karen state of Burma in a different location to that of David and yet thay all still remember the brave Australian soldier who came to fight for freedom and democracy in a land that has one of the worlds worst human rights abuse records”
1) Why is killing Burmese considered “Brave” under the guise of Democracy and freedom by a foreigner who is a trained killer without any condemnation by any none Burmese reader here?
2) Can you see why this sort of attitude make the present government a paranoid, xenophobic one,and the consequences of those characters?
3) Will it look upon favorably if a Burmese equivalent of SAS enter Australia acted similarly and BOAST about it on the net let alone wrote a book filled with self justification?
These question will just make readers here reckon with the ugly facts of “White man know best”.
Not to mention the lies that are stated that I can counter “line by line”.
No Burmese with any sense of Burmese_ness be it pro or anti present regime MUST tolerate this kind of attitude let alone condone these False Bravados!
KNLA is exactly the result of west interference from the very beginning.
Everett and power are just two mercenary that represent the west worst white man attitude of “I do because I can damn the result because I am a westerner”.