Thank you Prof. Ji Ungpakorn for pointing out PAD’s external link.
I feel PAD leadership and organization differ from how ordinary Thai people would go about doing things. Even the Communist Party of Thailand would not dare to mobilize the State Own Enterprises like the State Own Railways and the State Own Electricity, yet the PAD did. They made the Railways Union on strike a month or so ago. And half a year ago, they effectively shut the country from the outside world by closing down both domestic and international airports. Now they want to get rid of the Police Chief and they are pressuring Aphisit to do so.
Reading Germany’s history during 1928-1933, I see the parallel between PAD’s ideology and organization and the emergence of the NAZI party at the time: seizure of the State, control of the elites and the masses. What do you think?
ASEAN will do precisely nothing about this, as usual. The bogeyman Burma is just an idea they palm off cheaply on their own slave populations. The only thing most Thai politicians know about Ayutthaya is when they last played golf there with some Burmese general and how much they made out of the resulting deal.
Well it almost certainly a load of bollox from PAD, since I have yet to hear a Thai politician, businessman or leader who spoke anything else – Ji included.
Ji is probably spending too much time down at his local discussing Daily Star articles by the sounds of things.
Greg neutrality, balance or the middle way? White liberal relativist fascism What a-political planet are you on?
Either you are for emancipation and empowerment, which often means rejecting repressive Asian values cultures and traditions to help women and children, or you are a collaborator with forms of dictatorship and domination QED
I think Hilary Clinton, besides her imperial great power authority, was absolutely morally right to suggest expelling Burma from ASEAN . Thailand should stop its complicity and collaboration with a muderous dictatorship, even if it secretly admires that way and especially as a Buddhist spiritual nation led by a Dhammaraja why not set a good example for once ethics and freedom before money politics. After all why do business with “the enemy” Thais still have not forgotten they defeat at Ayutthaya…
Thanks for the estimates, Nick.
I know what you mean about Wat Kaeow Fa, it is full of little pockets in amongst the trees and all – so quite difficult to tell.
In any case, it sounds like the figure is probably in the same range as those functions held at Wat Pakeow in Don Muang, where being in an open field, it was easier to estimate the numbers.
It would be intersting to know, if this crowd was much the same as the Wat Pakeow crowd, or were many there because of it being for Thaksin, or as you point out to “Miss P” for “religeous reasons”?
This might also indicate the size of the “rusted on” UDD constituency as opposed to the “day trippers” and Thaksin followers.
It’s very difficult to state a correct number. At Wat Kaeow Fa it was impossible to guess due to the layout. I arrived at Wat Uthai only late, when many people left already, and different intelligence services gave widely differing numbers – from 4000 to 17 000.
4000 is definitely way too low, when i arrived there were still more than that, and i don’t know what the top number was.
The man whose estimates i usually rely on, and trust in the numbers game, has that day not been at Wat Uthai.
“Miss P.”
At times the religious aspect of this conflict aspect makes interesting images, indeed. The problem though is, that because the polarization of Thai society is not just political and social, but also religious and spiritual, it elevates it into much more dangerous levels than many people realize.
There are aspects that cannot be dealt with rational debate anymore, but happen on a purely emotional level.
Wow, you people seem to have a lot of knowledge about these projects.
I actually have to do a major paper on this project.
My paper topic is “How does the self sufficient economy project help the Thai GDP?”
If anyone could help me with that or even allow me for an interview with you, it would be reallly really helpful.
“There were many elaborate rituals, such as protecting Thaksin, and lifting curses laid by his opponents. One ritual, for example, countered a curse laid by the PAD some time before. Four upturned bowls on a table were, after chanting by four monks, turned around. This was to symbolize the lifting of the spell.”
Where else in the world do politics and magic collide so beautifully?
An extensive coverage again Nick – good work.
You make mention of crowd numbers being in the “thousands” – to add more objectivity to the narrative, do you have any idea how many “thousands”?
Jana Wendt’s ovaries **yearn** for Thaksin. Jeezus, that’s a bit suss. You do know, Ms W, that he’s a Nasty Man, I hope. (Not that I’m rooting – in the non-Australian sense of the term, of course – for the opposition.)
Nice photos, Nick, again. Umm…are they ladyboys? The ones in the tops, I mean.
The TAC is ASEAN’s way of maintaining neutrality. That is a good development for the region.
Often, ASEAN’s ability to maintain peace and stability is highlighted and used as a yardstick for its success. At the same time, human rights abuse committed within the borders of ASEAN member states are ignored under the principle of non-interference.
Personally, I am pleased that there is now a human rights mechanism at the regional level. The same with the ASEAN Charter.
We know these are weak instruments – but can be a starting point.
My concern is that these developments may provide legitimate reasons for ASEAN member states to stall on substantive reforms domestically citing these developments as achievements.
The case in Malaysia is a classic development, where despite the introduction of new human rights mechanism, human rights abuse has actually increased.
Therefore, it will be a glass half full only if citizens of ASEAN use these instruments to move for substantive reforms to strengthen the observation of human rights within borders of ASEAN member states.
“Criminal Court acquits Daranee Charnchoengsilapakul of charges of instigating unrest in the country on Tuesday. However she was fined Bt50,000 on defamation suit. In a separate trial, Daranee is charged of lese majesty.”
So they’re clearing the lesser charge, probably because it would apply to a few PAD leaders, and nailing her to the cross for the LM.
I wonder who she “defamed” in this part of the trial? The kings of France?
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Thank you Prof. Ji Ungpakorn for pointing out PAD’s external link.
I feel PAD leadership and organization differ from how ordinary Thai people would go about doing things. Even the Communist Party of Thailand would not dare to mobilize the State Own Enterprises like the State Own Railways and the State Own Electricity, yet the PAD did. They made the Railways Union on strike a month or so ago. And half a year ago, they effectively shut the country from the outside world by closing down both domestic and international airports. Now they want to get rid of the Police Chief and they are pressuring Aphisit to do so.
Reading Germany’s history during 1928-1933, I see the parallel between PAD’s ideology and organization and the emergence of the NAZI party at the time: seizure of the State, control of the elites and the masses. What do you think?
Now where did I put that $2.37 billion I earned last year…?
ASEAN will do precisely nothing about this, as usual. The bogeyman Burma is just an idea they palm off cheaply on their own slave populations. The only thing most Thai politicians know about Ayutthaya is when they last played golf there with some Burmese general and how much they made out of the resulting deal.
Misplaced solidarity
Well it almost certainly a load of bollox from PAD, since I have yet to hear a Thai politician, businessman or leader who spoke anything else – Ji included.
Ji is probably spending too much time down at his local discussing Daily Star articles by the sounds of things.
ASEAN and Human Rights โ Can they mix?
Greg neutrality, balance or the middle way? White liberal relativist fascism What a-political planet are you on?
Either you are for emancipation and empowerment, which often means rejecting repressive Asian values cultures and traditions to help women and children, or you are a collaborator with forms of dictatorship and domination QED
Now where did I put that $2.37 billion I earned last year…?
I think Hilary Clinton, besides her imperial great power authority, was absolutely morally right to suggest expelling Burma from ASEAN . Thailand should stop its complicity and collaboration with a muderous dictatorship, even if it secretly admires that way and especially as a Buddhist spiritual nation led by a Dhammaraja why not set a good example for once ethics and freedom before money politics. After all why do business with “the enemy” Thais still have not forgotten they defeat at Ayutthaya…
$ufficiency economy
@ Anshu ๐
you’ve arrived at the well of truth on these topics.
Thaksin’s birthday party
Nich
yes about the birthday. I seem to have been a victim of muddled tenses or days
Thaksin’s birthday party
Thanks for the estimates, Nick.
I know what you mean about Wat Kaeow Fa, it is full of little pockets in amongst the trees and all – so quite difficult to tell.
In any case, it sounds like the figure is probably in the same range as those functions held at Wat Pakeow in Don Muang, where being in an open field, it was easier to estimate the numbers.
It would be intersting to know, if this crowd was much the same as the Wat Pakeow crowd, or were many there because of it being for Thaksin, or as you point out to “Miss P” for “religeous reasons”?
This might also indicate the size of the “rusted on” UDD constituency as opposed to the “day trippers” and Thaksin followers.
Thaksin’s birthday party
And in your face
Thaksin’s birthday party
“Regular Reader”
It’s very difficult to state a correct number. At Wat Kaeow Fa it was impossible to guess due to the layout. I arrived at Wat Uthai only late, when many people left already, and different intelligence services gave widely differing numbers – from 4000 to 17 000.
4000 is definitely way too low, when i arrived there were still more than that, and i don’t know what the top number was.
The man whose estimates i usually rely on, and trust in the numbers game, has that day not been at Wat Uthai.
“Miss P.”
At times the religious aspect of this conflict aspect makes interesting images, indeed. The problem though is, that because the polarization of Thai society is not just political and social, but also religious and spiritual, it elevates it into much more dangerous levels than many people realize.
There are aspects that cannot be dealt with rational debate anymore, but happen on a purely emotional level.
$ufficiency economy
Wow, you people seem to have a lot of knowledge about these projects.
I actually have to do a major paper on this project.
My paper topic is “How does the self sufficient economy project help the Thai GDP?”
If anyone could help me with that or even allow me for an interview with you, it would be reallly really helpful.
Can someone? Please?
Thanks A lot,
Anshu
Thaksin’s birthday party
“michael”
Most definitely female of the first category. That is the look preferred in the better Thai places – light skinned, skinny, loooong legs.
And noses.
Thaksin’s birthday party
“There were many elaborate rituals, such as protecting Thaksin, and lifting curses laid by his opponents. One ritual, for example, countered a curse laid by the PAD some time before. Four upturned bowls on a table were, after chanting by four monks, turned around. This was to symbolize the lifting of the spell.”
Where else in the world do politics and magic collide so beautifully?
ahh, god bless thailand.
Thaksin’s birthday party
An extensive coverage again Nick – good work.
You make mention of crowd numbers being in the “thousands” – to add more objectivity to the narrative, do you have any idea how many “thousands”?
Thaksin’s birthday party
Jana Wendt’s ovaries **yearn** for Thaksin. Jeezus, that’s a bit suss. You do know, Ms W, that he’s a Nasty Man, I hope. (Not that I’m rooting – in the non-Australian sense of the term, of course – for the opposition.)
Nice photos, Nick, again. Umm…are they ladyboys? The ones in the tops, I mean.
ASEAN and Human Rights โ Can they mix?
Hi Jana, Michael,
Thanks for raising these issues.
The TAC is ASEAN’s way of maintaining neutrality. That is a good development for the region.
Often, ASEAN’s ability to maintain peace and stability is highlighted and used as a yardstick for its success. At the same time, human rights abuse committed within the borders of ASEAN member states are ignored under the principle of non-interference.
Personally, I am pleased that there is now a human rights mechanism at the regional level. The same with the ASEAN Charter.
We know these are weak instruments – but can be a starting point.
My concern is that these developments may provide legitimate reasons for ASEAN member states to stall on substantive reforms domestically citing these developments as achievements.
The case in Malaysia is a classic development, where despite the introduction of new human rights mechanism, human rights abuse has actually increased.
Therefore, it will be a glass half full only if citizens of ASEAN use these instruments to move for substantive reforms to strengthen the observation of human rights within borders of ASEAN member states.
Comparative politics
Speaking of Torpedo–
Nation (Tuesday):
“Criminal Court acquits Daranee Charnchoengsilapakul of charges of instigating unrest in the country on Tuesday. However she was fined Bt50,000 on defamation suit. In a separate trial, Daranee is charged of lese majesty.”
So they’re clearing the lesser charge, probably because it would apply to a few PAD leaders, and nailing her to the cross for the LM.
I wonder who she “defamed” in this part of the trial? The kings of France?
Thaksin’s birthday party
Rentamonk!
Comparative politics
Form of intellectual slavery either way.
http://hi-thaksin.net/
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