Whatever you say Ralph#11! You take the “high”, I’ll take the “low” – sounds like a popular dice game…
My preference is the latter option I wrote in #10 “a quiet peaceful protest in front of Da’s cell” to show support. No need to mess with the law…
I can think of two things that come with this billboard making: sycophancy and self-interest. In the days when Prem was prime minister, a billboard extolling his virtues was put up wherever he went, usually at the instigation of some high official of the Ministry of Interior who expected to gain the prime minister’s favor. Very often, too, a politician who wishes to garner popularity has billboard makers put up signs on roadsides describing his good deeds. Some MPs in Songkhla do this quite a lot. You can only visit Songkhla to get material evidence. And of course, Songkhla is one place where Prem’s virtues are recorded on a lot of roadside billboards. One billboard maker gleefully told me confidentially that he had to pay some 5-10-per cent kickback to local political bosses, but that it was worth it—it was a lucrative business indeed and unlikely to fade out.
Real Demon: I deliberately left out foreign universities because I believe they act in good faith when they award an honorary degree to a foreign potentate, e.g., for the cause of good international relations, and not out of a desire for sycophancy. But your mentioning of an honors degree reminds me of a Thai youth with an honors degree from a reputable British university who has demonstrated that academic performance and political performance are indeed two separate things.
Adherents to an occult belief usually fall easy preys to exploiters. Countless examples of these can be found among Thai citizens, alot of them Buddhists who are victims of some crooked monks. It seems to be a universal human phenomenon.
We have heaps of these high flyers .Many of them are interviewed by
Thai magazines of the secret of their successful life,plus showing thier threasure i.e brand name watches,bags,shoes ,suits etc.But …why we are in such a bad shape .They are only in the newspaper and magazines .
I can assure you that the CPB has changed its policies on how it deals with land (not all of it, but the valuable chunks) since the 1997 crisis, when they brought in new managers. Their job was to ensure better value and returns from the land.
If you log on to the CPB’s website you’ll see both pop-ups on their latest clawbacks and you’ll see the CSR stuff on how they deal with increasingly worried tenants.
You can also look at the current battle at the Fort to see real details of what they do.
I’m sorry Sidh, but I found your comment low. Apologies don’t help if this is a tactic you intend to engage in repeatedly. Thanks for your unsolicited advice on how to support Darunee. Let me get this right, you think the red leadership should shoot up the place and storm the prison? Interesting but undoubtedly not what wiser political heads would suggest.
Knowing how even minor elites (i.e. just plain rich people) get preferential treatment in Thailand, I doubt those degrees/honors are worth much at all as an indicator (even if well-deserved).
It would be more interesting to look at degrees Thai elites have from *reputable* foreign universities, as well as their other achievements outside of Thailand.
Given how H.M. is with no doubt intellectually brilliant and gifted in many diverse areas, it would not be surprising at all for his descendants to have high academic acchievements.
Too bad that the system of unquestioning sycophancy prevents the true recognition of their talents.
Thanks Ralph #6. Nich already clarified the banning matter in #4 which I am fine with. Otherwise I wrote what I thought and my apologies if you are really personally concerned for Da’s plight and well-being. I believe there are many ways to directly help and express support without flirting with LM (e.g. you, Ralph, can start a donation account to support any family dependent on her income – same for Suwicha).
I am sure someone here will be attending the Red Rally this weekend, let’s see what words and actions they have for Da. Will they go as far as shooting an M79 into a court building as someone (I will not blame the Red here – could be a Third Hand, right?) did during the Red Songkran Riot? Or alternatively, a quiet peaceful protest in front of Da’s cell just to show support.
If none of the above happens, I stick to my view that Da is merely another worthless pawn, for both Thai and foreign agents alike.
No Ralph#26, I don’t have an MBA and I am interested to hear from someone with one on the matter.
What I can offer here (apart from what the Forbes, a capitalist bible/magazine, reported upon which we basing our comments), is only an anecdotal experience as an architect working in Bangkok in the mid-90s. We had a client who wanted to renovate his house built on a 200wah2 (800m2) CPB plot in LangSuan, a prime location. What I was told by the client and my boss then was that owning a CPB lease was little different from owning the plot outright. The client was only paying a few hundred baht lease per month, a rate unchanged for the many decades he lived there.
Another anecdote, an upperclassman involved in the SuanLum Night Bazaar project which sits on another CPB plot and has been used as a cadet training school for years told me, almost 10 years ago, that it is an army department who is benefiting from the land lease deal for the night bazaar more than the CPB. I’ve read recently that TycoonCharoen (of Chang Beer) has recently won the rights to redevelop that land and understand that the CPB was directly involved in negotiations and will directly benefit this time.
blogskeptic seriously thinks Darunee wants to run the country? Then equates her with Thaksin. That’s about as meaningless a line as comparing homeowners in Australia with the largest land-owning conglomerate in Thailand.
The short article didn’t provide the background on the intellectual property issues.
Western countries and particularly the US have foisted an intellectual property regime on lesser developed countries that don’t have the scientific and legal infrastructure in place to protect their legal rights.
This was the case in an earlier Jasmine rice patent case in which a US scientist sought to develop a US variety of Jasmine rice:
In the article, the King recognises the important contribution the researchers have made and the researchers recognise the King’s contribution of moral and spiritual leadership and support. Different from the West but really pretty simple.
United States Patent 7,319,181
Vanavichit , et al.
January 15, 2008
Transgenic rice plants with reduced expression of Os2AP and elevated levels of 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline
Abstract
The aromatic compound 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline-is the major potent flavor component of all aromatic rice. This present invention provides transgenic rice plants in which 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline is synthesized at a level greater than in naturally occurring non-aromatic varieties. The transgenic plants have reduced expression of the Os2AP gene and protein, resulting in an aromatic phenotype.
I would also add that Thailand has long been benighted by “passionate and brainy” people. Such a pity also that such brilliance always turns to shit, because they become so blinded by their own magnificence that they can no longer see the REAL issues – if they ever knew them at all, from their over-privileged ivory towers.
Da Torpedo is about the last person I would want running this country. Her biggest problem, which also rubs her up wrong with the entrenched elite, is that she has all their own arrogance and ambition. In effect, just another loud mouth monomaniac with a slave-owning mentality. We’ve been down that route before. Thaksin used to act so humble, but we soon found that he was completely in it for the aggrandisement of himself and his awful clan. I suspect Da is exactly the same. I would rather go looking for someone who is prepared to work gradually and steadily for a better future rather than just bully people and look for a fight. Also, I would prefer someone who is prepared to run on a real socialist agenda. Pheua Thai can’t do this, because it is basically only an agency of the Shinawatra clan and its greedy followers-on
Srithanonchai: It is a packed website at DOPA. Do you have a more detailed link to the document? Would love to read it in detail.
jonfernquest raises a notion that I would never have thought of. That the signs and campaign are really about getting “people to shun the red-shirts until they change their ways and focus on the regional economic issues that really count.” Who would have thought?
Sidh: maybe you can explain what you think the so-called Red Elite should be doing? My understanding is that all of the leaders of the red shirts face their own charges at present and some of them remain outside Thailand. When someone is jailed for LM, friends, family and supporters are scared and/or intimidated. Interestingly, though, even if you are correct about an elite, da torpedo is not forgotten by the red shirt rank and file who circulate her speeches and she is mentioned on the various community radio stations.
Your comments on NM and the call for bans on Abhisit is simply trash talk. You imply a political position that doesn’t exist and smear by implication. That is pretty low.
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Whatever you say Ralph#11! You take the “high”, I’ll take the “low” – sounds like a popular dice game…
My preference is the latter option I wrote in #10 “a quiet peaceful protest in front of Da’s cell” to show support. No need to mess with the law…
The injustice of a closed trial
Glad I rattled your cage, Kramden.
Signs of the Thai state
I can think of two things that come with this billboard making: sycophancy and self-interest. In the days when Prem was prime minister, a billboard extolling his virtues was put up wherever he went, usually at the instigation of some high official of the Ministry of Interior who expected to gain the prime minister’s favor. Very often, too, a politician who wishes to garner popularity has billboard makers put up signs on roadsides describing his good deeds. Some MPs in Songkhla do this quite a lot. You can only visit Songkhla to get material evidence. And of course, Songkhla is one place where Prem’s virtues are recorded on a lot of roadside billboards. One billboard maker gleefully told me confidentially that he had to pay some 5-10-per cent kickback to local political bosses, but that it was worth it—it was a lucrative business indeed and unlikely to fade out.
Royal news, graduations and honours
Real Demon: I deliberately left out foreign universities because I believe they act in good faith when they award an honorary degree to a foreign potentate, e.g., for the cause of good international relations, and not out of a desire for sycophancy. But your mentioning of an honors degree reminds me of a Thai youth with an honors degree from a reputable British university who has demonstrated that academic performance and political performance are indeed two separate things.
ICG on Thailand’s deep south
Adherents to an occult belief usually fall easy preys to exploiters. Countless examples of these can be found among Thai citizens, alot of them Buddhists who are victims of some crooked monks. It seems to be a universal human phenomenon.
Royal news, graduations and honours
We have heaps of these high flyers .Many of them are interviewed by
Thai magazines of the secret of their successful life,plus showing thier threasure i.e brand name watches,bags,shoes ,suits etc.But …why we are in such a bad shape .They are only in the newspaper and magazines .
King Bhumibol’s billions
Sidh, you don’t have to rely entirely on old stories. Porphant Ouyyanont’s article in the Journal of Contemporary Asia (on which the Forbes article relies) goes into some detail on this. Asia Sentinel also carried an article or two a couple of years ago which included some notes on land (http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=402&Itemid=32and http://www.asiasentinel.com/index.php?Itemid=32&id=403&option=com_content&task=view
Wikipedia has some short details. There are also Nation reports on 2004, which talk a bit about property booms.
I can assure you that the CPB has changed its policies on how it deals with land (not all of it, but the valuable chunks) since the 1997 crisis, when they brought in new managers. Their job was to ensure better value and returns from the land.
If you log on to the CPB’s website you’ll see both pop-ups on their latest clawbacks and you’ll see the CSR stuff on how they deal with increasingly worried tenants.
You can also look at the current battle at the Fort to see real details of what they do.
The injustice of a closed trial
I’m sorry Sidh, but I found your comment low. Apologies don’t help if this is a tactic you intend to engage in repeatedly. Thanks for your unsolicited advice on how to support Darunee. Let me get this right, you think the red leadership should shoot up the place and storm the prison? Interesting but undoubtedly not what wiser political heads would suggest.
Royal news, graduations and honours
Knowing how even minor elites (i.e. just plain rich people) get preferential treatment in Thailand, I doubt those degrees/honors are worth much at all as an indicator (even if well-deserved).
It would be more interesting to look at degrees Thai elites have from *reputable* foreign universities, as well as their other achievements outside of Thailand.
Given how H.M. is with no doubt intellectually brilliant and gifted in many diverse areas, it would not be surprising at all for his descendants to have high academic acchievements.
Too bad that the system of unquestioning sycophancy prevents the true recognition of their talents.
The injustice of a closed trial
Thanks Ralph #6. Nich already clarified the banning matter in #4 which I am fine with. Otherwise I wrote what I thought and my apologies if you are really personally concerned for Da’s plight and well-being. I believe there are many ways to directly help and express support without flirting with LM (e.g. you, Ralph, can start a donation account to support any family dependent on her income – same for Suwicha).
I am sure someone here will be attending the Red Rally this weekend, let’s see what words and actions they have for Da. Will they go as far as shooting an M79 into a court building as someone (I will not blame the Red here – could be a Third Hand, right?) did during the Red Songkran Riot? Or alternatively, a quiet peaceful protest in front of Da’s cell just to show support.
If none of the above happens, I stick to my view that Da is merely another worthless pawn, for both Thai and foreign agents alike.
King Bhumibol’s billions
No Ralph#26, I don’t have an MBA and I am interested to hear from someone with one on the matter.
What I can offer here (apart from what the Forbes, a capitalist bible/magazine, reported upon which we basing our comments), is only an anecdotal experience as an architect working in Bangkok in the mid-90s. We had a client who wanted to renovate his house built on a 200wah2 (800m2) CPB plot in LangSuan, a prime location. What I was told by the client and my boss then was that owning a CPB lease was little different from owning the plot outright. The client was only paying a few hundred baht lease per month, a rate unchanged for the many decades he lived there.
Another anecdote, an upperclassman involved in the SuanLum Night Bazaar project which sits on another CPB plot and has been used as a cadet training school for years told me, almost 10 years ago, that it is an army department who is benefiting from the land lease deal for the night bazaar more than the CPB. I’ve read recently that TycoonCharoen (of Chang Beer) has recently won the rights to redevelop that land and understand that the CPB was directly involved in negotiations and will directly benefit this time.
The injustice of a closed trial
blogskeptic seriously thinks Darunee wants to run the country? Then equates her with Thaksin. That’s about as meaningless a line as comparing homeowners in Australia with the largest land-owning conglomerate in Thailand.
Aturan Permainan DominoQQ buat Pemula
The short article didn’t provide the background on the intellectual property issues.
Western countries and particularly the US have foisted an intellectual property regime on lesser developed countries that don’t have the scientific and legal infrastructure in place to protect their legal rights.
This was the case in an earlier Jasmine rice patent case in which a US scientist sought to develop a US variety of Jasmine rice:
http://www.biotech-info.net/jasmine_rice.html
In the article, the King recognises the important contribution the researchers have made and the researchers recognise the King’s contribution of moral and spiritual leadership and support. Different from the West but really pretty simple.
Aturan Permainan DominoQQ buat Pemula
Perhaps this?
United States Patent 7,319,181
Vanavichit , et al.
January 15, 2008
Transgenic rice plants with reduced expression of Os2AP and elevated levels of 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline
Abstract
The aromatic compound 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline-is the major potent flavor component of all aromatic rice. This present invention provides transgenic rice plants in which 2-acetyl-1-pyrroline is synthesized at a level greater than in naturally occurring non-aromatic varieties. The transgenic plants have reduced expression of the Os2AP gene and protein, resulting in an aromatic phenotype.
Aturan Permainan DominoQQ buat Pemula
Thanks meaw,
Great video is available there. I appreciate it. Can anybody point to, say, an entry in a patent library with some evidence of the patent recognition?
Best wishes to all,
Nich
The injustice of a closed trial
I would also add that Thailand has long been benighted by “passionate and brainy” people. Such a pity also that such brilliance always turns to shit, because they become so blinded by their own magnificence that they can no longer see the REAL issues – if they ever knew them at all, from their over-privileged ivory towers.
The injustice of a closed trial
Da Torpedo is about the last person I would want running this country. Her biggest problem, which also rubs her up wrong with the entrenched elite, is that she has all their own arrogance and ambition. In effect, just another loud mouth monomaniac with a slave-owning mentality. We’ve been down that route before. Thaksin used to act so humble, but we soon found that he was completely in it for the aggrandisement of himself and his awful clan. I suspect Da is exactly the same. I would rather go looking for someone who is prepared to work gradually and steadily for a better future rather than just bully people and look for a fight. Also, I would prefer someone who is prepared to run on a real socialist agenda. Pheua Thai can’t do this, because it is basically only an agency of the Shinawatra clan and its greedy followers-on
Signs of the Thai state
Srithanonchai: It is a packed website at DOPA. Do you have a more detailed link to the document? Would love to read it in detail.
jonfernquest raises a notion that I would never have thought of. That the signs and campaign are really about getting “people to shun the red-shirts until they change their ways and focus on the regional economic issues that really count.” Who would have thought?
The injustice of a closed trial
Sidh: maybe you can explain what you think the so-called Red Elite should be doing? My understanding is that all of the leaders of the red shirts face their own charges at present and some of them remain outside Thailand. When someone is jailed for LM, friends, family and supporters are scared and/or intimidated. Interestingly, though, even if you are correct about an elite, da torpedo is not forgotten by the red shirt rank and file who circulate her speeches and she is mentioned on the various community radio stations.
Your comments on NM and the call for bans on Abhisit is simply trash talk. You imply a political position that doesn’t exist and smear by implication. That is pretty low.
Aturan Permainan DominoQQ buat Pemula
the gene that control fragrant in (jasmine?) rice.
http://www.matichon.co.th/news_detail.php?newsid=1245860780&grpid=00&catid=42