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  1. lurker says:

    I just realized something. In 2005, Thaksin was getting very weak because people were accusing him of corruption and his extrajudicial killings in the war on drugs. Yet he still won the 2005 election in a landslide. Despite his falling popularity, what made him so successful in the election? The tsunami.

    Isn’t that convenient? Thaksin’s popularity was falling drastically, yet the tsunami lets him portray himself as a strong and decisive leader. Here’s what I think: Thaksin used his cambodian voodoo black magic to cause the tsunami! He knew that such a crisis would kill thousands, but he also knew that it would give him the boost he needed to win the elections. Isn’t this so typical of Thaksin’s ruthless ways?

    He already shewed that he was willing to kill thousands of innocent villagers in the drug war. Do you really think he would have any conciounse about killing thousands of innocent seaside villagers in order to win the 2005 elections? The more I think about it, the more the facts link up. This has to be true.

  2. […] Nicholas Farrelly at the New Mandala blog wonders if there is any political intrigue behind the leaking of the video Real questions remain about the video’s appearance on the Internet, and its relationship to power politics within the Burmese regime’s inner-circle. If anybody has any potential answers, don’t be shy about posting comments. It would be great to get some discussion going on Burma’s military elite and the implications of this video. Preetam Rai […]

  3. Pum says:

    It’s one of the rumors I’ve heard from this coup. I have no comment on the validity or truth of it.

  4. Thanakarn says:

    Am I too late to joint in the fray?
    I have been reading the arguments/posters in this thread nearly daily. And one fact strike out that everybody seem to miss out. I wondered why there was not one drug lord reported killed during Thaksin’s Y2003 anti-drugs campaign. The only ones killed where mainly innocent villagers or small-time ya ba runners or addicts.

    My guesses:
    (1) The drug lords were the police mafia itself . .and the police-hicks were just killing any small time unknowns to collect Thaksin’s bounty; or

    (2) The drug lords are known to the police and the whole anti-drugs campaign was merely to shake down these drug lords for big bucks . . money going into the crooked police/TRT kitty; or

    (3) The Police Department are just made up of a bunch of crooked inepts and idiots who have no clue at all who the drug lords are . . but they have to meet the body count quota demanded by Thaksin and just blacklisted and shot any one who looked suspicious; or

    (4) All of the above

  5. […] Paul Handley, the author of this year’s most important book on Thailand, The King Never Smiles, has a short┬ article in Asia Sentinel.┬ In today’s contribution, Handley asks, “Who gets the kingdom’s sceptre when Bhumibol leaves the stage?”┬ While not fully answering his own question, Handley does argue that: The coup was about Thaksin’s ambition and misrule, certainly, but what really got General Sonthi Boonyaratklin and his cohorts to move was the issue of succession to the throne. There was a clear meeting of minds between the crown and the military, through King Bhumibol Adulyadej’s number one aide Prem Tinsulanonda, that they did not want Thaksin in a position to exert influence on the passing of the Chakri Dynasty mantle to Crown Prince Vajiralongkorn. […]

  6. Vichai N says:

    To Frustrated . . . don’t be!

    At its simplest . . Thaksin as Prime Minister was a monster who won’t go! He murdered thousands (extrajudicial killings Y2003) just to show he can be above the constitution. He went on a corruption spree that academics estimated costed Thailand at least Baht 400 billion . . which went to the pockets of Thaksin and his cronies. And Thaksin won’t accept to be accountable as demanded by constitutional ethiquette. Conflicts of interest in family business transactions in that Shin-Temasek deal, and still Thakin won’t submit to asset/corruption scrutiny of any kind. Thaksin’s Ineptitude worsened the Southern situation and muslim discontent. More ominously, Thaksin was then dividing the Kingdom in a dangerous game of ptting the rurals against the urbans as he clung on to power.

    In short this abusive man Thaksin Shinawatra had lost his mandate to rule . . and even that Apr2nd election he called specifically to evade scrutiny was later on ruled illegal and plunged the Kingdom to a constitutional mess.

    Thaksin clearly won’t go . . he had to protect his illgottens and the many crimes committed during his rule.

    General Sonthi had to do his patriotic duty to save the nation. The End.
    —–
    But take heart Frustrated: Whereas Thaksin was intent on demonstrating his extrajudicial powers to kill thousands, the junta under General Sonthi had taken every precautions to prevent any false arrest or extrajudicial abuse.

    No wonder the people of Thailand applauds General Sonthi the Saviour and condemned Thaksin the Extrajudicial Executioner.

  7. Vichai N says:

    Patiwat/Paundit: Who are deluding themselves about the extrajudicials?

    —————-
    In a December 4, 2003 television and radio broadcast, King Bhumibol stated: “I have to say this because the Prime Minister announced victory yesterday . . . . I know the Prime Minster does not like warnings, because warnings can be irritating . . . . As for the criticism of the 2500 deaths . . . who will take responsibility . . . ? The Prime Minister was denounced for waging war and causing 2500 deaths . . . . Most deaths were killings between drug producers and traffickers themselves, yet there may be a certain number which officials are
    responsible for. Try asking the Police Chief to specify how many . . . . Then announce, so the [Thai] people will know, so foreigners will know . . . . ” Excerpt from the remarks of H.M. King Bhumibol Adulyadej, December 4, 2003.

    ———————-
    The first day of the campaign, February 1, saw four killings. By February 5, six people had been shot dead, and a week later the death toll stood at eighty-seven. Fifteen days into the campaign, the Interior Ministry announced that 596 people had been shot dead since February 1, eight of them by police “in self-defense.”

    The deaths of alleged drug dealers, both those killed by police and those killed by others, were included in a February 17 report of the Ministry of the Interior informing the government about the progress of the campaign. The government actively publicized the deaths on state-controlled television and radio as well as in newspapers, claiming that drug dealers were killing their peers to prevent them from leaking information to authorities.

    The police’s unwillingness to investigate these deaths, combined with the unusually high
    number of drug-related homicides compared to years past, cast doubt on the credibility of the government’s story. Medical professionals complained that they were not being allowed to perform autopsies and that bullets were being removed from victims.

    The head of Thailand’s Forensic Sciences Institute noted that, unlike before the war on drugs, the police were not seeking the Institute’s help in differentiating so-called gangland killings from extrajudicial executions.

    On February 24, 2003, just over three weeks into the drug war, the United Nations special rapporteur on extrajudicial, summary or arbitrary executions, Asma Jahangir, expressed “deep concern at reports of more than 100 deaths in Thailand in connection
    with a crackdown on the drug trade.”

    In fact, Thailand’s Interior Ministry had the day
    before reported the deaths of 993 suspects, 977 of which they attributed to “gangland killings.”

    Jahangir called for strict limits on the use of lethal force by police, consistent with international law, as well as prompt, transparent, and independent investigations into each individual death. Prime Minister Thaksin retorted, “Do not worry about this.
    The U.N. is not my father. We as a U.N. member must follow international regulations. Do not ask too much. There is no problem. They can come and investigate.”

    Human Rights Commissioner Pradit Chareonthaitawee spoke out against the drug war,
    saying, “People are living in fear all over the kingdom.” But when Pradit presented cases
    of human rights violations to the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights (UNHCHR) in February 2003, Thaksin called his behavior “ugly” and “sickening” and questioned his authority to communicate with the United Nations.

    Pradit received threats of impeachment by a spokesman of the ruling Thai Rak Thai party as well as anonymous telephone calls on March 5 and 6 telling him to “stop speaking to the United
    Nations or die.”

    Throughout the drug war, government agencies charged with investigating extrajudicial killings and other human rights abuses lacked either the independence or the capacity to carry out full and impartial investigations. According to a March 3, 2003 fact sheet on the war on drugs prepared by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Thai government on
    February 28, 2003, appointed two committees to monitor the implementation of its narcotics policy. The first, chaired by the secretary-general of the Office of the Narcotics Control Board, Police Lieutenant General Chidchai Vanasathidya, was
    assigned to monitor police conduct during the drug war. The second, chaired by
    Attorney General Wichian Wiriyaprasit, was responsible for protecting informants,
    witnesses, and those who turned themselves in to the authorities. The fact sheet contained guidelines for investigating extrajudicial killings and stated that “in discharging their duties, law enforcement officials have been instructed to strictly observe the provision of the Criminal Code, which authorizes the use of lethal force only for self-defense.”

    By April 1, 2003, with over 1,000 people dead, the Royal Thai Police had not forwarded any reports to the Attorney General’s investigating committee. The committee had requested that all reports be sent by the previous March 28. It was only on April 28, by
    which time close to 2,000 people had been killed, that the police sent information to the committee. The committee proceeded to establish ten subcommittees to investigate the deaths. In November 2003, Amnesty International reported that “it appears that in most cases investigations have not been completed and that therefore no one has been found responsible for the killings or brought to justice.”

    Amnesty International was not able at that time to obtain specific information about the progress of investigations.

    TO MAKE LONG STORY SHORT – THE POLICE INVESTIGATED THEMSELVES, THEY TOOK THEIR TIME INVESTIGATING AND SAT ON THE INVESTIGATION . .. .. ZZZZZZZ

  8. fall says:

    With economic situation like this (flood, rise in exchange rate, martial law), expect more government spending to be announce.

  9. fall says:

    Same problem with building damn.
    Good idea, lacking in compensation planning.

    Sure, RFR expo is beneficial to ALL farmer, but at the cost of Northern farmer? Well, I guess compensation will come later after the mood is sour, as always.

  10. Frustrated says:

    To Khun Vichai N,

    Your words
    “So don’t wonder Pundit why General Sonthi’s coup was approved by the majority of the Thai population whom their expressions have not been suppressed by the coup’s martial laws ” you seem to omit the last phrase.

    It appears to me that the king in your view was very na├пve on this matter and he basically believed what Thaksin reported. Where were his advisors? Where were all the super privy councillors? The sarcastic tone in his speech that you mentioned was absolutely not against the government’s war on drugs but aimed at the people who oppose that policy. Abusive behaviours of any kind must not be tolerated in this country or anywhere else on earth, no matter whether they come from royals or others. Abusive people should be punished if proven guilty. Every life is important, whether it be 2500 lives or 65 million lives, there should be justice for all. The Junta and people who support the abuse of 65 million Thai should be brought to justice. It is obvious that what they are doing is not in the interest of Thailand even though a few Thai may like and support what they are doing because of self interest or stupidity. If you can’t tolerate abusive behaviour of some policemen during the war on drugs policy of the elected government, how can you tolerate global abusive policies by the junta?

  11. chris white says:

    Hi Andrew

    I’ve got a story about ‘local electoral culture’ to do with the 2004 campaign. But its a bit too mundane – nothing salacious really. Its just a story of the local Mahachon candidate being driven around and introduced by the head man of the tambon.

    However, concerning all this stuff about vote buying; have you come across William Callahan’s article ‘The Discourse of Vote Buying and Political Reform in Thailand” published in Public Affairs Vol 78 No 1 2005?

    It’s quite an interesting read.

  12. patiwat says:

    Vichai, it’s OK if you insist on deluding yourself, but stop spreading lies. The office of the attorney general investigated the extrajudicial killings. Since there were over 2,000 cases, their work was slow, just like the junta’s investigative work. But INVESTIGATIONS DID FOLLOW.

    It’s OK for you to “believe” that the King was “horrified.” If you insist on deluding yourself, there’s nothing I can do about it. But these aren’t my words, they are the Kings: “р╣Др╕нр╣Йр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Кр╕▒р╕вр╕Кр╕Щр╕░ р╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Ыр╕гр╕▓р╕Ъ р╣Др╕нр╣Йр╕вр╕▓тАЛр╣Ар╕кр╕Юр╕Хр╕┤р╕Фр╕Щр╕╡р╣ИтАЛ тАЛр╕Фр╕╡р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Ыр╕гр╕▓р╕ЪтАЛ тАЛр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зтАЛр╕Бр╣Зр╕Чр╕╡р╣ИтАЛр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓тАЛр╕Хр╕│тАЛр╕лр╕Щр╕┤р╕Ър╕нр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓тАЛ тАЛтАЛр╣Ар╕нр╣Йр╕втАЛ р╕Др╕Щр╕Хр╕▓р╕втАЛ тАЛр╕Хр╕▒р╣Йр╕ЗтАЛ р╣Т,р╣Хр╣Рр╣Р тАЛр╕Др╕ЩтАЛ тАЛр╕нр╕░тАЛр╣Др╕гр╕Щр╕▒р╣Ир╕Щ… тАЛр╣Ар╕гр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕ЗтАЛр╣Ар╕ер╣Зр╕БтАЛ р╣Т,р╣Хр╣Рр╣Р тАЛр╕Др╕ЩтАЛ тАЛр╕Цр╣Йр╕▓тАЛр╕Щр╕▓р╕вр╕Бр╕птАЛ тАЛр╣Др╕бр╣ИтАЛр╣Др╕Фр╣ЙтАЛр╕Чр╕│тАЛ тАЛр╕Щр╕▓р╕вр╕Бр╕птАЛ тАЛр╣Др╕бр╣ИтАЛр╣Др╕Фр╣ЙтАЛр╕Чр╕│тАЛ тАЛр╕Чр╕╕р╕Бр╕Ыр╕╡тАЛ тАЛр╣ЖтАЛ тАЛр╕Ир╕ФтАЛр╣Др╕зр╣ЙтАЛр╕Щр╕░тАЛ тАЛр╕бр╕╡р╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓тАЛ р╣Т,р╣Хр╣Рр╣Р тАЛр╕Др╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Хр╕▓р╕втАЛ тАЛр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Хр╕▓р╕втАЛр╕Чр╕▒р╣Йр╕ЗтАЛр╕Др╕Щр╕Чр╕╡р╣ИтАЛр╣Ар╕кр╕Юр╕Хр╕┤р╕ФтАЛ тАЛр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зтАЛр╕Бр╣Зр╕Вр╕╢р╣Йр╕Щр╣Др╕ЫтАЛ тАЛр╕Жр╣Ир╕▓р╕Др╕ЩтАЛ тАЛр╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нтАЛр╕Чр╕│тАЛр╕нр╕░тАЛр╣Др╕гтАЛ тАЛр╣Ар╕Ьр╕▓р╕нр╕░тАЛр╣Др╕гр╕Хр╣Ир╕▓р╕ЗтАЛ тАЛр╣ЖтАЛ тАЛр╕гр╕зр╕бтАЛр╕Чр╕▒р╣Йр╕ЗтАЛр╣Ар╕Ир╣Йр╕▓р╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Чр╕╡р╣ИтАЛр╕Хр╣Йр╕нр╕ЗтАЛр╣Др╕Ыр╕Ыр╕гр╕▓р╕Ър╕Ыр╕Бр╕Хр╕┤тАЛ тАЛр╕Бр╣Зр╕Хр╕▓р╕вр╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╣Ар╕лр╕бр╕╖р╕нр╕ЩтАЛр╕Бр╕▒р╕ЩтАЛ тАЛр╣Бр╕Хр╣ИтАЛр╣Др╕бр╣ИтАЛр╕Юр╕╣р╕ФтАЛр╣Ар╕Чр╣Ир╕▓тАЛр╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕ЩтАЛр╣Ар╕нр╕ЗтАЛ тАЛр╣Др╕бр╣ИтАЛр╣Др╕Ыр╕Щр╕▒р╕ЪтАЛ…….

    р╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зтАЛр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Ър╕нр╕БтАЛ р╣Т,р╣Хр╣Рр╣Р тАЛр╕Др╕ЩтАЛ тАЛр╕Щр╕╡р╣И р╕Бр╣ЗтАЛр╣Др╕бр╣ИтАЛр╣Ар╕Кр╕╖р╣Ир╕н тАЛ тАЛр╕бр╕╡р╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╕Бр╕зр╣Ир╕▓тАЛ тАЛр╕Чр╕╡р╣ИтАЛр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓тАЛр╕Хр╕▓р╕вр╣Бр╕Хр╣ИтАЛр╣Ар╕гр╕▓тАЛр╣Др╕бр╣ИтАЛр╕гр╕╣р╣ЙтАЛ тАЛр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зтАЛр╕Бр╣Зр╕Юр╕зр╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Чр╕▓р╕Зр╣Ар╕Ир╣Йр╕▓р╕лр╕Щр╣Йр╕▓р╕Чр╕╡р╣ИтАЛр╣Др╕Фр╣ЙтАЛр╕кр╕▒р╕Зр╕лр╕▓р╕гтАЛ тАЛр╣Др╕бр╣ИтАЛр╣Гр╕Кр╣ИтАЛ р╣Т,р╣Хр╣Рр╣Р тАЛр╕Щр╕╡р╣ИтАЛр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓тАЛр╕кр╕▒р╕Зр╕лр╕▓р╕гтАЛр╕Бр╕▒р╕ЩтАЛр╣Ар╕нр╕ЗтАЛ тАЛр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зтАЛр╕Щр╕╡р╣ИтАЛр╣Ар╕гр╕▓тАЛр╕Ир╕░тАЛр╕гр╕▒р╕Ър╕Ьр╕┤р╕Фр╕Кр╕нр╕ЪтАЛр╣Др╕Фр╣ЙтАЛр╕нр╕вр╣Ир╕▓р╕Зр╣Др╕гтАЛ тАЛр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓тАЛр╕Фр╣Ир╕▓р╕зр╣Ир╕▓тАЛ тАЛр╕Щр╕▓р╕вр╕Бр╕птАЛ тАЛр╕Чр╕│тАЛр╕кр╕Зр╕Др╕гр╕▓р╕бтАЛ тАЛр╕Чр╕│тАЛр╣Гр╕лр╣ЙтАЛр╕Др╕Щр╕Хр╕▓р╕втАЛ р╣Т,р╣Хр╣Рр╣Р тАЛр╕Др╕ЩтАЛ тАЛр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бтАЛр╕Ир╕гр╕┤р╕ЗтАЛр╣Др╕бр╣ИтАЛр╣Гр╕Кр╣ИтАЛр╕нр╕вр╣Ир╕▓р╕ЗтАЛр╕Щр╕▒р╣Йр╕ЩтАЛ р╣Т,р╣Хр╣Рр╣Р тАЛр╕Др╕ЩтАЛ тАЛр╕бр╕▒р╕Щр╕лр╕бр╕ФтАЛр╕Чр╕▒р╣Йр╕ЗтАЛр╕лр╕бр╕ФтАЛ тАЛр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓тАЛр╕Щр╕▒р╕Ър╣Бр╕Хр╣Ир╕зр╣Ир╕▓тАЛ тАЛр╕Юр╕зр╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Хр╕▓р╕втАЛр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕ЩтАЛр╕кр╣Ир╕зр╕ЩтАЛр╣Гр╕лр╕Нр╣ИтАЛ тАЛр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕ЩтАЛр╕Юр╕зр╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣ИтАЛр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓тАЛр╕Жр╣Ир╕▓тАЛр╕Бр╕▒р╕ЩтАЛр╣Ар╕нр╕ЗтАЛ тАЛр╕Юр╕зр╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Др╣Йр╕▓тАЛ тАЛр╕Юр╕зр╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Ьр╕ер╕┤р╕ХтАЛ тАЛр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓тАЛр╕Жр╣Ир╕▓тАЛр╕Бр╕▒р╕ЩтАЛр╣Ар╕нр╕ЗтАЛтАЛр╕Ир╕│тАЛр╕Щр╕зр╕Щр╕бр╕▓р╕БтАЛ тАЛр╕Чр╕╡р╣Ир╕Чр╕▓р╕Зр╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Бр╕▓р╕гтАЛр╕Ир╕░тАЛр╕гр╕▒р╕Ър╕Ьр╕┤р╕Фр╕Кр╕нр╕ЪтАЛ тАЛр╕Бр╣Зр╕нр╕▓р╕ИтАЛр╕Ир╕░тАЛр╕бр╕╡р╕Ир╕│тАЛр╕Щр╕зр╕Щр╕лр╕Щр╕╢р╣Ир╕ЗтАЛ тАЛр╕Бр╣Зр╕ер╕нр╕Зр╕Цр╕▓р╕бр╕Чр╕▓р╕ЗтАЛр╕Ьр╕╣р╣ЙтАЛр╕Ър╕▒р╕Нр╕Кр╕▓р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Хр╕│тАЛр╕гр╕зр╕Ир╣Бр╕лр╣Ир╕Зр╕Кр╕▓р╕Хр╕┤тАЛ тАЛр╣Др╕Ыр╣Бр╕вр╕БтАЛ тАЛр╕Ир╕│тАЛр╣Бр╕Щр╕БтАЛр╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕ЩтАЛр╣Ар╕Чр╣Ир╕▓тАЛр╣Др╕гтАЛ тАЛр╕Бр╣ЗтАЛр╣Ар╕Кр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕зр╣Ир╕▓тАЛр╣Гр╕ЩтАЛ р╣Т,р╣Хр╣Рр╣Р тАЛр╕Щр╕╡р╣ИтАЛ тАЛр╕бр╕▓р╕Бр╕Чр╕╡р╣ИтАЛр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓тАЛр╕Жр╣Ир╕▓тАЛр╕Бр╕▒р╕ЩтАЛр╣Ар╕нр╕ЗтАЛ тАЛр╣Бр╕ер╣Йр╕зтАЛр╕Бр╣ЗтАЛр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бтАЛр╕Ьр╕┤р╕Фр╕Вр╕нр╕ЗтАЛр╣Ар╕Вр╕▓тАЛ тАЛр╕бр╕▓тАЛр╣Вр╕вр╕ЩтАЛр╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бтАЛр╕Ьр╕┤р╕ФтАЛр╣Гр╕лр╣ЙтАЛр╕Чр╣Ир╕▓р╕Щр╕Лр╕╣тАЛр╣Ар╕Ыр╕нр╕гр╣Мр╕Щр╕▓р╕вр╕Бр╕п”

    It wasn’t just the King that condoned Thaksin approach. A poll conducted in February 2003 revealed 92% of respondents backed Thaksin’s “ruthless” approach.

    Of course, that doesn’t make Thaksin’s approach correct, or moral, or even legal. But by portraying it as something it was not, Vichai, you’re deluding yourself.

  13. Vichai N says:

    Ahhhh …Pundit your lame attempts to remain naive about Thaksin’s extrajudicial slaughter of thousands of Thai villagers begin to annoy.

    HMK I believed was utterly horrified at the thousands killed during Thaksin’s extrajudicial rampage and at the international outrage that followed. Thaksin reported to HMK that “many” were killed by drug dealers fighting among themselves. And HMK in his Dec/03 speech repeated I believe ,with some tone of sarcasm, what Thaksin reported but demanded in the same breath that Thaksin should investigate reported extrajudicial police killings alleged by human rights groups. BUT NO INVESTIGATION FOLLOWED and to this date those extrajudicial killings have not been investigated.

    But of course the coup was justiied Bangkok Pundit! We are removing an extrajudicial mass murderer. Thaksin was fomenting division and provoking civil disorder in his attempts to cling to power. Thaksin had completely subverted constitutional checks & balances. Thailand was mired in deep constitutional mess following the Apr2nd election later on judicially ruled as illegal. AND THAKSIN was intent to cling on to power indefinitely and was most likely on the point of doing a Ferdinand Marcos on Thailand (his own coup) but was thwarted by General Sonthi’s timely coup.

    So don’t wonder Pundit why General Sonthi’s coup was approved by the majority of the Thai population.

  14. nganadeeleg says:

    Basically Thaksin allowed a 3 month period of rampant killing where eveyone caught up in the killing was labelled a drug dealer.

    To Pundit & Sick – think youselves lucky you were not on the list (hit list)

  15. sick of this says:

    Remember how the junta had complained that Thaksin’s populist marketing gimmics (e.g., healthcare, megaprojects) were expensive and unneccesary? Well, here’s their response:

    Govt set to unveil 5 rapid rail lines
    Spending will mirror that announced by last administration

    The national mass-transit development plan, to be put to the Cabinet tomorrow, will include five rapid rail routes. The government will open the rail extensions to bidding early next year.

    Deputy Prime Minister and Finance Minister MR Pridiyathorn Devakula told the National Legislative Assembly last week that spending on the rail routes would mirror that announced by the overthrown Thaksin Shinawatra administration.

  16. sick of this says:

    They were drug dealers. Worse than murderers. They deserved to die.

    That article said they many were shot immediately after giving evidence incriminating their drug dealer friends. I think they were killed by their fellow drug dealers.

  17. Vichai: You state that Thaksin killed 2500 people, but HM the King said in reference to the 2500 number that “[m]ost of them were killed by their accomplices”. So who is correct, you or HM the King? I am questioning the numbers you are citing.

    I have already repeatedly stated that I am against the killing of people by the police when it is not in self-defence. I have no problem with any such person being prosecuted. What is not clear about this?

    Since you say that the coup was justified and not within the “rule of law”, does this mean you are for the “rule of law” in some cases and not for others? Or does that mean you were simply for the rule of law before you were against it? So the ends justifies the means. I am sure anyone who shot a drug dealer would make the same argument that it was not within the “rule of law” to kill the person, but it is still “justified”.

  18. Vichai N says:

    Bangkok Pundit – 2,500 innocent defenseless villagers slaughtered by specific orders of Thaksin Shinawatra in that senseless Y2003 anti-ya ba campaign and on form Pundit you cannot bring yourself to condemn Thaksin Shinawatra. That was MASS MURDER Pundit! There was absolutely no justiication to murder those villagers, and to be ordered and directed by Thailand’s Prime Mnister Thaksin Shinawatra himself make the crimes more horrific and abhorrent! And yet Bangkok Pundit will NOT condemn Thaksin Shinawatra.

    Bangkok Pundit if you will condone Thaksin Shinawatra for his murders, you will condone anything else that Thaksin had inflicted upon the Thai people. You even try to diminish Thaksin’s culpability in those murders. And I suspect Bangkok Pundit, if Thaksin Shinawatra asked you to, you will even be willing to bury those murdered to cover up for his crimes.

    About your questions (#19) nganadeeleg already explained that HMK Bhumibhol certainly disapproved of the extrajudicial murders and I won’t even have to google on this because it just does NOT make sense that HMK Bhumibhol would condone mass murders of his loyal subjects.

    About your question on whether General Sonthi’s coup was within the rule of law? But of course not and that answer should have been obvious. But was General Sonthi’s coup justified? – Yes it was.

  19. cheeky says:

    Saluting to the nation, religion, and the king. There must be no Military State, Police State.

    Greeting to my respected fellow countrymen. The cause of my second life scarification by destroying my own life, and not to damage any property (his taxi car) like my first attempt is to react to the insulting statement announced by the Vice Speaker of the Evolution Council (the Junta group) to many newspapers that:

    = No one will be with such a strong idealology to sacrifice his own life=

    In my first life sacrification attempt, I admitted that my speed calculation in driving my taxi was wrong. The tank parked at the Royal Plaza on the edge of Rajdamnern Nok road. I drove my taxi passing the Army Headquarters and other pedestrian ways and it needed an S curve turn which had reduced a lot of my car speed even though I was planning a serious and direct crash to the tank. That’s why I was only seriously injured, 5 ribs were broken, my eyes bruised and my chin crashed inside my mouth. I had been cured at Vajira hospital. The group of Kru Prateep Hata (Former Senator) and her colleague and many other groups paid me many visits. A reporter interviewed me and asked me that, don’t you feel comfortable that the take over is peaceful and bloodless? I answered him that if there’s anyone breaking the law and creating unrest. It must be handled by law.

    There were many implicit plots (about the coup) in the recent past and now the secrets of the persons (who are behind the coup) are almost completely exposed. This is a strong slap to the face of the people shamelessly. But there isn’t any press dare to reveal. Even my news of driving my taxi to hit directly to the tank was only printed in the press just one day, and then disappeared from the public. I was admitted to Vajira hospital for 13 days and the doctor allowed me to go back home. He’d also brought for me the newspapers reporting my tank hitting news for me to read.
    But I have seen the interviewing report of the vice speaker of the Kor Por Kor (the junta) in such an insulting manner as that. So I have to respond to his insulting speech. It is a common manner to us the Thai that, Kill me you may can, but insulting me you can’t. My other reason to choose the last day of October to be my life scarification day is because this month is the month that our country passed away heroes for democracy (October 14, 1973 democracy uprising in Thailand) whose spirits were peacefully rest at this Monument of October
    (He initially planned to hang himself there) where I’ll scarify my life. So I can stay there together with those heroes who have scarified their lives for democratic society in Thailand forever. I declare both of my actions strongly with my whole heart that, nobody hired me to do. I did them with my own heart and feeling. Lastly, May my children and wife be proud of their father and husband. Do not feel bad. In our next life we should be born and see no more of any coup d’etat again.

    Sign: Mr.Nuamthong Praivan

    P.S. May I correct the news that reported of a bottle founded in my taxi after my tank crashing incident. It is a supplementary food capsule of Chinese herb called Pae Guay leaf. It’s not any stress relieving medicine as reported in the newspaper at all. I was not stressed . I just wanted to protest this hideous dictator.

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    In Thai

    р╣Ар╕Чр╕┤р╕Фр╕Чр╕╣р╕Щ р╕Кр╕▓р╕Хр╕┤ р╕ир╕▓р╕кр╕Щр╕▓ р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕бр╕лр╕▓р╕Бр╕йр╕▒р╕Хр╕гр╕┤р╕вр╣М

    р╕гр╕▒р╕Рр╕Чр╕лр╕▓р╕гр╕Хр╣Йр╕нр╕Зр╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕бр╕╡ р╣Бр╕ер╕░ р╕гр╕▒р╕Рр╕Хр╕│р╕гр╕зр╕Ир╕Хр╣Йр╕нр╕Зр╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕бр╕╡

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