(Sorry for my bad english)
Don’t know about the tribs in the north but in the deep south no tribs problems, we have the Saka├п but it’s other problems they are not farmers. Tha├п people cut forest like Hell for rubber tree. 2 months ago people told me it was more expensive to produce rubber than bfit when thzy sell it.
No national politics about rubber production, everybody go for it because it was easy money and less work than rice.
And like they do for the tea, for the rice,…. They cut all and don’t care at all about the biodiversity. Just have a look in Loe├п district what they did to grow corn. In some decades they will have no fertile area anymore all are going away with the rain and go in the river until Kon kean and more far.
Somethg has to be done that is sure !
Look how much Laos lost his forest, look what’s going on in Indonesia,…..
They don’t have a clue about the environmental impact of what they do…
I study it for me since 18 months go to villages, temple, met politicians,…. some lnow they don’t know how to do and where to start, some know but they don’t care at all and some still don’t know anythg about it.
Have a look what they did around the lake of Bang Lang in Yala. They cut all for rubber tree……
Maybe army has got bigger plans but look this last decades how much the Thai forest vanish…… Again, something has to be done in all south-est Asia.
Anwar has emasculated himself by his arrogant and childish refusal to accept that he is out of politics and he has yet to name
a successor. The ‘Chameleon’ continues to provide different faces to different people.
UMNO hardly needs to discredit PKR, since Anwar does a fine job himself. You can only recycle unfair trials and illegal detentions so much; few dispute the illegality of Anwar’s treatment by Mahathir and UMNO, but many dispute his cynical use of such treatment to curry voters and maintain
a myth surrounding himself. One only need look at his innumerable roles, to say simply, there is nobody in Malaysia, who actually know what Anwar thinks at any given time. Prime Minister Najib’s poor leadership and reversals on so many issues (e.g., jihadism) does not make Anwar look any better, it only merely confirms that both Najib and Anwar lack leadership skills of any merit.
Another reason: BN has an overwhelming fear of Anwar Ibrahim so it pays cybertroopers to denigrate Anwar Ibrahim any time they can! As for emasculation, look no further than to Najib and wife Rosmah.
Forest evictions of minorities like the Lahu and Karen appears to be the current regime’s number one target for land confiscation. The Royal Forest Department (RFD) seems to be concentrating their efforts on the hill tribe minorities who have practiced sustainable farming in the highlands for generations, and are avoiding confiscating land from the wealthy Thai capitalists who illegally make use of National Park lands in the Mae Hong Song area to practice monoculture farming for profit.
“Karen minority complains on junta’s ‘return forest’ policy”, posted October 15, 2014
mmnn… I’m not sure, but it seems to me that, while this interpretative thesis is plausible; even if it is true, it doesn’t actually rule out interpreting the 12 links as applicable to experience and samsara as a whole, since the process of rebirth is, to certain extent, occurring in every moment. Each of the 12 links is, I believe (in my limited understanding) a part of momentary experience, arising and passing away.
As such, the idea that we ought to limit our understanding to the formation of consciousness in the womb just seems to be inconsistent with other Buddhist doctrine.
I mean, I’m not sure, but it just seems like if we are too strict or narrow in our interpretation, and try too much to stick to the letter of the text, then we risk moving away from the spirit of the dhamma.
Thanks for this. If anybody can point to an online source for this coverage I would be very interested to learn more.
Earlier in the year I had the pleasure of watching Nick Nostitz hold court, in his robust Thai, on one of the channels that is broadcast across the border to Myanmar. That segment was based on his New Mandala coverage of the Laksi gunfight.
Would be very curious to see more details on how this more recent New Mandala material was reported.
That will be the very last of these comments that we let through. If you can’t or won’t turn discussion to substantive matters then you will, as you know, find your further comments unwelcome.
These comments just show, yet again, that we do go out of our way to offer a forum for all points-of-view. But we also need to draw a line somewhere when it comes to repetition.
Yes – I also saw the discussion on Thai TV last night. Quite amazing. My Thai is passable at best so I don’t want to offer any in depth translations of what was said other than to broadly endorse the mariner’s description above.
It’s appeared on other webpages too, the emphasis being on the “keyboard warrior” tone of the attacks on some of those posters who have an opinion that does not support the majority NM view, irrelevant as that actually is given the number of posters. WordPress has a blog showing the entire thread and highlighting the venomous posts which don’t even refer to the discussion but are pure personal attacks without substance.
I’m not sure why you should be astonished, it was bound to happen. FB was shut down for a few hours some time ago as a warning shot across the bows not to misinform; posts pro and anti government WERE AND STILL ARE allowed on that site. Seems they have waited for NM to dig a big hole for themselves with the personal attacks which don’t contribute to the debate but are purely vexatious and mischievous. If WordPress has that information, clearly the government has too.
But don’t take my word for it, review all the posts (unfortunately not those which the owners have suppressed because they don’t agree with the views expressed – mine are in that category – and which you therefore cannot see.)
I don’t agree with much this government is doing but I don’t use under the belt comments to make personal attacks
Disagree as much as you like but the attacks on a few posters are not doing NM any good at all.
The voting system here may be interesting but it is relatively unimportant. No decisions are going to be made here based on our majority opinion! This is simply a place for discussing ideas under the auspices of an academic institution and all that really matters are the views and arguments presented. You could even take pleasure in finding yourself in a minority here and use the opportunity to ruffle our feathers and disturb the conformity of our opinions with the potency of your argument. So when are you going to post one?
If you are really interested, look up Michael Herzfeld’s work on “cryptocolonialism”. Thailand is one of his main countries of interest but it’s easy to see the similarities with Greece, Iran, concessions in China, Bhutan, Sikkim, and Denmark’s relations with Iceland.
No-one is objecting to posts being moderated. The objection seems to be on the bias.
You and your co-founder hold doctorates and read,I asume most of the posts – enough anyway to get a sense of how the forum is being used. You can see the flaming and provocation that is taking place towards certain individuals. You can see some are given free rein.
That’s been my experience too. The voting system attacks posters and not messages. Many of my posts have been deleted and almost all are voted down. That does not apply to most of the posts, many of which are of a flaming nature, by those that are supporting what one could be called the NM line.
You seem to have been attacked and provoked by one particular poster, and his posts were of course moderated and let through.
We delete comments, or slow down their publication, when certain voices are clogging up the discussion. You’ve had your say and now it’s time to let others make their responses. Think of New Mandala as a rolling, years-long seminar. It would be dull if all we heard were the same voices, with the same points, again-and-again. Your fresh contributions will (probably) be welcome.
In the long-run, you all tend to get a fair opportunity to be involved. We also very openly call for contributions. We even have a habit of publishing complaints, such as yours, to help reinforce the message that we aren’t hiding from scrutiny.
Our long-term practice has been to moderate this forum — which has hosted well over 50,000 comments over the last eight plus years — so that repetitive point-scoring is discouraged. Those commentators who operate within that very loose framework usually find that they can happily debate ideas and issues here for years on end.
There’s really no use for non-NMites to make comments or responses to excuses, diatribes, and badgerings from ensconced NMites – they’d be moderated and then deleted as were a few of my posts.
Freedom of expression; of course. Give me a serving of it.
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Forest evictions under Prayuth?
(Sorry for my bad english)
Don’t know about the tribs in the north but in the deep south no tribs problems, we have the Saka├п but it’s other problems they are not farmers. Tha├п people cut forest like Hell for rubber tree. 2 months ago people told me it was more expensive to produce rubber than bfit when thzy sell it.
No national politics about rubber production, everybody go for it because it was easy money and less work than rice.
And like they do for the tea, for the rice,…. They cut all and don’t care at all about the biodiversity. Just have a look in Loe├п district what they did to grow corn. In some decades they will have no fertile area anymore all are going away with the rain and go in the river until Kon kean and more far.
Somethg has to be done that is sure !
Look how much Laos lost his forest, look what’s going on in Indonesia,…..
They don’t have a clue about the environmental impact of what they do…
I study it for me since 18 months go to villages, temple, met politicians,…. some lnow they don’t know how to do and where to start, some know but they don’t care at all and some still don’t know anythg about it.
Have a look what they did around the lake of Bang Lang in Yala. They cut all for rubber tree……
Maybe army has got bigger plans but look this last decades how much the Thai forest vanish…… Again, something has to be done in all south-est Asia.
PKR MPs on tour down under
Anwar has emasculated himself by his arrogant and childish refusal to accept that he is out of politics and he has yet to name
a successor. The ‘Chameleon’ continues to provide different faces to different people.
UMNO hardly needs to discredit PKR, since Anwar does a fine job himself. You can only recycle unfair trials and illegal detentions so much; few dispute the illegality of Anwar’s treatment by Mahathir and UMNO, but many dispute his cynical use of such treatment to curry voters and maintain
a myth surrounding himself. One only need look at his innumerable roles, to say simply, there is nobody in Malaysia, who actually know what Anwar thinks at any given time. Prime Minister Najib’s poor leadership and reversals on so many issues (e.g., jihadism) does not make Anwar look any better, it only merely confirms that both Najib and Anwar lack leadership skills of any merit.
PKR MPs on tour down under
Another reason: BN has an overwhelming fear of Anwar Ibrahim so it pays cybertroopers to denigrate Anwar Ibrahim any time they can! As for emasculation, look no further than to Najib and wife Rosmah.
Forest evictions under Prayuth?
Forest evictions of minorities like the Lahu and Karen appears to be the current regime’s number one target for land confiscation. The Royal Forest Department (RFD) seems to be concentrating their efforts on the hill tribe minorities who have practiced sustainable farming in the highlands for generations, and are avoiding confiscating land from the wealthy Thai capitalists who illegally make use of National Park lands in the Mae Hong Song area to practice monoculture farming for profit.
“Karen minority complains on junta’s ‘return forest’ policy”, posted October 15, 2014
http://www.prachatai.com/english/node/4408
Unpopular facts about one of Buddhist philosophy’s most popular doctrines
mmnn… I’m not sure, but it seems to me that, while this interpretative thesis is plausible; even if it is true, it doesn’t actually rule out interpreting the 12 links as applicable to experience and samsara as a whole, since the process of rebirth is, to certain extent, occurring in every moment. Each of the 12 links is, I believe (in my limited understanding) a part of momentary experience, arising and passing away.
As such, the idea that we ought to limit our understanding to the formation of consciousness in the womb just seems to be inconsistent with other Buddhist doctrine.
I mean, I’m not sure, but it just seems like if we are too strict or narrow in our interpretation, and try too much to stick to the letter of the text, then we risk moving away from the spirit of the dhamma.
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
Thanks for this. If anybody can point to an online source for this coverage I would be very interested to learn more.
Earlier in the year I had the pleasure of watching Nick Nostitz hold court, in his robust Thai, on one of the channels that is broadcast across the border to Myanmar. That segment was based on his New Mandala coverage of the Laksi gunfight.
Would be very curious to see more details on how this more recent New Mandala material was reported.
Best wishes to all,
Nich
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
Thanks Mattowenrees,
That will be the very last of these comments that we let through. If you can’t or won’t turn discussion to substantive matters then you will, as you know, find your further comments unwelcome.
These comments just show, yet again, that we do go out of our way to offer a forum for all points-of-view. But we also need to draw a line somewhere when it comes to repetition.
Best wishes to all,
Nich
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
Yes – I also saw the discussion on Thai TV last night. Quite amazing. My Thai is passable at best so I don’t want to offer any in depth translations of what was said other than to broadly endorse the mariner’s description above.
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
It’s appeared on other webpages too, the emphasis being on the “keyboard warrior” tone of the attacks on some of those posters who have an opinion that does not support the majority NM view, irrelevant as that actually is given the number of posters. WordPress has a blog showing the entire thread and highlighting the venomous posts which don’t even refer to the discussion but are pure personal attacks without substance.
I’m not sure why you should be astonished, it was bound to happen. FB was shut down for a few hours some time ago as a warning shot across the bows not to misinform; posts pro and anti government WERE AND STILL ARE allowed on that site. Seems they have waited for NM to dig a big hole for themselves with the personal attacks which don’t contribute to the debate but are purely vexatious and mischievous. If WordPress has that information, clearly the government has too.
But don’t take my word for it, review all the posts (unfortunately not those which the owners have suppressed because they don’t agree with the views expressed – mine are in that category – and which you therefore cannot see.)
I don’t agree with much this government is doing but I don’t use under the belt comments to make personal attacks
Disagree as much as you like but the attacks on a few posters are not doing NM any good at all.
Thai Police: Intent to reform?
Time Magazine: “Thai Dictator Faces Ire Over Bungled Investigation Into Murder of British Tourists”
http://time.com/3512541/thailand-koh-tao-murder-hannah-witheridge-david-miller-2/
Thai Police: Intent to reform?
Koh Tao Murders: “How can the country progress if it will not accept the truth?”
http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2014/10/the-koh-tao-murders-how-can-country.html
The international petition for an independent investigation into the Koh Tao murders now has more than 93,000 signatures.
Yet another black mark for Thailand on the international stage.
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
The voting system here may be interesting but it is relatively unimportant. No decisions are going to be made here based on our majority opinion! This is simply a place for discussing ideas under the auspices of an academic institution and all that really matters are the views and arguments presented. You could even take pleasure in finding yourself in a minority here and use the opportunity to ruffle our feathers and disturb the conformity of our opinions with the potency of your argument. So when are you going to post one?
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
Astonished to just see new Mandala cited in the 6 o clock propaganda offering of Thai TV.
Blaxford’s piece (see above) was enthusiastically held out as some sort of affirmation that Prayuth is indeed not just another coup maker.
We were treated to screenshots of the article and reminders that the cite was connected to Australian academics.
All rather funny, really.
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
Hi Matt,
Most of your comments seem to be critical of what you perceive to be the viewpoint of the average New Mandala readers and the voting system.
Could you point to one contribution you have made on this thread that is aimed at debating the issues raised by the article and its critics ?
Thanks,
JL
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
If you are really interested, look up Michael Herzfeld’s work on “cryptocolonialism”. Thailand is one of his main countries of interest but it’s easy to see the similarities with Greece, Iran, concessions in China, Bhutan, Sikkim, and Denmark’s relations with Iceland.
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
a few mattowenrees quotes:
“You folks won’t take advice, you’re following like sheep.”
“You’re being led by people who are not in Thailand and who won’t be held to account. You really are sheep.”
“Well, you do that all the time and the sheep listen to you.”
To me it seems you have been given quite a bit of free reign here…
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
No-one is objecting to posts being moderated. The objection seems to be on the bias.
You and your co-founder hold doctorates and read,I asume most of the posts – enough anyway to get a sense of how the forum is being used. You can see the flaming and provocation that is taking place towards certain individuals. You can see some are given free rein.
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
That’s been my experience too. The voting system attacks posters and not messages. Many of my posts have been deleted and almost all are voted down. That does not apply to most of the posts, many of which are of a flaming nature, by those that are supporting what one could be called the NM line.
You seem to have been attacked and provoked by one particular poster, and his posts were of course moderated and let through.
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
Thanks “notdisappointed”,
We delete comments, or slow down their publication, when certain voices are clogging up the discussion. You’ve had your say and now it’s time to let others make their responses. Think of New Mandala as a rolling, years-long seminar. It would be dull if all we heard were the same voices, with the same points, again-and-again. Your fresh contributions will (probably) be welcome.
In the long-run, you all tend to get a fair opportunity to be involved. We also very openly call for contributions. We even have a habit of publishing complaints, such as yours, to help reinforce the message that we aren’t hiding from scrutiny.
Our long-term practice has been to moderate this forum — which has hosted well over 50,000 comments over the last eight plus years — so that repetitive point-scoring is discouraged. Those commentators who operate within that very loose framework usually find that they can happily debate ideas and issues here for years on end.
Best wishes to all,
Nich
Thailand’s Prayuth: Not just another coup-maker
There’s really no use for non-NMites to make comments or responses to excuses, diatribes, and badgerings from ensconced NMites – they’d be moderated and then deleted as were a few of my posts.
Freedom of expression; of course. Give me a serving of it.