I am Sanjay Khilari, from Bombay, India. I would like to travel Myanmar from Bangladesh by Road. Please can you tell me What is the procedure ! I hope Myanmar govt. help me this tripe and visa . What is the procedure of Visa. It will take me from India or I will get in High Commission of Myanmar in Bangladesh. My dream is to travel by road to Bangladesh, Myanmar, Laos and Thailand and back to India by plane. So plz. guide me. Thanking You, …. Sanjay.
The reference to Burma is also not much better, but I forgive him, since he is just a young student who probably cannot read or speak Burmese and the history of Burma is a lot older than the history of the USA (if you begin with European settlements there)
What ever happened to the “fearless” Peau Thai Party or Red Shirt leaders including Thaksin, Yingluck, Chalerm, Jatuporn and many others?
Are there rampant torture and mass disappearances among the Reds or Thaksin followers? Jaidee and Jim Taylor rant so loudly but without conviction nor any real proof.
Yep, Indonesia has had a lot of issues in the past few years. Last year, in fact, the Rupiah was the worst performing currency in all of ASEAN. Lots of manufacturing still moving over there, though. And for what it’s worth, stocks are pretty undervalued.
The reference to Thailand in this article ought to have been excised before the piece was posted. It is cursory, ill-informed (on the matter of how Washington is, for better or worse, approaching the current regime in Bangkok), and intellectually sloppy. The sloppiness lies in the author’s failing to ask himself how durable the project of the Queen’s Guard dictatorship is likely to be.
Interesting piece. Most of the Burmese hilltibe people and other non-Thai minorities leaving in Thailand have a special status that allows them to stay in Thailand as stateless persons within their districts. They get pink IDs that state on the back that they cannot leave the district without permission. I understand that statelessness is a condition of this status and it is logical that these people would want to hide their Burmese ID cards, if they have them, or risk losing their special dispensation to stay in Thailand.
“Thai truck driver charged with having a Burmese citizenship card at home, as dual citizenship is not allowed”. This is a different case. I can well believe this type of extortion happens in border areas but in practice Thai citizenshp citizenship can only be revoked from naturalised Thais, if they have resided overseas for 5 years continuously using their former nationality or, if they have been convicted of a serious criminal offence like drug dealing. It can only be done by order of the Interior Minister after a long, convoluted process that can only be initiated by Special Branch, not ordinary police. In recent years it has happened rarely and particularly since the establishment of the Administrative Court, due to concern at the Interior Ministry that revocation cases could result in law suits there. The last revocation announced in the Royal Gazette took place several years ago. If the truck driver was Thai from birth, there is no provision in the Nationality Act to revoke his Thai citizenship.
You and I differ only on the mean to the same end.
The reason being ‘Buddhism’ that make Myanmar Myanmar.
Take Buddhism away and any change will eventually end up as History has shown, a sure “Cambodia’s killing fields”. U NU has tried to incorporate/enlist Buddhism as part of the socialist state.
Keenly aware of the rural needs, with successful “Pyithawtha” program. Unfortunately the military and other political factions as well as the insurrections supported by the west and China truncated his effort.
Moving on, Myanmar is now where the latter 3 are more or less eliminated.
The good General Prayuth would be well-advised to be more inclusive, than the very narrow power-base his NLA is currently built upon – i.e. built upon his Burapha Payak military faction, Suthep’s forces – and little else.
Where’s the Wongtheyan military faction in this ? To say nothing of the Crown Prince’s well-paid, well-armed Isarrn and Lanna troops, recently highlighted in a report by The Economist.
If Prayuth genuinely wants to unite the Kingdom, perhaps he should listen to more Carabao !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjgnxBc3eZs
plan B, On the surface, never have you uttered a truer word than what you just did:
“Once the urban and rural realize the available equity in material and freedom denied/taken away the change will arrive.”
The realisation is ancient history, the change on the other hand needs, like you said just before, force/compulsion. That’s where the snag is. The people lack the means to topple the military yoke, and true it won’t be forthcoming from the West. But not because it’s “useless, careless”, but because of shrewd calculations factoring in entrenched power “reforming” and the bottom line of becoming amenable and open to international capital.
In most cultures, 20 men armed with machine guns, beating down three unarmed men outside a nightclub over a personal gripe would be considered a shameful and cowardly criminal attack that would earn the perpetrators some serious jail time.
However this is Thailand, so instead, our fearless and morally immaculate prime minister has ordered a ‘disciplinary probe’ and ‘urged’ the badly beaten victims and the violent and obviously highly dangerous perpetrators to ‘talk’.
Hmmm, its obvious that our fearless leader has approached this issue with his standard sense of “Yellow justice” that will ultimately ensure that his boys will get off the hook and silence and happiness will be enforced on the victims. Next case please……
Now that we have the men in green in the street openly handcuffing, threatening and smacking who ever they want in the head with fists and gun butts, and their boss casually passing it off as a little nothing that the parties should simply “talk” about between themselves, its indeed fascinating to think that some clones could still be naive enough or is it brainwashed? to believe with all their yellow tinted little hearts, that these are the good guys who everyone should unquestionably trust with the nations future??????
Indeed its depressing to consider that after watching the clip, there’s still mindless trolls out there who will continue to try to shoot down claims that political prisoners have likewise been beaten and tortured into confessions and political silence using similar tactics by the same men and green.
Sadly, some are so blinded by delusional yellow fantasies and propaganda, that they will only truly see the monster they have created when it is their own head or that of a family member being cracked by the butt of a gun, if they survive that blow, it will then be time to endure the humiliation of enforced silence and ‘happiness’ while the perpetrators of the violence walk free.
Not quite. As I understand it the Criminal Court (who may or may not be a part of the junta!) has claimed that it does not have jurisdiction in the case and has said that the matter should be put before the court for political office holders. Hmm; then again, you may be right.
Read the news, surf the net, talk to Thais. You read what’s posted on Mandala. Read other sites and opinions as well. I’m not attacking but I’m not rising to your bait either.
Dictatorships, having no other legitimate source of authority, have to whistle up different sources of approval to prop themselves up. This is just an opportunistic “populist” policy. Not any sort of sign of an ideological direction.
It would be useful if you told us what they have done on this and why it is important, rather than attacking our ignorance about something that I, for example, do not know. Do tell.
Good on him. But big deal! This sort of news item about royal ‘generosity’ is about as significant in the broader scheme of things as a footnote to a footnote.
“attacking other people”? I wasn’t attacking you or anyone in particular. I was complaining about this stupid concept of ethnic/tribal divisions in Burma. Are you annoyed because I said I might be half Rohingya? I’m not sure, so you should only be half-annoyed lol
Many people are mixed and there are people like me who do not want to be classified ethnically or racially (even on a census form). Jane is an English name so are you half-British?
I use a pseudonym because I don’t want to get paid for what I write in New Mandala, although I have seen articles here where the author’s name was “Anonymous”
Btw if you are quoting me you should do it correctly.
“Why do you think I am ‘Burma’? Perhaps I am half Rohingya, I’m not sure.”
Tocharian: Why don’t you just tell us your real name? Why always hide behind a pseudonym while attacking other people? How can be ‘not sure’ if you are ‘half Rohingya’?
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I am Sanjay Khilari, from Bombay, India. I would like to travel Myanmar from Bangladesh by Road. Please can you tell me What is the procedure ! I hope Myanmar govt. help me this tripe and visa . What is the procedure of Visa. It will take me from India or I will get in High Commission of Myanmar in Bangladesh. My dream is to travel by road to Bangladesh, Myanmar, Laos and Thailand and back to India by plane. So plz. guide me. Thanking You, …. Sanjay.
Of pragmatism and politics
The reference to Burma is also not much better, but I forgive him, since he is just a young student who probably cannot read or speak Burmese and the history of Burma is a lot older than the history of the USA (if you begin with European settlements there)
Open Letter Condemning the Thai Constitution
What ever happened to the “fearless” Peau Thai Party or Red Shirt leaders including Thaksin, Yingluck, Chalerm, Jatuporn and many others?
Are there rampant torture and mass disappearances among the Reds or Thaksin followers? Jaidee and Jim Taylor rant so loudly but without conviction nor any real proof.
On the money?
Yep, Indonesia has had a lot of issues in the past few years. Last year, in fact, the Rupiah was the worst performing currency in all of ASEAN. Lots of manufacturing still moving over there, though. And for what it’s worth, stocks are pretty undervalued.
Of pragmatism and politics
The reference to Thailand in this article ought to have been excised before the piece was posted. It is cursory, ill-informed (on the matter of how Washington is, for better or worse, approaching the current regime in Bangkok), and intellectually sloppy. The sloppiness lies in the author’s failing to ask himself how durable the project of the Queen’s Guard dictatorship is likely to be.
Travelling back home
Interesting piece. Most of the Burmese hilltibe people and other non-Thai minorities leaving in Thailand have a special status that allows them to stay in Thailand as stateless persons within their districts. They get pink IDs that state on the back that they cannot leave the district without permission. I understand that statelessness is a condition of this status and it is logical that these people would want to hide their Burmese ID cards, if they have them, or risk losing their special dispensation to stay in Thailand.
“Thai truck driver charged with having a Burmese citizenship card at home, as dual citizenship is not allowed”. This is a different case. I can well believe this type of extortion happens in border areas but in practice Thai citizenshp citizenship can only be revoked from naturalised Thais, if they have resided overseas for 5 years continuously using their former nationality or, if they have been convicted of a serious criminal offence like drug dealing. It can only be done by order of the Interior Minister after a long, convoluted process that can only be initiated by Special Branch, not ordinary police. In recent years it has happened rarely and particularly since the establishment of the Administrative Court, due to concern at the Interior Ministry that revocation cases could result in law suits there. The last revocation announced in the Royal Gazette took place several years ago. If the truck driver was Thai from birth, there is no provision in the Nationality Act to revoke his Thai citizenship.
Of pragmatism and politics
Ko Moe Aung
You and I differ only on the mean to the same end.
The reason being ‘Buddhism’ that make Myanmar Myanmar.
Take Buddhism away and any change will eventually end up as History has shown, a sure “Cambodia’s killing fields”. U NU has tried to incorporate/enlist Buddhism as part of the socialist state.
Keenly aware of the rural needs, with successful “Pyithawtha” program. Unfortunately the military and other political factions as well as the insurrections supported by the west and China truncated his effort.
Moving on, Myanmar is now where the latter 3 are more or less eliminated.
Thailand’s National Legislative Assembly
The good General Prayuth would be well-advised to be more inclusive, than the very narrow power-base his NLA is currently built upon – i.e. built upon his Burapha Payak military faction, Suthep’s forces – and little else.
Where’s the Wongtheyan military faction in this ? To say nothing of the Crown Prince’s well-paid, well-armed Isarrn and Lanna troops, recently highlighted in a report by The Economist.
If Prayuth genuinely wants to unite the Kingdom, perhaps he should listen to more Carabao !! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjgnxBc3eZs
Of pragmatism and politics
plan B, On the surface, never have you uttered a truer word than what you just did:
“Once the urban and rural realize the available equity in material and freedom denied/taken away the change will arrive.”
The realisation is ancient history, the change on the other hand needs, like you said just before, force/compulsion. That’s where the snag is. The people lack the means to topple the military yoke, and true it won’t be forthcoming from the West. But not because it’s “useless, careless”, but because of shrewd calculations factoring in entrenched power “reforming” and the bottom line of becoming amenable and open to international capital.
Open Letter Condemning the Thai Constitution
The men in green have been showing their true colours again:
http://m.bangkokpost.com/topstories/429275
In most cultures, 20 men armed with machine guns, beating down three unarmed men outside a nightclub over a personal gripe would be considered a shameful and cowardly criminal attack that would earn the perpetrators some serious jail time.
However this is Thailand, so instead, our fearless and morally immaculate prime minister has ordered a ‘disciplinary probe’ and ‘urged’ the badly beaten victims and the violent and obviously highly dangerous perpetrators to ‘talk’.
Hmmm, its obvious that our fearless leader has approached this issue with his standard sense of “Yellow justice” that will ultimately ensure that his boys will get off the hook and silence and happiness will be enforced on the victims. Next case please……
Now that we have the men in green in the street openly handcuffing, threatening and smacking who ever they want in the head with fists and gun butts, and their boss casually passing it off as a little nothing that the parties should simply “talk” about between themselves, its indeed fascinating to think that some clones could still be naive enough or is it brainwashed? to believe with all their yellow tinted little hearts, that these are the good guys who everyone should unquestionably trust with the nations future??????
Indeed its depressing to consider that after watching the clip, there’s still mindless trolls out there who will continue to try to shoot down claims that political prisoners have likewise been beaten and tortured into confessions and political silence using similar tactics by the same men and green.
Sadly, some are so blinded by delusional yellow fantasies and propaganda, that they will only truly see the monster they have created when it is their own head or that of a family member being cracked by the butt of a gun, if they survive that blow, it will then be time to endure the humiliation of enforced silence and ‘happiness’ while the perpetrators of the violence walk free.
What goes around comes around.
Open Letter Condemning the Thai Constitution
Not quite. As I understand it the Criminal Court (who may or may not be a part of the junta!) has claimed that it does not have jurisdiction in the case and has said that the matter should be put before the court for political office holders. Hmm; then again, you may be right.
Open Letter Condemning the Thai Constitution
The Junta is not wasting anytime. They have just cleared their proxies, Abhisit and Suthep for any wrong doing.
Political economy of Thai political pathologies
Good post Sattahibo. I respect your view and your right to express it. Some people don’t want to hear the truth or the facts.
Political economy of Thai political pathologies
Read the news, surf the net, talk to Thais. You read what’s posted on Mandala. Read other sites and opinions as well. I’m not attacking but I’m not rising to your bait either.
Open Letter Condemning the Thai Constitution
Dictatorships, having no other legitimate source of authority, have to whistle up different sources of approval to prop themselves up. This is just an opportunistic “populist” policy. Not any sort of sign of an ideological direction.
Political economy of Thai political pathologies
It would be useful if you told us what they have done on this and why it is important, rather than attacking our ignorance about something that I, for example, do not know. Do tell.
Political economy of Thai political pathologies
@Chris Beale
Good on him. But big deal! This sort of news item about royal ‘generosity’ is about as significant in the broader scheme of things as a footnote to a footnote.
Or, alternatively, are you taking the piss?
Review of Being and Becoming Kachin
“attacking other people”? I wasn’t attacking you or anyone in particular. I was complaining about this stupid concept of ethnic/tribal divisions in Burma. Are you annoyed because I said I might be half Rohingya? I’m not sure, so you should only be half-annoyed lol
Many people are mixed and there are people like me who do not want to be classified ethnically or racially (even on a census form). Jane is an English name so are you half-British?
I use a pseudonym because I don’t want to get paid for what I write in New Mandala, although I have seen articles here where the author’s name was “Anonymous”
Btw if you are quoting me you should do it correctly.
Review of Being and Becoming Kachin
Err Tocharian,I think that article is more damning of the Burmans than the Kachins, but thanks for giving us more insight into your uh, thinking.
Review of Being and Becoming Kachin
“Why do you think I am ‘Burma’? Perhaps I am half Rohingya, I’m not sure.”
Tocharian: Why don’t you just tell us your real name? Why always hide behind a pseudonym while attacking other people? How can be ‘not sure’ if you are ‘half Rohingya’?