Thanks for the comments and insightful feedback. In terms of the interviewer, that was James Giggacher, Asia Pacific editor at the ANU College of Asia and the Pacific and member of the New Mandala Indonesia Votes team.
“Your reference to scenarios in Sri Lanka, Thailand,etc. etc. at a breathless place fools no one except your own delusional self”.
Is is foolish enough to insult one’s detractors, but purely insane to insult one’s supporters. Better improve your English, I WAS on your side, until you demonstrated that, while Buddhists still make poor terrorists, some Bamar Buddhists make terrible arguments, as well. Grow up.
You obviously believe there is no word for
irony in the Burmese language. You completely missed my point. NO, it was not a joke, duh ! I was defending Buddhism in large measure.
The Dalai Lamai has repeatedly criticised persecution of Rohingyas in Burma and Tamils and Muslims in Sri Lanka, The Grand Mufti of Mecca doesn’t even know what a Buddhist is.
Please read more carefully, next time. If your English is not as well-developed than your Burmese, then simply answer me in Burmese, which I can comprehend. I am not defending U Wirathu, for God’s sake ! I am rejecting “Religious equivalence and religious correctness”. Buddhists ARE not as enamoured of terrorism as Muslims; that is fact. That was my point.
BurmeseDaze,
Your views are naive. I did not say ALL Muslims are terrorists; I said Muslims have
a greater predilection of terrorism, and gave some example, by sarcasm, that ALSO included Tamil Hindu terrorism in Sri Lanka, had you carefully read what I wrote. Is there a problem with Rohingyas in Burma/Maynmar ? Yes. Is there a problem between Tamils and Sinhalese, yes ? Do Chinese (who are marginal any religion) in China persecutae Hui Jiao, Uighurs and Tibetans ? Yes. And in response, how many Buddhists throughout Southeast Asia, East Asia, Sri Lanka, India, Central Asia and elsewhere, systematically slaughter non-Buddhists TODAY ? The only known contemporary Buddhist act of national violence, was the Sinhalese onslought of the Tamils, who regularly assassinated Sri Lankan leaders. The LTTE was labeled a terrorist group by the US, EU and the UN. Please don’t even try and talk about the savage Khmers in the 15th Century. Hun Sen is a savage because he is a corrupt dictator, not because he is Cambodian, and he is hardly any more of a real Buddhist than Thein Sein. Thai monks who are mostly real Buddhists have committed how many reprisal attacks against Malay terrorists in southern Thailand ? None, of course, and you expect the Thai Army to just sit still and ignore Islamic terrorism in southern Thailand ? Get a grip. o.0001 %
of Buddhists commit terrorist acts, the figure for Muslims is far far far far higher.
ONLY Muslims danced, sang and mocked America on 9/11. No Buddhists, Taoists, Christians, Hindus or Jews did and we have photos to demonstrate why.
If the Islamists in Peninsular Malaysia abrogate the Malaysia Agreement of 1963, yes, Sabah and Sarawak may well separate, but the very act of making the Malaysian Constitution, an Islamic Constitution, will already abrogate the Malaysia Agreement of 1963, which might mean, that while West Malaysia is an Islamic State, Sabah and Sarawak (which have no official religion, according to the MA of 1963) might separate without having to become Islamic States first. What makes you so sure, that Sabah and Sarawak will become Islamic States BEFORE they separate from Malaysia, or once having separated, that the Malay Islamists, UMNO and PAS will have sufficient influence in now-separated Sabah and Sarawak to engender an Islamic State ? Once cut off from Putrajaya, I doubt that the fanatical Malays and UMNO will be able to “fix deposit” Sabah and Sarawak anymore. More likely, a separated Borneo will see a rise in influence of non-Muslim Bumiputera, even as Peninsular Malaysia remains an Islamic State, under your hypothetical scenario. Far more likely is
either a unified Malaysian Islamic State or a
West Malaysian Islamic State and a mixed (Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Animist) Sabah and Sarawak that is not an Islamic State. Equally likely, as well, is an invasion of Sabah and Sarawak by Islamic West Malaysia, as much as by Abu Sayyaf, which already invades Sabah to kidnap Malaysians and tourists.
Huang Tuah is correct in his assertion that the right to ‘Theravada Buddhism’ was a blood soaked, event from which Anawratha effectively destroyed Tathon, using Buddhism as a base to unify, Burma.
However the different b/t Theravada Buddhism and Islam which has never been done do not do justice to Myanmar Citizenry.
For starter Islam enshrine a justification of insane hostility towards other religions as well as each other which is not evident in any other religion, unless satanism is counted as religion.
The tactics employed by the Prabowo team since the election of 9th July and since the official announcement of results by the KPU on 22nd July seem in continuity with their tactics during the presidential campaign. These are to remove any mantle of legitimacy from Jokowi first as a candidate (e.g. the smear campaign suggesting Jokowi was a Chrisitan of Chinese origins, not a good Muslim, a Megawati puppet, etc.) and now as the victor.Through a process of unfounded inuendo, half-truths and falsehoods they are seeking to taint this convincing victory, one achieved it should be noted by a margin greater than those in many presidential elections such as in the US and France. Whether the deliberate objective is to create a climate of suspicion so as to sabotage Jokowi-JKs inauguration in October, or at least provoke hostility to undermine the honeymoon period expected in the first months after the inauguration remains to be seen. It is to be hoped that SBY will be decisive in countering what constitutes an attack on Indonesian democracy and/or, more realistically, that some of Prabowo’s allies in the ‘Permanent Coalition’ (sic) will desert him sooner rather than later. Perhaps in this case their own self-interest and survival instincts will see them embracing the victor. Rank opportunism could, for once, be an ally of Indonesian democracy.
The Thai education system is a carbon copy of the most refined brain washing organization in human history, the military. Like the military the primary objective is engendering absolute subservience and obedience to seniority, everything else is secondary.
The teacher represents the Officer/Amart and under no circumstances can their orders be second guessed or subjected to intelligent questioning by the lower ranking minions.
From the boyish clone like haircut Thai girls must endure to the court yard/parade ground marching and daily rituals of absolute subservience to the monarchy, its a time tested system designed specifically to create pawns who will jump when told to jump and will definitely not see it as their right to question the orders that are passed down from higher ranking officers / amart.
I hope that some day the Thai people manage to move beyond this archaic system of military style subservience training that’s officially passed off as education. Its a crime to let it continue.
I can imagine a Sopranos-style reality show, with Buddhist monks making merit and presiding over people making merit in the day, and extortion and badda bing, badda boom at night with the Chao Phraya making a nice river to swim with the fishees.
Being told from birth that you are the “Tuan race” and reinforced by the Govt propaganda day in day out does that to you. Razzaman Khaliff is a prime example, albeit, having the ability to write. My guess is that, he belongs to the ruling class. (educated in a private school, followed by a stint in an American or British university)
[…] to the yuan. Tristan Knowles, the director of Economists at Large, an Australian consultancy, calculates that a (modest) 10% appreciation of the yuan against the Laos kip could increase the burden of such […]
People of Indonesia feel embarrassed by Prabowo when he launched his bogus claim. It’s us who are cheated, not him. He runs his team like a gangster runs his gang. He’s psychopath who will ruin everything we’ve been built for so long. Erratic and unpredictable character that will bring people of RI into a shit hole full of agony, a NEO-ORBA.
The only thing the KPU doing is considered fatal was allowing psycho like Prabowo joins as a candidate. It shouldn’t have ever happened. Never.
“Should it come as any surprise that Buddhism has recently shown hostility to other religions?”
Buddhism has shown hostility?
How? What does that statement mean?
Have the teachings changed?
How does Buddhism show hostility?
This is just 1 of a number of IMHO ridiculous…. Never mind
API Pemilu has been gathering all the relevant data, extracted in to a machine readable format and structured a first-ever elections database. We also with a local Indonesian software organization that created Application Programming Interface endpoints, API, giving developers essential tools that they can then use to create apps. I believe with this writer opinion that this kind of method should be implementend and reinforced towards other agency to support democracy and transparency. Afterall, sunlight is the best desinfectant. With the new President elected, we should move forward to the next step of government transparency by enggaging public participation and providing public with open data& open government.
Warped logic and misleading with your relentlessly glib talk referring at will but inconsistently and sporadically to historical facts (or farces??).
Buddhism was not built on the foundation of spilled blood. Political opportunists may abuse religion for their own ends. This does not ultimately place the blame with whatever religion you are professing if you can verify their principles particularly with religions emphasising non-violence. Your reference to scenarios in Sri Lanka, Thailand,etc. etc. at a breathless place fools no one except your own delusional self.
No scripture states the merits of suicide bombings; there are countless examples of exalted ladies in mentioned in Buddhist literature and uphold their dignity it did.
Stoning, amputation and other forms of violence against the helpless and underprevileged never once occur in the scripture nor the sermons of Buddha.
Your insinuation that Buddhists have no time to commit such heinous, violent, criminal acts because they are preoccupied with other things is illogical and may be you have meant it to be a joke.
If you want the data of election results by Province, it has been in the Indonesian press since July 9th. Unfortunately, can’t find it, its been since taken down. But here are crowd source data by province, district, sub-district and even individual polling stations.
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Jokowi vs Prabowo: tight-run race a turning point
Hi John
Thanks for the comments and insightful feedback. In terms of the interviewer, that was James Giggacher, Asia Pacific editor at the ANU College of Asia and the Pacific and member of the New Mandala Indonesia Votes team.
We was robbed
One thing that escaped many is the fact that there is a subtle campaign of hatred towards Chinese.
(1) Many voters for Prabowo did so because they believe Jokowi is a Chinese descendant.
(2) Why Chinese hackers? To support the accusation that Jokowi is a Chinese descendant.
I don’t even know which one is more disgusting:
– the masquerade by Prabowo about his non anti-Chinese; or
– those Chinese who not only vote for him but defend him mightily despite his little charade of sacrificing Chinese.
Causes of intolerance and prejudice in Buddhism
“Your reference to scenarios in Sri Lanka, Thailand,etc. etc. at a breathless place fools no one except your own delusional self”.
Is is foolish enough to insult one’s detractors, but purely insane to insult one’s supporters. Better improve your English, I WAS on your side, until you demonstrated that, while Buddhists still make poor terrorists, some Bamar Buddhists make terrible arguments, as well. Grow up.
Causes of intolerance and prejudice in Buddhism
U Sein Minn,
You obviously believe there is no word for
irony in the Burmese language. You completely missed my point. NO, it was not a joke, duh ! I was defending Buddhism in large measure.
The Dalai Lamai has repeatedly criticised persecution of Rohingyas in Burma and Tamils and Muslims in Sri Lanka, The Grand Mufti of Mecca doesn’t even know what a Buddhist is.
Please read more carefully, next time. If your English is not as well-developed than your Burmese, then simply answer me in Burmese, which I can comprehend. I am not defending U Wirathu, for God’s sake ! I am rejecting “Religious equivalence and religious correctness”. Buddhists ARE not as enamoured of terrorism as Muslims; that is fact. That was my point.
BurmeseDaze,
Your views are naive. I did not say ALL Muslims are terrorists; I said Muslims have
a greater predilection of terrorism, and gave some example, by sarcasm, that ALSO included Tamil Hindu terrorism in Sri Lanka, had you carefully read what I wrote. Is there a problem with Rohingyas in Burma/Maynmar ? Yes. Is there a problem between Tamils and Sinhalese, yes ? Do Chinese (who are marginal any religion) in China persecutae Hui Jiao, Uighurs and Tibetans ? Yes. And in response, how many Buddhists throughout Southeast Asia, East Asia, Sri Lanka, India, Central Asia and elsewhere, systematically slaughter non-Buddhists TODAY ? The only known contemporary Buddhist act of national violence, was the Sinhalese onslought of the Tamils, who regularly assassinated Sri Lankan leaders. The LTTE was labeled a terrorist group by the US, EU and the UN. Please don’t even try and talk about the savage Khmers in the 15th Century. Hun Sen is a savage because he is a corrupt dictator, not because he is Cambodian, and he is hardly any more of a real Buddhist than Thein Sein. Thai monks who are mostly real Buddhists have committed how many reprisal attacks against Malay terrorists in southern Thailand ? None, of course, and you expect the Thai Army to just sit still and ignore Islamic terrorism in southern Thailand ? Get a grip. o.0001 %
of Buddhists commit terrorist acts, the figure for Muslims is far far far far higher.
ONLY Muslims danced, sang and mocked America on 9/11. No Buddhists, Taoists, Christians, Hindus or Jews did and we have photos to demonstrate why.
We was robbed
Well, the title of this article does just as well apply to Thailand. Simply put, the network monarchy is now very clear to most Thais.
The dhimmi and an old new “rationale”
Neptunian,
If the Islamists in Peninsular Malaysia abrogate the Malaysia Agreement of 1963, yes, Sabah and Sarawak may well separate, but the very act of making the Malaysian Constitution, an Islamic Constitution, will already abrogate the Malaysia Agreement of 1963, which might mean, that while West Malaysia is an Islamic State, Sabah and Sarawak (which have no official religion, according to the MA of 1963) might separate without having to become Islamic States first. What makes you so sure, that Sabah and Sarawak will become Islamic States BEFORE they separate from Malaysia, or once having separated, that the Malay Islamists, UMNO and PAS will have sufficient influence in now-separated Sabah and Sarawak to engender an Islamic State ? Once cut off from Putrajaya, I doubt that the fanatical Malays and UMNO will be able to “fix deposit” Sabah and Sarawak anymore. More likely, a separated Borneo will see a rise in influence of non-Muslim Bumiputera, even as Peninsular Malaysia remains an Islamic State, under your hypothetical scenario. Far more likely is
either a unified Malaysian Islamic State or a
West Malaysian Islamic State and a mixed (Muslim, Christian, Buddhist, Animist) Sabah and Sarawak that is not an Islamic State. Equally likely, as well, is an invasion of Sabah and Sarawak by Islamic West Malaysia, as much as by Abu Sayyaf, which already invades Sabah to kidnap Malaysians and tourists.
Causes of intolerance and prejudice in Buddhism
Huang Tuah is correct in his assertion that the right to ‘Theravada Buddhism’ was a blood soaked, event from which Anawratha effectively destroyed Tathon, using Buddhism as a base to unify, Burma.
However the different b/t Theravada Buddhism and Islam which has never been done do not do justice to Myanmar Citizenry.
For starter Islam enshrine a justification of insane hostility towards other religions as well as each other which is not evident in any other religion, unless satanism is counted as religion.
We was robbed
The tactics employed by the Prabowo team since the election of 9th July and since the official announcement of results by the KPU on 22nd July seem in continuity with their tactics during the presidential campaign. These are to remove any mantle of legitimacy from Jokowi first as a candidate (e.g. the smear campaign suggesting Jokowi was a Chrisitan of Chinese origins, not a good Muslim, a Megawati puppet, etc.) and now as the victor.Through a process of unfounded inuendo, half-truths and falsehoods they are seeking to taint this convincing victory, one achieved it should be noted by a margin greater than those in many presidential elections such as in the US and France. Whether the deliberate objective is to create a climate of suspicion so as to sabotage Jokowi-JKs inauguration in October, or at least provoke hostility to undermine the honeymoon period expected in the first months after the inauguration remains to be seen. It is to be hoped that SBY will be decisive in countering what constitutes an attack on Indonesian democracy and/or, more realistically, that some of Prabowo’s allies in the ‘Permanent Coalition’ (sic) will desert him sooner rather than later. Perhaps in this case their own self-interest and survival instincts will see them embracing the victor. Rank opportunism could, for once, be an ally of Indonesian democracy.
Confused Thai Educators
The Thai education system is a carbon copy of the most refined brain washing organization in human history, the military. Like the military the primary objective is engendering absolute subservience and obedience to seniority, everything else is secondary.
The teacher represents the Officer/Amart and under no circumstances can their orders be second guessed or subjected to intelligent questioning by the lower ranking minions.
From the boyish clone like haircut Thai girls must endure to the court yard/parade ground marching and daily rituals of absolute subservience to the monarchy, its a time tested system designed specifically to create pawns who will jump when told to jump and will definitely not see it as their right to question the orders that are passed down from higher ranking officers / amart.
I hope that some day the Thai people manage to move beyond this archaic system of military style subservience training that’s officially passed off as education. Its a crime to let it continue.
Causes of intolerance and prejudice in Buddhism
@ Sein Minn
You don’t get it. Read Hang Tuah’s comments again!
Causes of intolerance and prejudice in Buddhism
Yeah, look at this Buddhist monk in Thailand.
http://asiancorrespondent.com/119930/the-pdrc-and-monk-mafia-extortion-racket/
I can imagine a Sopranos-style reality show, with Buddhist monks making merit and presiding over people making merit in the day, and extortion and badda bing, badda boom at night with the Chao Phraya making a nice river to swim with the fishees.
We was robbed
Yes, we was robed by Prabowo and his team.
Indonesian will learn how to choose their leader.
Salam tiga jari
Jokowi for all Indonesian (not only for his voters)
Malaysia: A discourse-impoverished society
Being told from birth that you are the “Tuan race” and reinforced by the Govt propaganda day in day out does that to you. Razzaman Khaliff is a prime example, albeit, having the ability to write. My guess is that, he belongs to the ruling class. (educated in a private school, followed by a stint in an American or British university)
The dhimmi and an old new “rationale”
10 years from now.. that’s my prediction – Royal Islamic Malaya. Sabah and Sarawak will try to separate, violently opposed by Islamic Malaya.
The “invasion” of Sabah by Abu Sayaf Islamic group may be a conspiracy(!?) to allow massive re-location of troops to East Malaysia? (just saying)
Fiscal folly or essential infrastructure
[…] to the yuan. Tristan Knowles, the director of Economists at Large, an Australian consultancy, calculates that a (modest) 10% appreciation of the yuan against the Laos kip could increase the burden of such […]
We was robbed
People of Indonesia feel embarrassed by Prabowo when he launched his bogus claim. It’s us who are cheated, not him. He runs his team like a gangster runs his gang. He’s psychopath who will ruin everything we’ve been built for so long. Erratic and unpredictable character that will bring people of RI into a shit hole full of agony, a NEO-ORBA.
The only thing the KPU doing is considered fatal was allowing psycho like Prabowo joins as a candidate. It shouldn’t have ever happened. Never.
Causes of intolerance and prejudice in Buddhism
“Should it come as any surprise that Buddhism has recently shown hostility to other religions?”
Buddhism has shown hostility?
How? What does that statement mean?
Have the teachings changed?
How does Buddhism show hostility?
This is just 1 of a number of IMHO ridiculous…. Never mind
Technology for Transparency
API Pemilu has been gathering all the relevant data, extracted in to a machine readable format and structured a first-ever elections database. We also with a local Indonesian software organization that created Application Programming Interface endpoints, API, giving developers essential tools that they can then use to create apps. I believe with this writer opinion that this kind of method should be implementend and reinforced towards other agency to support democracy and transparency. Afterall, sunlight is the best desinfectant. With the new President elected, we should move forward to the next step of government transparency by enggaging public participation and providing public with open data& open government.
Diah
Causes of intolerance and prejudice in Buddhism
@Hang Tuah
Warped logic and misleading with your relentlessly glib talk referring at will but inconsistently and sporadically to historical facts (or farces??).
Buddhism was not built on the foundation of spilled blood. Political opportunists may abuse religion for their own ends. This does not ultimately place the blame with whatever religion you are professing if you can verify their principles particularly with religions emphasising non-violence. Your reference to scenarios in Sri Lanka, Thailand,etc. etc. at a breathless place fools no one except your own delusional self.
No scripture states the merits of suicide bombings; there are countless examples of exalted ladies in mentioned in Buddhist literature and uphold their dignity it did.
Stoning, amputation and other forms of violence against the helpless and underprevileged never once occur in the scripture nor the sermons of Buddha.
Your insinuation that Buddhists have no time to commit such heinous, violent, criminal acts because they are preoccupied with other things is illogical and may be you have meant it to be a joke.
Jokowi vs Prabowo: tight-run race a turning point
If you want the data of election results by Province, it has been in the Indonesian press since July 9th. Unfortunately, can’t find it, its been since taken down. But here are crowd source data by province, district, sub-district and even individual polling stations.
http://kawalpemilu.org/#0
They are based on the KPU data.
Then here is a map.
http://peta-suara.appspot.com/?h