Wira, the solution at present is not about changing the system. The solution should be about being, ehm, tegas/firm about enforcing the illegality of money politics, i.e. putting people in jail for buying votes.
Also, Prabowo attended English-medium international schools from age 7 to 18. Today these schools can cost around USD 20,000. It would be embarrassing if he wasn’t fluent in English given the amount of money that was invested in his English education. Anyone with that much English education would be fluent in English.
thank you for the complete transcript. reading it actually making me recpect prabowo on his english. he couldnt explained better. i hope there is no more twisting words or misleading headline after this. the west said indonesia has one of the best democracy. but we do pay itu with the widespread corruption specially amongst the beraucrats. while jokowi do have the nation’s attention with the supposedly clean campaign and donation account. a regional hopeful legislative candidates or head of governtment wont get much donation as easily as jokowi. at the bupati election, alot of people wont bother to go to the pole to vote. hence the money politics. prabowo is actually not the first one to bring this up. this issue had been on paper several times.
This is quite an interesting response from Prabowo. His argument *sounds* rational at first glance. HOWEVER, his argument does not fit with the reality. Jokowi, is campaigning under the exact same system, but he is able and willing to stay clear of political choices that would make him beholden to financiers. Prabowo is mistaken in blaming the system. It is not the political system that is to blame, but the government’s lack of political will to enforce the existing system – a will that Prabowo also clearly lacks. As we know, Prabowo’s campaign is already filled with promises of political gain for his main supporters.
But then, perhaps notdisappointed needs no permission from the multi-alias Cartalucci combine to re-post material?
Incidentally, for the sake of completeness, here’s the Cartalucci comment/addendum that was posted a minute after the main block:
“And let’s put a civilian government in place first, and do all of this through the courts. Throw the book at Shinawatra. He has no intention of ever giving up.”
Most Thais know that Prayuth is an temperament general but we did not realize that his implusiveness would get the better of him. The coup was nothing more than an ill-planed and badly-conceive action by Prayuth to prevent Suthep’s efforts from becoming another failure to overthrown Thaksin affiliated government through the street protest. Once the coup was staged, Pravuth and his junta were therfore dumb-found on what to do next . Unlike the 2007 coup when the real intention was to take the power to control the military back from Thaksin (and any future elected government), the current junta has full control of the military (for now) and Prayuth and his coup makers were promoted to their current position by the system installed by the 2007 coup. The junta may wish to borrow Suthep’s propaganda as a directive for reform. However, the propaganda itself is hardly a viable public policy and was introduced by members of a party, the Democrat, who has a history of making bad public policy. Take the later action by the military in the Northeast for example. The army pronounced the intention to eliminate existing political view on majority rule among locals in the rural areas by explaining to them that the perfect democracy is more that election and majority rule!!
In conclusion, Prayuth was either conned or pimped by Suthep and his sponsor to stage the coup. This has been realized by many in high places as shown by the lack of their supports in the public. A coup started out so badly as this one would likely to end badly as well.
With TAILS, If you are in an internet cafe, you can reboot the system with the TAILS DVD, and it uses TOR to browse the internet. Since the DVD is read only, no trace is left on the computer.
There is a new Android version called Guardian Rom which has an encrypted “hidden” operating system.
It is getting harder to get email accounts without having some kind of registration with another email account or a cell phone. But there are some. This might be out of date, but you can find something more up to date:
On a lighter note, watch a hilarious take by John Oliver on the Thai Coup (the butt hurt yellow shirt Bangkok netizens comments are also quite amusing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLkwDZPo5c0
You should always protect yourself when signing petitions by using a pseudonym with a throwaway email address accessed through a VPN and a chained proxy if possible plus a MAC spoofing program. Finally delete all traces of your computer activity using a program such as CCLeaner. Always travel with a clean laptop. Be very cereful when using your smart phone to access the Internet as well (disable location services, encryot all data, download a one button kill switch app that deletes all evidence of access under your pseudonym email, do not store messsages, etc). If you do the above, it is unlikely you will be arrested in Thailand, if you are questioned, deny everything and in the immortal words of another General (Martin Cahill from Dublin): “Whatever it is you say I am, I am not. Whatever it is you take from me, you can take. What is it you can do to me? The worst thing you can do is kill me, after that I won’t care, I am still free.”
Aceh is Indonesia pretending not to be Malaysia. Romanticising Aceh is all well and good, except if you are a young woman walking alone, or worse, walking with a non-male relative. In case you haven’t heard, Zina and Hudud are punishable in Aceh, something Malaysia is trying hard, perversely, to emulate. Aceh is beautiful, Acehnese are wonderful, but Aceh Shari’a Law sucks, and it sucks the most, for Acehnese women. Iskandar Muda is not the only tradition in Aceh, Darul Islam is also one, at least as long and as influential. The Dutch weren’t kept away because Acehnese didn’t speak Nederlands.
You tie in Aceh with Java, ignoring the fact that the Malay people came from Aceh, a lot sooner than did any other Indo-Polynesian people. Malays in Negeri Sembilan in Malaysia understand Bahasa Aceh better than your average Javanese. Please remember that.
“I wonder whether his single, fashion designer son in Paris will design daddy’s wardrobe for the inauguration? Some tight fitting little number to keep that overweaning hubris in place.”
Somehow, I never quite thought of Prabowo as
SVELTE. ZAFTIG, yes, but not svelte. If size
is a determinant of ego, then Jokowi must be
Father Teresa. How bad can a former Governor of Jakarta be, if he likes punk and heavy metal music ? I don’t know Prabowo’s tastes, but Wagner comes to mind.
The next question of concern is what happens if Jokowi wins? Will Prabowo, who seems to see himself as destined for the top job, accept the will of the people, get back on his horse and trot calmly off into the sunset? That seems unlikely.
The Wall Street Journal makes an interesting yet very unsettling forecast that the Thai military could indeed be moving in towards a long haul grip to power.
“By casting Mr. Thaksin in the role of bogeyman, the senior brass has rationalized a leading role for itself. But Thailand remains highly polarized over Mr. Thaksin’s hold over popular politics and repression only increases sympathy for him. The military is itself divided with many lower ranking officers supporting the former prime minister.
This dynamic will make it impossible for the military to return real power to an elected government in the foreseeable future. Even if civilian government resumes, the generals will continue to exercise control from behind the scenes. The hard choices that could lead to reconciliation and political development are unlikely to be addressed until the next monarch is securely on the throne.”
The above scenario still to unfold is scary and ugly. Now how to get these ‘unwanted genie-rals’ quickly back to their lamps?
And will somebody stop ‘not-disappointed’ and their ilks from rubbing any more lamps?
Actually, I didn’t forecast a military coup, I thought it would be achieved through legal chicanery, and that was indeed the plan until the Constitutional Court failed to deal the death blow to the caretaker government that the royalists were hoping for.
I don’t intend to boost my ego, but I am disappointed by the poor quality of much analysis of Thailand which fails to adequately tackle the succession issue. I am a big fan of Nich Farrelly’s work but I just read his overview of Thailand in 2013 published by ISEAS and I was dismayed by how vague and woolly it was.
A mysterious outsider in Aceh
Had the pleasure of spending half a day with Bang Azmi in Banda Aceh. Outstanding guy! Full of passion and warmth.
Anti-democratic? Prabowo’s response
Wira, the solution at present is not about changing the system. The solution should be about being, ehm, tegas/firm about enforcing the illegality of money politics, i.e. putting people in jail for buying votes.
Also, Prabowo attended English-medium international schools from age 7 to 18. Today these schools can cost around USD 20,000. It would be embarrassing if he wasn’t fluent in English given the amount of money that was invested in his English education. Anyone with that much English education would be fluent in English.
Anti-democratic? Prabowo’s response
thank you for the complete transcript. reading it actually making me recpect prabowo on his english. he couldnt explained better. i hope there is no more twisting words or misleading headline after this. the west said indonesia has one of the best democracy. but we do pay itu with the widespread corruption specially amongst the beraucrats. while jokowi do have the nation’s attention with the supposedly clean campaign and donation account. a regional hopeful legislative candidates or head of governtment wont get much donation as easily as jokowi. at the bupati election, alot of people wont bother to go to the pole to vote. hence the money politics. prabowo is actually not the first one to bring this up. this issue had been on paper several times.
Demokrasi Indonesia Dalam Bahaya
Vote for Prabowo, and welcome to the second North Korea
Anti-democratic? Prabowo’s response
This is quite an interesting response from Prabowo. His argument *sounds* rational at first glance. HOWEVER, his argument does not fit with the reality. Jokowi, is campaigning under the exact same system, but he is able and willing to stay clear of political choices that would make him beholden to financiers. Prabowo is mistaken in blaming the system. It is not the political system that is to blame, but the government’s lack of political will to enforce the existing system – a will that Prabowo also clearly lacks. As we know, Prabowo’s campaign is already filled with promises of political gain for his main supporters.
Prabowo Subianto: vote for me, but just the once
Hi Marlisa
Please see a Bahasa version of the article here:
http://www.newmandala.org/2014/07/01/prabowo-subianto-pilihlah-aku-tetapi-sekali-saja/
Prabowo Subianto: vote for me, but just the once
define “uneducated”, please. it has broad understanding.
Seven questions for Thailand’s military
Not just begins with – it’s all copy’n’pasted from http://www.facebook.com/anthony.cartalucci/posts/10201241840047634.
But then, perhaps notdisappointed needs no permission from the multi-alias Cartalucci combine to re-post material?
Incidentally, for the sake of completeness, here’s the Cartalucci comment/addendum that was posted a minute after the main block:
“And let’s put a civilian government in place first, and do all of this through the courts. Throw the book at Shinawatra. He has no intention of ever giving up.”
Thai coup: The debate continues
Most Thais know that Prayuth is an temperament general but we did not realize that his implusiveness would get the better of him. The coup was nothing more than an ill-planed and badly-conceive action by Prayuth to prevent Suthep’s efforts from becoming another failure to overthrown Thaksin affiliated government through the street protest. Once the coup was staged, Pravuth and his junta were therfore dumb-found on what to do next . Unlike the 2007 coup when the real intention was to take the power to control the military back from Thaksin (and any future elected government), the current junta has full control of the military (for now) and Prayuth and his coup makers were promoted to their current position by the system installed by the 2007 coup. The junta may wish to borrow Suthep’s propaganda as a directive for reform. However, the propaganda itself is hardly a viable public policy and was introduced by members of a party, the Democrat, who has a history of making bad public policy. Take the later action by the military in the Northeast for example. The army pronounced the intention to eliminate existing political view on majority rule among locals in the rural areas by explaining to them that the perfect democracy is more that election and majority rule!!
In conclusion, Prayuth was either conned or pimped by Suthep and his sponsor to stage the coup. This has been realized by many in high places as shown by the lack of their supports in the public. A coup started out so badly as this one would likely to end badly as well.
Condemnation of the coup
I urge someone who can translate Thai to go to the TAILS site and prepare a use guide in Thai for the TAILS Linux operating system.
https://tails.boum.org/contribute/how/translate/
The management at boum.org would support this.
With TAILS, If you are in an internet cafe, you can reboot the system with the TAILS DVD, and it uses TOR to browse the internet. Since the DVD is read only, no trace is left on the computer.
There is a new Android version called Guardian Rom which has an encrypted “hidden” operating system.
http://shadowdcatconsulting.com/blog/
It is getting harder to get email accounts without having some kind of registration with another email account or a cell phone. But there are some. This might be out of date, but you can find something more up to date:
http://lifehacker.com/5306452/how-do-you-keep-your-email-address-private
With this, you can make bootable DVD or USB key (with an encrypted container for the latter.)
Prabowo Subianto: vote for me, but just the once
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Condemnation of the coup
On a lighter note, watch a hilarious take by John Oliver on the Thai Coup (the butt hurt yellow shirt Bangkok netizens comments are also quite amusing): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLkwDZPo5c0
Condemnation of the coup
You should always protect yourself when signing petitions by using a pseudonym with a throwaway email address accessed through a VPN and a chained proxy if possible plus a MAC spoofing program. Finally delete all traces of your computer activity using a program such as CCLeaner. Always travel with a clean laptop. Be very cereful when using your smart phone to access the Internet as well (disable location services, encryot all data, download a one button kill switch app that deletes all evidence of access under your pseudonym email, do not store messsages, etc). If you do the above, it is unlikely you will be arrested in Thailand, if you are questioned, deny everything and in the immortal words of another General (Martin Cahill from Dublin): “Whatever it is you say I am, I am not. Whatever it is you take from me, you can take. What is it you can do to me? The worst thing you can do is kill me, after that I won’t care, I am still free.”
A mysterious outsider in Aceh
Aceh is Indonesia pretending not to be Malaysia. Romanticising Aceh is all well and good, except if you are a young woman walking alone, or worse, walking with a non-male relative. In case you haven’t heard, Zina and Hudud are punishable in Aceh, something Malaysia is trying hard, perversely, to emulate. Aceh is beautiful, Acehnese are wonderful, but Aceh Shari’a Law sucks, and it sucks the most, for Acehnese women. Iskandar Muda is not the only tradition in Aceh, Darul Islam is also one, at least as long and as influential. The Dutch weren’t kept away because Acehnese didn’t speak Nederlands.
You tie in Aceh with Java, ignoring the fact that the Malay people came from Aceh, a lot sooner than did any other Indo-Polynesian people. Malays in Negeri Sembilan in Malaysia understand Bahasa Aceh better than your average Javanese. Please remember that.
Thai coup: The debate continues
How long has it been since either the King or Queen have been seen in public? Thank you.
Prabowo Subianto: vote for me, but just the once
“I wonder whether his single, fashion designer son in Paris will design daddy’s wardrobe for the inauguration? Some tight fitting little number to keep that overweaning hubris in place.”
Somehow, I never quite thought of Prabowo as
SVELTE. ZAFTIG, yes, but not svelte. If size
is a determinant of ego, then Jokowi must be
Father Teresa. How bad can a former Governor of Jakarta be, if he likes punk and heavy metal music ? I don’t know Prabowo’s tastes, but Wagner comes to mind.
Prabowo Subianto: vote for me, but just the once
The next question of concern is what happens if Jokowi wins? Will Prabowo, who seems to see himself as destined for the top job, accept the will of the people, get back on his horse and trot calmly off into the sunset? That seems unlikely.
Symbols of success
[…] knows that symbols of strength have worked for him. For some-more than 30 years before a 1998 reformation, students in […]
Thailand’s coup: same same but different?
The Wall Street Journal makes an interesting yet very unsettling forecast that the Thai military could indeed be moving in towards a long haul grip to power.
“By casting Mr. Thaksin in the role of bogeyman, the senior brass has rationalized a leading role for itself. But Thailand remains highly polarized over Mr. Thaksin’s hold over popular politics and repression only increases sympathy for him. The military is itself divided with many lower ranking officers supporting the former prime minister.
This dynamic will make it impossible for the military to return real power to an elected government in the foreseeable future. Even if civilian government resumes, the generals will continue to exercise control from behind the scenes. The hard choices that could lead to reconciliation and political development are unlikely to be addressed until the next monarch is securely on the throne.”
http://online.wsj.com/articles/thailands-divided-military-1404148174
The above scenario still to unfold is scary and ugly. Now how to get these ‘unwanted genie-rals’ quickly back to their lamps?
And will somebody stop ‘not-disappointed’ and their ilks from rubbing any more lamps?
Thai coup: The debate continues
Actually, I didn’t forecast a military coup, I thought it would be achieved through legal chicanery, and that was indeed the plan until the Constitutional Court failed to deal the death blow to the caretaker government that the royalists were hoping for.
I don’t intend to boost my ego, but I am disappointed by the poor quality of much analysis of Thailand which fails to adequately tackle the succession issue. I am a big fan of Nich Farrelly’s work but I just read his overview of Thailand in 2013 published by ISEAS and I was dismayed by how vague and woolly it was.