Gorakhan is sort of politely telling you all to crawl back into your hole and stay there. (Now if you were a local of no visible ‘wealth’, he would probably just kick you back into it.)
It would often seem that Chris Baker has spent 30 years trying to apply lipstick to a pig. I personally find his work interesting, but 1 day here is often enough to figure out that no one (significant)here really wants to hear the opinions of aliens and internal discontents. Rather, a figurehead always has to be established to tell ordinary people what they are well-advised to think if they wish to remain happy campers under the current cheer leader. Notice how rarely one gets asked by a local to express any real opinions. Rather, you get asked mundane questions about food and restaurants (which it is usually fairly safe to have a few opinions about for a local). And even then you often get the sour look that tells you that you have exceeded your ration of allowed opinion. ‘Ah-roy’ or ‘mai chorp’ is usually about all that is really expected.
Over the years, I can’t really think of anyone local asking for my opinion on anything important. I’ve certainly met opponents of both the current & previous regime – but they also give you almost no room to speak unless it is to wholeheartedly (and very concisely)endorse their own dislike of the current shower in power.
Gorakan – my understanding is that Chris Baker has spent more than 30 years living, working, and studying in Thailand – and that even BEFORE that he had studied Thailand first as an undergraduate and then graduate from Cambridge University, with a degree in Asian Studies.
Gorakan you obviously know ‘f**k all’ to claim that Chris Baker has only ‘spent a small chunk’ of his life studying the country. What an appallingly ignorant comment!
This comment begs the issue, completely, doing the same thing Samak did when he asked the reporting who questioned his lying mouth that “only one unlucky student died,” by asking the reporter how old she was and that she was not even born when the incidents took place. This is the magic about Thainess – history need neither be accurate of even existent.
Thailand needs to pull itself together in attitude to Westerners. We come here, spend money in enormous amounts and you put us through hoops at the immigration office as though we are suspected drug dealers. Yet you people can come to our Countries, be equal, buy land, and so on. Your political
and business culture is a disgrace.
Stupid Muslims may factually be inaccurate. Philippines is predominantly Catholic, Myanmar/Burma, Thailand is predominantly Buddhist and also lots of Communists in Cambodia, Lao and Vietnam (with lots of Buddhist and other religions).
So maybe stupid ASEANs (or whatever you want to call the citizens of ASEAN member states) maybe more appropriate.
is it no wonder that the average number of voters in an opposition held constituency is several times that of a BN constituency?
this is the precise reason why there are so many constituencies with very low populations. apart from phantom voters affecting the result, the few genuine votes can be bought more easily
Never is the phrase ‘divide and rule’ more applicable than within the Malaysia electoral system
It is quite appropriate that academics like Chris Baker and journalists like Mr Rivers get accused of being bought or biased when they have only spent a small chunk of their lives studying the country.
What they had learnt were not enough for them to make their own judgements on events occurring in foreign country.
May if the other surrounding countries had better things to do, like running out their Asian strongmen instead of supporting them, they wouldn’t have people money laundering in Singapore in the first place. Don’t condemn a country for being financial center. One other thing, even without the so-called money laundering, you really think Singapore’s going to flounder? We’ll just move on to the next profitable thing, while you assholes continue wailing about Islam this and Israel that and US injustice this. Stupid Muslims.
There has been a lot of speculation about Martina Rozells’ background, with some suggestions that despite her Portuguese-sounding name she had links with the Kedah royal family. One popular early story was that she was a Malay princess, and Penang was a “dowry” of some sort. It is a pity there is not more reliable information about her.
I understand the Myanmar Red Cross Society is very active within the country assisting when all manner of devastation occurs. Was the MRCS present in this instance?
It is always fun to read some Burmese history books written by Burmese or foreign scholars. reading some comments here is more fun. The reader has to take it wit a grain of salt. which is an obvious fact. someone prattles on a bit too much instead of getting his or her act together more maturely. Too much labeling, mate! Do us a favor by writing some worthwhile comments on the review, not your rants!
The Complicating thing is People of Influence and Power Create and Erect Boundaries with their own Agendas,( mostly Personal, out of Greed, Power )for Different Purposes.
When Universalising Islam or any Religion in a Society that Can Move together as One Cohesive Entity, its Value and Purpose that Attracts and Fits into one another is Central.
If telling the Truth is the Value and Promoting Peace and Livelihood are the Intended Purposes, then Islam or any Religion or Belief/Ideology can have Universal Appeal and Acceptance, because it is BORDERLESS and is what Humanity has Been Searching For, Since in Existence.
Zye did not even say which version of Islam, his, sunnis, shite, ismailis or some other. BTW, each sect or group treats the other as enemies and willing kill them on any excuse. You are so right about the tolerance out the window bit, but it goes further. One even has to be in the “correct” sect!!
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They cannot rest in peace
Thanks for posting this moving story.
Pesky foreigners
Gorakhan is sort of politely telling you all to crawl back into your hole and stay there. (Now if you were a local of no visible ‘wealth’, he would probably just kick you back into it.)
It would often seem that Chris Baker has spent 30 years trying to apply lipstick to a pig. I personally find his work interesting, but 1 day here is often enough to figure out that no one (significant)here really wants to hear the opinions of aliens and internal discontents. Rather, a figurehead always has to be established to tell ordinary people what they are well-advised to think if they wish to remain happy campers under the current cheer leader. Notice how rarely one gets asked by a local to express any real opinions. Rather, you get asked mundane questions about food and restaurants (which it is usually fairly safe to have a few opinions about for a local). And even then you often get the sour look that tells you that you have exceeded your ration of allowed opinion. ‘Ah-roy’ or ‘mai chorp’ is usually about all that is really expected.
Over the years, I can’t really think of anyone local asking for my opinion on anything important. I’ve certainly met opponents of both the current & previous regime – but they also give you almost no room to speak unless it is to wholeheartedly (and very concisely)endorse their own dislike of the current shower in power.
Pesky foreigners
Gorakan – my understanding is that Chris Baker has spent more than 30 years living, working, and studying in Thailand – and that even BEFORE that he had studied Thailand first as an undergraduate and then graduate from Cambridge University, with a degree in Asian Studies.
Pesky foreigners
Gorakan you obviously know ‘f**k all’ to claim that Chris Baker has only ‘spent a small chunk’ of his life studying the country. What an appallingly ignorant comment!
Pesky foreigners
Approximately how many years of study would you say is required before an foreigner can make his or her own judgments of the events?
And, in comparison, how many years of study does a Thai person need to understand the political events of Thailand?
Pesky foreigners
This comment begs the issue, completely, doing the same thing Samak did when he asked the reporting who questioned his lying mouth that “only one unlucky student died,” by asking the reporter how old she was and that she was not even born when the incidents took place. This is the magic about Thainess – history need neither be accurate of even existent.
Pesky foreigners
Thailand needs to pull itself together in attitude to Westerners. We come here, spend money in enormous amounts and you put us through hoops at the immigration office as though we are suspected drug dealers. Yet you people can come to our Countries, be equal, buy land, and so on. Your political
and business culture is a disgrace.
When Lee Kuan Yew dies…
Stupid Muslims may factually be inaccurate. Philippines is predominantly Catholic, Myanmar/Burma, Thailand is predominantly Buddhist and also lots of Communists in Cambodia, Lao and Vietnam (with lots of Buddhist and other religions).
So maybe stupid ASEANs (or whatever you want to call the citizens of ASEAN member states) maybe more appropriate.
How Malaysia’s electoral system works
is it no wonder that the average number of voters in an opposition held constituency is several times that of a BN constituency?
this is the precise reason why there are so many constituencies with very low populations. apart from phantom voters affecting the result, the few genuine votes can be bought more easily
Never is the phrase ‘divide and rule’ more applicable than within the Malaysia electoral system
Pesky foreigners
It is quite appropriate that academics like Chris Baker and journalists like Mr Rivers get accused of being bought or biased when they have only spent a small chunk of their lives studying the country.
What they had learnt were not enough for them to make their own judgements on events occurring in foreign country.
When Lee Kuan Yew dies…
May if the other surrounding countries had better things to do, like running out their Asian strongmen instead of supporting them, they wouldn’t have people money laundering in Singapore in the first place. Don’t condemn a country for being financial center. One other thing, even without the so-called money laundering, you really think Singapore’s going to flounder? We’ll just move on to the next profitable thing, while you assholes continue wailing about Islam this and Israel that and US injustice this. Stupid Muslims.
Apostasy in Malaysia: The hidden view
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Ties that bind: Sarawak and Adelaide
There has been a lot of speculation about Martina Rozells’ background, with some suggestions that despite her Portuguese-sounding name she had links with the Kedah royal family. One popular early story was that she was a Malay princess, and Penang was a “dowry” of some sort. It is a pity there is not more reliable information about her.
Ties that bind: Sarawak and Adelaide
Just a slight correction: William Light’s mother was Martina Rozells, a lady of Thai and Malacca-Portuguese heritage.
Border Patrol Police as humanitarians
I understand the Myanmar Red Cross Society is very active within the country assisting when all manner of devastation occurs. Was the MRCS present in this instance?
Review of Renunciation and Power
Good review.
Only for those who truly wish to understand.
Religious Chauvinism be it of Buddhists, Islamists or Christians are all born out of “Poverty”.
Each and every Religion entails:
‘A set of priciples by which the followers better themselves as well as others within their circles’. Buddhism is not different.
If these principles are not truly expounded and easily understood by the followers no scholarly interpretation will make a differnce.
Review of History of Myanmar Since Ancient Times
It is always fun to read some Burmese history books written by Burmese or foreign scholars. reading some comments here is more fun. The reader has to take it wit a grain of salt. which is an obvious fact. someone prattles on a bit too much instead of getting his or her act together more maturely. Too much labeling, mate! Do us a favor by writing some worthwhile comments on the review, not your rants!
Universalising Islam in Malaysia
The Complicating thing is People of Influence and Power Create and Erect Boundaries with their own Agendas,( mostly Personal, out of Greed, Power )for Different Purposes.
When Universalising Islam or any Religion in a Society that Can Move together as One Cohesive Entity, its Value and Purpose that Attracts and Fits into one another is Central.
If telling the Truth is the Value and Promoting Peace and Livelihood are the Intended Purposes, then Islam or any Religion or Belief/Ideology can have Universal Appeal and Acceptance, because it is BORDERLESS and is what Humanity has Been Searching For, Since in Existence.
Universalising Islam in Malaysia
Zye did not even say which version of Islam, his, sunnis, shite, ismailis or some other. BTW, each sect or group treats the other as enemies and willing kill them on any excuse. You are so right about the tolerance out the window bit, but it goes further. One even has to be in the “correct” sect!!
Singapore’s food security strategy
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