Well – it seems to be a consensus has been found –
– King and Queen are in the palace “without worries” reunited after nearly 20 years of “separation”
– In that palace Rama 7 was informed about the end of absolute monarchy
– The Crown Prince takes over since some time the duties of the king
– Sirindorn helps him and looks after the parents
– Therefore, the prince is the successor
– and thus the way is clear to talk about the future of the country
– and then the way is clear for a “real democracy” with a “constitutional monarch” –
You ad hominem yourself often enough dear boy. Why don’t you ask your WASP neighbours what’s wrong with Islamic immigrants? You quite sure you’re half Rakhine, not half Rohingya?
First, my congratulations to Thongchai on his new position. Second, I was at the San Diego panel. None of the panelists said anything that a reasonable Thai could consider radical or rabidly anti-royal. It was rather a bland statement of several truths and comments that all of the panelists had made previously. So it would seem that if the state snoops are reporting anything else, then they are guilty of either concoction or fantasy.
I wondered where this Mexican immigrant-look-alike was when the 8-8-8-8 uprising happened. He appeared to be quite fond of doing critical appraisal on ASSK and Bogyoke Aung San, but least on himself. He seemed to have ignored, either by choice or his forgetfulness on the good aspects of what ASSK has done for the country, and nit-picking on her tantrums. ASSK is just a human, and not a bodhisatta or an arahat; so she too has anger and might react accordingly when someone was verbally aggressive and interfered her with a pressured speech. Also Aung San would do anything to get independence, even if he had to appear as a coward, at least in your eyes!
Secularization of politics has two distinct meanings:
1. against using religion as a means of politics (politisation of religion),
2. against politics to be used as a means to realize religious visions (religionisation of politics).
Because especially Islam has an appeal to the believers, it is often applied by politicians as a means to realize their interests. When religion thereby becomes a political issue, it is easily appropriated by religious leaders as a means to achieve their religious ends in form of a theocratic state. In both cases we have active exclusion of those who do not belong to the community, usually enforced by more or less violent suppression. Thus, religion and democracy are not compatible, except, if religion is a private affair.
Shit, all these NGOs who does not
care of devellopment.
The railway is absolut essentiel for
a economic devellopment to take
place in Cambodia and its people and in the Asean countries.
These people has illegaly taken property
from the railway and has legally seen
no claims to the land.
They shall have help and some money to resetle,yes.
But the NGOs role is debateable !
You said and I quote:
“Bully for you if you look like a Mexican migrant worker and not an Islamic immigrant. Count your blessings and carry on sucking up to the WASPs”
Isn’t that an argumentum ad hominem?
Besides is there anything wrong about being an Islamic immigrant?
The West my dear fellow means the white nations. From the frying pan into the fire is a very likely scenario for the people on a more sophisticated level with the generals and the cronies exponentially richer than ever.
Semantics on phobia does not make it “fear” in xenophobia or homophobia but hatred. You do not of course regardless of trolling all over the websites pushing this single issue agenda constitute a one man crusade against Chinese domination if you look at this piece in The Irrawaddy. No place for nationalist instincts that do not discriminate between East and West?
Bully for you if you look like a Mexican migrant worker and not an Islamic immigrant. Count your blessings and carry on sucking up to the WASPs. Staying on good terms with your neighbours, Thailand and Bangladesh included, doesn’t mean sucking up to them. Forgive me for being a hypocrite guilty of living in the West but unconvinced by its constant seizing the moral high ground, and seeing what it truly represents.
An outstanding article by Dr. Ahmad Farouk Musa…writing with the utmost clarity…he states rightly, “It must be stressed here that a call to establish a secular state is not similar in any ways to the call for secularising the society. A state should be secular in the sense that it is neutral to all the differing religious doctrines. It does not mean the exclusion of religion from the public life of a society. The misconception that it does, is one of the reasons many Muslims tend to be hostile towards the concept.” There is a need to separate religion from politics …and this article will hopefully result in a better understanding by many.
There are many well-intentioned, hard-working people in Talentcorp, but their powers are *extremely* limited. To some extent, one could say that they were set up for failure.
I was the chair of that panel at the AAS. Our dicussions surely touched upon the role of the monarchy in Thai politics and looked into the post-Bhumibol era to see how the monarchy would adapt itself. All discussions and comments were made based on academic arguments. But as we know, lese-majeste law can be elastic and its application can be highly abritary. It has long been used as a weapon to silence critics of the monarchy. On this basis, it is not surprising if the anxiety over the uncertain future of the monarchy would drive its defenders to apply lese majeste even against academics.
If scholars participating in professional international academic events such as the Association for Asian Studies meetings, are being monitored, photographed, and backlisted by snoops from the Thai Foreign Ministry, then the Association for Asian Studies needs to be directly informed of this, and they need to take a stand and speak out against this !
[…] our piece – – “Behind Malaysia’s Brain Drain, Surprise! Real People,” that ran Sunday in the New Mandala blog, hosted by the Australian National University (ANU) College […]
I think I may speak for a few people here when I say that I am not sure if I can post my thoughts on this matter, even though I used to think I had some grasp on what was or was not lese majeste.
Pavin – if you check the comments, I have a question for you. In brief, do you have any idea what sort of comments and discussions made at this conference may be construed as lese majeste? I understand if you are prevented in anyway from answering this question.
By the way, “thumbs-up” this comment at your own risk.
TalentCorp is fighting a losing battle if its task is to reverse the significant brain drain in Malaysia. For every Malaysian that it manages to bring home, hundreds head in the opposite direction, pushed out by the present governmental policies that smack of racism.
The far-better solution is to change the minority 47% government into a majority government that does not pander to racism or corruption. Many of us in the Malaysian diaspora would willingly return to help this new government rebuild the nation and restock its talents, without even the need for TalentCorp.
Hla Oo’s Blog has this interesting take on Australian Labor’s attempt to push for constitutional amendment so that ASSK will become president after 2015 General Elections.
How can we know you will not pass our data to NSA and our families will continue to be tortured.The whole Manadal may be a disinformation friont as used by the El Mosaq
When you say “the West”, what do you mean?
Who’s exploiting Burma’s natural resources now? By the way “Sinophobic” actually should mean “afraid of China” (just look up what phobia means). If I would be afraid of Chinese I wouldn’t dare to complain about what they are doing in Burma, would I? I think Suu Kyi is more sinophobic than I am. She is so “circumspect” as you said LOL
I don’t know where you live, but since I am not a hypocrite, I would openly say that I definitely prefer to live in “the West” rather than in China (or in Singapore!) and where I live now (in Canada) there are a lot of noveau-riche relatives of Chinese “naked functionaries” who would unabashedly admit why they don’t want to go back to China (mainly because of pollution and the Communist Party they say). By the way, they normally don’t know that I am from Burma (I look a bit like a Mexican migrant worker LOL) so they will also quite openly tell me that all these periphery states like Burma have always been under the “Umbrella of the Greta Han Civilisation” and so should be part of China in the sense that they should remember that they are indeed Vassal States historically. It’s not just the mainland Chinese who think like that as you can see from the Taiwanese editorial I quoted. I’ve never been to Singapore and Hongkong but I am sure all the Chinese feel the same way about Burma – it’s imbedded in their Confucian culture – so just forget about Burmese “nationalistic instincts”. Chinese don’t care so if Burma wants to be a sovereign country with territorial integrity and political independence, they have to solve this “China menace”. No diplomatic sweet-talking and sugar-coating (we have to suck up to our powerful neighbours kinda thing)
Talentcorp… did someone say Talencorp? A bunch of twenty something and early thirties sons of connected cronies, given a carte blanc budget to throw “info” parties around the world.
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Defending the monarchy
Well – it seems to be a consensus has been found –
– King and Queen are in the palace “without worries” reunited after nearly 20 years of “separation”
– In that palace Rama 7 was informed about the end of absolute monarchy
– The Crown Prince takes over since some time the duties of the king
– Sirindorn helps him and looks after the parents
– Therefore, the prince is the successor
– and thus the way is clear to talk about the future of the country
– and then the way is clear for a “real democracy” with a “constitutional monarch” –
–
Constitutional amendment for Myanmar
toch,
You ad hominem yourself often enough dear boy. Why don’t you ask your WASP neighbours what’s wrong with Islamic immigrants? You quite sure you’re half Rakhine, not half Rohingya?
Defending the monarchy
First, my congratulations to Thongchai on his new position. Second, I was at the San Diego panel. None of the panelists said anything that a reasonable Thai could consider radical or rabidly anti-royal. It was rather a bland statement of several truths and comments that all of the panelists had made previously. So it would seem that if the state snoops are reporting anything else, then they are guilty of either concoction or fantasy.
Just a Lady – Part I
I wondered where this Mexican immigrant-look-alike was when the 8-8-8-8 uprising happened. He appeared to be quite fond of doing critical appraisal on ASSK and Bogyoke Aung San, but least on himself. He seemed to have ignored, either by choice or his forgetfulness on the good aspects of what ASSK has done for the country, and nit-picking on her tantrums. ASSK is just a human, and not a bodhisatta or an arahat; so she too has anger and might react accordingly when someone was verbally aggressive and interfered her with a pressured speech. Also Aung San would do anything to get independence, even if he had to appear as a coward, at least in your eyes!
Defending the monarchy
No European monarchy that behaved like this has ever survived.
The secular democratic state
Secularization of politics has two distinct meanings:
1. against using religion as a means of politics (politisation of religion),
2. against politics to be used as a means to realize religious visions (religionisation of politics).
Because especially Islam has an appeal to the believers, it is often applied by politicians as a means to realize their interests. When religion thereby becomes a political issue, it is easily appropriated by religious leaders as a means to achieve their religious ends in form of a theocratic state. In both cases we have active exclusion of those who do not belong to the community, usually enforced by more or less violent suppression. Thus, religion and democracy are not compatible, except, if religion is a private affair.
The Cambodia Railway Project – what is AusAID’s responsibility?
Shit, all these NGOs who does not
care of devellopment.
The railway is absolut essentiel for
a economic devellopment to take
place in Cambodia and its people and in the Asean countries.
These people has illegaly taken property
from the railway and has legally seen
no claims to the land.
They shall have help and some money to resetle,yes.
But the NGOs role is debateable !
Constitutional amendment for Myanmar
You said and I quote:
“Bully for you if you look like a Mexican migrant worker and not an Islamic immigrant. Count your blessings and carry on sucking up to the WASPs”
Isn’t that an argumentum ad hominem?
Besides is there anything wrong about being an Islamic immigrant?
Constitutional amendment for Myanmar
The West my dear fellow means the white nations. From the frying pan into the fire is a very likely scenario for the people on a more sophisticated level with the generals and the cronies exponentially richer than ever.
Semantics on phobia does not make it “fear” in xenophobia or homophobia but hatred. You do not of course regardless of trolling all over the websites pushing this single issue agenda constitute a one man crusade against Chinese domination if you look at this piece in The Irrawaddy. No place for nationalist instincts that do not discriminate between East and West?
Bully for you if you look like a Mexican migrant worker and not an Islamic immigrant. Count your blessings and carry on sucking up to the WASPs. Staying on good terms with your neighbours, Thailand and Bangladesh included, doesn’t mean sucking up to them. Forgive me for being a hypocrite guilty of living in the West but unconvinced by its constant seizing the moral high ground, and seeing what it truly represents.
The secular democratic state
An outstanding article by Dr. Ahmad Farouk Musa…writing with the utmost clarity…he states rightly, “It must be stressed here that a call to establish a secular state is not similar in any ways to the call for secularising the society. A state should be secular in the sense that it is neutral to all the differing religious doctrines. It does not mean the exclusion of religion from the public life of a society. The misconception that it does, is one of the reasons many Muslims tend to be hostile towards the concept.” There is a need to separate religion from politics …and this article will hopefully result in a better understanding by many.
Behind Malaysia’s brain drain, surprise! Real people
There are many well-intentioned, hard-working people in Talentcorp, but their powers are *extremely* limited. To some extent, one could say that they were set up for failure.
Defending the monarchy
To Daniel
I was the chair of that panel at the AAS. Our dicussions surely touched upon the role of the monarchy in Thai politics and looked into the post-Bhumibol era to see how the monarchy would adapt itself. All discussions and comments were made based on academic arguments. But as we know, lese-majeste law can be elastic and its application can be highly abritary. It has long been used as a weapon to silence critics of the monarchy. On this basis, it is not surprising if the anxiety over the uncertain future of the monarchy would drive its defenders to apply lese majeste even against academics.
Defending the monarchy
If scholars participating in professional international academic events such as the Association for Asian Studies meetings, are being monitored, photographed, and backlisted by snoops from the Thai Foreign Ministry, then the Association for Asian Studies needs to be directly informed of this, and they need to take a stand and speak out against this !
Behind Malaysia’s brain drain, surprise! Real people
[…] our piece – – “Behind Malaysia’s Brain Drain, Surprise! Real People,” that ran Sunday in the New Mandala blog, hosted by the Australian National University (ANU) College […]
Defending the monarchy
I think I may speak for a few people here when I say that I am not sure if I can post my thoughts on this matter, even though I used to think I had some grasp on what was or was not lese majeste.
Pavin – if you check the comments, I have a question for you. In brief, do you have any idea what sort of comments and discussions made at this conference may be construed as lese majeste? I understand if you are prevented in anyway from answering this question.
By the way, “thumbs-up” this comment at your own risk.
Behind Malaysia’s brain drain, surprise! Real people
TalentCorp is fighting a losing battle if its task is to reverse the significant brain drain in Malaysia. For every Malaysian that it manages to bring home, hundreds head in the opposite direction, pushed out by the present governmental policies that smack of racism.
The far-better solution is to change the minority 47% government into a majority government that does not pander to racism or corruption. Many of us in the Malaysian diaspora would willingly return to help this new government rebuild the nation and restock its talents, without even the need for TalentCorp.
Constitutional amendment for Myanmar
Hla Oo’s Blog has this interesting take on Australian Labor’s attempt to push for constitutional amendment so that ASSK will become president after 2015 General Elections.
http://hlaoo1980.blogspot.com/2013/06/let-assk-be-president-in-2015-or-else.html
Defending the monarchy
How can we know you will not pass our data to NSA and our families will continue to be tortured.The whole Manadal may be a disinformation friont as used by the El Mosaq
Constitutional amendment for Myanmar
When you say “the West”, what do you mean?
Who’s exploiting Burma’s natural resources now? By the way “Sinophobic” actually should mean “afraid of China” (just look up what phobia means). If I would be afraid of Chinese I wouldn’t dare to complain about what they are doing in Burma, would I? I think Suu Kyi is more sinophobic than I am. She is so “circumspect” as you said LOL
I don’t know where you live, but since I am not a hypocrite, I would openly say that I definitely prefer to live in “the West” rather than in China (or in Singapore!) and where I live now (in Canada) there are a lot of noveau-riche relatives of Chinese “naked functionaries” who would unabashedly admit why they don’t want to go back to China (mainly because of pollution and the Communist Party they say). By the way, they normally don’t know that I am from Burma (I look a bit like a Mexican migrant worker LOL) so they will also quite openly tell me that all these periphery states like Burma have always been under the “Umbrella of the Greta Han Civilisation” and so should be part of China in the sense that they should remember that they are indeed Vassal States historically. It’s not just the mainland Chinese who think like that as you can see from the Taiwanese editorial I quoted. I’ve never been to Singapore and Hongkong but I am sure all the Chinese feel the same way about Burma – it’s imbedded in their Confucian culture – so just forget about Burmese “nationalistic instincts”. Chinese don’t care so if Burma wants to be a sovereign country with territorial integrity and political independence, they have to solve this “China menace”. No diplomatic sweet-talking and sugar-coating (we have to suck up to our powerful neighbours kinda thing)
Behind Malaysia’s brain drain, surprise! Real people
Talentcorp… did someone say Talencorp? A bunch of twenty something and early thirties sons of connected cronies, given a carte blanc budget to throw “info” parties around the world.