Longway concludes by stating: “So still think that the public want e PT to challenge the courts and change the constitution, which they are free to do if they hold a refendum and get permission from the people.”
In fact, this is not accurate in terms of what the constitution states regarding changing the constitution. A referendum is not required.
Thanks Ko sai Latt. The emergence of a alternative perspective on Burma’s historical evolution. Refreshing and hoping to see wether others will come out with counter factuals. The present is as history, but the history of the Burmese people has never been written from the “peoples perspective”.
Our brothers and from Shan, Kachin, Chin and Karen have lot patient and soft hearted and Bama general are misusing them. What resources Bama has in its pure Bama territory, if you take out the minorities states from main Burma. Nothing. Several billions dollars were wasted for building Nay Pyay Daw and most of the dollar were from GAS, precious stones and other mineral from these minorities territories.
If one reads the names of the buildings, roads and looks the statues from Nay Pyay Daw, one can realize the mindset of the generals. They are fond and proud of colonization of minorities state by their past kings. Especially Than Shwe. His wife likes to address her as May Daw
Cod,
I am disturbed that your friends are concerned about the bomb blasts in Boston but absolutely no concern about the daily drone attacks that murder many more people throughout the world. BOTH attacks by bomb or drone are terrorist in nature. Are your friends showing the Bangkok desease of “double standards”?
One thing is certain – “Mr. Peanut”, Jimmy Carter, will sooner or later, make an utterance that is so outrageous that he’ll embarrass the United States (but not himself, as he has no shame).
The biggest joke played on the world was when Carter was named as an “Elder”, which makes those not familiar with him think that he has incredible wisdom, and not the onset of Alzheimers that most Americans think he suffers from.
Perhaps Carter and plan B can confer, and come up with a statement that blames the west – and the U.S. in particular – for all of Burma’s woes.
as we all know, there is no union in the “union of myanmar”. bamars cheat on minorities, minorities cheat on each other (internally), and the current fight for autonomy (or federalism or self-rule or call-it-what-u-want) in kachin, shan and kayin state has all to do with money for a selective hole-in-the-wall/clique and has little to do with the basic rights of the simple man whose main concern is enough food to survive another day and shelter (decent education and healthcare are still science fiction at the moment).
there is no central power so whatever naypyidaw (mr president-puppet) decides, in the corners of the “union” (ie. ethnic-conflict-areas) people in charge (on both sides) still do what they want.
conclusion: no short-term solution is in sight, no matter how many more academic analysises we will be fed this year.
You guys just dont want to let this go, there is so much more wrong in thailand than what you are focusing on.
There are many things I could say, but there is no point.
All I will ask you is do you thinks that there is accountability and transperancy outside those protected by LM laws?
I think it doesn’t matter at all. A dual citizen is still entitled to consular protection/assistance, no matter which passport they use at a particular time. Apart from that, it should make no difference to the judicial process in principle (unless it’s an immigration matter) — the law should apply the same to everyone. Unfortunately, “Thailand” and “principle” do not mix together well.
Thaksin Shinawatra and his entourage are precisely the type of people who discard those who they no longer have any use for, no matter how much help they got in the past.
He’s done it countless times before. Use and discard principle (the further away the better, disgruntled friends can be more dangerous than enemies). No different with Red Shirts, they won’t move a finger to help them unless they can directly gain from it (simply from the sense of obligation).
Thaksin and Yingluck might be a capable leaders, but I doubt they’re bound by many moral scruples or lasting feelings of gratitude/debt.
As an American citizen I have an American passport. I traveled to Thailand with a tourist visa in late 2009 Later on, I applied for one year visa. Then, I registered online with the American Embassy in Thailand
But my case is not about my visa. The Thai authority arrested and charged me of lese majeste which dated back in 2007. In fact, I was in Colorado and nothing in my Thai or English names in the banned book.
There is no justice in Thailand. Thailand does not respect international rules, particularly the right to freedom of expression in accordance with international standards.
He didn’t say that, but it would be legal and more sensible to enter on a Thai passport if you have one. The most obvious advantage is there’s no limit on how long you can stay.
Doubting Thomas: You seem to have no problem with arbitrary arrest and absurd prison terms for phoney and outrageous Lese Majeste charges based on translations from a Yale University Press book yet an obsessive interest in Joe Gordon’s personal travel details. Are you a troll or just a run-of-the-mill Thai Royalist?
Just a simple question:
I learned that foreigners in Thailand can be blamed for 112
I learned that 112 even if it happens outside of Thailand can be tried in Thailand (if the person move there)
I learned that anybody in Thailand (I assume a Thai citizen) can bring forward 112
Can a Thai or foreigner bring up a 112 case? Especially if the 112 took place abroad?
In other words, how internationally valid is 112? Would it not be better to hand it over to the court in The Hague?
The Shan rebellion was in fact similar to other rebellions during that time (holy men revolts etc.) In these we have a combination between local elites, peasants and charismatic leaders fighting against the increases in centralization of more or less colonial regimes, and the spread of the colonial market economy. After the local elites were coopted into the new central elite, the revolts continued as peasant revolts, and were brutally supressed. (I use the term “colonial”, because these happened as well in Burma, Vietnam and Indonesia at more or less the same time. Nothing specially Siamese)
Although the local elites often refered to themselves in royal terms, it can be doubted whether the political systems could be described as “monarchic”.
I am curious as to how much the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs pays “Doubting Thomas” per post. I hear the Chinese pay their false flag posters about 20 cents (USD) per post. One would hope due to “Doubting Thomas’s” apparent fluency in English that he/she would command a higher rate.
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Longway concludes by stating: “So still think that the public want e PT to challenge the courts and change the constitution, which they are free to do if they hold a refendum and get permission from the people.”
In fact, this is not accurate in terms of what the constitution states regarding changing the constitution. A referendum is not required.
Colonialism and ethnic conflict in Burma
Thanks Ko sai Latt. The emergence of a alternative perspective on Burma’s historical evolution. Refreshing and hoping to see wether others will come out with counter factuals. The present is as history, but the history of the Burmese people has never been written from the “peoples perspective”.
Colonialism and ethnic conflict in Burma
Our brothers and from Shan, Kachin, Chin and Karen have lot patient and soft hearted and Bama general are misusing them. What resources Bama has in its pure Bama territory, if you take out the minorities states from main Burma. Nothing. Several billions dollars were wasted for building Nay Pyay Daw and most of the dollar were from GAS, precious stones and other mineral from these minorities territories.
If one reads the names of the buildings, roads and looks the statues from Nay Pyay Daw, one can realize the mindset of the generals. They are fond and proud of colonization of minorities state by their past kings. Especially Than Shwe. His wife likes to address her as May Daw
Don’t forget home
Cod,
I am disturbed that your friends are concerned about the bomb blasts in Boston but absolutely no concern about the daily drone attacks that murder many more people throughout the world. BOTH attacks by bomb or drone are terrorist in nature. Are your friends showing the Bangkok desease of “double standards”?
Colonialism and ethnic conflict in Burma
One thing is certain – “Mr. Peanut”, Jimmy Carter, will sooner or later, make an utterance that is so outrageous that he’ll embarrass the United States (but not himself, as he has no shame).
The biggest joke played on the world was when Carter was named as an “Elder”, which makes those not familiar with him think that he has incredible wisdom, and not the onset of Alzheimers that most Americans think he suffers from.
Perhaps Carter and plan B can confer, and come up with a statement that blames the west – and the U.S. in particular – for all of Burma’s woes.
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
You can not apply for a one year extension on a tourist visa.
Your visa and passport are relevant since it was made an issue as a key point of your defence.
Many countries, including the United States, claim extraterritorial jurisdiction with respect to certain crimes. This is nothing unique to Thailand.
Colonialism and ethnic conflict in Burma
as we all know, there is no union in the “union of myanmar”. bamars cheat on minorities, minorities cheat on each other (internally), and the current fight for autonomy (or federalism or self-rule or call-it-what-u-want) in kachin, shan and kayin state has all to do with money for a selective hole-in-the-wall/clique and has little to do with the basic rights of the simple man whose main concern is enough food to survive another day and shelter (decent education and healthcare are still science fiction at the moment).
there is no central power so whatever naypyidaw (mr president-puppet) decides, in the corners of the “union” (ie. ethnic-conflict-areas) people in charge (on both sides) still do what they want.
conclusion: no short-term solution is in sight, no matter how many more academic analysises we will be fed this year.
Paul Handley replies to comments
You guys just dont want to let this go, there is so much more wrong in thailand than what you are focusing on.
There are many things I could say, but there is no point.
All I will ask you is do you thinks that there is accountability and transperancy outside those protected by LM laws?
Colonialism and ethnic conflict in Burma
A very interesting article which needs re reading in order to give a good response.
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
Thank you for clarifying.
I think it doesn’t matter at all. A dual citizen is still entitled to consular protection/assistance, no matter which passport they use at a particular time. Apart from that, it should make no difference to the judicial process in principle (unless it’s an immigration matter) — the law should apply the same to everyone. Unfortunately, “Thailand” and “principle” do not mix together well.
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
Thaksin Shinawatra and his entourage are precisely the type of people who discard those who they no longer have any use for, no matter how much help they got in the past.
He’s done it countless times before. Use and discard principle (the further away the better, disgruntled friends can be more dangerous than enemies). No different with Red Shirts, they won’t move a finger to help them unless they can directly gain from it (simply from the sense of obligation).
Thaksin and Yingluck might be a capable leaders, but I doubt they’re bound by many moral scruples or lasting feelings of gratitude/debt.
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
As an American citizen I have an American passport. I traveled to Thailand with a tourist visa in late 2009 Later on, I applied for one year visa. Then, I registered online with the American Embassy in Thailand
But my case is not about my visa. The Thai authority arrested and charged me of lese majeste which dated back in 2007. In fact, I was in Colorado and nothing in my Thai or English names in the banned book.
There is no justice in Thailand. Thailand does not respect international rules, particularly the right to freedom of expression in accordance with international standards.
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
DT, why are you asking?
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
He didn’t say that, but it would be legal and more sensible to enter on a Thai passport if you have one. The most obvious advantage is there’s no limit on how long you can stay.
Why is that relevant to his story anyway?
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
Doubting Thomas: You seem to have no problem with arbitrary arrest and absurd prison terms for phoney and outrageous Lese Majeste charges based on translations from a Yale University Press book yet an obsessive interest in Joe Gordon’s personal travel details. Are you a troll or just a run-of-the-mill Thai Royalist?
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
Just a simple question:
I learned that foreigners in Thailand can be blamed for 112
I learned that 112 even if it happens outside of Thailand can be tried in Thailand (if the person move there)
I learned that anybody in Thailand (I assume a Thai citizen) can bring forward 112
Can a Thai or foreigner bring up a 112 case? Especially if the 112 took place abroad?
In other words, how internationally valid is 112? Would it not be better to hand it over to the court in The Hague?
Thailand’s royal histories
The Shan rebellion was in fact similar to other rebellions during that time (holy men revolts etc.) In these we have a combination between local elites, peasants and charismatic leaders fighting against the increases in centralization of more or less colonial regimes, and the spread of the colonial market economy. After the local elites were coopted into the new central elite, the revolts continued as peasant revolts, and were brutally supressed. (I use the term “colonial”, because these happened as well in Burma, Vietnam and Indonesia at more or less the same time. Nothing specially Siamese)
Although the local elites often refered to themselves in royal terms, it can be doubted whether the political systems could be described as “monarchic”.
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
what is the problem with the nationality ?
what┬┤s about human rights and freedom of expression ?
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
I am curious as to how much the Thai Ministry of Foreign Affairs pays “Doubting Thomas” per post. I hear the Chinese pay their false flag posters about 20 cents (USD) per post. One would hope due to “Doubting Thomas’s” apparent fluency in English that he/she would command a higher rate.
Interview with Joe Gordon: Lèse majesté and democracy
Joe, what type of visa did you have?