Admittedly off the track, the descriptions of CT @1 would also describe any real or perceived slight on Aung San Suu Kyi as well. Except that the attacking forces would also involve foreigners.
Even with her full and unconditional endorsement of the military, and their policies to the letter, which was only months ago supposed by herself to be bad.
Whether the people tortured and killed in Kachin land feel the same would never be known.
CT #1, why would Thaksin pay Ms. Fitzgerald to make such comments?
Pol. Lt. Col. Dr. Thaksin is on record countless times averring his boundless love for his king and his (her) government has also made its defence of Section 112 as it stands and as it is currently implemented crystal clear. His budget for foreign lobbyists is extremely tight because they churlishly demand cash rather than promises of future government jobs and he doesn’t pay them to cause trouble for his own government and its policies.
Ms. Fitzgerald should forget about those treacherous miscreants rotting in prison for not loving the king and understand that the country needs to move onwards and upwards towards the overarching goal of national reconciliation and home coming.
Plan B,
it is unfortunate that you cover yourself by not even using any name.
The Thai employers have imunity against prosecution as the military like the way they operate and are completely zenophobic and ruthless. Until Thailand gets real democracy with proper structures in place I cannot see any real change. Bangkok is treated as the centre of the universe and everywhere else is treated as servants to the elite (Without any rights). Not only SE Asian farang are treated with disdain but indiginous hill tribes have suffered at the hands of the establishment, with land grabs, rapes and even murders being reported. I cannot verify this as it comes under the Lese Majeste laws.
You obviously failed to read previous statements concerning socialism. As socialism has not operated in any country at any time how can you associate it with totalitarianism and dictatorships?
Aung Moe,
Perhaps the USA can build cars in Burma where they can treat workers as badly as they want.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the government ended up endowing the King Bhumibol Adulyadej Professor of Thai Studies… Or to be suitably ironic, the Professor of Thai Political Development Studies 🙂 I’m reminded of the Libyan fiasco.
Abhisit set out to achieve his dream of becoming one of Thailand’s greatest prime ministers. Instead, he joined the ranks of Thanom Kittikachorn and Suchinda Kraprayoon…
ANU should build the Thai Studies centre its own modern cubism-inspired building with a royal wat for merit making (lots of merit needs to be made) so as to prevent a mass exodus. With Harvard in the game did things just get real?
“rights and liberties of the citizens, who, according to the Constitution they serve and protect, hold the sovereign power in the land.
True — but the citizens are not permitted to exercise their sovereign power. Section 3 of the constitution reads, “The sovereign power belongs to the Thai people. The King as Head of the State shall exercise such power through the National Assembly, the Council of Ministers and the Courts in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution.”
Thus, the Constitution Court has to look up to the king, especially since this is about LM.
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The present Thai Constitutional Court does nothing more than codify the arbitrary desires of the country’s most powerful people. The very idea that a Court could get in the way of power is confined to civilised countries which celebrate the heroic struggle by people of principle against arbitrary power.
Thailand’s unsung hero is Pridi Banomyong. When Pridi is given the status of a George Washington, and the current monarchist/military tyranny is looked back on with disgust, Thailand will have joined the ranks of civilised countries.
There was also the Prince from Lichtenstein who, following the 60th anniversary celebrations, decided to have a few days in a “Wellness Spa” – what ever that might be – and ended up overstaying his visa. Instead of simply paying the overstay fine he attempted to change the date on the passport.
Immigration spotted this and, unaware of who he was, threw him in the IDC where he subsequently died as he couldn’t get access to his insulin.
Dear Elizabeth, your article is well reasoned and well argumented and all. However, bear in mind that the Royalist Thais will have this to say in response to your article:
1) You are a foreigner. You don’t understand Thailand. Therefore you have no right to critique our system.
2) We Thais love our King. You do not know our feelings because you have no King like us.
3) We are happy with the way our country is. If you are not happy, don’t visit Thailand. You are not welcome.
4) If you study our (distorted) history, you will know that Thai Kings protect Thailand from colonisation. We are forever grateful for the bravery of our King and anyone who does not love him is a threat to our country’s security. They need to be be-headed.
5) You should know that we are taught, through our (distorted and indoctrinated) education system to love our King, to sing songs to praise our King. You have never experienced any of this so you don’t know how hurtful we feel when you criticise your country.
6) You are paid by Thaksin. How much did he pay you?
Please note these are the most polite responses from royalists. There are many more rude responses, some go as far as a death threat, jail threat, mob violence threat, in which I shall not attempt to copy/paste here. You can go to Facebook.com and use google translation on various “We love the King” pages in Facebook to read such threats.
Please read the CNN article at this link how the extremely-powerful unionized American labor is hemorrhaging the 3 big American car manufacturers to near death well before the 2008 GFC.
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Dangerous lack of clarity from Thailand’s Constitutional Court
Don’t you people know by now that this constitutional court is a farce?
Dangerous lack of clarity from Thailand’s Constitutional Court
Admittedly off the track, the descriptions of CT @1 would also describe any real or perceived slight on Aung San Suu Kyi as well. Except that the attacking forces would also involve foreigners.
Even with her full and unconditional endorsement of the military, and their policies to the letter, which was only months ago supposed by herself to be bad.
Whether the people tortured and killed in Kachin land feel the same would never be known.
Lese majeste makes it to UK parliament
Andrew Spooner #17. I accept your wise comments.
Dangerous lack of clarity from Thailand’s Constitutional Court
CT #1, why would Thaksin pay Ms. Fitzgerald to make such comments?
Pol. Lt. Col. Dr. Thaksin is on record countless times averring his boundless love for his king and his (her) government has also made its defence of Section 112 as it stands and as it is currently implemented crystal clear. His budget for foreign lobbyists is extremely tight because they churlishly demand cash rather than promises of future government jobs and he doesn’t pay them to cause trouble for his own government and its policies.
Ms. Fitzgerald should forget about those treacherous miscreants rotting in prison for not loving the king and understand that the country needs to move onwards and upwards towards the overarching goal of national reconciliation and home coming.
Anatomy of a Burmese migrant strike
Plan B,
it is unfortunate that you cover yourself by not even using any name.
The Thai employers have imunity against prosecution as the military like the way they operate and are completely zenophobic and ruthless. Until Thailand gets real democracy with proper structures in place I cannot see any real change. Bangkok is treated as the centre of the universe and everywhere else is treated as servants to the elite (Without any rights). Not only SE Asian farang are treated with disdain but indiginous hill tribes have suffered at the hands of the establishment, with land grabs, rapes and even murders being reported. I cannot verify this as it comes under the Lese Majeste laws.
You obviously failed to read previous statements concerning socialism. As socialism has not operated in any country at any time how can you associate it with totalitarianism and dictatorships?
Aung Moe,
Perhaps the USA can build cars in Burma where they can treat workers as badly as they want.
Thai Studies at Harvard
I wouldn’t be surprised if the government ended up endowing the King Bhumibol Adulyadej Professor of Thai Studies… Or to be suitably ironic, the Professor of Thai Political Development Studies 🙂 I’m reminded of the Libyan fiasco.
Time for an Oxford Scholar
Abhisit set out to achieve his dream of becoming one of Thailand’s greatest prime ministers. Instead, he joined the ranks of Thanom Kittikachorn and Suchinda Kraprayoon…
Thai Studies at Harvard
ANU should build the Thai Studies centre its own modern cubism-inspired building with a royal wat for merit making (lots of merit needs to be made) so as to prevent a mass exodus. With Harvard in the game did things just get real?
Dangerous lack of clarity from Thailand’s Constitutional Court
“rights and liberties of the citizens, who, according to the Constitution they serve and protect, hold the sovereign power in the land.
True — but the citizens are not permitted to exercise their sovereign power. Section 3 of the constitution reads, “The sovereign power belongs to the Thai people. The King as Head of the State shall exercise such power through the National Assembly, the Council of Ministers and the Courts in accordance with the provisions of this Constitution.”
Thus, the Constitution Court has to look up to the king, especially since this is about LM.
Thai Studies at Harvard
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Thai Studies at Harvard
“Harvard University is ranked number one of the top 100 universities” – the Nation’s writers do my head in.
Vajiralongkorn on “roll of dishonour”
The Thais got off lightly with this one – still I think sending him was a show of naivety on Thailand’s part.
Spain didn’t attend either – some sulk about a big rock (no, not a diamond).
Dangerous lack of clarity from Thailand’s Constitutional Court
The present Thai Constitutional Court does nothing more than codify the arbitrary desires of the country’s most powerful people. The very idea that a Court could get in the way of power is confined to civilised countries which celebrate the heroic struggle by people of principle against arbitrary power.
Thailand’s unsung hero is Pridi Banomyong. When Pridi is given the status of a George Washington, and the current monarchist/military tyranny is looked back on with disgust, Thailand will have joined the ranks of civilised countries.
Vajiralongkorn on “roll of dishonour”
Thanks JL,
New Mandala readers not aware of this incident will find this British report provides the key details; there is some further information here.
Best wishes to all,
Nich
Vajiralongkorn on “roll of dishonour”
There was also the Prince from Lichtenstein who, following the 60th anniversary celebrations, decided to have a few days in a “Wellness Spa” – what ever that might be – and ended up overstaying his visa. Instead of simply paying the overstay fine he attempted to change the date on the passport.
Immigration spotted this and, unaware of who he was, threw him in the IDC where he subsequently died as he couldn’t get access to his insulin.
Time for an Oxford Scholar
Untruthful? My nephew Algernon? Impossible he is an Oxonian!
(Oscar Wilde)
Dangerous lack of clarity from Thailand’s Constitutional Court
Dear Elizabeth, your article is well reasoned and well argumented and all. However, bear in mind that the Royalist Thais will have this to say in response to your article:
1) You are a foreigner. You don’t understand Thailand. Therefore you have no right to critique our system.
2) We Thais love our King. You do not know our feelings because you have no King like us.
3) We are happy with the way our country is. If you are not happy, don’t visit Thailand. You are not welcome.
4) If you study our (distorted) history, you will know that Thai Kings protect Thailand from colonisation. We are forever grateful for the bravery of our King and anyone who does not love him is a threat to our country’s security. They need to be be-headed.
5) You should know that we are taught, through our (distorted and indoctrinated) education system to love our King, to sing songs to praise our King. You have never experienced any of this so you don’t know how hurtful we feel when you criticise your country.
6) You are paid by Thaksin. How much did he pay you?
Please note these are the most polite responses from royalists. There are many more rude responses, some go as far as a death threat, jail threat, mob violence threat, in which I shall not attempt to copy/paste here. You can go to Facebook.com and use google translation on various “We love the King” pages in Facebook to read such threats.
Regards
Time for an Oxford Scholar
He had better enjoy what he has, for his political career is over.
Anatomy of a Burmese migrant strike
Please read the CNN article at this link how the extremely-powerful unionized American labor is hemorrhaging the 3 big American car manufacturers to near death well before the 2008 GFC.
http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/26/news/companies/pluggedin_taylor_ford.fortune/index.htm
Anatomy of a Burmese migrant strike
Socialism is just one of the many faces of totalitarianism that encompass dictatorship in every forms.
So please stop splitting penny when describing Ne Win Ruinous BSPP idiocy, followed by “you know what”.
The good news is these slavish refugees are having their ways 2┬║ to lack of cheap labor due to:
1) Lack of new displaced/easily exploitable mainly Karen refugees.
2) Refugees Returning back to Myanmar due to better condition.
#46 /
Do not ever forget what the Thai Bosses are capable of union or not.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12881982
The testimonial to Thai mistreatment of Myanmar refugees are unmarked graves of Myanmar refugees in the fields Thailand.
still awaiting justice.