Whatever how Mussolini died, the point is people of Italy killing him for his war crime that is the contrast of Siam people making a war crime dictator Phibun as a Thai prime minister and plus accepting their country changing its name from Siam to Thai by a war crime dictator loser while millions of innocent people of SEA and the allied died without justice.
As to the Thai actress, she did claim Angkor Wat belonging to Thailand when she was interview by journalist on TV. You don’t know it just like the rest of Thai people don’t know it because the Thai govt removed the interview hiding away from Thai people.
Khmer don’t change Khmer identity for more than 2000 years from a small Kingdom to a Great Empire and back to a small Kingdom again today. Khmer don’t change identity like Thai even Khmer had been trough in hell; Khmer still love Khmer identity using the letters KH on passport and on internet for Khmer identity wherever Khmer go around the globe today.
Khmer politicians don’t play the nationalist card invading Thailand, but Thai politicians play the nationalist card invading Cambodia and they got caught themselves on their own camera in Cambodia.
Do you know why the PAD can use the yellow color, a symbol of the Thai King and no lese-majeste against them? Let me tell you why, because the royal Thai family is behind them. One of the royal Thai families traveled to Cambodia asking Hun Sen to release a PAD member Veera Somswaki from Cambodia jail.
Have you ever seen any country in the world allowing their people yelling and insulting other country on TV everyday like the PAD in Thailand? The yellow PAD can’t win the majority of Thai people but they can go screwing the red shirts in Thailand if Yinglack allow the red shirts to meet Thaksin in Thailand and that’s why you have Hun Sen allowing his free vehicles to pick up the red shirts from border to meet Thaksin in Cambodia and that what this topic is all about.
Mussolini’s body was hung up with a meat hook 24 hours after he was shot dead.
Regarding the words of the Thai actress that prompted Cambodians to go on the rampage, she never said any of that stuff and you know it. And whatever she did say was several years prior.
This could be all summed up by taking a market orientation towards agriculture. The “industry” has for far too long left matters for the government to take the lead and this “mindset” has failed the nation. Agriculture is a business just like any other and requires business practices just like any other industry sectors, not a centralized planning approach. This approach should have died with the old Soviet Union.
True, aiontay. There has been a consensus behind the support for ASSK, and now Messrs. Webb, McCain and Mitchell are all endorsing the great reforming president. Others such as Kurt Campbell however aren’t so ready to throw caution to the wind, although you get the feeling they are really all in it together since what is to them fundamentally at stake is Burma joining the new world order. So a convergence of interests and a joint effort can be expected, and the Kachin’s plight will be relegated to a lower level of priorities.
Mussolini was hanged before shooting and his body was destroyed by Italians.
As to the Thai Embassy burning, it was created by Thailand itself. You did not hear anyone from the world complaining about Cambodia except Thailand itself.
Thailand used the Thai famous actress claiming Angkor Wat that fly on Cambodia flag, a symbol of Khmer nation belonging to Thailand. When famous people talked, people believed, especially Thai people. Cambodia’s market was burned by the Thai armies at Preah Vihear Temple costing over one million and Preah Vihear temple itself was very damaged by the Thai tanks!!!!
Khmer people love their temples and they do anything to protect their temples. Khmer people already killed the Siamese armies when the Siamese King Mongkut ordered his Siamese armies to steal Angkor Wat stones piece by piece and bring to Bangkok, but Khmer people came out and killed all the Siamese armies.
Khmer King AngChan named a Cambodia province Siem Reap where Khmer crushed Siamese like bugs under Khmer feet due to their stubborn thief never give up of stealing Khmer temples. Until today, they still claimed Khmer Preah Vihear temple and its surrounding land belonging to them. Thailand has been is ruling by the armies and the Thai PM must listen to the Thai armies. There is no way that Cambodia can live in peace with Thailand.
‘ Red shirts supporters who have been naively looking to Puea Thai to reform Section 112 had better start looking for another colour shirt because it ain’t never gonna happen. ‘
I think you’re right there, although I’m not as happy about their betrayal by Puea Thai as as you seem to be.
An interesting story over at zenjournalist with all the details of what was really in the SMS messages.They are towards the bottom of the post. Do not read read them if you are squeamish about rough language.
It will give you a rough idea what gets you 20 years in the slammer, or in this case a death sentence.
Thanks to PPT for the link.
I think Andrew MacGregor Marshall would have it. A lot of his Thai friends on Facebook translated for him. But what I said above that the Royalists were happy that Ar Kong died was the gist of their thinking. I would not urge you to read those Royalists’ comments in full. They are unbelievably ignorant, pathetic, brainwashed, brutal, barbaric, and disgusting. Even I could not stand reading more than ten of such comments. As a Thai, I feel unbelievably sad and frustrated that my fellow countrymen have this kind of mentality.
John Francis Lee #40. I would certainly not absolve Somkiat Krongwattanasuk for pressing ahead with the senseless prosecution over some trivial childish messages received on his phone from someone he didn’t even know. Nor would I absolve Abhisit Vejjajiva, who was surely consulted, for not advising him to just delete the mystery messages and move on with his life.
Equally you are right in assigning blame to the Puea Thai party for doing nothing to try to unravel any of the unjust messes being caused by Section 112 prosecutions. This is apart from their policy of explicit support for Section 112 as it stands, which they obviously see as a way to demonstrate their questionable loyalty and a useful tool for them to use against political rivals. Why on earth would they wish to defang or abolish something so politically useful? Such a reform would also inevitably lead in short order to calls to reform the commoner equivalent of Section 112 which is the notorious, archaic criminal libel law that has been used by Thaksin with enormous gusto to silence critics and political rivals. His asinine comments on Section 112 stuttered to the adoring red shirt crowd give a clear indication of his stalwart support for it. Red shirts supporters who have been naively looking to Puea Thai to reform Section 112 had better start looking for another colour shirt because it ain’t never gonna happen.
Let it also be said that Ah Kong was equally a victim the anti-monarchy wing of the red shirt movement that he got mixed up with without understanding what it was or how ruthlessly and cynically it would exploit him,
Beg your pardon, did the red shirt somehow got the old man arrest? Furthermore, it would have been a non-issue if the royalist didn’t come up with the law in the first place. Noted that Ar kong is not the first victim here, there were hundreds other that has been convicted from this grotesque law. By the law of nature, there’s no reaction without an action.
His red shirt lawyer advised him that he could get him off, if he pleaded not guilty, and proceeded to mount a feeble defence that he knew would result in conviction and a stiff sentence,
Where on earth did you get that info from?? Anon Nampa, his lawyer, used to be in the yellow shirt camp even, you can check his facebook for all the story. Furthermore, according to the man himself, he has already discussed the posible option whether to plead guilty or not, you can go to the man facebook and ask him.
Given the confusion surrounding the actual sending of the SMS messages, and the failure of the defence team to provide convincing evidence that the messages could have been sent remotely, it would not be at all surprising if the messages were deliberately sent by a fellow red shirt activist to set him up.
If you read the case you should know that the defendant has already pointed out that EMI number is not a unique no. and rather easy to forge. Again, where did you get all that from?? dont tell me you read it from the like of Nation or Manager.
Your post has no factual content and looks like nothing more than an failed attempt to blame the crimes of the elite on the red shirts. But as the votes indicate, people are much smarter than the right wingers, junta apologists and ultra-royalists think they are.
Ar Kong’s death is the best possible outcome for the royalist.
As long as he live, he’ll continue to be a thorn and a symbol.
He’s frail, old, and (luckily) have cancer. Cancer kill him, period.
This will all be swept under the rug and mainstream medias will continue to report which celeb f*ck whom.
No body want to stir the shit pot, especially for a dead, poor (literally) old man.
the case against Surapot goes back to 2010 (Somsak #25) http://www.newmandala.org/2011/12/13/another-academic-victim-of-112/
In fact LM cases in the legal process now are not of this government’s tenure. Remember, while allocating blame, everyone is controlled by amaat forces that are situated outside the control of this elected government. Reforming the constitution, which is feasible under this government, must be a priority to change the repressive falange parastatal apparatus (and of course its codes such as 112).
Jack Radcliffe: Isn’t the summary CT provided enough? I imagine a few of the comments are personally directed at Ah Kong and I wouldn’t want to read any of them in this thread. Let us reserve some sanctity for Ah Kong
Jonathan, the situation is a complex one – but it is unfolding/unravelling rapidly.
As far as western ‘intervention’ goes, I don’t think there is any credible organisation/nation that could perform such a task, nor do I think it would be the right thing to do.
This situation is going to be played out domestically. The outcome at the moment is impossible to predict.
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Songkran in Cambodia: Red Shirts meet Thaksin
To Jon Wright #140
Whatever how Mussolini died, the point is people of Italy killing him for his war crime that is the contrast of Siam people making a war crime dictator Phibun as a Thai prime minister and plus accepting their country changing its name from Siam to Thai by a war crime dictator loser while millions of innocent people of SEA and the allied died without justice.
As to the Thai actress, she did claim Angkor Wat belonging to Thailand when she was interview by journalist on TV. You don’t know it just like the rest of Thai people don’t know it because the Thai govt removed the interview hiding away from Thai people.
Songkran in Cambodia: Red Shirts meet Thaksin
To Dan #136
Khmer don’t change Khmer identity for more than 2000 years from a small Kingdom to a Great Empire and back to a small Kingdom again today. Khmer don’t change identity like Thai even Khmer had been trough in hell; Khmer still love Khmer identity using the letters KH on passport and on internet for Khmer identity wherever Khmer go around the globe today.
Khmer politicians don’t play the nationalist card invading Thailand, but Thai politicians play the nationalist card invading Cambodia and they got caught themselves on their own camera in Cambodia.
Watch this video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6ZW1VTWgpg
Do you know why the PAD can use the yellow color, a symbol of the Thai King and no lese-majeste against them? Let me tell you why, because the royal Thai family is behind them. One of the royal Thai families traveled to Cambodia asking Hun Sen to release a PAD member Veera Somswaki from Cambodia jail.
Have you ever seen any country in the world allowing their people yelling and insulting other country on TV everyday like the PAD in Thailand? The yellow PAD can’t win the majority of Thai people but they can go screwing the red shirts in Thailand if Yinglack allow the red shirts to meet Thaksin in Thailand and that’s why you have Hun Sen allowing his free vehicles to pick up the red shirts from border to meet Thaksin in Cambodia and that what this topic is all about.
Songkran in Cambodia: Red Shirts meet Thaksin
Phala:
Mussolini’s body was hung up with a meat hook 24 hours after he was shot dead.
Regarding the words of the Thai actress that prompted Cambodians to go on the rampage, she never said any of that stuff and you know it. And whatever she did say was several years prior.
Agriculture in Malaysia’s economic and social transformation
This could be all summed up by taking a market orientation towards agriculture. The “industry” has for far too long left matters for the government to take the lead and this “mindset” has failed the nation. Agriculture is a business just like any other and requires business practices just like any other industry sectors, not a centralized planning approach. This approach should have died with the old Soviet Union.
Ar Kong dead
Thanks for the link to A tale of two grandfathers. I missed it at PPT.
It is a terse statement of the facts of Amphon’s and justice’ abuse by the Royalist ‘elite’ and the irony of the parallel drawn rings true.
Kachin media war continues
True, aiontay. There has been a consensus behind the support for ASSK, and now Messrs. Webb, McCain and Mitchell are all endorsing the great reforming president. Others such as Kurt Campbell however aren’t so ready to throw caution to the wind, although you get the feeling they are really all in it together since what is to them fundamentally at stake is Burma joining the new world order. So a convergence of interests and a joint effort can be expected, and the Kachin’s plight will be relegated to a lower level of priorities.
Songkran in Cambodia: Red Shirts meet Thaksin
@Dan #137
You liked the Bangkok Post?
Watch this video how the Bangkok Post became unprofessional.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piAfQsJKdIs
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Songkran in Cambodia: Red Shirts meet Thaksin
@Jon Wright #135
Google search Mussolini hung and click on images, you will see the pictures of Mussolini hanging in Italy.
Or you can watch YouTube video here how
Mussolini was hanged.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9AAnXo0F5c
Mussolini was hanged before shooting and his body was destroyed by Italians.
As to the Thai Embassy burning, it was created by Thailand itself. You did not hear anyone from the world complaining about Cambodia except Thailand itself.
Thailand used the Thai famous actress claiming Angkor Wat that fly on Cambodia flag, a symbol of Khmer nation belonging to Thailand. When famous people talked, people believed, especially Thai people. Cambodia’s market was burned by the Thai armies at Preah Vihear Temple costing over one million and Preah Vihear temple itself was very damaged by the Thai tanks!!!!
Khmer people love their temples and they do anything to protect their temples. Khmer people already killed the Siamese armies when the Siamese King Mongkut ordered his Siamese armies to steal Angkor Wat stones piece by piece and bring to Bangkok, but Khmer people came out and killed all the Siamese armies.
Khmer King AngChan named a Cambodia province Siem Reap where Khmer crushed Siamese like bugs under Khmer feet due to their stubborn thief never give up of stealing Khmer temples. Until today, they still claimed Khmer Preah Vihear temple and its surrounding land belonging to them. Thailand has been is ruling by the armies and the Thai PM must listen to the Thai armies. There is no way that Cambodia can live in peace with Thailand.
Ar Kong dead
‘ Red shirts supporters who have been naively looking to Puea Thai to reform Section 112 had better start looking for another colour shirt because it ain’t never gonna happen. ‘
I think you’re right there, although I’m not as happy about their betrayal by Puea Thai as as you seem to be.
Ar Kong dead
An interesting story over at zenjournalist with all the details of what was really in the SMS messages.They are towards the bottom of the post. Do not read read them if you are squeamish about rough language.
It will give you a rough idea what gets you 20 years in the slammer, or in this case a death sentence.
Thanks to PPT for the link.
http://www.zenjournalist.com/2012/05/a-tale-of-two-grandfathers/
Ar Kong dead
@Jack #41
I think Andrew MacGregor Marshall would have it. A lot of his Thai friends on Facebook translated for him. But what I said above that the Royalists were happy that Ar Kong died was the gist of their thinking. I would not urge you to read those Royalists’ comments in full. They are unbelievably ignorant, pathetic, brainwashed, brutal, barbaric, and disgusting. Even I could not stand reading more than ten of such comments. As a Thai, I feel unbelievably sad and frustrated that my fellow countrymen have this kind of mentality.
Ar Kong dead
John Francis Lee #40. I would certainly not absolve Somkiat Krongwattanasuk for pressing ahead with the senseless prosecution over some trivial childish messages received on his phone from someone he didn’t even know. Nor would I absolve Abhisit Vejjajiva, who was surely consulted, for not advising him to just delete the mystery messages and move on with his life.
Equally you are right in assigning blame to the Puea Thai party for doing nothing to try to unravel any of the unjust messes being caused by Section 112 prosecutions. This is apart from their policy of explicit support for Section 112 as it stands, which they obviously see as a way to demonstrate their questionable loyalty and a useful tool for them to use against political rivals. Why on earth would they wish to defang or abolish something so politically useful? Such a reform would also inevitably lead in short order to calls to reform the commoner equivalent of Section 112 which is the notorious, archaic criminal libel law that has been used by Thaksin with enormous gusto to silence critics and political rivals. His asinine comments on Section 112 stuttered to the adoring red shirt crowd give a clear indication of his stalwart support for it. Red shirts supporters who have been naively looking to Puea Thai to reform Section 112 had better start looking for another colour shirt because it ain’t never gonna happen.
Ar Kong dead
Marteau 38
Let it also be said that Ah Kong was equally a victim the anti-monarchy wing of the red shirt movement that he got mixed up with without understanding what it was or how ruthlessly and cynically it would exploit him,
Beg your pardon, did the red shirt somehow got the old man arrest? Furthermore, it would have been a non-issue if the royalist didn’t come up with the law in the first place. Noted that Ar kong is not the first victim here, there were hundreds other that has been convicted from this grotesque law. By the law of nature, there’s no reaction without an action.
His red shirt lawyer advised him that he could get him off, if he pleaded not guilty, and proceeded to mount a feeble defence that he knew would result in conviction and a stiff sentence,
Where on earth did you get that info from?? Anon Nampa, his lawyer, used to be in the yellow shirt camp even, you can check his facebook for all the story. Furthermore, according to the man himself, he has already discussed the posible option whether to plead guilty or not, you can go to the man facebook and ask him.
Given the confusion surrounding the actual sending of the SMS messages, and the failure of the defence team to provide convincing evidence that the messages could have been sent remotely, it would not be at all surprising if the messages were deliberately sent by a fellow red shirt activist to set him up.
If you read the case you should know that the defendant has already pointed out that EMI number is not a unique no. and rather easy to forge. Again, where did you get all that from?? dont tell me you read it from the like of Nation or Manager.
Ar Kong dead
Marteau #38,
Your post has no factual content and looks like nothing more than an failed attempt to blame the crimes of the elite on the red shirts. But as the votes indicate, people are much smarter than the right wingers, junta apologists and ultra-royalists think they are.
Ar Kong dead
Ar Kong’s death is the best possible outcome for the royalist.
As long as he live, he’ll continue to be a thorn and a symbol.
He’s frail, old, and (luckily) have cancer. Cancer kill him, period.
This will all be swept under the rug and mainstream medias will continue to report which celeb f*ck whom.
No body want to stir the shit pot, especially for a dead, poor (literally) old man.
Thailand’s Fearlessness: Free Akong
the case against Surapot goes back to 2010 (Somsak #25)
http://www.newmandala.org/2011/12/13/another-academic-victim-of-112/
In fact LM cases in the legal process now are not of this government’s tenure. Remember, while allocating blame, everyone is controlled by amaat forces that are situated outside the control of this elected government. Reforming the constitution, which is feasible under this government, must be a priority to change the repressive falange parastatal apparatus (and of course its codes such as 112).
Ar Kong dead
Jack Radcliffe: Isn’t the summary CT provided enough? I imagine a few of the comments are personally directed at Ah Kong and I wouldn’t want to read any of them in this thread. Let us reserve some sanctity for Ah Kong
Don’t stand out in Thailand
Jonathan, the situation is a complex one – but it is unfolding/unravelling rapidly.
As far as western ‘intervention’ goes, I don’t think there is any credible organisation/nation that could perform such a task, nor do I think it would be the right thing to do.
This situation is going to be played out domestically. The outcome at the moment is impossible to predict.
Review of Political Authority and Provincial Identity in Thailand
Any idea where this can be bought in Bangkok?
Ar Kong dead
@#39
Have you seen any English translations of the comments knocking around?