A contact in the Burma Army recently complained about “Tayoke Naypyidaw”. “Tayoke” is the Burmese word for Chinese. I thought he was referring to Naypyidaw being financed and controlled by Communist China.
But he was referring to Mandalay which is now the capital of the Chinese colony in Burma, similar to the British & French Concessions in occupied pre-war China.
The Burma Army is now badly split because Communist China is demanding the stationing of Chinese troops inside Burma to protect the oil pipeline from Arakan State to China.
Ali Baba Than Shwe and the forty thieves will self-destruct due to greed and corruption. NLD’s policy of dialogue has become part of the problem, rather than part of the solution.
There is no doubt that te Chinese are economically annexing Laos to their own purposes and they are being readily aided in this by certain sectors of Laos society who benefit in large measure personally. There are areas in Northern Laos now that for all intents and purposes are Chinese. Contractors, labourers and suppliers on all Chinese development projects are Chinese, very little direct benefit accumulates to ordinary Lao people as this infrastructure goes in. With that work force and the access this infrastructure provides, Chinese merchants and entrepreneurs follow. The Lo are no match for their sharp practices and avaricious bent, they are being gobbled up wholesale. There is growing resentment among Lao people about this and the kind of grumbling that can be heard now has not been common in the past in this tightly controlled authoritarian state. There is a rumour about that the reason that the Chinese proposal for developing a railway from north to south has stalled because of the Chinese insistence that 10km either side be ceded to China as Chinese territory. Who knows the truth but the fact that the rumour has currency indicates clearly that the ordinary Lao have come to understand the truth Chinese intentions for their country. The economic benefits for the few that will accrue from Chinese involvement in Laos will be reaped by that few at a tragic cost to environment culture and quality of life. Unfortunately while ever certain powerful interests that hold sway collude with this process the demise of this beautiful country is absolutely certain.
Many of the students who survived the trauma of 1988 and now live in freedom in developed democratic countries continue to battle with guilt because they feel helpless with the fate of their mates who are still fighting for freedom. It is important to look into the mental state of Htoo Htoo Han. Is he in a delusional state? Is he obsessed with delusions of guilt and therefore believe that he deserves punishment? Are his delusional thoughts making him claim he has committed the atrocities he may have seen and heard? His claims simply don’t add up.
Regarding “strawberry”… ask STUDENTS and they will tell you it means BS, plain and simple. (or in this case… “plane and simple” 555)
Re comment on Foo Foo (or officially Air Force Major)… those were my thoughts too… Where WAS that little rascal, when all the shenanigans were going on?!?
I think I can understand Vichai’s disdain for moral and epistemological debates.
He has shown a firm conviction to oppose Thaksin’s corruption and the erroneous beliefs shown by many of us that there are other corruptors worth mentioning. If only we all have the same fervor as him the world would no longer be masterminded by Thaksin and become a better place for our children.
So, really, there is no need for Nuomi’s ‘wordy’ debate since there is only one simple tenet that matters and that is: “Thaksin is corrupt”. Anything that deviates from or fails to mention that is a pointless gush and distraction.
But Vichai, really, you’re quite wordy yourself as New Mandala already announced a new comment policy that the revelation “Thaksin is corrupt” you’ve been enlightening us only needs to be represented with “1”. See the link below.
I was skeptical about Pawpcorn’s explanation (#74) so I asked a good Thai friend (a university ajarn) who said that “strawberry” means fake, or something not to be taken seriously. She gave examples of teenage girls who dress up in makeup & hair to look like Korean pop stars ==> not really Korean, so ‘strawberry’… fake.
She said that further you can use “strawberry cheesecake” to denote young girls who doll up for photos to look particularly doll-like. When I explained the idea of “cheesecake” photos in English, she said that “strawberry cheesecake” is definitely ‘doll-like’ rather than ‘sex kitten’.
What Htoo Htoo Han has done now is like a ‘suicide bomber’ who blew himself up but it’s not him that he has to worry about what his revelations might lead to but it’s more to do with those who are with the shady past who have to be worried too. It’s been a long time that we knew that so-called activists with their shady past exists and lives among us. This will be the beginning of the end of those ‘activists’.
How can any reasonable person could think of ‘implicating himself with war crimes and crime against humanity’ knowing that his Australian citizenship could be revoked and himself deported? There is an ‘exclusion clause’ in the Convention that person or persons with criminal convictions be denied of protection by the country in which he sought asylum. He may have his reasons. Only the one who has the stomach-ache knows the pain, as the saying goes.
Obviously some may questioned his motives for going public about his crimes but shouldn’t it be fair for us to question the scepticism of those activists too?
Actually (more literally) the English word “strawberry” is VERY similar sounding to the Thai word for “bulls**t”… so much so, that Thais will just say “strawberry” any time they want to say “bulls**t”.
For all intents and purposes, it’s become and “adopted word” in Thai (with a totally different meaning, in this case!)
It’s particularly hilarious that this transparent expression is being used by the German officials (in the know!)
That was a very lengthy wordy commentary Nuomi condoning or excusing the Thaksin/Chalerm corruption. Thaksin and Chalerm would certainly be very pleased and encouraged to corrupt some more.
One basic question here is: what was the plane doing in Germany? If it’s a plane for royal service, then what business did the royal person who used the plane have in Germany? Presumably, it must be some business of importance to Thailand? On the other hand, if the plane was simply used for some private purpose, would that be considered proper? And who, indeed, footed the bills for fuel, service, meals, etc.? If the Thai government paid for all these, a case can be made that the plane is a Thai government issue. My other question is similar to the one already asked by some others here. As a Thai citizen, I would question very hard the desirability for a high-ranking member of the royal family to have a big airplane for personal use. He or she should feel deeply ashamed of such action and must try to atone for it in some very productive way if he expects to be welcome in Thailand from now on.
My sense is that this confession and the other allegations of war crimes from the KIA are part of an attempt to discredit Vice President Tin Aung Myint Oo and to secure an indictment against him. He’s emerged as the key hardliner in the government and key moderates want to remove him.
“Kasit made it very clear that those Thai who love the crown prince are now strongly against Germans. ”
Then Germans need not be too concerned.
———-
lol I chuckled reading that.
I must say, however, that while my feeling towards him is not ‘love’, but I support him as the next King. I look forward to see Princess Srirasmi as our next Queen. I would love to see those brainwashed royalists prostrate themselves at her feet.
In Thai, the word ‘strawberry’ is a verb that means ‘to lie’:
“р╕Цр╣Йр╕▓р╕бр╕╡р╕Др╕Щр╕бр╕▓р╕Юр╕╣р╕Фр╕Бр╕▒р╕Ър╣Ар╕гр╕▓р╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╣Ар╕Шр╕н р╕нр╕вр╣Ир╕▓р╕кр╕Хр╕гр╕нр╣Ар╕Ър╕нр╕гр╣Мр╕гр╕╡р╣Ир╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕бр╕▒р╣Йр╕в”. р╕лр╕ер╕▓р╕вр╕Др╕Щр╕Др╕Зр╣Ар╕Вр╣Йр╕▓р╣Гр╕Ир╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Щр╕▒р╕вр╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕Др╕│р╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╕кр╕Хр╕гр╕нр╣Ар╕Ър╕нр╕гр╣Мр╕гр╕╡р╣И” р╕Др╕╖р╕н р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Юр╕╣р╕Фр╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Ир╕гр╕┤р╕З р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╣Вр╕Бр╕лр╕Бр╕Щр╕▒р╣Ир╕Щр╣Ар╕нр╕З”
One aspect, which is of course irrelevant for Kasit and state elites, is that the debts of the Thaistate owned to Werner Bau or large parts of it, are to be used for the employees who had lost their jobs.
Another issue is, whether it is still save for German citizen to travel to Thailand for holidays or business. Kasit made it very clear that those Thai who love the crown prince are now strongly against Germans. Might it happen that all Germans in Thailand will face l.m.?
Haha… nice comment. But seriously. I don’t think so. Most of Thailand is not even aware of this according to what i asked my friends around here.
instead arrested the members of a small opposition party on charges of “making war against the king” – not by force of arms, but by wearing and distributing yellow Bersih T-shirts! Wearing the colour yellow was prohibited nation-wide as subversive; anyone wearing yellow could be arrested, by policemen identified by their yellow vests!
sounds like Thailand some times… but the other way around…. somehow… at least the name Malaysia doesn’t mean “Land of the free”…
“Chamlong and Prem were indeed clean and honest when they held the reins of Thai premiership and/or Bangkok governorship.”
Major General Chamlong and Field Marshal Prem, how should such diversed characters be assessed. They were men who men with guns feared, one guy had the guts or lack of marbles and punched Prem in public, remember him? I wonder what happened to him? General Artit was also in dispute with Prem was he not? He almost got into trouble with illegal financial issues. Not to mention other more recent allagations by Redshirts. And Chamlong, rumors say he was/is a well experienced field combat specialists. Could it be that, they had other ways of getting what they want done that it evades the public eyes. I guess only the people who did their dirty work, if any existed, would know.
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Plane audacity in Thai dispute
All people here talking about the “strawberry” thing: the journalist wrote what really happened: The prince WAS picking strawberries.
http://www.merkur-online.de/nachrichten/bayern/prinz-erdbeerfeld-1326505.html?cmp=defrss
Oh, and “Foo Foo” was also there.
Htoo Htoo Han the confessor
A contact in the Burma Army recently complained about “Tayoke Naypyidaw”. “Tayoke” is the Burmese word for Chinese. I thought he was referring to Naypyidaw being financed and controlled by Communist China.
But he was referring to Mandalay which is now the capital of the Chinese colony in Burma, similar to the British & French Concessions in occupied pre-war China.
The Burma Army is now badly split because Communist China is demanding the stationing of Chinese troops inside Burma to protect the oil pipeline from Arakan State to China.
Ali Baba Than Shwe and the forty thieves will self-destruct due to greed and corruption. NLD’s policy of dialogue has become part of the problem, rather than part of the solution.
Unlocking Laos
There is no doubt that te Chinese are economically annexing Laos to their own purposes and they are being readily aided in this by certain sectors of Laos society who benefit in large measure personally. There are areas in Northern Laos now that for all intents and purposes are Chinese. Contractors, labourers and suppliers on all Chinese development projects are Chinese, very little direct benefit accumulates to ordinary Lao people as this infrastructure goes in. With that work force and the access this infrastructure provides, Chinese merchants and entrepreneurs follow. The Lo are no match for their sharp practices and avaricious bent, they are being gobbled up wholesale. There is growing resentment among Lao people about this and the kind of grumbling that can be heard now has not been common in the past in this tightly controlled authoritarian state. There is a rumour about that the reason that the Chinese proposal for developing a railway from north to south has stalled because of the Chinese insistence that 10km either side be ceded to China as Chinese territory. Who knows the truth but the fact that the rumour has currency indicates clearly that the ordinary Lao have come to understand the truth Chinese intentions for their country. The economic benefits for the few that will accrue from Chinese involvement in Laos will be reaped by that few at a tragic cost to environment culture and quality of life. Unfortunately while ever certain powerful interests that hold sway collude with this process the demise of this beautiful country is absolutely certain.
Htoo Htoo Han the confessor
Many of the students who survived the trauma of 1988 and now live in freedom in developed democratic countries continue to battle with guilt because they feel helpless with the fate of their mates who are still fighting for freedom. It is important to look into the mental state of Htoo Htoo Han. Is he in a delusional state? Is he obsessed with delusions of guilt and therefore believe that he deserves punishment? Are his delusional thoughts making him claim he has committed the atrocities he may have seen and heard? His claims simply don’t add up.
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Regarding “strawberry”… ask STUDENTS and they will tell you it means BS, plain and simple. (or in this case… “plane and simple” 555)
Re comment on Foo Foo (or officially Air Force Major)… those were my thoughts too… Where WAS that little rascal, when all the shenanigans were going on?!?
Reporting on lese majeste from Bangkok
ask STUDENTS and they will tell you it means BS, plain and simple.
Thailand’s corruption record
I think I can understand Vichai’s disdain for moral and epistemological debates.
He has shown a firm conviction to oppose Thaksin’s corruption and the erroneous beliefs shown by many of us that there are other corruptors worth mentioning. If only we all have the same fervor as him the world would no longer be masterminded by Thaksin and become a better place for our children.
So, really, there is no need for Nuomi’s ‘wordy’ debate since there is only one simple tenet that matters and that is: “Thaksin is corrupt”. Anything that deviates from or fails to mention that is a pointless gush and distraction.
But Vichai, really, you’re quite wordy yourself as New Mandala already announced a new comment policy that the revelation “Thaksin is corrupt” you’ve been enlightening us only needs to be represented with “1”. See the link below.
http://www.newmandala.org/2011/06/11/new-mandalas-new-comment-policy/#comments
So, 1. Thank you.
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Where was foo foo and what was this noble creatures role in all this hoo ha?
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
I was skeptical about Pawpcorn’s explanation (#74) so I asked a good Thai friend (a university ajarn) who said that “strawberry” means fake, or something not to be taken seriously. She gave examples of teenage girls who dress up in makeup & hair to look like Korean pop stars ==> not really Korean, so ‘strawberry’… fake.
She said that further you can use “strawberry cheesecake” to denote young girls who doll up for photos to look particularly doll-like. When I explained the idea of “cheesecake” photos in English, she said that “strawberry cheesecake” is definitely ‘doll-like’ rather than ‘sex kitten’.
I had never heard either expression used before.
Interesting.
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Strawberry fields forever
Htoo Htoo Han the confessor
What Htoo Htoo Han has done now is like a ‘suicide bomber’ who blew himself up but it’s not him that he has to worry about what his revelations might lead to but it’s more to do with those who are with the shady past who have to be worried too. It’s been a long time that we knew that so-called activists with their shady past exists and lives among us. This will be the beginning of the end of those ‘activists’.
How can any reasonable person could think of ‘implicating himself with war crimes and crime against humanity’ knowing that his Australian citizenship could be revoked and himself deported? There is an ‘exclusion clause’ in the Convention that person or persons with criminal convictions be denied of protection by the country in which he sought asylum. He may have his reasons. Only the one who has the stomach-ache knows the pain, as the saying goes.
Obviously some may questioned his motives for going public about his crimes but shouldn’t it be fair for us to question the scepticism of those activists too?
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Actually (more literally) the English word “strawberry” is VERY similar sounding to the Thai word for “bulls**t”… so much so, that Thais will just say “strawberry” any time they want to say “bulls**t”.
For all intents and purposes, it’s become and “adopted word” in Thai (with a totally different meaning, in this case!)
It’s particularly hilarious that this transparent expression is being used by the German officials (in the know!)
Thailand’s corruption record
That was a very lengthy wordy commentary Nuomi condoning or excusing the Thaksin/Chalerm corruption. Thaksin and Chalerm would certainly be very pleased and encouraged to corrupt some more.
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
One basic question here is: what was the plane doing in Germany? If it’s a plane for royal service, then what business did the royal person who used the plane have in Germany? Presumably, it must be some business of importance to Thailand? On the other hand, if the plane was simply used for some private purpose, would that be considered proper? And who, indeed, footed the bills for fuel, service, meals, etc.? If the Thai government paid for all these, a case can be made that the plane is a Thai government issue. My other question is similar to the one already asked by some others here. As a Thai citizen, I would question very hard the desirability for a high-ranking member of the royal family to have a big airplane for personal use. He or she should feel deeply ashamed of such action and must try to atone for it in some very productive way if he expects to be welcome in Thailand from now on.
Htoo Htoo Han the confessor
My sense is that this confession and the other allegations of war crimes from the KIA are part of an attempt to discredit Vice President Tin Aung Myint Oo and to secure an indictment against him. He’s emerged as the key hardliner in the government and key moderates want to remove him.
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
BKK Lawyer replied to HRK @65:
“Kasit made it very clear that those Thai who love the crown prince are now strongly against Germans. ”
Then Germans need not be too concerned.
———-
lol I chuckled reading that.
I must say, however, that while my feeling towards him is not ‘love’, but I support him as the next King. I look forward to see Princess Srirasmi as our next Queen. I would love to see those brainwashed royalists prostrate themselves at her feet.
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
In Thai, the word ‘strawberry’ is a verb that means ‘to lie’:
“р╕Цр╣Йр╕▓р╕бр╕╡р╕Др╕Щр╕бр╕▓р╕Юр╕╣р╕Фр╕Бр╕▒р╕Ър╣Ар╕гр╕▓р╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╣Ар╕Шр╕н р╕нр╕вр╣Ир╕▓р╕кр╕Хр╕гр╕нр╣Ар╕Ър╕нр╕гр╣Мр╕гр╕╡р╣Ир╣Др╕Фр╣Йр╕бр╕▒р╣Йр╕в”. р╕лр╕ер╕▓р╕вр╕Др╕Щр╕Др╕Зр╣Ар╕Вр╣Йр╕▓р╣Гр╕Ир╕Др╕зр╕▓р╕бр╕лр╕бр╕▓р╕вр╣Вр╕Фр╕вр╕Щр╕▒р╕вр╕Вр╕нр╕Зр╕Др╕│р╕зр╣Ир╕▓ “р╕кр╕Хр╕гр╕нр╣Ар╕Ър╕нр╕гр╣Мр╕гр╕╡р╣И” р╕Др╕╖р╕н р╕Бр╕▓р╕гр╕Юр╕╣р╕Фр╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Ир╕гр╕┤р╕З р╕лр╕гр╕╖р╕нр╣Вр╕Бр╕лр╕Бр╕Щр╕▒р╣Ир╕Щр╣Ар╕нр╕З”
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
One aspect, which is of course irrelevant for Kasit and state elites, is that the debts of the Thaistate owned to Werner Bau or large parts of it, are to be used for the employees who had lost their jobs.
Another issue is, whether it is still save for German citizen to travel to Thailand for holidays or business. Kasit made it very clear that those Thai who love the crown prince are now strongly against Germans. Might it happen that all Germans in Thailand will face l.m.?
Haha… nice comment. But seriously. I don’t think so. Most of Thailand is not even aware of this according to what i asked my friends around here.
Malaysia: a Clean sweep?
instead arrested the members of a small opposition party on charges of “making war against the king” – not by force of arms, but by wearing and distributing yellow Bersih T-shirts! Wearing the colour yellow was prohibited nation-wide as subversive; anyone wearing yellow could be arrested, by policemen identified by their yellow vests!
sounds like Thailand some times… but the other way around…. somehow… at least the name Malaysia doesn’t mean “Land of the free”…
Thailand’s corruption record
“Chamlong and Prem were indeed clean and honest when they held the reins of Thai premiership and/or Bangkok governorship.”
Major General Chamlong and Field Marshal Prem, how should such diversed characters be assessed. They were men who men with guns feared, one guy had the guts or lack of marbles and punched Prem in public, remember him? I wonder what happened to him? General Artit was also in dispute with Prem was he not? He almost got into trouble with illegal financial issues. Not to mention other more recent allagations by Redshirts. And Chamlong, rumors say he was/is a well experienced field combat specialists. Could it be that, they had other ways of getting what they want done that it evades the public eyes. I guess only the people who did their dirty work, if any existed, would know.