Nick Nostitz: There is nothing cryptic about ‘dial a quote’. When journalists use this expression they refer to a person, who has knowledge on a certain subject, who will provide the right quote to fit their agenda. In that respect Ji can be found all over The Times and Guardian in the UK and also elsewhere – but he is just a ‘talking head’.
Your comments about Chuan are way off as is your contempt for people who live in post suburban villages or Sukhumvit pent-houses, which does not include me.
Anyway it looks like a change of government lets see how things develop.
Long live the proletariat! The real one.
@SteveCM
I read the document you talk about, even if in my opinion it is of no value for the reasons I exposed !
When the French left Cambodia (and Laos), it was an “error” not to convene a multi-party conference about borders …
I actually don’t think it was an error, but the mark of the same racism that prevailed in the mind of the invaders !
French colonization was supposed to be “for protection and development”, look at the Cambodian/Laotian people’s fate and the development of those countries relative to Thailand 5555
It should NOT matter where the border lies, especially because this peculiar places are (were) largely unhinabited, but for the “time-bomb” left there by the nasty colonial power …
For example, did you know that the whole Mekhong (and not its deepest line) was the border and “belonged” to the French ?
I know of an abuse when I see it, and the “French Treaties” were just that !
Robald #7 Maybe your right, people have just switched off from the main stream media channels and are just attracted to media which supports their view point. States are definately losing their control over propaganda. The voters have certainly given the disconnect with reality a good kick.
Les Abbey 6
” to suffer under that Chinese curse of ‘living in interesting times’.
Les,
That’s the case general election or no, ne’st pas? I don’t see how the foregone conclusion of the result changes anything.
Attempting to tar the whole red shirt movement as homophobic on the strength of the actions of a small (if loud) minority group is plainly ridiculous. Not all Redshirts are rednecks: it is a large and diverse movement with all sorts of fringe groups. Likewise, it is equally unfair to suggest that just because it is “perfectly possible to be a red shirt and anti Taksin”[#143] that the movement as a whole cares more about democratic ideals than the fortunes of it’s leaders.
Maybe the gist of what happened last year is something else. People are not convinced by the official spin and are suspicious about it.
Not only that but maybe people are more concerned about 92 dead bodies rather than some bricks and mortar.
Until the last week nor Abhisit nor Suthep showed a shred of remorse. Their excuse was if they did it would be like admitting it was their doing.
But how can we believe things like Suthep saying the military did not attack but, “people ran into the bullets”?
Or that the so-called men in black shot the red shirts and military and then, although estimated to be 400 slipped into the shadows and disappeared forever while surrounded by 30,000 well-armed soldiers.
Like Kennedy said “you can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all the time. But you cannot fool all the people all of the time”.
There was a time when the flow of information was 100% controlled by the state and people could be led to believe any sort of nonsense. But times have changed. People can get information from elsewhere now and have started to see things from various points of view.
It isn’t over yet. As the count goes on, so the lead PT had (according to some exit polls) is steadily reducing. Last estimate I saw was PT 254. In a few hours that may reduce further. If under 250 and then the fun and games really begin. Red cards, etc.
Yes, I think so. PT will win due to the majority of elected votes.
Following the two graphs, they seem positive to increase participation in Thai politics in the 2000s.
It’s a hard time for DP in politics, and it’s a hard decision for Thais to select the best choice. So, let’s see how many seats that PT will get.
It seems some people were asleep during the whole election campaign. The democrats hammered this very topic, the burning of central world, in their humble efforts to be taken seriously. It’s impossible that the electorate just somehow forgot about it, it just didn’t resonnate. Or in another alternate head space maybe the electorate vote to burn it down.
It is an overwhelming collective voice from the Thai people. Many say the poor and uneducated are unable to understand how to vote, as if only the wealthy and educated do.
However, albeit there is truth to the idea the opposition does not have a clear idea about what it wants in the future, the real importance of the message is what hey do not want: NO MORE OF THE SAME.
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“(and even more interesting, what contingency plans they have made?)”
…which brings us neatly back to sean Crispins Brunei Story doesn’t it?
Thai Election: Updates
In Thai PBS, Apirak is confident for DP’s estimates and criticizes exit polls are inaccurate.
Andrew Marshall’s Thai Story
Nick Nostitz: There is nothing cryptic about ‘dial a quote’. When journalists use this expression they refer to a person, who has knowledge on a certain subject, who will provide the right quote to fit their agenda. In that respect Ji can be found all over The Times and Guardian in the UK and also elsewhere – but he is just a ‘talking head’.
Your comments about Chuan are way off as is your contempt for people who live in post suburban villages or Sukhumvit pent-houses, which does not include me.
Anyway it looks like a change of government lets see how things develop.
Long live the proletariat! The real one.
Can the Democrats make it six in a row?
@SteveCM
I read the document you talk about, even if in my opinion it is of no value for the reasons I exposed !
When the French left Cambodia (and Laos), it was an “error” not to convene a multi-party conference about borders …
I actually don’t think it was an error, but the mark of the same racism that prevailed in the mind of the invaders !
French colonization was supposed to be “for protection and development”, look at the Cambodian/Laotian people’s fate and the development of those countries relative to Thailand 5555
It should NOT matter where the border lies, especially because this peculiar places are (were) largely unhinabited, but for the “time-bomb” left there by the nasty colonial power …
For example, did you know that the whole Mekhong (and not its deepest line) was the border and “belonged” to the French ?
I know of an abuse when I see it, and the “French Treaties” were just that !
Thai Election: Updates
Up-to-date situation:
The survey by Suan Dusit Poll found that the Pheu Thai would capture 313 MPs while the Democrat would win 152 MPs.
Suan Dusit found that Pheu Thai is to win 66 party-list seats and 247 constituency seats, grabbing 313 of 500 House seats.
Democrats are to secure 45 party-list seats and 107 constituency seats.
Find out more here:
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/Pheu-Thai-leads-in-3-exit-polls-30159315.html
Thai Election: Updates
Robald #7 Maybe your right, people have just switched off from the main stream media channels and are just attracted to media which supports their view point. States are definately losing their control over propaganda. The voters have certainly given the disconnect with reality a good kick.
Thai election: Where to begin?
Les Abbey 6
” to suffer under that Chinese curse of ‘living in interesting times’.
Les,
That’s the case general election or no, ne’st pas? I don’t see how the foregone conclusion of the result changes anything.
Andrew Marshall’s Thai Story
Attempting to tar the whole red shirt movement as homophobic on the strength of the actions of a small (if loud) minority group is plainly ridiculous. Not all Redshirts are rednecks: it is a large and diverse movement with all sorts of fringe groups. Likewise, it is equally unfair to suggest that just because it is “perfectly possible to be a red shirt and anti Taksin”[#143] that the movement as a whole cares more about democratic ideals than the fortunes of it’s leaders.
Thai Election: Updates
Apirak Kosayodhin spoke through Thai TV3 that DP estimates it will win about 200 seats nationwide while PTP will get not more than 250.
Thai Election: Updates
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Maybe the gist of what happened last year is something else. People are not convinced by the official spin and are suspicious about it.
Not only that but maybe people are more concerned about 92 dead bodies rather than some bricks and mortar.
Until the last week nor Abhisit nor Suthep showed a shred of remorse. Their excuse was if they did it would be like admitting it was their doing.
But how can we believe things like Suthep saying the military did not attack but, “people ran into the bullets”?
Or that the so-called men in black shot the red shirts and military and then, although estimated to be 400 slipped into the shadows and disappeared forever while surrounded by 30,000 well-armed soldiers.
Like Kennedy said “you can fool all of the people some of the time, and you can fool some of the people all the time. But you cannot fool all the people all of the time”.
There was a time when the flow of information was 100% controlled by the state and people could be led to believe any sort of nonsense. But times have changed. People can get information from elsewhere now and have started to see things from various points of view.
Thai Election: Updates
It isn’t over yet. As the count goes on, so the lead PT had (according to some exit polls) is steadily reducing. Last estimate I saw was PT 254. In a few hours that may reduce further. If under 250 and then the fun and games really begin. Red cards, etc.
Thai Election 2011: Early predictions
Not yet! Early days!
Thai Election 2011: Early predictions
Well done on your predictions, guys – at least based on the exit poll averages (which largely somewhat exceed your PT majority estimates).
Must admit, I wouldn’t have gone for a figure even as high as Andrew’s. Drinks on Nich, I guess?
Thai Election 2011: Early predictions
Yes, I think so. PT will win due to the majority of elected votes.
Following the two graphs, they seem positive to increase participation in Thai politics in the 2000s.
It’s a hard time for DP in politics, and it’s a hard decision for Thais to select the best choice. So, let’s see how many seats that PT will get.
Thai Election: Updates
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It seems some people were asleep during the whole election campaign. The democrats hammered this very topic, the burning of central world, in their humble efforts to be taken seriously. It’s impossible that the electorate just somehow forgot about it, it just didn’t resonnate. Or in another alternate head space maybe the electorate vote to burn it down.
Thai Election: Updates
It is an overwhelming collective voice from the Thai people. Many say the poor and uneducated are unable to understand how to vote, as if only the wealthy and educated do.
However, albeit there is truth to the idea the opposition does not have a clear idea about what it wants in the future, the real importance of the message is what hey do not want: NO MORE OF THE SAME.
Thai Election: Updates
Thaksin just had an interview with ThaiPBS channel saying he “forgives everyone, and welcomes all parties, and Yingluck will be the PM for sure.”
Thai Election: Updates
Bangkok’s constituency 2: DP6983, PT 233, PJT, 882 (@18.00hrs, ongoing counting )
Thai election: Where to begin?
Do the royals vote?
Thai election: Where to begin?
The Election Commission is expecting at least 5 red cards to be issued in Sukhothai, Chaiyaphum, Maha Sarakham, Si Sa Ket and Buri Ram provinces.