Les #51, I was referring to political campaigning and a tactical smear campaign against in this case a Phue Thai candidate/Korkaew did not slam his opponent by personal insults/so we can see who is the gentleman in this campaign & the real nature of the DP politik…
3) Thepthai Senpong, personal spokesman for Democrat’s leader used low language and insulted Korkaew, accusing him of being a “terrorist”.
Jim Taylor always manages to come up with something that makes me smile. Low language eh Jim? Now after having a good month of listening to the red shirt leaders and even reading online red shirt supporters, (and I know anti-red shirt writers), for anyone to throw in the use of low language has to be a bit of the pot calling the kettle black don’t you think Jim? Prem whose sexuality was hardly referred to before the red shirts arrived, certainly must have had quite a bit of low language aimed his way from their direction.
My post in this thread was at 3 AM on a day before holiday and I was totally pissed. Interesting that a lot of people here seem to understand it better.
Those photos which you sent me of your recent trip back to Southeast Asia (Cambodia/Vietnam) sure were nice! Please send me the photo spread that you did on the Karen National Liberation Army a couple years ago and count me in on going with you when you head back to Southeast Asia next year.
I really enjoyed reading that report which you sent me from Dak To, Vietnam!
My brother Bill sends his best wishes to you!
Thank you, Ajarn Somsak, for clarifying these important points. All of us have read something somewhere, can’t find it now and are tricked by the deviltry of memory.
I have just tried to access your blog page as mentioned and it tells me I must sign in. Will you be so kind as to accomplish that for me:
facthai
4freedom
Thanks, Ajarn.
Lastly, does any reader know where a copy of Chuchua’s funeral volume might be housed?
Double stardard claim has been used by the anti-govt red shirts against those in power. It is all about scoring political point, regardless of absurdity. The forest burning is in the north. Remember the haze problem before the raining season. Please equate UDD’s resistance of MOD’s plan to station a infantry division in the north/heartland of the red shirts.
Try insulting the parents of any Thai!
Please, please: let us advance beyond these ad hominem attacks. People like Mr. Amsterdam and Mr. Soros should not be singled out unfairly because they are foreigners who undermine the nation for profit. If you are against such attacks, kindly vote with the green thumb below.
I remember when this first cropped up in Thailand’s newspapers a few years back. They all called it Preah Vihar. It took some time for them to start calling it Phra Viharn which is now the Post’s and the Nation’s default setting.
What it demonstrates is that where there is serious censorship with big penalties everyone gets locked into a cycle of fear and it’s not just censorship – a response to legal restrictions -that comes into play but censoring where we worry about all the imagined possibilities, all the possible interpretations as to what we say or think or mean.
Solzenhitzyn, I think, recounts an instance at a Party Congress where Stalin had made a speech. The applause went on for hours and hours until delegates were fainting. Not through hysteria, like teens at a pop concert, but because nobody wanted to be the first to sit down and stop clapping. Everyone was watching and waiting for someone to stop.
David Dunne #46 re:
“It’s also my view that in the eyes of Thailand’s real masters Abhisit’s days are numbered.”
I think you’re exactly correct.
Abhisit is now so badly tarnished by Ratchaprasong, etc., and now this vote – it’s only a matter of time before he is forced out most likely by a military coup, since a parliamentary coup appears unlikely (Newin as PM – I can n’t see it!).
The coup would have to be broadly acceptable, including to the international community. There’s no-one more acceptable to all sides than Anand – though a care-taker government may mean a further delay for any national elections, probably at least until the term of the current parliament ends.
Ralph, easier than using a proxy, just use the secure Google https:// and type in political prisoners thailand or anything else you want to bypass censors, and then click on: Cached. This also works if you go to the US based Google but note that Thai Google does not have Cached.
As for LM, I get very upset waiting an hour in traffic for some VIP caravan far too many times each month. At least for me it has never been a life or death wait. If my child died while waiting for such a groupm while having an ashma attack for example, would it push me over the edge?
Shawn Crispin? That well known “severe critic” of the current regime is involved in this? So the journalist whose work is often informed by the entre he seems to possess to the cabals and conspiracies of the Thai establishment is representing who this time? How will he spin this the government way I wonder? Because allocating any responsibility for shooting journalists to his patrons would be a radical departure from his well known views… And even a muted call for real accountability would surely be an insult to his well placed sources.
Poor woman. I can imagine the pleasant and soothing words that she must have heard from the representatives of official Thailand. I have watched this sort of thing before. Abhisit,, government spokesmen, the DSI, etc talk smoothly, make their promises and then, after a while, things are quietly allowed to slip. Shortly after Abhisit was appointed Thailand’s Prime Minister there was a big media splash announcement. Four cases would be prioritized. Anyone have any idea what the progress has been on these cases? I can still see the front page of Bangkok Post in my mind’s eye now and the sudden appearance of new confidence on the faces of the victims involved in one case who I happened to be acquainted with. There was action… of a sort… Let’s just say that the expectations of the victims were somewhat out of touch with the realities of the Thai justice system… http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2010/03/10/hua-hin-property-news-briton-who-fought-back-beaten-close-to-death/
My sympathies to the families of the journalists who were killed or injured at this demonstration and indeed for those who have been killed and injured at previous Thai political demonstrations that have been met with violent state repression. It must be very hard to be a grieving relative of one of these reporter victims and not be impressed by the sympathy, kindness and “sincere” responses that she will be given by the Thai authorities… And if you have not much experience of Thailand it would be easy to assume many things about the assurances that the authorities will offer…
I know Indonesia is not a country of concern to New Mandala but I would like to use an Indonesian example to illustrate how the term neo-liberalism is randomly used there. I find this article interesting with my experiences in Indonesia in mind.
Social and political activists in Indonesia have, in let’s say the past five years, increasingly started to use the term neo-liberalism to pinpoint the enemy of the people, the cause of injustice and exploitation, the big hurdle to equal development. The term is used when referring to the World Bank or President SBY, who they accuse of being pro-US and selling out the country’s abundance of natural resources.
But just as Maylee Thava explains it is a “catchcall phrase that appears to say everything but nothing”. Ask an activist in Indonesia what exactly are the dynamics behind this neo-liberalism and what can be done to counter it and they look at you dumbfounded. Ask them who are our allies in the fight against neo-liberalism and how does it affect people’s daily lives, different than before it invaded the country (but natural resources were also being exploited by a government elite and Western countries) and they will probably not have a distinct answer, other than the one that was given when people still spoke about capitalism or globalization.
Liberalism is a confusing term. In the US it stands for progressive, left leaning, those who don’t share the conservative (Christian) moralist agenda. In Europe, and also when we use it in combination with the prefix “neo”, liberal is associated with right winged economic policies, low taxes, little state interference, etc.
Maybe this seeming confusion, or mix-up of terms and ideologies has made the term neo-liberalism so appealing to the conservative and hardliner Muslim groups in Indonesia. It encapsulates everything they detest; a (perceived) absence of morals (homosexuality, abortion, pornography) as well as the (economic) domination of the US and their Western allies.
So in the end both left and right are using the term interchangeably, talking about the same enemies but for very different reasons.
another interesting point for readers to consider, this time from Khaosod as to certain underhand tactics used by the DP to secure /coerce voters: It reads: “Wicharn Meenchainun, chair person for Bkk area of Pheua Thai Party…thought that the emergency decree had affects on the election votes. On Wednesday, 28 July he will ask Prompong (PTP Spokesperson) to submit a letter to the Electoral Committee to investigate 3 points. 1) sending police dressed in commando gear to search local houses the night before the election day. 2) radio station 103 MHZ had broadcasted over its usual alloted time (6.30 p.m.>) to criticize Pheua Thai Party. 3) Thepthai Senpong, personal spokesman for Democrat’s leader used low language and insulted Korkaew, accusing him of being a “terrorist”.
Michael #104
Sorry, no English translation of my article yet.
Re: Ralph Kramden #99 # 102
I’ve found the “source” of the rumor that the palace “acknowledged” the innocence of the three, or to be more precise, of Pridi himself (It’s the same thing, as the supposed quilt of the three was tied to Pridi: they were just Pridi’s “accomplice”). What I recalled from memory at #101 is quite close.
It’s a letter sent to Pridi, dated 10 April 1947 by mom chaoSupphasawat Sawatdiwat, half-brother of Queen Ramphai of Rama VII. As is well-known, Supphasawat was a Free Thai from the UK during the war, and although as member of the royal family, he previously was quite antagonistic towards Pridi and the People’s Party, he came to enormously admire Pridi as a great patriot, for the latter’s role as leader of the Free Thai. The prince henceforth always defended Pridi on issue of Anan’s death. The letter, written from England, seven months after Anan’s death, is basically Suphasawat’s attempt to soothe Pridi of any worry that the present king and his mother would blame the latter for Anan’s death or would even think that Pridi had something to do with it. Now, it’s crucial to remember that Suphasawat action on this issue throughout, had always been premised on his belief that the present King himself had nothing to do with his brother’s death either.
This was how Suphasawat assured Pridi that the present king and his mother didn’t suspect Pridi:
He told Pridi that, the fact that, just prior to the King and his mother’s departure for Swisszerland in late 1946, they had granted Pridi an audience, meant – for Suphasawat – that they both must have believed in Pridi’s innocence. Especially the case of the Princess Mother, which Suphasawat claimed, could have excused herself and not showed up for Pridi’s audience, had she believed Pridi quilty as the royalists already accused him. No mother would be able to pretend to face the person she believed murdered her son: that’s basically was Suphasawat’s logic.
Pridi’s followers, notably Suphot Dantrakun, had repeatedly published Supphasawat’s letter under a rather overstated title (hence the rumor) “р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕▓р╕Чр╕кр╕бр╣Ар╕Фр╣Зр╕Ир╕Юр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Ир╣Йр╕▓р╕нр╕вр╕╣р╣Ир╕лр╕▒р╕зр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕кр╕бр╣Ар╕Фр╣Зр╕Ир╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Кр╕Щр╕Щр╕╡ р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Ар╕Кр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Ыр╕гр╕╡р╕Фр╕╡р╕п р╕кр╕бр╕Др╕Ър╕Ыр╕ер╕Зр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Кр╕Щр╕бр╣М р╕г.8” [His Majesty the King and the Princess Mother do not believe that Pridi conpired to murder King Rama VIII]. I’ve found a pdf file of one edition of such publication, that can be downloaded after registration, here http://dcms.thailis.or.th/dcms/browse.php?option=show&browse_type=title&titleid=173682&display=list_subject&q=%C3%D1%AA%A1%D2%C5%B7%D5%E8%209,%202489-
P.S. I recently came across a document of the period, which indicates that , at the time Suphasawat wrote the letter (and presumably unknown to him), Pridi was ironically not worried the way Suphasawat tried to soothe him (i.e. whether the King and his mother suspected him), because he had different explanation from Supphasawat’s of the whole case. But that’s another story . . .
see Dr Suchai Worachana’nan’s account р╕Фр╕г.р╕кр╕╕р╕Кр╕▒р╕в р╕зр╕гр╕Кр╕Щр╕░р╕Щр╕▒р╕Щр╕Чр╣М as he turned up at the polling both only to find his name already taken! (my blog #32) He complained to the police – many others probably did not even bother because the result was already scripted/So for those skeptics like Vincent- & others here – maybe look a bit deeper http://thaienews.blogspot.com/2010/07/blog-post_8150.html
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Bangkok Constituency 6: judgement day
Les #51, I was referring to political campaigning and a tactical smear campaign against in this case a Phue Thai candidate/Korkaew did not slam his opponent by personal insults/so we can see who is the gentleman in this campaign & the real nature of the DP politik…
Bangkok Constituency 6: judgement day
Jim Taylor – 48
3) Thepthai Senpong, personal spokesman for Democrat’s leader used low language and insulted Korkaew, accusing him of being a “terrorist”.
Jim Taylor always manages to come up with something that makes me smile. Low language eh Jim? Now after having a good month of listening to the red shirt leaders and even reading online red shirt supporters, (and I know anti-red shirt writers), for anyone to throw in the use of low language has to be a bit of the pot calling the kettle black don’t you think Jim? Prem whose sexuality was hardly referred to before the red shirts arrived, certainly must have had quite a bit of low language aimed his way from their direction.
Temple of gloom
Nation today has “Preah Vihear Temple”.
Bangkok Constituency 6: judgement day
My post in this thread was at 3 AM on a day before holiday and I was totally pissed. Interesting that a lot of people here seem to understand it better.
The Devil’s Discus – in Thai
Thanks again Ajarn Somsak. Fascinating stuff that you post here.
Volunteering to fight in Burma
Those photos which you sent me of your recent trip back to Southeast Asia (Cambodia/Vietnam) sure were nice! Please send me the photo spread that you did on the Karen National Liberation Army a couple years ago and count me in on going with you when you head back to Southeast Asia next year.
I really enjoyed reading that report which you sent me from Dak To, Vietnam!
My brother Bill sends his best wishes to you!
The Devil’s Discus – in Thai
Thank you, Ajarn Somsak, for clarifying these important points. All of us have read something somewhere, can’t find it now and are tricked by the deviltry of memory.
I have just tried to access your blog page as mentioned and it tells me I must sign in. Will you be so kind as to accomplish that for me:
facthai
4freedom
Thanks, Ajarn.
Lastly, does any reader know where a copy of Chuchua’s funeral volume might be housed?
The logic of lese majeste
Double stardard claim has been used by the anti-govt red shirts against those in power. It is all about scoring political point, regardless of absurdity. The forest burning is in the north. Remember the haze problem before the raining season. Please equate UDD’s resistance of MOD’s plan to station a infantry division in the north/heartland of the red shirts.
Try insulting the parents of any Thai!
“The Bangkok Massacres: A call for accountability”
Please, please: let us advance beyond these ad hominem attacks. People like Mr. Amsterdam and Mr. Soros should not be singled out unfairly because they are foreigners who undermine the nation for profit. If you are against such attacks, kindly vote with the green thumb below.
Temple of gloom
I remember when this first cropped up in Thailand’s newspapers a few years back. They all called it Preah Vihar. It took some time for them to start calling it Phra Viharn which is now the Post’s and the Nation’s default setting.
The Devil’s Discus – in Thai
Thanks for that information, Aj. Somsak and errinpurpose
The logic of lese majeste
And a second thought.
A bit presumptuous and arrogant of this humble subject, Pongsawat, to presume to know what his “father” wants and who his “father” wants in his house.
If I was the plaintiff, that’s the direction I’d push the case in. What a nerve! Who do you think you are!
The logic of lese majeste
Nicely chosen quote, Nich.
What it demonstrates is that where there is serious censorship with big penalties everyone gets locked into a cycle of fear and it’s not just censorship – a response to legal restrictions -that comes into play but censoring where we worry about all the imagined possibilities, all the possible interpretations as to what we say or think or mean.
Solzenhitzyn, I think, recounts an instance at a Party Congress where Stalin had made a speech. The applause went on for hours and hours until delegates were fainting. Not through hysteria, like teens at a pop concert, but because nobody wanted to be the first to sit down and stop clapping. Everyone was watching and waiting for someone to stop.
Bangkok Constituency 6: judgement day
David Dunne #46 re:
“It’s also my view that in the eyes of Thailand’s real masters Abhisit’s days are numbered.”
I think you’re exactly correct.
Abhisit is now so badly tarnished by Ratchaprasong, etc., and now this vote – it’s only a matter of time before he is forced out most likely by a military coup, since a parliamentary coup appears unlikely (Newin as PM – I can n’t see it!).
The coup would have to be broadly acceptable, including to the international community. There’s no-one more acceptable to all sides than Anand – though a care-taker government may mean a further delay for any national elections, probably at least until the term of the current parliament ends.
The logic of lese majeste
Ralph, easier than using a proxy, just use the secure Google https:// and type in political prisoners thailand or anything else you want to bypass censors, and then click on: Cached. This also works if you go to the US based Google but note that Thai Google does not have Cached.
As for LM, I get very upset waiting an hour in traffic for some VIP caravan far too many times each month. At least for me it has never been a life or death wait. If my child died while waiting for such a groupm while having an ashma attack for example, would it push me over the edge?
Press conference on the death of Fabio Polenghi
Shawn Crispin? That well known “severe critic” of the current regime is involved in this? So the journalist whose work is often informed by the entre he seems to possess to the cabals and conspiracies of the Thai establishment is representing who this time? How will he spin this the government way I wonder? Because allocating any responsibility for shooting journalists to his patrons would be a radical departure from his well known views… And even a muted call for real accountability would surely be an insult to his well placed sources.
Poor woman. I can imagine the pleasant and soothing words that she must have heard from the representatives of official Thailand. I have watched this sort of thing before. Abhisit,, government spokesmen, the DSI, etc talk smoothly, make their promises and then, after a while, things are quietly allowed to slip. Shortly after Abhisit was appointed Thailand’s Prime Minister there was a big media splash announcement. Four cases would be prioritized. Anyone have any idea what the progress has been on these cases? I can still see the front page of Bangkok Post in my mind’s eye now and the sudden appearance of new confidence on the faces of the victims involved in one case who I happened to be acquainted with. There was action… of a sort… Let’s just say that the expectations of the victims were somewhat out of touch with the realities of the Thai justice system…
http://www.andrew-drummond.com/2010/03/10/hua-hin-property-news-briton-who-fought-back-beaten-close-to-death/
My sympathies to the families of the journalists who were killed or injured at this demonstration and indeed for those who have been killed and injured at previous Thai political demonstrations that have been met with violent state repression. It must be very hard to be a grieving relative of one of these reporter victims and not be impressed by the sympathy, kindness and “sincere” responses that she will be given by the Thai authorities… And if you have not much experience of Thailand it would be easy to assume many things about the assurances that the authorities will offer…
The neoliberal bogeyman of Cambodia
I know Indonesia is not a country of concern to New Mandala but I would like to use an Indonesian example to illustrate how the term neo-liberalism is randomly used there. I find this article interesting with my experiences in Indonesia in mind.
Social and political activists in Indonesia have, in let’s say the past five years, increasingly started to use the term neo-liberalism to pinpoint the enemy of the people, the cause of injustice and exploitation, the big hurdle to equal development. The term is used when referring to the World Bank or President SBY, who they accuse of being pro-US and selling out the country’s abundance of natural resources.
But just as Maylee Thava explains it is a “catchcall phrase that appears to say everything but nothing”. Ask an activist in Indonesia what exactly are the dynamics behind this neo-liberalism and what can be done to counter it and they look at you dumbfounded. Ask them who are our allies in the fight against neo-liberalism and how does it affect people’s daily lives, different than before it invaded the country (but natural resources were also being exploited by a government elite and Western countries) and they will probably not have a distinct answer, other than the one that was given when people still spoke about capitalism or globalization.
Liberalism is a confusing term. In the US it stands for progressive, left leaning, those who don’t share the conservative (Christian) moralist agenda. In Europe, and also when we use it in combination with the prefix “neo”, liberal is associated with right winged economic policies, low taxes, little state interference, etc.
Maybe this seeming confusion, or mix-up of terms and ideologies has made the term neo-liberalism so appealing to the conservative and hardliner Muslim groups in Indonesia. It encapsulates everything they detest; a (perceived) absence of morals (homosexuality, abortion, pornography) as well as the (economic) domination of the US and their Western allies.
So in the end both left and right are using the term interchangeably, talking about the same enemies but for very different reasons.
Bangkok Constituency 6: judgement day
another interesting point for readers to consider, this time from Khaosod as to certain underhand tactics used by the DP to secure /coerce voters: It reads: “Wicharn Meenchainun, chair person for Bkk area of Pheua Thai Party…thought that the emergency decree had affects on the election votes. On Wednesday, 28 July he will ask Prompong (PTP Spokesperson) to submit a letter to the Electoral Committee to investigate 3 points. 1) sending police dressed in commando gear to search local houses the night before the election day. 2) radio station 103 MHZ had broadcasted over its usual alloted time (6.30 p.m.>) to criticize Pheua Thai Party. 3) Thepthai Senpong, personal spokesman for Democrat’s leader used low language and insulted Korkaew, accusing him of being a “terrorist”.
http://www.khaosod.co.th/view_news.php?newsid=TUROd01ERXdOREkzTURjMU13PT0=
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The Devil’s Discus – in Thai
Michael #104
Sorry, no English translation of my article yet.
Re: Ralph Kramden #99 # 102
I’ve found the “source” of the rumor that the palace “acknowledged” the innocence of the three, or to be more precise, of Pridi himself (It’s the same thing, as the supposed quilt of the three was tied to Pridi: they were just Pridi’s “accomplice”). What I recalled from memory at #101 is quite close.
It’s a letter sent to Pridi, dated 10 April 1947 by mom chaoSupphasawat Sawatdiwat, half-brother of Queen Ramphai of Rama VII. As is well-known, Supphasawat was a Free Thai from the UK during the war, and although as member of the royal family, he previously was quite antagonistic towards Pridi and the People’s Party, he came to enormously admire Pridi as a great patriot, for the latter’s role as leader of the Free Thai. The prince henceforth always defended Pridi on issue of Anan’s death. The letter, written from England, seven months after Anan’s death, is basically Suphasawat’s attempt to soothe Pridi of any worry that the present king and his mother would blame the latter for Anan’s death or would even think that Pridi had something to do with it. Now, it’s crucial to remember that Suphasawat action on this issue throughout, had always been premised on his belief that the present King himself had nothing to do with his brother’s death either.
This was how Suphasawat assured Pridi that the present king and his mother didn’t suspect Pridi:
He told Pridi that, the fact that, just prior to the King and his mother’s departure for Swisszerland in late 1946, they had granted Pridi an audience, meant – for Suphasawat – that they both must have believed in Pridi’s innocence. Especially the case of the Princess Mother, which Suphasawat claimed, could have excused herself and not showed up for Pridi’s audience, had she believed Pridi quilty as the royalists already accused him. No mother would be able to pretend to face the person she believed murdered her son: that’s basically was Suphasawat’s logic.
Pridi’s followers, notably Suphot Dantrakun, had repeatedly published Supphasawat’s letter under a rather overstated title (hence the rumor) “р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Ър╕▓р╕Чр╕кр╕бр╣Ар╕Фр╣Зр╕Ир╕Юр╕гр╕░р╣Ар╕Ир╣Йр╕▓р╕нр╕вр╕╣р╣Ир╕лр╕▒р╕зр╣Бр╕ер╕░р╕кр╕бр╣Ар╕Фр╣Зр╕Ир╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Кр╕Щр╕Щр╕╡ р╣Др╕бр╣Ир╕Чр╕гр╕Зр╣Ар╕Кр╕╖р╣Ир╕нр╕зр╣Ир╕▓ р╕Ыр╕гр╕╡р╕Фр╕╡р╕п р╕кр╕бр╕Др╕Ър╕Ыр╕ер╕Зр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕Кр╕Щр╕бр╣М р╕г.8” [His Majesty the King and the Princess Mother do not believe that Pridi conpired to murder King Rama VIII]. I’ve found a pdf file of one edition of such publication, that can be downloaded after registration, here
http://dcms.thailis.or.th/dcms/browse.php?option=show&browse_type=title&titleid=173682&display=list_subject&q=%C3%D1%AA%A1%D2%C5%B7%D5%E8%209,%202489-
Here is the picture of the cover of another edition (the title is slightly different “Prince Supphasawat says the King and Princess Mother do not believe Pridi conpired to muder Rama VIII”):
http://su-usedbook.tarad.com/shop/s/su-usedbook/img-lib/spd_20051207224409_b.jpg
P.S. I recently came across a document of the period, which indicates that , at the time Suphasawat wrote the letter (and presumably unknown to him), Pridi was ironically not worried the way Suphasawat tried to soothe him (i.e. whether the King and his mother suspected him), because he had different explanation from Supphasawat’s of the whole case. But that’s another story . . .
Bangkok Constituency 6: judgement day
see Dr Suchai Worachana’nan’s account р╕Фр╕г.р╕кр╕╕р╕Кр╕▒р╕в р╕зр╕гр╕Кр╕Щр╕░р╕Щр╕▒р╕Щр╕Чр╣М as he turned up at the polling both only to find his name already taken! (my blog #32) He complained to the police – many others probably did not even bother because the result was already scripted/So for those skeptics like Vincent- & others here – maybe look a bit deeper
http://thaienews.blogspot.com/2010/07/blog-post_8150.html