I went through several Oil & Gas news publication but did not find Twinza’s name on any exploration acreage in Myanmar (Burma). How kohsher is the news?
Anyway, several multimode pipelines (capable of both oil & gas) are already operational in Myanmar, so new oil or gas would be transported in the existing pipes.
Myanmar has proven 17.5 TCF of gas but not much liquid petroleum. The resource is currently being produced by the Chinese, Indians, French and the Americans. Petronas of Malaysia also has a small bit of that.
Above are the facts of Petroleum resource in Burma.
Back to sanctions – never believe in them. Sanctions only really punish the commom citizentry. The rulers would still have a good time. Development enriches the country and the flow-on, no matter how little will eventually lift everyone’s standard of living.
Just curious, where are you from? I can assure you that not a single farmer, street hawker, factory worker, admin workers, drivers I know have rifles and hand guns in their house in Thailand (granted they are a miniscule proportion of the Thai population). None of my relatives have rifles in their house. One distant cousin who worked as a police has a handgun. Several friends in the military have access to rifles, but I am not sure if they were allowed to take those home.
They don’t have it, that’s why they are using slingshots
“Can anyone shed light on the rationale for prevalent use of slingshots, bottle rockets, bamboo spears by the protesters? Given that rifles and hand guns are present in many households , are the crude arms being used as part of a political communications strategy? “
so much for history but…the judiciary was stacked in 2007 with pro-coup and antiThaksinites; it is easy to name the names, but here I’d just like to ask the question: as the judiciary has failed the people can anyone now ensure safety, equity and protection for the masses? and when will judicial/state-sanctioned killing post massacre end? While interviewing red shirt second and third level leaders in the north recently one informant received a phone call from a “watermelon” soldier saying that Abhisit and Suthep had unofficially Ok’d (and financed) local mafia to take them out at this level. This appalling situation is rarely covered in the media because of the massive propaganda campaign clothed by the appearance of justice working when it has clearly failed. In the last two months four former red shirt leaders and guards were ruthlessly murdered including Nuttawut and Supon “Rambo’s” guards. Sawaat Duangmanee, 60, from Srisaket was found dead in Cholburi Province, with hands tied at the back and strangled with phakhawma, one of red-shirt guards who went to visit relatives in Rayong Province; then there was
Saknarin krongkaew, (Uan Buayai), 24, Arisman guard shot dead while riding a motobike home. Now it is the turn of third-level core leader Surat Sathithangkoon (Hang Wat-Sai), 46, member of Phue Thai Party, just back from hiding in Kanchanaburi after the crackdown. Someone pumped ten rounds into him while he was inside a temple in Bangkok. Thairat covered this story: http://www.thairath.co.th/today/view/95297
Nandor von der Luehe, chairperson of the Joint Foreign Chamber of Commerce in Thailand noted,
“Reconciliation is something we worry about. If any party does not take part, you cannot have reconciliation,” he said.
“In a country that has a division between two big groups, if they don’t talk to each other, how can the gap be overcome? Ideally, they should start talking to each other again and find ways to live together.”
“If Thaksin wasn’t corrupt he’d probably still be Prime Minister today.”
I have to respectfully disagree. If Thaksin wasn’t corrupt, he will certainly not have made it to the prime minister’s chair in the first place.
I really do not understand this preoccupation with corruption here. Corruption and Politics goes hand in hand – even in the US, I believe the terminology there is ‘pork’.
It is hypocrisy to expect Taksin, as a matter of fact, any politician including Mr. Clean, to be free of corruption. It is hypocrisy to expect any politician be ‘wasn’t corrupted’. It is all a matter of degrees – and I am not sure what to call that hundred billion the US government channeled to the Big Four including Goldman Sachs via AIG disguised as a rescue package.
aiontay
No it is not a slip. Proven by:
“SPDC is having its cake and eating it too”.
I invite you to show anything otherwise that SPDC has not been able to achieve through their “Proven Knavery”.
Your comment “Freudian Slip” taken superficially I must assume that you are going down the slippery sliding slope of calling me a “Junta Stooge”?
Be that as it may let me ask you 2 questions:
1) How has west, inputs have any affect on SPDC attitude?
” Positively or negatively” will do. Provided New Mandala will allow you to qualify you answer in detail.
Just to be more specific, the west input=everything defined through the prism of “absolutely Anti SPDC”.
2)How is the citizenry of Myanmar faring from these inputs?
I sincerely believe that anyone who has true concern for for the citizenry of Mynamar should ask themselves these questions instead of just recycling the same old stuff (SOS) that are out dated and have become outright untrue and/or dangerous. At best little truth in the aspect of lessening the suffering of the most vulnerable worst allowing SPDC to progress or rather evolve to an entity that bode well for nobody.
A closely knitted SPDC with N. Korea.
Here clearly show diminish the significance of dealing with an entity.
Even if the link to Kaladan is true the real significance is SPDC “Proven Knavery” is not proven.
“Know thy Enemy” is the essential principle in wining a war against an entity that has so far got away with everything.
Time to critically ask why?
Sarah
This absolutely neither proven nor can be verified, little truth plenty of recycled lies must not be propagated as truth.
1)”Australian Company Funding human right abuses.”
Granted the company venture into the exploration will effect every one of the possible negative impact on the citizenry attempt to shut down the processes that must be public will then be forced to go underground.
“Thus effecting exactly the stated header!”
Using BEW as a “truth telling entity” is absolutely astounding.
An entity whose stated goal together with it founder Turnell is to “discourage any economic activity” with the SPDC , damn the collateral damage, the citizenry of Myanmar, not with standing.
Now the little truth:
“Business with SPDC benefit SPDC more than the citizenry.”
Nothing beyond the above statemnet is truthful or can be clearly point out to be 2┬║ to explanation in #1.
The recycled lies:
Google Turnell us congressional report and/or provided link.
If one really care about Myanmar citizenry one will then realize that persuading any company doing business with the junta must entail responsibility to the citizen of that country by encouragement or rules rather than driving their dealing underground.
Recycling the past result without considering or discerning whether the result are 2┬║ due to predicted purely SPDC fault alone or combination of west idiocy instigated SPDC survival move, make one frozen in one’s own past.
The west policy of not doing business/Santions for all the stated recycled reasons has proven true with the known caveat:
“While under the most harsh “Sanction” not seen meted out to a country who posed no threat to any western democracies like N. Korea, Cuba etc”
This fact alone will put the west’s policy as another for the Myanmar’s ills to Myanmar Citizenry.
A co-conspirator albeit inadvertently.
This recycling of SOS need to stop.
The SOS of everything and anything is the fault of the governmnet of Myanmar the SPDC.
If you guys may have remembered, he’s one of the 99-academic who submitted the Royal Complaint to pull down Gen. Prem from the Prime Minister, saying Prem was not elected by people.
If my memory is not wrong, 20 years later, he was one of the academic amongst the elites who submitted another Royal Complaint to stop Thaksin, and asked for a “Royal Prime Minister”.
During the campaign against Thaksin, the first bomb happened at Chamlong’s camp. Then a week later, at the school where Chai-Anan is a Head Master.
After that, there was a bomb at Gen. Prem’s residence.
Thaksin had an interview expressing his concern over the bomb incidents.
Chai-Anan, in early day, was appointed by Thaksin as the MD for Thai Airways, but there was some argument (or conflict), then Thaksin deposed him.
His son is also working at the Manager with Sondhi Limthongkul.
Najib is facing opposition from both inside UMNO (Muhyddin), and outside the party – the ultraMalays (Perkasa) and the Opposition ‘Pakatan Rakyat’, ie PAS, DAP & PKR. He’s still at the beck and call of the never-to-fade past PM, who insisted that his son sits in the cabinet, while the UMNO Youth Chief is left in the wilderness. So, yes, he needs to get the mandate to ‘rule’ (not govern, this is Malaysia, the PM practically rules the country!), and do things his way (or his wife’s ways, so we’re led to believe, that they co-rule the country). If the betting license was already given & up & running, I would say he’s ready to call for elections anytime. So, that plan is on-hold now.
Yet with the country declared to go bankrupt by 2019, he still found ways to increase the budget for all the white elephant projects (new palace – from RM400 million at the onset to 800 mil now, and expected to ball0on to 1.2 billion at completion, new parliament – if not for the uproar from the people, new armouries for MINDEF, etc). Today, he declared there’s still money afterall for scholarship to all ‘brilliant’ students (a slap in the face for the DPM, who already read out his proposed scheme a few days ago). All signs of spending to shore for cronies and people’s support. More, the publication license for the Opposition papers are denied, with the Rocket the only one yet to be cited. On the mainstream media’s end, they’re running stories of racist rhetorics of Ibrahim Ali vs the MCA Youth Chief, all played to the gallery. Then there’s the new story of Anwar Ibrahim the CIA agent, which used to be Anwar the Israel agent. The smear campaign has started, the clamping down of the Opposition mouthpiece in progress. Soon, the ISA and Sedition Act wil be used against some Opposition leaders, as they demand for answers for those billions lost (including the new palace). I think once they ‘cleaned-up’ their list, he’ll call for the elections. Tried and tested by his guru, Mahathir, son of Mohamed Iskandar Kutty.
It’s not so much what Lao people want as what their neighbours are going to do to them. The Lao government may have strong social control over their own people but it is riddled with corruption and as a consequence horribly vulnerable to exploitation by neighbouring states and their private sectors.
The only plus I can think of is that as wages rise elsewhere a fair bit of manufacturing will inevitably move to Lao and create some sort of economic development along the way. Probably nothing anyone is going to be proud of, but better than nothing, albeit at the expense of the environment.
Debbie – I met your father in Chiang Mai in 1977/78. Spent some wonderful hours listening to his stories. The most amazing man I have ever had the pleasure to meet. We lost contact over the years. Don’t know if he is still living in San Louis Obispo? Would love to be in contact with him again, could you please send him my e mail address.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Reg – has this Finland Plot been proven – one way or the other ?
Thanks for pointing me in the direction of Chai-Anan’s recent articles, which seem bizarre : he’s ranting about republicanism, when the major issues, at least to me, seem to be :
1) whether Thailand is going to have a more egalitarian socio-economic structure
2) whether elections results are going to be genuinely recognised.
3) whether Thai government becomes more de-centralised, federal.
4) a more level economic playing field, a more open market economy, more efficient capitalism.
From the article you’ve shown me, Chai-Anan now seems an old man who has lost his former brilliance, and is out of touch with these issues.
It is a pity Peua Thai and the Red Shirts are boycotting Anand’s panel. By the looks of the article you’ve directed me to, their in-put is desperately needed as fresh, younger air !!
It doesn’t really matter who is on the committee, because no matter who they are or what recommendations they come up with, nothing will get implemented and nothing will change.
Thai governments may nominally be in charge, but they don’t actually control very much. The country wobbles on in spite of the government, not because of it.
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On oil exploration and Burma
I went through several Oil & Gas news publication but did not find Twinza’s name on any exploration acreage in Myanmar (Burma). How kohsher is the news?
Anyway, several multimode pipelines (capable of both oil & gas) are already operational in Myanmar, so new oil or gas would be transported in the existing pipes.
Myanmar has proven 17.5 TCF of gas but not much liquid petroleum. The resource is currently being produced by the Chinese, Indians, French and the Americans. Petronas of Malaysia also has a small bit of that.
Above are the facts of Petroleum resource in Burma.
Back to sanctions – never believe in them. Sanctions only really punish the commom citizentry. The rulers would still have a good time. Development enriches the country and the flow-on, no matter how little will eventually lift everyone’s standard of living.
Thailand in Crisis: Episode 2 (р╣Бр╕Ыр╕ер╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕ар╕▓р╕йр╕▓р╣Др╕Чр╕в)
works fine for me, including subtitles… thanks very much for your effort
Bangkok: A dangerous new phase
B Edward #92
Just curious, where are you from? I can assure you that not a single farmer, street hawker, factory worker, admin workers, drivers I know have rifles and hand guns in their house in Thailand (granted they are a miniscule proportion of the Thai population). None of my relatives have rifles in their house. One distant cousin who worked as a police has a handgun. Several friends in the military have access to rifles, but I am not sure if they were allowed to take those home.
They don’t have it, that’s why they are using slingshots
“Can anyone shed light on the rationale for prevalent use of slingshots, bottle rockets, bamboo spears by the protesters? Given that rifles and hand guns are present in many households , are the crude arms being used as part of a political communications strategy? “
Thailand in Crisis: แปลเป็นภาษาไทย
David, Tarrin,
Thanks.
Thai Institutions: Judiciary
so much for history but…the judiciary was stacked in 2007 with pro-coup and antiThaksinites; it is easy to name the names, but here I’d just like to ask the question: as the judiciary has failed the people can anyone now ensure safety, equity and protection for the masses? and when will judicial/state-sanctioned killing post massacre end? While interviewing red shirt second and third level leaders in the north recently one informant received a phone call from a “watermelon” soldier saying that Abhisit and Suthep had unofficially Ok’d (and financed) local mafia to take them out at this level. This appalling situation is rarely covered in the media because of the massive propaganda campaign clothed by the appearance of justice working when it has clearly failed. In the last two months four former red shirt leaders and guards were ruthlessly murdered including Nuttawut and Supon “Rambo’s” guards. Sawaat Duangmanee, 60, from Srisaket was found dead in Cholburi Province, with hands tied at the back and strangled with phakhawma, one of red-shirt guards who went to visit relatives in Rayong Province; then there was
Saknarin krongkaew, (Uan Buayai), 24, Arisman guard shot dead while riding a motobike home. Now it is the turn of third-level core leader Surat Sathithangkoon (Hang Wat-Sai), 46, member of Phue Thai Party, just back from hiding in Kanchanaburi after the crackdown. Someone pumped ten rounds into him while he was inside a temple in Bangkok. Thairat covered this story: http://www.thairath.co.th/today/view/95297
Help us profile Thailand’s national reform committees
In addition to #23
Nandor von der Luehe, chairperson of the Joint Foreign Chamber of Commerce in Thailand noted,
“Reconciliation is something we worry about. If any party does not take part, you cannot have reconciliation,” he said.
“In a country that has a division between two big groups, if they don’t talk to each other, how can the gap be overcome? Ideally, they should start talking to each other again and find ways to live together.”
(Bangkok Post, July 12, 2010)
International Crisis Group on Thailand’s divide
Simon #10:
“If Thaksin wasn’t corrupt he’d probably still be Prime Minister today.”
I have to respectfully disagree. If Thaksin wasn’t corrupt, he will certainly not have made it to the prime minister’s chair in the first place.
I really do not understand this preoccupation with corruption here. Corruption and Politics goes hand in hand – even in the US, I believe the terminology there is ‘pork’.
It is hypocrisy to expect Taksin, as a matter of fact, any politician including Mr. Clean, to be free of corruption. It is hypocrisy to expect any politician be ‘wasn’t corrupted’. It is all a matter of degrees – and I am not sure what to call that hundred billion the US government channeled to the Big Four including Goldman Sachs via AIG disguised as a rescue package.
Thailand in Crisis: Episode 2 (р╣Бр╕Ыр╕ер╣Ар╕Ыр╣Зр╕Щр╕ар╕▓р╕йр╕▓р╣Др╕Чр╕в)
The subtitles do not show – there is only a lot of squares.
Selth on anonymity in political analysis
“Not knowing the identity of their accusers, the targets of these attacks have found it difficult to defend themselves.”
Why does one have to know the identity of one’e accusers in order to effectively defend oneself or one’s views?
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Big questions for Thailand
Simon #14
why? please explain your view
Thailand in Crisis: แปลเป็นภาษาไทย
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An auspicious gift for the Senior General
aiontay
No it is not a slip. Proven by:
“SPDC is having its cake and eating it too”.
I invite you to show anything otherwise that SPDC has not been able to achieve through their “Proven Knavery”.
Your comment “Freudian Slip” taken superficially I must assume that you are going down the slippery sliding slope of calling me a “Junta Stooge”?
Be that as it may let me ask you 2 questions:
1) How has west, inputs have any affect on SPDC attitude?
” Positively or negatively” will do. Provided New Mandala will allow you to qualify you answer in detail.
Just to be more specific, the west input=everything defined through the prism of “absolutely Anti SPDC”.
2)How is the citizenry of Myanmar faring from these inputs?
I sincerely believe that anyone who has true concern for for the citizenry of Mynamar should ask themselves these questions instead of just recycling the same old stuff (SOS) that are out dated and have become outright untrue and/or dangerous. At best little truth in the aspect of lessening the suffering of the most vulnerable worst allowing SPDC to progress or rather evolve to an entity that bode well for nobody.
A closely knitted SPDC with N. Korea.
Here clearly show diminish the significance of dealing with an entity.
Even if the link to Kaladan is true the real significance is SPDC “Proven Knavery” is not proven.
“Know thy Enemy” is the essential principle in wining a war against an entity that has so far got away with everything.
Time to critically ask why?
On oil exploration and Burma
Sarah
This absolutely neither proven nor can be verified, little truth plenty of recycled lies must not be propagated as truth.
1)”Australian Company Funding human right abuses.”
Granted the company venture into the exploration will effect every one of the possible negative impact on the citizenry attempt to shut down the processes that must be public will then be forced to go underground.
“Thus effecting exactly the stated header!”
Using BEW as a “truth telling entity” is absolutely astounding.
An entity whose stated goal together with it founder Turnell is to “discourage any economic activity” with the SPDC , damn the collateral damage, the citizenry of Myanmar, not with standing.
Now the little truth:
“Business with SPDC benefit SPDC more than the citizenry.”
Nothing beyond the above statemnet is truthful or can be clearly point out to be 2┬║ to explanation in #1.
The recycled lies:
Google Turnell us congressional report and/or provided link.
If one really care about Myanmar citizenry one will then realize that persuading any company doing business with the junta must entail responsibility to the citizen of that country by encouragement or rules rather than driving their dealing underground.
Recycling the past result without considering or discerning whether the result are 2┬║ due to predicted purely SPDC fault alone or combination of west idiocy instigated SPDC survival move, make one frozen in one’s own past.
The west policy of not doing business/Santions for all the stated recycled reasons has proven true with the known caveat:
“While under the most harsh “Sanction” not seen meted out to a country who posed no threat to any western democracies like N. Korea, Cuba etc”
This fact alone will put the west’s policy as another for the Myanmar’s ills to Myanmar Citizenry.
A co-conspirator albeit inadvertently.
This recycling of SOS need to stop.
The SOS of everything and anything is the fault of the governmnet of Myanmar the SPDC.
Help us profile Thailand’s national reform committees
Big applause to Jim Taylor#14
In addition to Chai-Anand,
If you guys may have remembered, he’s one of the 99-academic who submitted the Royal Complaint to pull down Gen. Prem from the Prime Minister, saying Prem was not elected by people.
If my memory is not wrong, 20 years later, he was one of the academic amongst the elites who submitted another Royal Complaint to stop Thaksin, and asked for a “Royal Prime Minister”.
During the campaign against Thaksin, the first bomb happened at Chamlong’s camp. Then a week later, at the school where Chai-Anan is a Head Master.
After that, there was a bomb at Gen. Prem’s residence.
Thaksin had an interview expressing his concern over the bomb incidents.
Chai-Anan, in early day, was appointed by Thaksin as the MD for Thai Airways, but there was some argument (or conflict), then Thaksin deposed him.
His son is also working at the Manager with Sondhi Limthongkul.
The 13th General Election in Malaysia
Najib is facing opposition from both inside UMNO (Muhyddin), and outside the party – the ultraMalays (Perkasa) and the Opposition ‘Pakatan Rakyat’, ie PAS, DAP & PKR. He’s still at the beck and call of the never-to-fade past PM, who insisted that his son sits in the cabinet, while the UMNO Youth Chief is left in the wilderness. So, yes, he needs to get the mandate to ‘rule’ (not govern, this is Malaysia, the PM practically rules the country!), and do things his way (or his wife’s ways, so we’re led to believe, that they co-rule the country). If the betting license was already given & up & running, I would say he’s ready to call for elections anytime. So, that plan is on-hold now.
Yet with the country declared to go bankrupt by 2019, he still found ways to increase the budget for all the white elephant projects (new palace – from RM400 million at the onset to 800 mil now, and expected to ball0on to 1.2 billion at completion, new parliament – if not for the uproar from the people, new armouries for MINDEF, etc). Today, he declared there’s still money afterall for scholarship to all ‘brilliant’ students (a slap in the face for the DPM, who already read out his proposed scheme a few days ago). All signs of spending to shore for cronies and people’s support. More, the publication license for the Opposition papers are denied, with the Rocket the only one yet to be cited. On the mainstream media’s end, they’re running stories of racist rhetorics of Ibrahim Ali vs the MCA Youth Chief, all played to the gallery. Then there’s the new story of Anwar Ibrahim the CIA agent, which used to be Anwar the Israel agent. The smear campaign has started, the clamping down of the Opposition mouthpiece in progress. Soon, the ISA and Sedition Act wil be used against some Opposition leaders, as they demand for answers for those billions lost (including the new palace). I think once they ‘cleaned-up’ their list, he’ll call for the elections. Tried and tested by his guru, Mahathir, son of Mohamed Iskandar Kutty.
Laos versus Paraguay
It’s not so much what Lao people want as what their neighbours are going to do to them. The Lao government may have strong social control over their own people but it is riddled with corruption and as a consequence horribly vulnerable to exploitation by neighbouring states and their private sectors.
The only plus I can think of is that as wages rise elsewhere a fair bit of manufacturing will inevitably move to Lao and create some sort of economic development along the way. Probably nothing anyone is going to be proud of, but better than nothing, albeit at the expense of the environment.
Big questions for Thailand
The idea that Thaksin is an advocate of democracy is just ludicrous.
From the archives: Gordon Young
Debbie – I met your father in Chiang Mai in 1977/78. Spent some wonderful hours listening to his stories. The most amazing man I have ever had the pleasure to meet. We lost contact over the years. Don’t know if he is still living in San Louis Obispo? Would love to be in contact with him again, could you please send him my e mail address.
Thanking you in anticipation.
Help us profile Thailand’s national reform committees
Reg – has this Finland Plot been proven – one way or the other ?
Thanks for pointing me in the direction of Chai-Anan’s recent articles, which seem bizarre : he’s ranting about republicanism, when the major issues, at least to me, seem to be :
1) whether Thailand is going to have a more egalitarian socio-economic structure
2) whether elections results are going to be genuinely recognised.
3) whether Thai government becomes more de-centralised, federal.
4) a more level economic playing field, a more open market economy, more efficient capitalism.
From the article you’ve shown me, Chai-Anan now seems an old man who has lost his former brilliance, and is out of touch with these issues.
It is a pity Peua Thai and the Red Shirts are boycotting Anand’s panel. By the looks of the article you’ve directed me to, their in-put is desperately needed as fresh, younger air !!
Help us profile Thailand’s national reform committees
It doesn’t really matter who is on the committee, because no matter who they are or what recommendations they come up with, nothing will get implemented and nothing will change.
Thai governments may nominally be in charge, but they don’t actually control very much. The country wobbles on in spite of the government, not because of it.