Protesters attempt to blow up oil tanker at Bon Kai clashing site
Live broadcast from Chanel 3 at 5:50 pm Monday showed protesters trying to blow up an oil tanker outside a petrol station near the Bon Kai community close to Soi Ngam Duplee on Rama IV Road.
The TV live broadcast using 3G connection showed that certain bullets hit the oil tank of oil truck but no explosion occurred yet.
Rubber tyres were burning near the oil tanker.
The station said a protester drove the truck out of the petrol station and left it in front of the station.
He would have let the poor(Juntal) rot in their homes. He did it himself while he was alive, I don’t see how it can be different if he’s here in Thailand.
Ghandi was a member of the elite, If you would compare him, compare him to Chamlong.
Trying to top wrongdoing seems counterproductive to logic. Comparing one wrong to other wrongs is that itself not…wrong? We dismiss the evil that men do because of more evil other men did. Or we attempt to lessen the severity of the wrongs committed by our friends and those we sympathize with.
The argument, too, about Thailand being unique and thus the rest of the world should understand this uniqueness is tomfoolery at best.
The sad and depressing situation we see and feel in Thailand isn’t something that just came up with Thaksin. Blame those who engineer Thai culture.
Well, for your own record, The foreign journalists, Do you see this too?
Redshirt use baby as human shield. Now good protestor still?? they are insane people out there too.
JohnH, last songkran, it was widely believed to be Newin’s crownies is behind that Gas truck outside of Dindaeng. This might be another one of his plots yet again.
Newin is a thug, yes. But he’s a very experience thug.
BTW, banks are closed early, with rumors that a lot of ppl are withdrawing cash to stockpile food&water. Or it was closed because the gov had promised to give 2.2 hundred billion baht in funding to the military, and they want it sooner than later, and this is causing cash problems for a lot of bank.(unconfirmed)
If Apisit would be more patient, we could have avoided these bloodsheds. Last week, they were close to making a deal but Apisit gave the reds a sudden deadline and then abruptly closed in on them with military force. The use of force has been out of proportion. Now, Bangkok is at war less so because of the red shirt movement but more because of the military actions. Apisit is bringing the country down and he has to be responsible for it. Violence is never an answer to conflicts. I really feel saddened by this tragedy. No words can describe the pains of many Thais, including myself, being under the nightmares of these few days.
StanG, may be to him, he feels that leaving his child as an orphan is a horrible thing to do in this HATE infested society. May be he’s right, but I’m not approving it.
But you can understand him somewhat. In this state, this is NOT the kind of country I want my child to grow up in.
Agreed on StanG and some others about this is not massacre. This is killing people with army breaking it’s own ROE regularly. But not massacre in sense of Tiananmen square.
ps. Looking at the definition here for massacre, was Tak Bai a massacre because after all they did not intend to hurt them, they were in custody and some people made very bad decisions? And Krue Se was because it included shooting inside a confined space. Not trying to flame here.
Robert Amsterdam, Thaksin’s lawyer in Bangkok. He defended former Russian oil company Yukos CEO Mikhail Khodorkovsky in one of Russia’s highest profile cases.
His Twitter
“The deadline for the #redshirts is up. Thousands of innocents are now declared as terrorists, issued death sentences w/o trial.” http://twitter.com/robertamsterdam
Neptunian#25 as a member of the Australian Republican Movement I’m far from an ideal PAD supporter / apologist! Just because I’m not rapped up in “YOUR” revolution please don’t typecast me.
I’d be very surprised to find active foreign PAD operatives on this site. Just because myself and a hand full of others blame Taksin for squandering the hope of genuine democracy offered in the 1997 constitution( he chose one party rule, re Singapore/ Malaysia) does not make us Yellow Royalist, heaven forbid!!
My linking of Taksin and the tsunami stems from an event that happened 6months before the devastation of boxing day. On this occasion Taksin made it very clear his thoughts on Tsunami warnings and there effect on tourism. Sadly he saw Dr.Smith as the little boy who cried wolf!
Natasha, you’d better listen to various sources of information. The protest leaders have announced that anyone who want to leave may leave at their will but many protestors themselves chose to stay. You can read the news on Thairath.co.th yesterday. The protest leaders also urged the protestors to evacuate their children to a temple nearby. This is way more manly than those Yellow Shirts when Chamlong requested women to surround him.
And again, another Thaksin hater saying Thaksin spent all the cheated money to hire those who are asking for a parliament dissolution. You are showing your insulting attitude to us all by saying that the protestors are hired. I don’t think that anybody is stupid enough standing there risking their life without knowing whether they will have a chance to spend the money or not.
Also, you are telling us that every Thai people is against the Red Shirts. Hope this statement will make it easier for Abhisit to give them a new election now.
Soldiers had no real gun on April, 10? Have a look here:
The derogatory way by which some commenters and many people in Bkk refer to the Red Shirts suggests, that they might be happy with the idea to further develop Nathan Myhrvold’s “Mosquito-zapper” into a “Red Shirt Zapper” – David, and others: wouldn’t that be great? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcwBH_Uevxo
I was political analyst at the Australian Embassy in 1992. I will never forget the events of Black May. I experienced something like what Nick Nostitz experienced this week, crouched on the ground outside the Royal Hotel on Sanam Luang, in utter disbelief at the mayhem and senseless killing of unarmed civilians. In exactly 18 years, I have never been so frightened.
For a few years afterwards the mood in Thailand was “never again”, and I assessed that a repeat, let alone another coup d’etat, was highly unlikely. Thailand was the democratic darling of the region. Then the Asian financial crisis hit and laid the seeds for Thaksin to assume power on a populist platform, and for the long established divide between the Bangkok elite and the rural dispossessed to emerge, on the back of uncertainty and manoeuvring over the succession.
It seems that 17 May will again be the day of reckoning. The government has back itself into a corner – there is no going back now, otherwise Abhisit will fall and the military will launch a coup d’etat, to “rescue the country from itself”. Same for the redshirts – they must be under no illusions about what is in store, and perhaps the scattered violence and uprisings in the suburbs of Bangkok will now spread to the provinces, especially in the north and northeast. In the meantime, many will die.
I don’t agree with some of the views expressed here, but we can surely agree that the it is a thoroughly depressing and sickening situation.
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Day 5 – how much longer?
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Protesters attempt to blow up oil tanker at Bon Kai clashing site
Live broadcast from Chanel 3 at 5:50 pm Monday showed protesters trying to blow up an oil tanker outside a petrol station near the Bon Kai community close to Soi Ngam Duplee on Rama IV Road.
The TV live broadcast using 3G connection showed that certain bullets hit the oil tank of oil truck but no explosion occurred yet.
Rubber tyres were burning near the oil tanker.
The station said a protester drove the truck out of the petrol station and left it in front of the station.
“Loss of faith in democracy lets hardliners stick in the boot”
Portman: Mahatma Ghandi have done?
He would have let the poor(Juntal) rot in their homes. He did it himself while he was alive, I don’t see how it can be different if he’s here in Thailand.
Ghandi was a member of the elite, If you would compare him, compare him to Chamlong.
Day 5 – how much longer?
Where is General Anupong?
17 May 1992 and 17 May 2010
Trying to top wrongdoing seems counterproductive to logic. Comparing one wrong to other wrongs is that itself not…wrong? We dismiss the evil that men do because of more evil other men did. Or we attempt to lessen the severity of the wrongs committed by our friends and those we sympathize with.
The argument, too, about Thailand being unique and thus the rest of the world should understand this uniqueness is tomfoolery at best.
The sad and depressing situation we see and feel in Thailand isn’t something that just came up with Thaksin. Blame those who engineer Thai culture.
Nick Nostitz in the killing zone
I’m sorry about my English coz i’m just a student
i don’t understand
why Yellow shirt , non-color shirt and PM hate Taksin
they said Taksin Corruption,
but economic was good when he was PM
and i just want to ask ,Apishit’s system don’t corruption?
economic go down and down
theyZyellow shirt, non-color) said Red shirt doesn’t love our Father
how do you know?
WE LOVE OUR FATHER TOO
thanks
Nick Nostitz in the killing zone
Well, for your own record, The foreign journalists, Do you see this too?
Redshirt use baby as human shield. Now good protestor still?? they are insane people out there too.
http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-445256?ref=feeds/people/connect/freakingcat
Bangkok: This is a massacre
JohnH, last songkran, it was widely believed to be Newin’s crownies is behind that Gas truck outside of Dindaeng. This might be another one of his plots yet again.
Newin is a thug, yes. But he’s a very experience thug.
BTW, banks are closed early, with rumors that a lot of ppl are withdrawing cash to stockpile food&water. Or it was closed because the gov had promised to give 2.2 hundred billion baht in funding to the military, and they want it sooner than later, and this is causing cash problems for a lot of bank.(unconfirmed)
Bangkok: This is a massacre
If Apisit would be more patient, we could have avoided these bloodsheds. Last week, they were close to making a deal but Apisit gave the reds a sudden deadline and then abruptly closed in on them with military force. The use of force has been out of proportion. Now, Bangkok is at war less so because of the red shirt movement but more because of the military actions. Apisit is bringing the country down and he has to be responsible for it. Violence is never an answer to conflicts. I really feel saddened by this tragedy. No words can describe the pains of many Thais, including myself, being under the nightmares of these few days.
Please, can someone helps stop this!!!
Bangkok: This is a massacre
Mr.V, so it’s not a massacre on the point of a technicality?
Bangkok: This is a massacre
StanG, may be to him, he feels that leaving his child as an orphan is a horrible thing to do in this HATE infested society. May be he’s right, but I’m not approving it.
But you can understand him somewhat. In this state, this is NOT the kind of country I want my child to grow up in.
Bangkok: This is a massacre
Agreed on StanG and some others about this is not massacre. This is killing people with army breaking it’s own ROE regularly. But not massacre in sense of Tiananmen square.
ps. Looking at the definition here for massacre, was Tak Bai a massacre because after all they did not intend to hurt them, they were in custody and some people made very bad decisions? And Krue Se was because it included shooting inside a confined space. Not trying to flame here.
Day 5 – how much longer?
6.15 pm in Thailand: 65 killed today
Day 5 – how much longer?
Robert Amsterdam, Thaksin’s lawyer in Bangkok. He defended former Russian oil company Yukos CEO Mikhail Khodorkovsky in one of Russia’s highest profile cases.
His Twitter
“The deadline for the #redshirts is up. Thousands of innocents are now declared as terrorists, issued death sentences w/o trial.”
http://twitter.com/robertamsterdam
Video of him in Bangkok
http://www.robertamsterdam.com/2010/05/video_cnn_interview_with_robert_amsterdam_in_bangkok.htm
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Amsterdam
Website
http://www.robertamsterdam.com/cgi-bin/mt4/mt-search.cgi?tag=asia&blog_id=1
Bangkok: This is a massacre
How did the petrol tanker currently parked in Bon Kai get there? And who is firing what at it to set it alight? And why?
Channel 3 live now. No it’s not a fake/ set up. It’s real.
Bangkok: This is a massacre
Neptunian#25 as a member of the Australian Republican Movement I’m far from an ideal PAD supporter / apologist! Just because I’m not rapped up in “YOUR” revolution please don’t typecast me.
I’d be very surprised to find active foreign PAD operatives on this site. Just because myself and a hand full of others blame Taksin for squandering the hope of genuine democracy offered in the 1997 constitution( he chose one party rule, re Singapore/ Malaysia) does not make us Yellow Royalist, heaven forbid!!
My linking of Taksin and the tsunami stems from an event that happened 6months before the devastation of boxing day. On this occasion Taksin made it very clear his thoughts on Tsunami warnings and there effect on tourism. Sadly he saw Dr.Smith as the little boy who cried wolf!
Nick Nostitz in the killing zone
Natasha, you’d better listen to various sources of information. The protest leaders have announced that anyone who want to leave may leave at their will but many protestors themselves chose to stay. You can read the news on Thairath.co.th yesterday. The protest leaders also urged the protestors to evacuate their children to a temple nearby. This is way more manly than those Yellow Shirts when Chamlong requested women to surround him.
And again, another Thaksin hater saying Thaksin spent all the cheated money to hire those who are asking for a parliament dissolution. You are showing your insulting attitude to us all by saying that the protestors are hired. I don’t think that anybody is stupid enough standing there risking their life without knowing whether they will have a chance to spend the money or not.
Also, you are telling us that every Thai people is against the Red Shirts. Hope this statement will make it easier for Abhisit to give them a new election now.
Soldiers had no real gun on April, 10? Have a look here:
http://www.france24.com/en/20100411-exclusive-france-24-footage-payen-show-soldiers-firing-crowd-riot-clashes-violence-demonstration-bangkok-thailand-crack
If you can’t see it, you are blind, may be mentally.
Clearly, Abhisit has lied so many times.
Day 5 – how much longer?
I notice that Panitan is now willing to negotiate with the protestors, but only after they are dead.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/home/2010/05/17/politics/Talk-to-resume-only-after-rally-and-riots-end-Pani-30129560.html
17 May 1992 and 17 May 2010
Who among Privy Councilors has got more blood on their hands than Thaksin?
I assume Thaksin’s number is mostly from drug war. Who can top him up with thousands of deaths?
That’s a broad accusation that needs to be at least clarified if not decisively proven.
Bangkok: This is a massacre
The derogatory way by which some commenters and many people in Bkk refer to the Red Shirts suggests, that they might be happy with the idea to further develop Nathan Myhrvold’s “Mosquito-zapper” into a “Red Shirt Zapper” – David, and others: wouldn’t that be great?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcwBH_Uevxo
17 May 1992 and 17 May 2010
I was political analyst at the Australian Embassy in 1992. I will never forget the events of Black May. I experienced something like what Nick Nostitz experienced this week, crouched on the ground outside the Royal Hotel on Sanam Luang, in utter disbelief at the mayhem and senseless killing of unarmed civilians. In exactly 18 years, I have never been so frightened.
For a few years afterwards the mood in Thailand was “never again”, and I assessed that a repeat, let alone another coup d’etat, was highly unlikely. Thailand was the democratic darling of the region. Then the Asian financial crisis hit and laid the seeds for Thaksin to assume power on a populist platform, and for the long established divide between the Bangkok elite and the rural dispossessed to emerge, on the back of uncertainty and manoeuvring over the succession.
It seems that 17 May will again be the day of reckoning. The government has back itself into a corner – there is no going back now, otherwise Abhisit will fall and the military will launch a coup d’etat, to “rescue the country from itself”. Same for the redshirts – they must be under no illusions about what is in store, and perhaps the scattered violence and uprisings in the suburbs of Bangkok will now spread to the provinces, especially in the north and northeast. In the meantime, many will die.
I don’t agree with some of the views expressed here, but we can surely agree that the it is a thoroughly depressing and sickening situation.