Thanks for showing us the PAD’s proud and heroic warriors of non-violence! They had proven their potential when tasked to “non-violently” break through the police barricades surrounding Government House. So, these people supposedly don’t belong to the “uneducated rural gullibles,” right?
# 1 Yes, it seems that the Samak government has gotten an unofficial new coalition partner…
With more court verdicts in the next 2-3 months that could significantly affect PMThaksin/PPP (the first verdict in the lower courts came out today finding Khunying Potjaman guilty of tax evasion – the first personal blow to the Shinawatras), it is probably a sound idea to be armed – at least as a deterent against an increasingly desperate (angry/mad) UDD, who have revealed (to the Thai and global public) that they are willing to resort to violence with impunity…
Ofcourse, the armed forces are also worried – as it seemed the’re not at all eager for another coup. They are pressuring the police that ‘if you can’t handle the situation, we’ll help’. I think it is critical here that the security forces, resist being politicized and remain neutral and uncompromisingly enforce the peace. If they can achieve that (two very hard tasks indeed – neutrality amidst increasingly angry/mad Thais from both sides) over the cause of the court verdicts, things could actually get much better by the end of the year – and, it is hoped, very long beyond that…
With all the anti-lese majeste sentiment in Thailand, why are people not banding together to challenge the law in the courts, suing the police and the attorney general?
It seems there is enough material to make a meaningful effort.
[…] the last PAD press conference after the Udon clashes Chamlong Srimuang and Sondhi Limthongkul announced that the PAD would now have the right to take up […]
“Every citizen shall have freedom of speech, expression, and
publication to extent that such freedom is not contrary to the
interests of the people of Union of Myanmar.”
Here is how the censorship mechanism operate in Burma.
After printing (Yes, only after a costly printing), at least five
copies of any publication including all books and most magazines are
to be submitted to the Press Scrutiny Board, a section of Ministry of Information, for their thorough inspection.
Any story, poem, cartoon, picture, photo, or word not allowed by the
censors are to be removed before the publication can go on sale. This
is done by ripping out pages, by gluing them together, by inking over,
or by sticking over with opaque tape. Quite often, if necessary, the
offending work is banned from sale all together.
(From the great little book, “Inked Over, Ripped Out” by Anna J. Allott)
This ‘recovery of martyrs’ has been going on for a long time, and reported on for an equally long time. Indeed, monuments to these ‘martyrs,’ can be found in Xieng Khoang and elsewhere.
It is in contrast to the situation before 1975 when the existence of ‘Vietnamese volunteers’ (approximately 50,000 of them) were categorically denied by Hanoi and by the Pathet Lao. This was the communist sides contribution to the so-called ‘Secret War’ in Laos.
It was Prime Minister Prince Souvanna Phouma’s objection to Vietnamese troops passing through Laos along the Ho Chi Minh Trail that dragged poor old Laos into the maelstrom of the Vietname War.
So it happens again. I remember that after having only posted a few comments in NM, I think I was accused of being “God” or something (by another “academic” if I remember correctly), and that really reminded me of my early high school days. And now being called a “Saint”! Sends me back once again to my high school days, when in fact during those days it was me mostly who was the one pointing the finger at others calling them “God” and “Saint” (which would also be accompanied by at least 4-5 annoying bowing motions, hehehehe). My usual targets would of course get quite annoyed at me!
Anyhows, it’s good to see that some “academics” are trying to keep that inner child alive. I like to keep mine alive too, but I choose a different type of behaviour, like playing video games and stuff. To each his own i suppose.
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Don’t you think let’s not rock the boat argument is pretty close to the devil you know argument and not a million miles distant from he may be a son-of-a-bitch, but he’s our son-of-a-bitch argument?
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Another case of misplaced pride, I would say. But never mind
Not wanting to reveal oneself as a Thaksinite, is a case of well placed shame, I would say. But never mind, since you are not one anyways especially since Thaksin represents the “dark side” of the folk tale srinthanochai character, whereas you have attested to liking the “lighter side” version, yes, yes, so definitely you would not see Thaksin as your hero, since he is the “wrong” type of srinthanochai.
Hope you manage to stick in the “right side” because, like in Star Wars, the “dark side” is very powerful and tempting.
Ah… angry Thais of every age – even the ajarn of AjarnSomsak… We all know the transition between ‘anger’ and ‘р╕Ър╣Йр╕▓’ is a rather short one… the whole country needs some sort of anger management – a relative decided to take meditation very seriously (hours a day – and she now thinks of PMThaksin less)… For me, commenting in NM is rather therapeutic…
Especially at this time when the Thais are so angry – as I’ve said, I can’t remember a time when politics raise so much emotion. And this is without drugs or alcohol. That does not mean that tourist can’t have a good time. Just stay out off local politics (not too hard as tourist attractions are usually far away from protests), keep away from red shirts, the yellow shirts have generally been non-violent (but angry – although the pictures I saw of their protest sites can resemble a temple fair!)…
PAD – ready for violence
Thanks for showing us the PAD’s proud and heroic warriors of non-violence! They had proven their potential when tasked to “non-violently” break through the police barricades surrounding Government House. So, these people supposedly don’t belong to the “uneducated rural gullibles,” right?
# 1 Yes, it seems that the Samak government has gotten an unofficial new coalition partner…
PAD – ready for violence
With more court verdicts in the next 2-3 months that could significantly affect PMThaksin/PPP (the first verdict in the lower courts came out today finding Khunying Potjaman guilty of tax evasion – the first personal blow to the Shinawatras), it is probably a sound idea to be armed – at least as a deterent against an increasingly desperate (angry/mad) UDD, who have revealed (to the Thai and global public) that they are willing to resort to violence with impunity…
Ofcourse, the armed forces are also worried – as it seemed the’re not at all eager for another coup. They are pressuring the police that ‘if you can’t handle the situation, we’ll help’. I think it is critical here that the security forces, resist being politicized and remain neutral and uncompromisingly enforce the peace. If they can achieve that (two very hard tasks indeed – neutrality amidst increasingly angry/mad Thais from both sides) over the cause of the court verdicts, things could actually get much better by the end of the year – and, it is hoped, very long beyond that…
Pithy summary of lese majeste in Thailand
With all the anti-lese majeste sentiment in Thailand, why are people not banding together to challenge the law in the courts, suing the police and the attorney general?
It seems there is enough material to make a meaningful effort.
PAD – ready for violence
That was before Samak was given an Interior Minister from above. Much harder to attack the police now.
Much like it is much harder to talk about Khao Phra Viharn now that the new FM is in place.
Interesting stuff
Thuggery and madness
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“I am ready to fight the Thais…”
Khun Manning – a very old suspicion now proven and convicted by the court of law. No “occult rambling” here, only justice being served:
р╕Яр╣Йр╕▓р╕Ьр╣Ир╕▓!р╕Хр╕гр╕░р╕Бр╕╣р╕ер╕Кр╕┤р╕Щр╕зр╕▒р╕Хр╕г р╕кр╕▒р╣Ир╕Зр╕Ир╕│р╕Др╕╕р╕Б ‘р╕Юр╕Ир╕бр╕▓р╕Щ’ 3 р╕Ыр╕╡ [31 р╕Б.р╕Д. 51 – 10:59] in:
http://www.thairath.co.th/onlineheadnews.html?id=98932
I welcome your comments/analysis on the case (and the long line of cases pending).
“I am ready to fight the Thais…”
My dear Sidh S: There you go again with your occult rambling!
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what a funny and idiot letter!
I don’t know if the letter can pass the secretary desk.
Thuggery and madness
# 34 Heartfelt thanks for accepting that, although I am not a PAD apologist, I am not a Thaksinite!
Ji Ungpakorn on the “carnival of reaction”
# 59 That’s a great combination to keep in contact with reality — video games (non-violent ones, I assume) and PAD!
Satire, censorship and life in Burma today
Press Freedom Burmese Way!
“Every citizen shall have freedom of speech, expression, and
publication to extent that such freedom is not contrary to the
interests of the people of Union of Myanmar.”
Here is how the censorship mechanism operate in Burma.
After printing (Yes, only after a costly printing), at least five
copies of any publication including all books and most magazines are
to be submitted to the Press Scrutiny Board, a section of Ministry of Information, for their thorough inspection.
Any story, poem, cartoon, picture, photo, or word not allowed by the
censors are to be removed before the publication can go on sale. This
is done by ripping out pages, by gluing them together, by inking over,
or by sticking over with opaque tape. Quite often, if necessary, the
offending work is banned from sale all together.
(From the great little book, “Inked Over, Ripped Out” by Anna J. Allott)
Bringing them home
This ‘recovery of martyrs’ has been going on for a long time, and reported on for an equally long time. Indeed, monuments to these ‘martyrs,’ can be found in Xieng Khoang and elsewhere.
It is in contrast to the situation before 1975 when the existence of ‘Vietnamese volunteers’ (approximately 50,000 of them) were categorically denied by Hanoi and by the Pathet Lao. This was the communist sides contribution to the so-called ‘Secret War’ in Laos.
It was Prime Minister Prince Souvanna Phouma’s objection to Vietnamese troops passing through Laos along the Ho Chi Minh Trail that dragged poor old Laos into the maelstrom of the Vietname War.
Ji Ungpakorn on the “carnival of reaction”
Re# 58
So it happens again. I remember that after having only posted a few comments in NM, I think I was accused of being “God” or something (by another “academic” if I remember correctly), and that really reminded me of my early high school days. And now being called a “Saint”! Sends me back once again to my high school days, when in fact during those days it was me mostly who was the one pointing the finger at others calling them “God” and “Saint” (which would also be accompanied by at least 4-5 annoying bowing motions, hehehehe). My usual targets would of course get quite annoyed at me!
Anyhows, it’s good to see that some “academics” are trying to keep that inner child alive. I like to keep mine alive too, but I choose a different type of behaviour, like playing video games and stuff. To each his own i suppose.
Locked up in Burma
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Denying the Democratic Voice of Burma
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Former Australian Ambassador engages Burma
Don’t you think let’s not rock the boat argument is pretty close to the devil you know argument and not a million miles distant from he may be a son-of-a-bitch, but he’s our son-of-a-bitch argument?
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[…] The National Human Rights Commission of Thailand has announced that the Cambodian ‘theft’ of Preah Vihear should be considered a serious violation of human rights. Andrew Walker has the smack-down: […]
Thuggery and madness
Re #32
Another case of misplaced pride, I would say. But never mind
Not wanting to reveal oneself as a Thaksinite, is a case of well placed shame, I would say. But never mind, since you are not one anyways especially since Thaksin represents the “dark side” of the folk tale srinthanochai character, whereas you have attested to liking the “lighter side” version, yes, yes, so definitely you would not see Thaksin as your hero, since he is the “wrong” type of srinthanochai.
Hope you manage to stick in the “right side” because, like in Star Wars, the “dark side” is very powerful and tempting.
บ้า
Ah… angry Thais of every age – even the ajarn of AjarnSomsak… We all know the transition between ‘anger’ and ‘р╕Ър╣Йр╕▓’ is a rather short one… the whole country needs some sort of anger management – a relative decided to take meditation very seriously (hours a day – and she now thinks of PMThaksin less)… For me, commenting in NM is rather therapeutic…
Time to go home
Especially at this time when the Thais are so angry – as I’ve said, I can’t remember a time when politics raise so much emotion. And this is without drugs or alcohol. That does not mean that tourist can’t have a good time. Just stay out off local politics (not too hard as tourist attractions are usually far away from protests), keep away from red shirts, the yellow shirts have generally been non-violent (but angry – although the pictures I saw of their protest sites can resemble a temple fair!)…