Somebody should probably bring this article up with the government of Mexico.
The constitution of Mexico forbids foreigners from meddling in their political affairs. It’s only in this article that Allyn openly admits his involvement.
You really don’t get it, do you? We are being SILENCED! Given your political views it is not a surprise that you were allowed to appear on the local Thai radio station in Isaan, although you didn’t mention in what city. Given my current level of disgust with the junta, and my general hotheadedness, I think it would be very unwise to “talk and debate with Thais” in a public forum as you suggest.
For just a little taste of what you can expect for mouthing off against the generals, do I need to remind you that just recently Professor Pavin has had his Thai passport revoked for not reporting to the junta leaders, despite the fact that he lives and works in Japan? Fugitive historian Somsak Jiamteerasakul will be fired from Thammasart University soon if he doesn’t report to the coup leaders, according to Pravit Rojanaphruk. He is the most prominent critic of LM now wanted by the junta. These are blatant violations of Thais fundamental civil liberties! Most of my fellow red shirt sympathizers are angry, but we are biting our tongues and biding our time, because we do NOT really want to be deported or arrested for LM or violations of the Computer Crimes Act. Losing a job in academia is only the first of our worries. So stop writing stuff that is so blatantly idiotic.
Please reserve this thread for constructive criticisms. Name calling (by the way… it’s spelled “crock” unless you’re, in fact, calling Mr. Allyn a crocodile, which is just silly) and epithets can be kept in the realm of Twitter and Facebook. This is a scholarly publication and we should show the writer an amount of respect regardless of whether or not we agree with him, as we are educated ladies and gentlemen – not children on a playground.
The use of ‘we’ as per the article is clearly in reference to the author and editorial team, obvious to anyone familiar with the standard use of written English.
Kalam, I wasn’t talking about The Perils of Loyalty. I was talking about Mr Connelly’s own piece on the Lowy site, in which he implied that Prabowo could somehow manipulate the count because he had links with gangsters. He didn’t tell readers that the gangster was in jail, he just provided a link which readers may or may not have opened. It was unethical and sloppy. Words matter because they have consequences. You should have read the Lowy piece first.
There is much to learn in comparisons between the anti-apartheid struggle in S Africa and the current situation in Thailand.
COSATU certainly played a major role and would that there were a similar organisation in Thailand. However, there was also the United Democratic Front which was more of a broad church and perhaps offers a model more applicable to the state of Thailand as so ably outlined in the original essay.
By numerous evidences Prabowo are an enemy of reformation for democracy and a worshipper of benign dictatorship. Helping such people to win in any way shall become a dent in you career.
Less Kool-Aid please. Your pseudo-nationalism is pitiful. Innocent Indonesians ? Is that a joke ? Do you how many Papuans have been massacred by Javanese TNI sadists ? Save your
dribble for when you run for President and need your rhetoric to whip up anti-Melanesian and anti-Christian fervor in Java.
The 1960 decision of the ICJ was probably a bad one. Nevertheless, 4 square kilometres of land is a trivial matter in terms of the honour of Thailand as a responsible member of the international community of nations. Thailand needed to respect the ICJ’s judgement. By flouting it, the royalists/fascists brought dishonour on their country in the eyes of the civilised world, as indeed they continue to do in the treatment of their own people.
Papua has no analog to Abu Sayyaf? Really? What about those people who kill US, Aus and German citz to blame TNI and get attention? And kill innocent Indonesian ojeks just for fun?
Drawing bar graphs or pie charts for data visualisation is not really “deep” statistics. Simple software can do that, you don’ need a tenured professor in math or stats.
I do agree with you that academics in social sciences tend to overuse statistics because numbers apparently make your arguments look more scientific (sic).
I love exposing the hypocrisy of the elites like anyone who cares about social justice should. However what can we as foreigners (or foreign based Thais) do further to help the appalling situation in 1984, or wait 2014, Thailand. These posts and commentaries are important, but I feel that we as those who are privileged to be outside of the country are not doing enough to help. I am not pointing fingers at anyone but feel frustrated that it feels like groundhog day and we are just waiting for something to happen, without actually doing anything about it.
Most likely, Hashim visited Papua in order to give Aspinal a material to write his conspirational (gossip) analysis.
or else,
Hashim must the dumbest manipulator. His visits to Papua to manipulate/steal votes is tantamount to Osama Bin Laden visits Groundzero the day after the plane crashed the Twin Tower.
I’ve spent a week in Isaan talking to a wide spectrum of people and was interviewed with others on an independent Thai radio station. New Mandal needs to stop being so one-sided and bigoted and talk and debate with Thais. The issue was raised with one of the other interviewees. I didn’t even bother or need to comment. And contrary to what is being said, the station was not blocked from broadcasting. Keep to the truth and look at both sides of an issue, New Mandala.
Gee, I don’t know, but I am guessing Papuans might like to see a bit more of their people, sitting in Parliament, in Jakarta, rather than being bribed or used as props for electoral pseudo-nationalistic purposes. Jakarta doesn’t often get out much to Papua, and when they do, most Papuans don’t feel particularly well-entertained. As Christianity and animism dominate Papuan culture, I am quite sure they are not interested in Islamic Party trade offs for votes, a standard in Indonesian elections,
and likely to overshadow Papuan electoral
contributions.
Arroyo is an odd reference. While she was not free from corruption, even in Luzon, one would think Marcos and Estrada, far better examples of nation-wide corruption at higher levels. The attempted (?) analogy between Mindanao and Papua is loose. Papuans, may not like Jakarta, but they have not yet attempted to separate via terrorism, unlike the Moro Muslims. Papua has no analog to Abu Sayyaf or the MNLF or MILF. Yes, corruption is present in both places, as it is in almost all of SE Asia, though some might argue, less so, in Singapore. Benigno Aquino III and the MNLF already signed an agreement for autonomy, which Abu Sayyaf and other groups might not concur with, but Manila and Mindanao do talk a lot, and they talk far far more than
Jakarta and Jayapura (or Manakwari) do.
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Somebody should probably bring this article up with the government of Mexico.
The constitution of Mexico forbids foreigners from meddling in their political affairs. It’s only in this article that Allyn openly admits his involvement.
Confused Thai Educators
Just a continuation of keeping the masses uneducated.
Political economy of Thai political pathologies
You really don’t get it, do you? We are being SILENCED! Given your political views it is not a surprise that you were allowed to appear on the local Thai radio station in Isaan, although you didn’t mention in what city. Given my current level of disgust with the junta, and my general hotheadedness, I think it would be very unwise to “talk and debate with Thais” in a public forum as you suggest.
For just a little taste of what you can expect for mouthing off against the generals, do I need to remind you that just recently Professor Pavin has had his Thai passport revoked for not reporting to the junta leaders, despite the fact that he lives and works in Japan? Fugitive historian Somsak Jiamteerasakul will be fired from Thammasart University soon if he doesn’t report to the coup leaders, according to Pravit Rojanaphruk. He is the most prominent critic of LM now wanted by the junta. These are blatant violations of Thais fundamental civil liberties! Most of my fellow red shirt sympathizers are angry, but we are biting our tongues and biding our time, because we do NOT really want to be deported or arrested for LM or violations of the Computer Crimes Act. Losing a job in academia is only the first of our worries. So stop writing stuff that is so blatantly idiotic.
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
Sitting Bull:
Please reserve this thread for constructive criticisms. Name calling (by the way… it’s spelled “crock” unless you’re, in fact, calling Mr. Allyn a crocodile, which is just silly) and epithets can be kept in the realm of Twitter and Facebook. This is a scholarly publication and we should show the writer an amount of respect regardless of whether or not we agree with him, as we are educated ladies and gentlemen – not children on a playground.
Thanks!
Review of State and Uncivil Society in Thailand
It is rather a lengthy article than a review of Phuangton’s slim book.
Trouble in the East?
You sure those were Papuan separatists? Not the “security” forces angling for more security funds?
Trouble in the East?
The use of ‘we’ as per the article is clearly in reference to the author and editorial team, obvious to anyone familiar with the standard use of written English.
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
Kalam, I wasn’t talking about The Perils of Loyalty. I was talking about Mr Connelly’s own piece on the Lowy site, in which he implied that Prabowo could somehow manipulate the count because he had links with gangsters. He didn’t tell readers that the gangster was in jail, he just provided a link which readers may or may not have opened. It was unethical and sloppy. Words matter because they have consequences. You should have read the Lowy piece first.
Political economy of Thai political pathologies
There is much to learn in comparisons between the anti-apartheid struggle in S Africa and the current situation in Thailand.
COSATU certainly played a major role and would that there were a similar organisation in Thailand. However, there was also the United Democratic Front which was more of a broad church and perhaps offers a model more applicable to the state of Thailand as so ably outlined in the original essay.
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
By numerous evidences Prabowo are an enemy of reformation for democracy and a worshipper of benign dictatorship. Helping such people to win in any way shall become a dent in you career.
Trouble in the East?
Pearshaped,
Less Kool-Aid please. Your pseudo-nationalism is pitiful. Innocent Indonesians ? Is that a joke ? Do you how many Papuans have been massacred by Javanese TNI sadists ? Save your
dribble for when you run for President and need your rhetoric to whip up anti-Melanesian and anti-Christian fervor in Java.
Review of State and Uncivil Society in Thailand
The 1960 decision of the ICJ was probably a bad one. Nevertheless, 4 square kilometres of land is a trivial matter in terms of the honour of Thailand as a responsible member of the international community of nations. Thailand needed to respect the ICJ’s judgement. By flouting it, the royalists/fascists brought dishonour on their country in the eyes of the civilised world, as indeed they continue to do in the treatment of their own people.
Trouble in the East?
Mas Luki you are Emas henceforth.
Papua has no analog to Abu Sayyaf? Really? What about those people who kill US, Aus and German citz to blame TNI and get attention? And kill innocent Indonesian ojeks just for fun?
Taktik Permainan Prabowo
Bisakah jokowi menolak keinginan dari megawati dan puan maharani, yang notabene sebelum dicalinkan harus meminta restu dari sang penguasa.
House of Cards
Drawing bar graphs or pie charts for data visualisation is not really “deep” statistics. Simple software can do that, you don’ need a tenured professor in math or stats.
I do agree with you that academics in social sciences tend to overuse statistics because numbers apparently make your arguments look more scientific (sic).
Confused Thai Educators
Katniss Everdeen: “It must be a fragile system if it can be brought down by just a few berries.” Catching Fire
Confused Thai Educators
I love exposing the hypocrisy of the elites like anyone who cares about social justice should. However what can we as foreigners (or foreign based Thais) do further to help the appalling situation in 1984, or wait 2014, Thailand. These posts and commentaries are important, but I feel that we as those who are privileged to be outside of the country are not doing enough to help. I am not pointing fingers at anyone but feel frustrated that it feels like groundhog day and we are just waiting for something to happen, without actually doing anything about it.
Trouble in the East?
Most likely, Hashim visited Papua in order to give Aspinal a material to write his conspirational (gossip) analysis.
or else,
Hashim must the dumbest manipulator. His visits to Papua to manipulate/steal votes is tantamount to Osama Bin Laden visits Groundzero the day after the plane crashed the Twin Tower.
Political economy of Thai political pathologies
I’ve spent a week in Isaan talking to a wide spectrum of people and was interviewed with others on an independent Thai radio station. New Mandal needs to stop being so one-sided and bigoted and talk and debate with Thais. The issue was raised with one of the other interviewees. I didn’t even bother or need to comment. And contrary to what is being said, the station was not blocked from broadcasting. Keep to the truth and look at both sides of an issue, New Mandala.
Trouble in the East?
Gee, I don’t know, but I am guessing Papuans might like to see a bit more of their people, sitting in Parliament, in Jakarta, rather than being bribed or used as props for electoral pseudo-nationalistic purposes. Jakarta doesn’t often get out much to Papua, and when they do, most Papuans don’t feel particularly well-entertained. As Christianity and animism dominate Papuan culture, I am quite sure they are not interested in Islamic Party trade offs for votes, a standard in Indonesian elections,
and likely to overshadow Papuan electoral
contributions.
Arroyo is an odd reference. While she was not free from corruption, even in Luzon, one would think Marcos and Estrada, far better examples of nation-wide corruption at higher levels. The attempted (?) analogy between Mindanao and Papua is loose. Papuans, may not like Jakarta, but they have not yet attempted to separate via terrorism, unlike the Moro Muslims. Papua has no analog to Abu Sayyaf or the MNLF or MILF. Yes, corruption is present in both places, as it is in almost all of SE Asia, though some might argue, less so, in Singapore. Benigno Aquino III and the MNLF already signed an agreement for autonomy, which Abu Sayyaf and other groups might not concur with, but Manila and Mindanao do talk a lot, and they talk far far more than
Jakarta and Jayapura (or Manakwari) do.