Your wordy essay just concentrates on the infighting within the elite. It is a shame that you did not go into details of how the pawns (troops) of both camps see the utterly disgusting behavour of the PT govt.
Yes, I agree that history will repeat itself once more as the real problems facing Thailand are once again trampled on by both camps, just to make up and become friends again.
All the mainstream political parties in Thailand are inherently undemocratic and simply rely on the pawns to accept the crumbs offered come elections.
Thaksin has no idea as to what he started by giving the people self esteem as he opened their eyes.
If this ridiculous bill becomes law then you can expect this will be the Thaksin’s clan to really disappear into history. The Red shirts must be seriously consisering forming their own party and take all the disaffected people with them. I even expect that some of the Yellow shirts will join them.
There has to be true justice if Thailand is to get out of this nasty squabble between the elitest establishment.
I end this brief missive with a couple of things very relevent to Thailand. 112 and the computer crimes law 2007 must go and sooner the better. These laws not only stifle dissent but makes a complete mockery of the educational system as students are not taught to think but react. without students gaining the real history of their own country, warts and all, this cycle will continue. Democratising Thailand will take time and as the PT have shown it will take longer by passing this blanket amnesty. However, these blankets will be used to bury the dead corpses of the PT party.
As I noted on your Facebook, there’s no need to be depressed. A 62,584 word essay takes time to digest. You’d appreciate that in the 4 days since it was posted few have had the luxury of reading every word. I’ll do so; as will many others no doubt. But with all the other activity this week it might take a back seat.
If we’re about to see a new phase of Thai political conflict (and some of the worried messages in my inbox suggest we are) then be assured New Mandala will play its usual role. Those of you who have contributions to make (whether those be photo-essays, commentary pieces, etc), please send them through to the usual place.
My characteristically wordy essay contains a number of insights that any credible observer of Thailand would want to comment on, even in a negative way. I’m surprised by this response, but as we have seen recently, New Mandala has given up covering Thailand.
Personally I could have grudgingly accepted the Thaksin amnesty bill had the bill included lese majeste too. Then there could have been some real injustice undone by the amnesty.
But the amnesty is primarily to benefit one Thaksin Shinawatra and anything else would be distractions.
I had always maintained that the Peau Thai Party was ‘Shinawatra Incorporated’, looking only for the interest of Thaksin & family. And the UDD was a 100% subsidiary.
What I want to know from the many Red symphatizers at New Mandala is what do they think now of Thaksin & Yingluck, the Peau Thai Party and UDD now, after the Thaksin-amnesty bill passed the parliamentary 3rd reading?
(Personally I felt that Peau Thai Party, Thaksin & Yingluck and UDD had treated their Red followers disrectfully. Lots of angry Reds I heard are prepared to sever their ties with UDD and PT Party, explaining that they are not, to quote, “Red buffaloes”.)
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[…] are some excerpts from an article he was invited to write for New Mandala recently (full article here). He notes that the paradigmatic understanding of the subject was laid out by the great George […]
The sad reality is they are still by and large underfed and undernourished, unable to attain their full physical genetic potential. It renders them vulnerable to communicable diseases of all kinds.
Fizzy drinks and processed foods, alcohol consumption on the rise particularly among the young and ‘trendy’ including women, the native custom of betel chewing as well as tobacco, none of that augers well for the future.
An eastern incursion namely the production of palm oil increasingly replacing the traditional peanut oil bodes ill for cardiovascular health.
Small scale farm mechanisation assisting the food producers in the countryside has to be a priority. But instead the powers that be are bent on driving them out of the land replacing them with agribusiness (read aggrobusiness) Western style growing cash crops for export. Food aid and imports in the offing, indebtedness all round, austerity measures imposed by the IMF the global chettiar. So the future is bright. The future is Monsanto and its GMOs.
British Asians have made Birmingham the diabetes capital of the UK. Better incomes and availability of certain foods appear to be contributory factors notwithstanding a good health service and health education.
” … Once the Thai Parliament … starts discussing the bills it should make sure that any proposed amnesty explicitly excludes those who committed gross violations of human rights. MPs might need to recognize that Thailand’s international obligations are at stake, in addition to those to victims at home.” – Carlos Fernandez
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
That was Thaksin Shinawatra and Yingluck Shinawatra laughing … after the amnesty bill was passed by the Thai parliament yesterday … specifically to return Thaksin’s “ill-gotten billions” and grant him full pardon plus interest!
The Red Shirts should be elated that their Beloved Leader will be back … soon!
Au contraire, ANU must be proud of Dr Chan for coming forward with amends that dealt with present situation in DPRK with historical facts that has made continuation of present policy ridiculous and dangerous.
Jame,
I know of a thesis written in Australia that you will be interested in, and you might be also interested also in my book; Cambodia Coins & Currency, which is available from Monument Books. Please contact me and I will send you the web address to read the thesis.
Howard
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Your wordy essay just concentrates on the infighting within the elite. It is a shame that you did not go into details of how the pawns (troops) of both camps see the utterly disgusting behavour of the PT govt.
Yes, I agree that history will repeat itself once more as the real problems facing Thailand are once again trampled on by both camps, just to make up and become friends again.
All the mainstream political parties in Thailand are inherently undemocratic and simply rely on the pawns to accept the crumbs offered come elections.
Thaksin has no idea as to what he started by giving the people self esteem as he opened their eyes.
If this ridiculous bill becomes law then you can expect this will be the Thaksin’s clan to really disappear into history. The Red shirts must be seriously consisering forming their own party and take all the disaffected people with them. I even expect that some of the Yellow shirts will join them.
There has to be true justice if Thailand is to get out of this nasty squabble between the elitest establishment.
I end this brief missive with a couple of things very relevent to Thailand. 112 and the computer crimes law 2007 must go and sooner the better. These laws not only stifle dissent but makes a complete mockery of the educational system as students are not taught to think but react. without students gaining the real history of their own country, warts and all, this cycle will continue. Democratising Thailand will take time and as the PT have shown it will take longer by passing this blanket amnesty. However, these blankets will be used to bury the dead corpses of the PT party.
Back to Thailand’s future
Thanks Andrew,
Easy — no need to apologise. I completely understand. It’s a big job. And good luck with the translation!
Best wishes,
Nich
Back to Thailand’s future
Thanks Nich. Apologies for my grumpiness. I have been up for the past 42 hours finishing my book. Best wishes.
Back to Thailand’s future
9/11/13? Has that got a nice ring to it?
But what does the handbook say?
Best wishes to all,
Nich
Back to Thailand’s future
Thanks Andrew,
As I noted on your Facebook, there’s no need to be depressed. A 62,584 word essay takes time to digest. You’d appreciate that in the 4 days since it was posted few have had the luxury of reading every word. I’ll do so; as will many others no doubt. But with all the other activity this week it might take a back seat.
If we’re about to see a new phase of Thai political conflict (and some of the worried messages in my inbox suggest we are) then be assured New Mandala will play its usual role. Those of you who have contributions to make (whether those be photo-essays, commentary pieces, etc), please send them through to the usual place.
Best wishes to all,
Nich
Back to Thailand’s future
Nic, please clarify Saturday Nov 9 or Sunday Nov 10.
Thanks.
Back to Thailand’s future
My characteristically wordy essay contains a number of insights that any credible observer of Thailand would want to comment on, even in a negative way. I’m surprised by this response, but as we have seen recently, New Mandala has given up covering Thailand.
Back to Thailand’s future
Thailand’s future remains unknown. One thing I am certain of is that Thaksin is a crook and he belongs in jail in Thailand.
Malaysia-US and Malaysia-China relations
Either you are very naive or you support China or both!
Malaysia-US and Malaysia-China relations
Why Would China Want or Need to Have a Naval Base in a Foreign Land in the First Place ?
China Has Always Maintained its Stand on Peaceful Resolutions Through Negotiations, Should Any Dispute Arises.
If anything, Brunei is a Better Suited Candidate , with Less Complexity .
Loyalty demands ambiguity
Personally I could have grudgingly accepted the Thaksin amnesty bill had the bill included lese majeste too. Then there could have been some real injustice undone by the amnesty.
But the amnesty is primarily to benefit one Thaksin Shinawatra and anything else would be distractions.
Thailand’s international human rights obligations in question
I had always maintained that the Peau Thai Party was ‘Shinawatra Incorporated’, looking only for the interest of Thaksin & family. And the UDD was a 100% subsidiary.
What I want to know from the many Red symphatizers at New Mandala is what do they think now of Thaksin & Yingluck, the Peau Thai Party and UDD now, after the Thaksin-amnesty bill passed the parliamentary 3rd reading?
(Personally I felt that Peau Thai Party, Thaksin & Yingluck and UDD had treated their Red followers disrectfully. Lots of angry Reds I heard are prepared to sever their ties with UDD and PT Party, explaining that they are not, to quote, “Red buffaloes”.)
Counting Thailand’s coups
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Angkor revisited
[…] are some excerpts from an article he was invited to write for New Mandala recently (full article here). He notes that the paradigmatic understanding of the subject was laid out by the great George […]
On the cusp of disease transition in Myanmar
The sad reality is they are still by and large underfed and undernourished, unable to attain their full physical genetic potential. It renders them vulnerable to communicable diseases of all kinds.
Fizzy drinks and processed foods, alcohol consumption on the rise particularly among the young and ‘trendy’ including women, the native custom of betel chewing as well as tobacco, none of that augers well for the future.
An eastern incursion namely the production of palm oil increasingly replacing the traditional peanut oil bodes ill for cardiovascular health.
Small scale farm mechanisation assisting the food producers in the countryside has to be a priority. But instead the powers that be are bent on driving them out of the land replacing them with agribusiness (read aggrobusiness) Western style growing cash crops for export. Food aid and imports in the offing, indebtedness all round, austerity measures imposed by the IMF the global chettiar. So the future is bright. The future is Monsanto and its GMOs.
On the cusp of disease transition in Myanmar
British Asians have made Birmingham the diabetes capital of the UK. Better incomes and availability of certain foods appear to be contributory factors notwithstanding a good health service and health education.
Thailand’s international human rights obligations in question
” … Once the Thai Parliament … starts discussing the bills it should make sure that any proposed amnesty explicitly excludes those who committed gross violations of human rights. MPs might need to recognize that Thailand’s international obligations are at stake, in addition to those to victims at home.” – Carlos Fernandez
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
That was Thaksin Shinawatra and Yingluck Shinawatra laughing … after the amnesty bill was passed by the Thai parliament yesterday … specifically to return Thaksin’s “ill-gotten billions” and grant him full pardon plus interest!
The Red Shirts should be elated that their Beloved Leader will be back … soon!
Malaysia to build bridges with North Korea
Au contraire, ANU must be proud of Dr Chan for coming forward with amends that dealt with present situation in DPRK with historical facts that has made continuation of present policy ridiculous and dangerous.
Angkor revisited
Jame,
I know of a thesis written in Australia that you will be interested in, and you might be also interested also in my book; Cambodia Coins & Currency, which is available from Monument Books. Please contact me and I will send you the web address to read the thesis.
Howard