Aung Zaw’s writings are not worthy to quote. He is the founder of donors-stooge Irrawaddy which serve constantly as mouth-piece of so-called Rohingya illegal terrorists.
This post is a blow to the biased article from Sai Latt. You did not say much, but silence probably is the best sign to counter reversed racism from Sai Latt. I was frustrated at the Rohingya propaganda machine that is sweeping sympathy from international media, while in Maungdaw, they are burning down the Arakanese villages unscrupulously. In sittwe, Arakanese fought back and attempted to safeguard their homes and lives, thus ending up in exchange of affairs. They could do so because of the equal representation of population. Living in a Muslim majority area is a precarious decision to make. No offence!
I wonder why Muslims did not stay tolerant of the Taungup incident, which obviously is a huge mistake the Arakanese people did (or people even say the military did that). No matter what, I blamed the Arakanese for that act. Why did not Muslims show tolerance and take advantage of that Arakanese savagery to promote their own plight. But they retaliated with might and violence in another part of the state against innocent Arakanese. That is seeking an eye for an eye; which is a shame and which is an act that left them without any sympathy from the Burmese majority.
There must have been around two dozen Thai military coups already, most successful. The latest in year 2006 to oust Thaksin Shinawatra was rated ‘popular’, very popular with democracy-loving Bangkokians showering garlans to the tanks.
No wonder Red shirt leader Jatuporn has been making lots of noise recently . . . coinciding with the ‘reconciliation-er-amnesty-to-Thaksin’ maneuvering of that Thaksin-puppet Peau Thai Party. Jatuporn even threatened to get 1.0 million Red shirts marching to Bangkok (with or without petrol-filled bottles, he prudently did not mention) if there is a sniff of a coup brewing.
But if Peau Thai Party stubbornly proceed with the ‘Thaksin-amnesty’ gambit, it’s almost a certainty those men in khakis will launch another military coup ‘to restore order and peace’ to Thailand. Thai generals so-and-so could easily say the Red mobs, the Yellow mobs, the Black Shirt mobs and just mobs here and there had been incited to anarchy by the issue of that deplorable’Thaksin amnesty.
The Democrats, PAD and multi-cloured facists and their semi-hidden handlers want a coup. They have now maneuvered into a position more extreme than the military. It seems more likley they will try one of those judicial coups. The better talents of the 111 are returning, the democrats are utterly paranoid that Thaksin will return and utterly anhialate them as an electoral force, and the PTP are still by far the biggest political game in town.
It also seems clear that the military are not stupid in their assessments of the internal and extrenal resistance to any military coup attempt. There is a chance it will actually fail due to people resistance andnot the usual elite refusal to back that has stopped past ones. Of course if a military coup is defeated by the people that is the end of elite managed demcoracy. Even if they were to pull a succesful take over of, there is now a good chance that the country would remain in turmoil for a long time and see its economy ruined.
With those circumstances obvious it is highly unlikley that unless special or extreme circumstances arise or they see real threat to the monarchy or the PTP or reds really do lose popularity (not some bollocks in the Post about them being less popular, but really do lose it upcountry), it is highly unlikley that the military are going to risk everything to please a serially failed poltical party that has forced all dissent out led by an arrogant prick, a lunatic facist doctor and his cultists, a bunch of fading yellow shirted ultra-nationalists or a group of aging amart.
More interesting though is how far the courts will go in interpeting the seperation of powers. It is possible that a totally neutered parliament could be created by interpretation of law. Then it wouldnt matter who people voted for as parliament couldnt actually change anything or do anything that judges didnt want them to do. It also seems there is no check on how these interpretations are made and little to no media coverage of it.
Rohingyas have been there for at least 150 years! You’re totally wrong. They were Bengalis, those who were brought to Arakan by the british colonialists. There has never been any Rohingya in Arakan, Burma, or anywhere else. Till today Christian Solidarity Worldwide, a British based ultra Christian organization has been lobbying for rohingyanism … because it is the British colonialists’ creaton. if these muslim people of Arakan want to live in peace and be a citizen of Burma, they should learn to respect the values of Burma first, they should ove Burma and all its constitution and respect sovereignty. these rohingya is a created word for demanding secessionism of burma. Ujania please put it right, you are not respecting what Burma is – a sovereign entity on this earth. Besides can a foreigner be a citizen of Saudi Arabia, simply because he has been there for 150 years? citizenship can be given only to those who do not lie, like the socalled rohingyas … who invented the name rohingya instead of being Bengali for demanding an Arakan of islmic kings, etc. there is only one award … death penalty.
On the same Post story, PPT commented, with another quote
“Under present circumstance, the “outside factor” is not ripe enough to compel the armed forces to stage a coup. The ammart (elite) will use soldiers as a last resort to fight Thaksin Shinawatra and his supporters. Now the elite is waiting to see what happens in the judicial process and among independent organisations. If the government interferes with them, that could provide the grounds for staging a coup.” (http://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/the-judicial-coup-continues-ii/)
The paragraphs Nich highlighted in Violet Cho’s piece are spot on. The political will on the part of the leaders however remains the predictably depressing element. Neither the Rohingya leadership nor the govt is receptive of such a sensible idea except under duress perhaps. If the whole episode was instigated by the USDP as some have indicated the Rohingya all too readily snapped at the bait. As the situation ‘spirals out of control’ it would justify ‘legitimate’ state violence to be meted out, a good pretext that was lacking in Operation King Dragon in 1978. The Rohingya end up adrift at sea or unwanted in Chittagong once more, a lot worse off than they have ever been.
In talking about this conflict, Islamophobia is a feature. This is linked to post 911 global terrorism discourse that has been imported into Burma.
It serves to heighten the anxiety but irrelevant regarding ethnic cleansing (going back to 1942) as well as secessionist (simply Mujahideen as they called themselves in 1947 before Burmese independence) attempts by the so called Rohingya.
Perhaps MUCH to the disappointment of the doomsayers, the all out genocide and purging and killing, destroyings between the arch enemies to end the world seems to have quiet down to not so publicable levels.
Aung Zaw’s sugggestion of spread to Rangoon becuase the majority Buddhists are bent to destroy all the Muslim is not going to happen either. Sorry.
It is still a devestating event for the people involved and their relatives and the associated communities.
Again, all the crisis carries opportunities.
There is no other way but to rebuild the country together again with better understanding and cooperation among the neighbours because this should be a terrible lesson to teach everyone that hatred and animosity simply makes things worse.
The measure of the sincerity of the military would be seen by their level of asisstance to the Rohingya people hurt in this episode. As simple as that.
Wider question of the citizenship can be sorted out later by the authorities.
Facebook commentators should also learn that the mainstream media and the academics will highlight your abusive, spur of the moment, angry outburst as the representative of the other 90 percent of the country who may not even have a clue what was being said.
Talking about comparing Burma to Saudi Arabia instead of more civic
Canada or Australis make sense. Even when this issue is immigration,
criminal laws (mobs of any faith who are setting fire, killing each other,
etc..), we still cannot forget the powerful dynamics of geography, history
and politics.
Regarding geography, Burma unlike Canada does not have a rich neighbor
like America, the United States buffer more populous and poor Mexico.
Whilst Saudi Arabia is the land important for Sunni Islam and so is Burma
for Theravada Buddhism. Burma is the citadel of Buddhist faith. Burmese know that and they are proud of it, foreign invasion of different faith has
made things more violent. Rakhines are intermarrying with non-Rakhines,
non-Buddhists but no to Bengalis. Tying knots with Bengali means more
than a taboo for a Rakhine, it is treason. You do not marry someone who
killed you, invaded your land, set fire to your homes.
There is the economy, copying Canada, providing free meals and housing
to illegals will cripple Burmese economy, one of the poorest countries in
the world although still an attractive place for illegals from 3 times more
populous, 3 times smaller in size (9 times more populated in a square km)
and sinking under the rising sea.
‘This repeated senseless, denial of and debating the legitimacy of the identity “Rohingyia”, as part of the Citizenry/Burmese Muslim citizen within the borders, underscores the very basic of Humanity:
The right to exist under any name.”
“This answer Plan B (for reaming his bottom till soreness) claim that it is not time for discussing Bengalis equal to Rohingya”
@ #70 Long Live Burma
Debating the issue of Rohingyias must go beyond ‘the nomenclature of a group’ and even more moronic over it ‘existence’.
Delaying for a real solution/status risk repeated unacceptable sectarian violence that only strengthen anti Bamar entities.
It has been clearly the failure of the government of Myanmar to implement and enforce the exiting immigration and naturalization statues, “THE RULE OF LAW”, for at least the past 3 decades has allowed the mostly trans border immigrants that called themselves “Rohingyias”, clearly an entity, of Muslim to reside within Myanmar borders.
legitimized faultily by BBC as well as UNHCR as minority in order to persecute then SPDC by any means.
Thailand differentiate citizen from refugees, documented aliens etc through a concerted combined effort of military and police backed by clear statues w/o religious or racial overtones.
Until the rule of law, that can provide this clear Immigration & Naturalization is provided, by this government, together with concerted military and police actions my bottom shall remain sore from sitting down too long to answer to comments like yours.
“Suu Kyi was further embarrassed this week by anti-Rohingya statements by two human rights activists who were previously among her staunchest supporters.
“The Rohingya are not a Burmese ethnic group,” said Ko Ko Gyi, a leader of the now-disbanded 88 Students Generation activist group, who was recently given an amnesty after serving five years’ imprisonment for defying the former military regime.
“The root cause of the violence… comes from across the border and foreign countries,” he said.
“This is astonishing stuff coming from a supposed human rights activist,” said one Western observer. “Such statements go a long way to support the belief that the government is trying to manipulate opposition circles wherever it can in order to sabotage Aung San Suu Kyi.”
Mr Damage -3
In these days of dynastic change (lets see it for what it is!) The Pheua Thai is following multiple paths and dialogues to ensure the future security of the Shinawatra dynasty a la Lee Kwan Yiew. Yingluck is there to smooth ruffled feathers, sing tunes form Prem’s songbook and keep everyone relaxed na ka? Chalerm wields the big stick and appeals to the macho vote much as Suthep did before him. The military high command will ultimately follow the money as they have since 1932 with a pledge to uphold the monarchy, the latest constitution, and the Shinawatra family as guardians of both of the above. (religion, nation and people will be left out as this is the 21stC and we are all ciwilai now)
I don’t write this as a PAD apologist. I just don’t think there is any realistic alternative scenario. Thaksin et famille will run the country as an oligarchal monopoly. Royalty will be recompensed and run out to open hospitals and garden fetes as they do in Cambodia and the red-shirts will be left to figure out where it all went wrong. This is SE Asia after all and options are culturally limited. Progress? Well you tell me. Change? Let’s be modern and call it a “franchise reboot”.
I’m sure all the above will be perfectly acceptable to the US state department and Chinas New Republican ideals. They have probably already been briefed (See Madam Clintons comments today.) This will also give the Thai military two bidders to play off for control of the SE Asian rice-bowl.
Thai society as a whole will politely and respectfully refrain from comment whilst this delicate transition of power transpires as only they know how. Those members of the aristocracy uncomfortable with any perceived loss of local status long ago shifted the bulk of their assets to safe havens and will retire to foreign shores where their ancient titles, lineage and blue diamonds will be admired at the country club.
“you don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows”
To the person who wrote “95 Then imported labour, illegal immigration and invasaion now “,
Are you so proud to compare Burma to Saudi Arabia, a country that is way too blessed having petro that flows like water from a Spring. Breside, who told you that Saudi Arabia has slavery? if you really want to learn about the history of middle east learn from the real history sources , not here and there of propaganda website.
Here is the starting info about middle east: Ever heard Babylon? That’s Iraq? Ever heard Mesopotamia? Guess what that region is not known as. Ever heard Fertile Crescent? Do you know that it is in the middle east?
This tribal mentality, pointing fingers at bengalis for your sorry state of life is not going to get you much far in life but you still don’t have a clue about it.
I am with Zaw Tun that the governmen is diverting the attention of electricity shortage away from people. After I made the last post, I came to realize that the government was behind this. Also, Burmese people, even those outside Burma and in fact in western countries, still do not understand much about anything with regards to economics and infrastructure needed to get Burma out of the situation it is in. They have a tendency to fear based on tribal competition that they are so used to and hence think that if Rohingyas get full citizenship, the Rohingys will do well economically and they (mostly Buddhists) will be left behind.
With the oppressionsthe Rohingys have been facing, some Rohingyas have become like Jews, a close-knit group with connections all over the world which would defintely help them in a free market economy in Burma though the majority of the Rohingyas are stuck in villages inside Burma and refugees camp in bandgladesh langusihing away. As for the Buddhist population, their favored status has protected them from the kind of struggles that Rohingyas have been going through and in my honest opinion, ihas made them less informed about the subject of economics and much other. Still not too late to learn but an open mind above prejudice is necessary.
Of course it’s not so simplistic as attaining greater readership with speculation, but to me this seems like a great non-story over a beer before going on to discuss more juicy non-speculative information. Taking the quotes for stability from the establishment and speculating that the opposite may happen is of course logical in a non-transparent political environment. A coup could have happened at any time post Yingluck’s election. Wassana’s speculation doesn’t suggest any recent events are particularly more acute than previous situations. Who was talking about the September 2006 coup well before it happened?
I find Craig Reynold’s review’s conclusion much more telling about the amorphous power relationships which may or may not engender a coup, and the purpose behind Wissana’s recent article.
“Such is the trickery and camouflage reported in Wassana’s book. She has pieced together a jigsaw puzzle of rivalries and relationships, networks and alliances, and power blocs in the army and the political parties to make a compelling case for how the sciences of prognostication, divination and the dark arts of spells and curses motivate the behaviour of civilian and military leaders. For help in hedging risk, dealing with uncertainty, and nudging history in a favourable direction, civilians and soldiers alike consult custodians of this knowledge. As the Thai saying goes, ‘if you don’t believe in it, don’t disparage it’. Just to play it safe.”
I disparage this type of article because there’s nothing in it to believe , just a lot of ‘he said’, ‘she said’, and assumption. There’s no information about actual spells being cast. It’s for those who yearn to be on the inside… And doesn’t everyone? (hence the generating readership conspiracy/skepticism)…
I believe that there will be regime change in Thailand tomorrow! DON’T DISPARAGE THIS! I consulted my fried rice.
Nobody’s sure because uncertainty sells advertising space at a higher price. If there’s another coup in Thailand, the Thai economy will crumple. Nobody needs that now.
Facebook 
Twitter 
Soundcloud 
Youtube 
Rss
Intolerance, Islam and the Internet in Burma
Aung Zaw’s writings are not worthy to quote. He is the founder of donors-stooge Irrawaddy which serve constantly as mouth-piece of so-called Rohingya illegal terrorists.
Coup talk in Thailand 2012
Why would they coup? Yingluck has made it unnecessary to coup … has already couped for them.
I think this article is to take the focus off the coup that has already taken place, the judicial coup, aided and abetted by the PM herself.
Voices of moderation on Burmese Facebook
Thanks Dave and Ma Violet,
This post is a blow to the biased article from Sai Latt. You did not say much, but silence probably is the best sign to counter reversed racism from Sai Latt. I was frustrated at the Rohingya propaganda machine that is sweeping sympathy from international media, while in Maungdaw, they are burning down the Arakanese villages unscrupulously. In sittwe, Arakanese fought back and attempted to safeguard their homes and lives, thus ending up in exchange of affairs. They could do so because of the equal representation of population. Living in a Muslim majority area is a precarious decision to make. No offence!
I wonder why Muslims did not stay tolerant of the Taungup incident, which obviously is a huge mistake the Arakanese people did (or people even say the military did that). No matter what, I blamed the Arakanese for that act. Why did not Muslims show tolerance and take advantage of that Arakanese savagery to promote their own plight. But they retaliated with might and violence in another part of the state against innocent Arakanese. That is seeking an eye for an eye; which is a shame and which is an act that left them without any sympathy from the Burmese majority.
Coup talk in Thailand 2012
There must have been around two dozen Thai military coups already, most successful. The latest in year 2006 to oust Thaksin Shinawatra was rated ‘popular’, very popular with democracy-loving Bangkokians showering garlans to the tanks.
No wonder Red shirt leader Jatuporn has been making lots of noise recently . . . coinciding with the ‘reconciliation-er-amnesty-to-Thaksin’ maneuvering of that Thaksin-puppet Peau Thai Party. Jatuporn even threatened to get 1.0 million Red shirts marching to Bangkok (with or without petrol-filled bottles, he prudently did not mention) if there is a sniff of a coup brewing.
But if Peau Thai Party stubbornly proceed with the ‘Thaksin-amnesty’ gambit, it’s almost a certainty those men in khakis will launch another military coup ‘to restore order and peace’ to Thailand. Thai generals so-and-so could easily say the Red mobs, the Yellow mobs, the Black Shirt mobs and just mobs here and there had been incited to anarchy by the issue of that deplorable’Thaksin amnesty.
Right gentlemen?
Coup talk in Thailand 2012
The Democrats, PAD and multi-cloured facists and their semi-hidden handlers want a coup. They have now maneuvered into a position more extreme than the military. It seems more likley they will try one of those judicial coups. The better talents of the 111 are returning, the democrats are utterly paranoid that Thaksin will return and utterly anhialate them as an electoral force, and the PTP are still by far the biggest political game in town.
It also seems clear that the military are not stupid in their assessments of the internal and extrenal resistance to any military coup attempt. There is a chance it will actually fail due to people resistance andnot the usual elite refusal to back that has stopped past ones. Of course if a military coup is defeated by the people that is the end of elite managed demcoracy. Even if they were to pull a succesful take over of, there is now a good chance that the country would remain in turmoil for a long time and see its economy ruined.
With those circumstances obvious it is highly unlikley that unless special or extreme circumstances arise or they see real threat to the monarchy or the PTP or reds really do lose popularity (not some bollocks in the Post about them being less popular, but really do lose it upcountry), it is highly unlikley that the military are going to risk everything to please a serially failed poltical party that has forced all dissent out led by an arrogant prick, a lunatic facist doctor and his cultists, a bunch of fading yellow shirted ultra-nationalists or a group of aging amart.
More interesting though is how far the courts will go in interpeting the seperation of powers. It is possible that a totally neutered parliament could be created by interpretation of law. Then it wouldnt matter who people voted for as parliament couldnt actually change anything or do anything that judges didnt want them to do. It also seems there is no check on how these interpretations are made and little to no media coverage of it.
BBC under fire on Rohingyas
Rohingyas have been there for at least 150 years! You’re totally wrong. They were Bengalis, those who were brought to Arakan by the british colonialists. There has never been any Rohingya in Arakan, Burma, or anywhere else. Till today Christian Solidarity Worldwide, a British based ultra Christian organization has been lobbying for rohingyanism … because it is the British colonialists’ creaton. if these muslim people of Arakan want to live in peace and be a citizen of Burma, they should learn to respect the values of Burma first, they should ove Burma and all its constitution and respect sovereignty. these rohingya is a created word for demanding secessionism of burma. Ujania please put it right, you are not respecting what Burma is – a sovereign entity on this earth. Besides can a foreigner be a citizen of Saudi Arabia, simply because he has been there for 150 years? citizenship can be given only to those who do not lie, like the socalled rohingyas … who invented the name rohingya instead of being Bengali for demanding an Arakan of islmic kings, etc. there is only one award … death penalty.
Coup talk in Thailand 2012
On the same Post story, PPT commented, with another quote
“Under present circumstance, the “outside factor” is not ripe enough to compel the armed forces to stage a coup. The ammart (elite) will use soldiers as a last resort to fight Thaksin Shinawatra and his supporters. Now the elite is waiting to see what happens in the judicial process and among independent organisations. If the government interferes with them, that could provide the grounds for staging a coup.” (http://thaipoliticalprisoners.wordpress.com/2012/06/14/the-judicial-coup-continues-ii/)
That seems rather telling.
Voices of moderation on Burmese Facebook
Phew!
Somehow the academics and the experts missed them altogether.
And the policies are going to be based on their opinion!
Racing for answers in divided Myanmar
The paragraphs Nich highlighted in Violet Cho’s piece are spot on. The political will on the part of the leaders however remains the predictably depressing element. Neither the Rohingya leadership nor the govt is receptive of such a sensible idea except under duress perhaps. If the whole episode was instigated by the USDP as some have indicated the Rohingya all too readily snapped at the bait. As the situation ‘spirals out of control’ it would justify ‘legitimate’ state violence to be meted out, a good pretext that was lacking in Operation King Dragon in 1978. The Rohingya end up adrift at sea or unwanted in Chittagong once more, a lot worse off than they have ever been.
In talking about this conflict, Islamophobia is a feature. This is linked to post 911 global terrorism discourse that has been imported into Burma.
It serves to heighten the anxiety but irrelevant regarding ethnic cleansing (going back to 1942) as well as secessionist (simply Mujahideen as they called themselves in 1947 before Burmese independence) attempts by the so called Rohingya.
Intolerance, Islam and the Internet in Burma
Perhaps MUCH to the disappointment of the doomsayers, the all out genocide and purging and killing, destroyings between the arch enemies to end the world seems to have quiet down to not so publicable levels.
Aung Zaw’s sugggestion of spread to Rangoon becuase the majority Buddhists are bent to destroy all the Muslim is not going to happen either. Sorry.
It is still a devestating event for the people involved and their relatives and the associated communities.
Again, all the crisis carries opportunities.
There is no other way but to rebuild the country together again with better understanding and cooperation among the neighbours because this should be a terrible lesson to teach everyone that hatred and animosity simply makes things worse.
The measure of the sincerity of the military would be seen by their level of asisstance to the Rohingya people hurt in this episode. As simple as that.
Wider question of the citizenship can be sorted out later by the authorities.
Facebook commentators should also learn that the mainstream media and the academics will highlight your abusive, spur of the moment, angry outburst as the representative of the other 90 percent of the country who may not even have a clue what was being said.
Intolerance, Islam and the Internet in Burma
Talking about comparing Burma to Saudi Arabia instead of more civic
Canada or Australis make sense. Even when this issue is immigration,
criminal laws (mobs of any faith who are setting fire, killing each other,
etc..), we still cannot forget the powerful dynamics of geography, history
and politics.
Regarding geography, Burma unlike Canada does not have a rich neighbor
like America, the United States buffer more populous and poor Mexico.
Whilst Saudi Arabia is the land important for Sunni Islam and so is Burma
for Theravada Buddhism. Burma is the citadel of Buddhist faith. Burmese know that and they are proud of it, foreign invasion of different faith has
made things more violent. Rakhines are intermarrying with non-Rakhines,
non-Buddhists but no to Bengalis. Tying knots with Bengali means more
than a taboo for a Rakhine, it is treason. You do not marry someone who
killed you, invaded your land, set fire to your homes.
There is the economy, copying Canada, providing free meals and housing
to illegals will cripple Burmese economy, one of the poorest countries in
the world although still an attractive place for illegals from 3 times more
populous, 3 times smaller in size (9 times more populated in a square km)
and sinking under the rising sea.
Racing for answers in divided Myanmar
Bertil Litner can be counted on 100%:
1) Anti Bamar/Anti anything SPDC every time.
2) Pro DAw AUng San Suu Kyi.
Even at this point DASSK decision somewhat lock step with Thein Sein/SPDC government for the greater good of Myanmar Citizenry as a whole.
Bertil Litner need to travel within the Yakhine state.
Preferably by cars and experience the true conditions of deprivations that Ms Cho is describing.
And realize what his contribution to the overall deprivation solely from his anti Bamar/anti SPDC stance.
Intolerance, Islam and the Internet in Burma
‘This repeated senseless, denial of and debating the legitimacy of the identity “Rohingyia”, as part of the Citizenry/Burmese Muslim citizen within the borders, underscores the very basic of Humanity:
The right to exist under any name.”
“This answer Plan B (for reaming his bottom till soreness) claim that it is not time for discussing Bengalis equal to Rohingya”
@ #70 Long Live Burma
Debating the issue of Rohingyias must go beyond ‘the nomenclature of a group’ and even more moronic over it ‘existence’.
Delaying for a real solution/status risk repeated unacceptable sectarian violence that only strengthen anti Bamar entities.
It has been clearly the failure of the government of Myanmar to implement and enforce the exiting immigration and naturalization statues, “THE RULE OF LAW”, for at least the past 3 decades has allowed the mostly trans border immigrants that called themselves “Rohingyias”, clearly an entity, of Muslim to reside within Myanmar borders.
legitimized faultily by BBC as well as UNHCR as minority in order to persecute then SPDC by any means.
Thailand differentiate citizen from refugees, documented aliens etc through a concerted combined effort of military and police backed by clear statues w/o religious or racial overtones.
Until the rule of law, that can provide this clear Immigration & Naturalization is provided, by this government, together with concerted military and police actions my bottom shall remain sore from sitting down too long to answer to comments like yours.
Intolerance, Islam and the Internet in Burma
Is Burma regime inciting Rakhine conflict to discredit Aung San Suu Kyi?
Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/asia-pacific/burma/47364/burma-regime-inciting-rakhine-conflict-discredit-aung-san-suu-kyi#ixzz1xnbhtdHQ
http://www.theweek.co.uk/asia-pacific/burma/47364/burma-regime-inciting-rakhine-conflict-discredit-aung-san-suu-kyi
“Suu Kyi was further embarrassed this week by anti-Rohingya statements by two human rights activists who were previously among her staunchest supporters.
“The Rohingya are not a Burmese ethnic group,” said Ko Ko Gyi, a leader of the now-disbanded 88 Students Generation activist group, who was recently given an amnesty after serving five years’ imprisonment for defying the former military regime.
“The root cause of the violence… comes from across the border and foreign countries,” he said.
“This is astonishing stuff coming from a supposed human rights activist,” said one Western observer. “Such statements go a long way to support the belief that the government is trying to manipulate opposition circles wherever it can in order to sabotage Aung San Suu Kyi.”
Read more: http://www.theweek.co.uk/asia-pacific/burma/47364/burma-regime-inciting-rakhine-conflict-discredit-aung-san-suu-kyi#ixzz1xnbnGW8g
Coup talk in Thailand 2012
Mr Damage -3
In these days of dynastic change (lets see it for what it is!) The Pheua Thai is following multiple paths and dialogues to ensure the future security of the Shinawatra dynasty a la Lee Kwan Yiew. Yingluck is there to smooth ruffled feathers, sing tunes form Prem’s songbook and keep everyone relaxed na ka? Chalerm wields the big stick and appeals to the macho vote much as Suthep did before him. The military high command will ultimately follow the money as they have since 1932 with a pledge to uphold the monarchy, the latest constitution, and the Shinawatra family as guardians of both of the above. (religion, nation and people will be left out as this is the 21stC and we are all ciwilai now)
I don’t write this as a PAD apologist. I just don’t think there is any realistic alternative scenario. Thaksin et famille will run the country as an oligarchal monopoly. Royalty will be recompensed and run out to open hospitals and garden fetes as they do in Cambodia and the red-shirts will be left to figure out where it all went wrong. This is SE Asia after all and options are culturally limited. Progress? Well you tell me. Change? Let’s be modern and call it a “franchise reboot”.
I’m sure all the above will be perfectly acceptable to the US state department and Chinas New Republican ideals. They have probably already been briefed (See Madam Clintons comments today.) This will also give the Thai military two bidders to play off for control of the SE Asian rice-bowl.
Thai society as a whole will politely and respectfully refrain from comment whilst this delicate transition of power transpires as only they know how. Those members of the aristocracy uncomfortable with any perceived loss of local status long ago shifted the bulk of their assets to safe havens and will retire to foreign shores where their ancient titles, lineage and blue diamonds will be admired at the country club.
“you don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows”
Intolerance, Islam and the Internet in Burma
To the person who wrote “95 Then imported labour, illegal immigration and invasaion now “,
Are you so proud to compare Burma to Saudi Arabia, a country that is way too blessed having petro that flows like water from a Spring. Breside, who told you that Saudi Arabia has slavery? if you really want to learn about the history of middle east learn from the real history sources , not here and there of propaganda website.
Here is the starting info about middle east: Ever heard Babylon? That’s Iraq? Ever heard Mesopotamia? Guess what that region is not known as. Ever heard Fertile Crescent? Do you know that it is in the middle east?
This tribal mentality, pointing fingers at bengalis for your sorry state of life is not going to get you much far in life but you still don’t have a clue about it.
Intolerance, Islam and the Internet in Burma
I am with Zaw Tun that the governmen is diverting the attention of electricity shortage away from people. After I made the last post, I came to realize that the government was behind this. Also, Burmese people, even those outside Burma and in fact in western countries, still do not understand much about anything with regards to economics and infrastructure needed to get Burma out of the situation it is in. They have a tendency to fear based on tribal competition that they are so used to and hence think that if Rohingyas get full citizenship, the Rohingys will do well economically and they (mostly Buddhists) will be left behind.
With the oppressionsthe Rohingys have been facing, some Rohingyas have become like Jews, a close-knit group with connections all over the world which would defintely help them in a free market economy in Burma though the majority of the Rohingyas are stuck in villages inside Burma and refugees camp in bandgladesh langusihing away. As for the Buddhist population, their favored status has protected them from the kind of struggles that Rohingyas have been going through and in my honest opinion, ihas made them less informed about the subject of economics and much other. Still not too late to learn but an open mind above prejudice is necessary.
Coup talk in Thailand 2012
Of course it’s not so simplistic as attaining greater readership with speculation, but to me this seems like a great non-story over a beer before going on to discuss more juicy non-speculative information. Taking the quotes for stability from the establishment and speculating that the opposite may happen is of course logical in a non-transparent political environment. A coup could have happened at any time post Yingluck’s election. Wassana’s speculation doesn’t suggest any recent events are particularly more acute than previous situations. Who was talking about the September 2006 coup well before it happened?
I find Craig Reynold’s review’s conclusion much more telling about the amorphous power relationships which may or may not engender a coup, and the purpose behind Wissana’s recent article.
“Such is the trickery and camouflage reported in Wassana’s book. She has pieced together a jigsaw puzzle of rivalries and relationships, networks and alliances, and power blocs in the army and the political parties to make a compelling case for how the sciences of prognostication, divination and the dark arts of spells and curses motivate the behaviour of civilian and military leaders. For help in hedging risk, dealing with uncertainty, and nudging history in a favourable direction, civilians and soldiers alike consult custodians of this knowledge. As the Thai saying goes, ‘if you don’t believe in it, don’t disparage it’. Just to play it safe.”
I disparage this type of article because there’s nothing in it to believe , just a lot of ‘he said’, ‘she said’, and assumption. There’s no information about actual spells being cast. It’s for those who yearn to be on the inside… And doesn’t everyone? (hence the generating readership conspiracy/skepticism)…
I believe that there will be regime change in Thailand tomorrow! DON’T DISPARAGE THIS! I consulted my fried rice.
Coup talk in Thailand 2012
That is a good quote, isn’t it. Unfortunately Ms Wassana did not let us know this time who, politician or bureaucrat, is seeing whom, soothsayer.
Coup talk in Thailand 2012
Nobody’s sure because uncertainty sells advertising space at a higher price. If there’s another coup in Thailand, the Thai economy will crumple. Nobody needs that now.