Interesting. Australian analysts seem to endlessly apply so much statistics to a nation, Indonesia, that probably has no more than 20 tenured professors of mathematics and statistics. Maybe better use could be put to scholarly exchanges between Australian and Indonesian mathematicians and statisticians, then trying to milk a buffalo with no teets (draw imaginary electoral numbers out of a hat).
Anyone claiming to want to do something for democracy should be on the discerning side. It seems in agreeing to work for Prabowo Mr Allyn has done nothing but disservice to democracy. Anyone who has witnessed how erratically dishonest Prabowo’s team has been must be able to see that. I suggest, if you care about democracy, Mr Allyn that you resign your commission with and denounce him publicly. If not, the least you could do is help amend his motto, “magnanimous in victory, undaunted in defeat.” I believe he forgets the “gracious in defeat” variety.
Yes, “joint management of Preah Vihear still seems the best solution.” But best solutions aren’t in the best interests of certain entities who pretend to fight for Thai dignity but in reality are seeking conflict for political advantage.
Bukan….pd saat kejadian & sidang dkp pun smua jenderal diatasnya malah sdh menanyakan atas perintah siapa melakukan itu.. tpi jawabannya berkelit2 & hnya bilang ada perintah atasan.. Atasan yg dimaksud kemgkinan sangat mengarah ke atasan yg paling tinggi, sang Panglima Tinggi, yaitu pak Soeharto (presiden) sendiri saat itu. Ini jg ditulis di buku pak Habibie & bbrp sumber lain.
Well Mr. Rob Allyn, what I have seen so far is a foreigner who does not speak in the language of Indonesians.
If you think you can manipulate the media, well you maybe did a good job. But, if you think these strategic communications of yours contribute to good governance? I must said BIG NO! I bet, you will not even stay to see how Indonesians fall apart because of the issues that you framed in your communication messages that easily directed people to tell the other candidate as PKI, Chinese, or Christian.
This part of your article:
… Our clean, issue-focused TV ads have been cited as a key factor helping both clients to close a gap of 30 points during the last two months of their campaigns … and perhaps to win the presidency.”
Ads?! The electoral process is not like selling some street foods. There are responsibilities embedded in the each steps of the process. You are not just talking to high political elites, but you talk to more than 200 million Indonesians that you barely know. Some of them have no access to information and struggle with poverty, some of them face serious health problems, some of them lost their families, husbands, sons without knowing where they are. The challenge would be, will you, after what you have done to Indonesian people going to stay to fix the problem? If the answer is no…then think of what you are writing. Please bear in mind, you are not writing a fiction novel…you are writing a history of a nation. Write it well…
I’m Indonesian. i exactly know that puritanism follower (called wahabi) behind prabowo.So this is treat to Indonesians diversity & democracy if prabowo elected as president.
Ally, we heard Ur Voice, we Counted Ur word, while 4 days before KPU announce for presidential result, you leave Prabowo in Hambalang istal.
Good by and we wait you for next five years. Good bye Allyn. Good Job ..
So because every camp relies on the numbers of their own friends who own the survey institutions and who do anything not to discredit their faborite candidate, the value of the real count in Indonesia is equal to the exit polls; zero.
Two major institutions refuse an audit by Persepi btw. Rather telling, isn’t it?
The only option is to wait for the 22nd. And hope and pray not too many kurang will occur..
[…] Jokowi a fraction behind. The basis for this claim comes from a handful of polling bodies with questionable backgrounds, several of which are connected to Prabowo’s campaign team. Some of the polls showing a […]
Indonesia is a very wealthy country, yet overwhelming majority of its people barely able to feed themselves. While foreign multinationals sucks up the riches and a tiny minority of its citizen of foreign descent controls most of its assets and economy.
This issue was brought into attention by a Yale Professor, Amy Chua on her book – World on Fire: How Exporting Free Market Democracy Breeds Ethnic Hatred and Global Instability .
And I believe this is what mr. Subianto plans to address. Though hopefully not by the means similar to Malaysia’s Mahathir policies. In order to avoid future conflicts. While mr. Widodo prefers to accept that by nature, indigenous Indonesians are incapable of managing their own wealth. Thus, shutting them out of progress and prosperity.
Either way, sooner or later, something’s got to give. As most indigenous Indonesian I speak to are sick and tired of not being master of their own fate.
Just hope when the time comes, it will not be too violent.
I’ve been in the Advertizing industry for 20 years, and I’d say he has done a good job, for clean and honesty in your TV ads I think you and I know that it is not the place to put such claims.
Magnifying presidential candidates weakness is not the same as fabricating one
It is important for you to mention Jokowi as your client –in 2012 election campaign for Governor of Jakarta– so that the readers will see you as professional who are/were working for both candidates, Prabowo Subianto & Joko Widodo. However, you hide the fact that you were working for Mr. Subianto/Gerindra who supported Jokowi-Ahok for Governor & Vice Gov. of Jakarta. In other words, Jokowi was not your direct client. The way you claim Jokowi as your client is a tricky one …
Untuk kasus 98 almarhum Munir pernah mengungkap siapa dalangnya,ditayangkan sama SCVT,dan selang beberpa hari Munir di bunuh.dan untuk para pendukung no 2 ada bahaya aqidah,karena ada kader dari Syah,jalaludin rahmat,yang jelas menurut fatwa MUI sesat,dan didukung kyai Qurais Syhab yang membolehkan perempuan ga pakai kerudung,da mengatakan nabi Muhammad.tidak di jamin masuk sura (sungguh menyesatkan),partai PDIP yang selalu menolak Dolly ditutup,selalu keluar sidang apabila membahas uu tentang berbau islam.bagi yg masih punya Iman??? Pantaskah no 2 didukung??? Jokowi bagus ko,tapi yang dibelakang dia ancaman bagi aqidah yang akan memecah umat dan keamanan negara,bisa2 indonesia perang saudara kaya suriyah,memang bukan berarti no 1 sempurna,melihat dari madaratnya,maka garuda merah lebih dikit madaratnya…namun apabila no 2 jd presiden,maka kita juga siap mengawal agar indonesia tetap utuh,…
Maybe ‘we’ refers to only them and those who agree with him?
… or maybe ‘we’ is just the accepted style in academic writing since using “I” is considered arrogant and pretentious, while using passive voice all the time is bound to annoy both the writer and the reader?
In my opinion,these problems are inherent in three approaches under Thai traditional structures: (1) the basic education curriculum of Thailand continues to be operated by a bureaucracy under a centralized model of power, driven by a centralized mechanism of junta. (2) The curriculum is still based on top-down theories of policy implementation run by elites of education such as Vicharn,Nagavachara.(3) The paradigm and philosophy behind the curriculum retain the characteristics of conservative ideology against democracy resulting from a long held dominance of that ideology in the Thai education system.
Rob Allyn, do not pretend that we the indonesian do not know your reputation either in indonesia or in the world …
if what you did in the U.S. and in Mexico was all about the money nothing we should care. but do not say that you are working for a better democracy in Indonesia …
by backing up prabowo with black campaign to jokowi, falsifying almost all the facts and trying to fool, not only the people of Indonesia but also the world with your article, one thing is clear that you will only divide indonesian ….even probably to cause a bloodshed …
you are what you do…. you will just ignore if anything worst happen to Indonesian people, while you fly back to US with a bunch of Indonesian people money …. you are much worse than a snake, you are a COWARD.
Bukan prasangka buruk sih…tapi kita ingin sllu belajar, berpikir, dan berjaga2 terhadap sgala kemungkinan yg bisa mengancam Indonesia.. krn kita peduli & cinta Indonesia.
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House of Cards
Interesting. Australian analysts seem to endlessly apply so much statistics to a nation, Indonesia, that probably has no more than 20 tenured professors of mathematics and statistics. Maybe better use could be put to scholarly exchanges between Australian and Indonesian mathematicians and statisticians, then trying to milk a buffalo with no teets (draw imaginary electoral numbers out of a hat).
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
Anyone claiming to want to do something for democracy should be on the discerning side. It seems in agreeing to work for Prabowo Mr Allyn has done nothing but disservice to democracy. Anyone who has witnessed how erratically dishonest Prabowo’s team has been must be able to see that. I suggest, if you care about democracy, Mr Allyn that you resign your commission with and denounce him publicly. If not, the least you could do is help amend his motto, “magnanimous in victory, undaunted in defeat.” I believe he forgets the “gracious in defeat” variety.
Review of State and Uncivil Society in Thailand
Yes, “joint management of Preah Vihear still seems the best solution.” But best solutions aren’t in the best interests of certain entities who pretend to fight for Thai dignity but in reality are seeking conflict for political advantage.
Taktik Permainan Prabowo
Betul @pak Gantz… sesuatu yg sdh sangat dipersiapkan..keterlaluan sekali membodohkan suara rakyat. Sebaiknya diulang lagi & diproses hukum…
Taktik Permainan Prabowo
Bukan….pd saat kejadian & sidang dkp pun smua jenderal diatasnya malah sdh menanyakan atas perintah siapa melakukan itu.. tpi jawabannya berkelit2 & hnya bilang ada perintah atasan.. Atasan yg dimaksud kemgkinan sangat mengarah ke atasan yg paling tinggi, sang Panglima Tinggi, yaitu pak Soeharto (presiden) sendiri saat itu. Ini jg ditulis di buku pak Habibie & bbrp sumber lain.
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
Well Mr. Rob Allyn, what I have seen so far is a foreigner who does not speak in the language of Indonesians.
If you think you can manipulate the media, well you maybe did a good job. But, if you think these strategic communications of yours contribute to good governance? I must said BIG NO! I bet, you will not even stay to see how Indonesians fall apart because of the issues that you framed in your communication messages that easily directed people to tell the other candidate as PKI, Chinese, or Christian.
This part of your article:
… Our clean, issue-focused TV ads have been cited as a key factor helping both clients to close a gap of 30 points during the last two months of their campaigns … and perhaps to win the presidency.”
Ads?! The electoral process is not like selling some street foods. There are responsibilities embedded in the each steps of the process. You are not just talking to high political elites, but you talk to more than 200 million Indonesians that you barely know. Some of them have no access to information and struggle with poverty, some of them face serious health problems, some of them lost their families, husbands, sons without knowing where they are. The challenge would be, will you, after what you have done to Indonesian people going to stay to fix the problem? If the answer is no…then think of what you are writing. Please bear in mind, you are not writing a fiction novel…you are writing a history of a nation. Write it well…
Indonesia’s democracy is in danger
I’m Indonesian. i exactly know that puritanism follower (called wahabi) behind prabowo.So this is treat to Indonesians diversity & democracy if prabowo elected as president.
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
Ally, we heard Ur Voice, we Counted Ur word, while 4 days before KPU announce for presidential result, you leave Prabowo in Hambalang istal.
Good by and we wait you for next five years. Good bye Allyn. Good Job ..
Taktik Permainan Prabowo
Puskaptis menolak diaudit. JSI mengundurkan diri dari persepi. Kenapa ya?
Confused Thai Educators
Nice work here Frank! Keep it up!
How to read a quick count
So because every camp relies on the numbers of their own friends who own the survey institutions and who do anything not to discredit their faborite candidate, the value of the real count in Indonesia is equal to the exit polls; zero.
Two major institutions refuse an audit by Persepi btw. Rather telling, isn’t it?
The only option is to wait for the 22nd. And hope and pray not too many kurang will occur..
Prabowo’s game plan
[…] Jokowi a fraction behind. The basis for this claim comes from a handful of polling bodies with questionable backgrounds, several of which are connected to Prabowo’s campaign team. Some of the polls showing a […]
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
Indonesia is a very wealthy country, yet overwhelming majority of its people barely able to feed themselves. While foreign multinationals sucks up the riches and a tiny minority of its citizen of foreign descent controls most of its assets and economy.
This issue was brought into attention by a Yale Professor, Amy Chua on her book – World on Fire: How Exporting Free Market Democracy Breeds Ethnic Hatred and Global Instability .
And I believe this is what mr. Subianto plans to address. Though hopefully not by the means similar to Malaysia’s Mahathir policies. In order to avoid future conflicts. While mr. Widodo prefers to accept that by nature, indigenous Indonesians are incapable of managing their own wealth. Thus, shutting them out of progress and prosperity.
Either way, sooner or later, something’s got to give. As most indigenous Indonesian I speak to are sick and tired of not being master of their own fate.
Just hope when the time comes, it will not be too violent.
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
I’ve been in the Advertizing industry for 20 years, and I’d say he has done a good job, for clean and honesty in your TV ads I think you and I know that it is not the place to put such claims.
Magnifying presidential candidates weakness is not the same as fabricating one
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
It is important for you to mention Jokowi as your client –in 2012 election campaign for Governor of Jakarta– so that the readers will see you as professional who are/were working for both candidates, Prabowo Subianto & Joko Widodo. However, you hide the fact that you were working for Mr. Subianto/Gerindra who supported Jokowi-Ahok for Governor & Vice Gov. of Jakarta. In other words, Jokowi was not your direct client. The way you claim Jokowi as your client is a tricky one …
Taktik Permainan Prabowo
Untuk kasus 98 almarhum Munir pernah mengungkap siapa dalangnya,ditayangkan sama SCVT,dan selang beberpa hari Munir di bunuh.dan untuk para pendukung no 2 ada bahaya aqidah,karena ada kader dari Syah,jalaludin rahmat,yang jelas menurut fatwa MUI sesat,dan didukung kyai Qurais Syhab yang membolehkan perempuan ga pakai kerudung,da mengatakan nabi Muhammad.tidak di jamin masuk sura (sungguh menyesatkan),partai PDIP yang selalu menolak Dolly ditutup,selalu keluar sidang apabila membahas uu tentang berbau islam.bagi yg masih punya Iman??? Pantaskah no 2 didukung??? Jokowi bagus ko,tapi yang dibelakang dia ancaman bagi aqidah yang akan memecah umat dan keamanan negara,bisa2 indonesia perang saudara kaya suriyah,memang bukan berarti no 1 sempurna,melihat dari madaratnya,maka garuda merah lebih dikit madaratnya…namun apabila no 2 jd presiden,maka kita juga siap mengawal agar indonesia tetap utuh,…
Trouble in the East?
Maybe ‘we’ refers to him and Marcus only?
Maybe ‘we’ refers to only them and those who agree with him?
… or maybe ‘we’ is just the accepted style in academic writing since using “I” is considered arrogant and pretentious, while using passive voice all the time is bound to annoy both the writer and the reader?
Confused Thai Educators
In my opinion,these problems are inherent in three approaches under Thai traditional structures: (1) the basic education curriculum of Thailand continues to be operated by a bureaucracy under a centralized model of power, driven by a centralized mechanism of junta. (2) The curriculum is still based on top-down theories of policy implementation run by elites of education such as Vicharn,Nagavachara.(3) The paradigm and philosophy behind the curriculum retain the characteristics of conservative ideology against democracy resulting from a long held dominance of that ideology in the Thai education system.
Every vote must be counted, every voice must be heard
Rob Allyn, do not pretend that we the indonesian do not know your reputation either in indonesia or in the world …
if what you did in the U.S. and in Mexico was all about the money nothing we should care. but do not say that you are working for a better democracy in Indonesia …
by backing up prabowo with black campaign to jokowi, falsifying almost all the facts and trying to fool, not only the people of Indonesia but also the world with your article, one thing is clear that you will only divide indonesian ….even probably to cause a bloodshed …
you are what you do…. you will just ignore if anything worst happen to Indonesian people, while you fly back to US with a bunch of Indonesian people money …. you are much worse than a snake, you are a COWARD.
Taktik Permainan Prabowo
Bukan prasangka buruk sih…tapi kita ingin sllu belajar, berpikir, dan berjaga2 terhadap sgala kemungkinan yg bisa mengancam Indonesia.. krn kita peduli & cinta Indonesia.