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  1. pearshaped says:

    Steal the election? More likely he’s just copying Whitlam and the ALP ‘we wuz robbed’ to nurture a militant grievance among supporters for the next tilt in 5 years. The headlines should be ‘Prabowo learns from Australia.’

  2. Moe Aung says:

    Little wonder they have remained kindred spirits with the generals next door despite a bit of occasional squabbling and sabre rattling.

  3. Moe Aung says:

    The usual suspects I agree. The repetitive, long winded, convoluted or plain unintelligible and emotive language as well as the use of romanised Burmese without bothering to translate not helping either. FYI my thumb remains idle.

  4. @fajarred says:

    Although his winning is much preferable than Prabowo’s, like Obama’s, a lot of Jokowi’s core support from outside the party structure will be dissapointed with his inability to deliver his promises. There is just no way he can solve the human rights issues since many generals from those terrible times are on his camp. Likewise, cleaning up the economy will be difficult with people like JK, Wanandi, Riyadis on his side.
    Another good thing from this result is having PKS as opposition. We can expect fierce control both in DPR and in the street from these guys. That is, if they dont get compromised by JK’s style of bridge-building communication, straight-talking “inclusiveness”.

  5. Salim H. says:

    Not even going to try and act like you respect the process enough to wait until the 22nd to call Jokowi “president?”

  6. Gundiver says:

    Let’s alone having decent bathroom and other sanitary facilities in rural schools, Has any one who visit Bangkok ever noticed the apparent lack of public toilet in the city. Despite investing ridiculously propotion of national budget in developing utility and public transport systems in the capital, the better-off Bangkokians are virtually unaware that they have to rely on toilets’s provided hotels and department store when being outside their home since they have never demand for such facility in any of local elections. This demonstrate the dis-connection middle-class urban people have with the current election system where these people, unlike rural folks who are preceived to be uneducated, do not know what they want from the elected politicians as they have been spoiled by too much concentration of wealth (70% of national budget, 30% of electricity supply etc.

    By the way, the lower-income people in Bangkok can tell how good the the City Governors are in doing their job by just looking at facilities provided at bus stops.

  7. John Roosa says:

    yes, precisely what needs to be said at this moment

  8. Ken Ward says:

    The analogy with Obama is frightening. Is Jokowi’s talk about Palestine going to have no more impact than Obama’s much-ballyhooed Cairo speech that nobody remembers any more?

    Will Jokowi also appoint as his foreign minister a nationalist hawk like Clinton, who called on Libyans to ‘capture Gaddafi or kill him’ or a combined clown and motormouth like Kerry, the fearsome scourge of the Netanyahu government?

    What overseas enemies, including of course Indonesian citizens, will Jokowi strike down with locally-made drones?

    On the domestic front, which grossly over-paid bailed-out bank executive will Jokowi call a ‘savvy businessman’ instead of putting the KPK onto his trail? What concentration of banking power will occur under his presidency as has riskily taken place under Obama’s limp mantle? ?

    Let’s hurry back to reality. The problem with popularity being Jokowi’s bargaining chip is that he has to know how to use it. If he is faced with massed opposition in parliament, as may well come about, will he threaten to dissolve it? Jokowi probably needs to create his own party. But that will be hard for an incumbent president to do. Maybe his American pseudo soul-mate should have tried to do that too. But that wasn’t part of Obama’s ‘big reformist agenda’.

  9. Monique says:

    How long that integrity (Jokowi) may last will likely determine the course of democracy in Indonesia.

  10. Monique says:

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    Say (O Muhammad SAW to the people of the Scripture): “Shall I inform you of something worse than that, regarding the recompense from Allah: those (Jews) who incurred the Curse of Allah and His Wrath, those of whom (some) He transformed into monkeys and swines, those who worshipped Taghut (false deities); such are worse in rank (on the Day of Resurrection in the Hell-fire), and far more astray from the Right Path (in the life of this world).” When they come to you, they say: “We believe.” But in fact they enter with (an intention of) disbelief and they go out with the same. And Allah knows all what they were hiding. And you see many of them (Jews) hurrying for sin and transgression, and eating illegal things [as bribes and Riba (usury), etc.]. Evil indeed is that which they have been doing.Why do not the rabbis and the religious learned men forbid them from uttering sinful words and from eating illegal things. Evil indeed is that which they have been performing. The Jews say: “Allah’s Hand is tied up (i.e. He does not give and spend of His Bounty).” Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for what they uttered. Nay, both His Hands are widely outstretched. He spends (of His Bounty) as He wills. Verily, the Revelation that has come to you from Allah increases in most of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. We have put enmity and hatred amongst them till the Day of Resurrection. Every time they kindled the fire of war, Allah extinguished it; and they (ever) strive to make mischief on earth. And Allah does not like the Mufsidun (mischief-makers)(5:60-64).

  11. Nakal says:

    There are innumerable Surahs in the Quran, unflattering to Jews, to say the least. One can easily google these and find the annotations. To not acknowledge this, is to deny the Quran itself.

  12. Allan Beesey says:

    According to the responses to the Quality Comment or not? It does seem that NM readers are ignoring the comments by a few ‘insiders’, I think that says it all!

  13. Hang Tuah says:

    If you have to ask, then you already know the answer.

  14. Hang Tuah says:

    Yes, it is from the Hadiths, you are correct.
    I am not confusing the two. But as the Hadiths remain integral to Sunni Islamic belief, the anti-Semitic comment remains valid and remains important, as it has been uttered by thousands of Muftis in the Islamic World, not to mention common Muslims.

  15. Think before you speak says:

    The ‘only-education-should-get-a-vote’ idea entirely misunderstands the modern idea of democracy. Obviously. However, of course it is education that evey democracy has to build on if it should work. Here it is indeed scary that so-called educated people, a university lecturer and her student ‘friend’ (?), deliver such a poorly argued piece. There was a reason why subjects such as Logic have always been highly regarded in philosophy. Every university administrator who wants to cut back on proper General Education subjects in Thailand (I know they exist, even at the authors’ institution) should think twice (if these people are interested in proper education, which they rarely are). By the way, the concerned college promotes itself in the name of a Liberal Arts Education.One wonders.

  16. angrymagpie says:

    I think you may be confusing hadith with the Quran
    What you quoted here is not from the Quran.

  17. Rhumakhin says:

    I am not surprised that the authors take a pro-coup position. In an article in Khaosod about Ponn Virulrak, a lecturer at a well-known Thai Uni., has come out to say that people aren’t equal and only certain people with an exclusive education should be allowed to vote. It seems that many people in Thailand who are supposedly university- educated cannot differentiate between individuals’ fundamental rights and privileges. On Ponn Virulrak’s Facebook , he either intentionally mislead or made up stories about the election process in the US. I wonder if he has any sense of right and wrong. Perhaps, the only sense some of these people have is entitlement.

    I don’t want to mention much about the education and infrastructure in Thailand. Whoever has the privilege of managing Thailand, please make sure at least all the schools, especially those in the rural areas, have decent bathrooms. It should not be a responsibility of individual foreign donors to build the bathrooms. This responsibility belongs to the government.

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  19. bialao says:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/10955996/BBC-takes-on-Thailand-dictatorship-with-a-pop-up-Thai-service.html

    General Prayuth Chan-ocha, the junta leader, has warned against protests or resistance to the army’s takeover, saying they would slow the process of bringing back “happiness” to the Thai people.

    He said it would take at least two to three months to achieve reconciliation in the deeply divided country, and then more time to write a new constitution and set up an interim government.

    Two to three months. I would be worried if he actually believes the stuff he says…

  20. Phil Entres says:

    By reading the first paragraphs of this opinion piece one should doubt the academic achievements one of the authors gained in Nottingham, UK. Apart from the sloppy language the style of argumentation lacks coherence as well as substance.
    In my view, both authors did a terrific job in shooting themselves in the foot. I really wonder why New Mandala published this short article.