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  1. rod says:

    You are a Red sympathizer Arthurson period. I don’t know whether or not you appreciate what that implies. But it would truly take a big big leap of faith to take you Arthurson, a Red sympathizer, at your say so; and that you indeed “do have several more sources of information” and not merely spreading the usual malicious of Red fiction and Red untruths. And the Red mobs do cheer loudly when their black-shirted terror-prone enforcers let loose with murderous assault rifles attacks and M79-grenade launches indiscriminately but with malice aforethought.

    Vindictiveness and hatred seem to be typical inspiration to Thaksin and his murderous vicious enforcers. What is there for the CP to be vindictive of?

  2. Roger says:

    we are brother and sister.if the Burman kill ethnic groups, it’s like they kill their self. so, pretty complicate history..no one help us because we kill our own blood. Even wester people, they just turn their ears as far as they can… Sometimes, they will smile or laughing looking for burmese fighting each other……

  3. Marhaen says:

    Our friend Dr Cohen, at it yet again. Along with utterly incomprehensible references to a “mistakenly overlooked” “unmistakable absence” and a “strongly ideological past”, his sloppy analogies linking Malaysian and Indonesian developments and shameless innuendo about Indonesian authoritarianism make one wonder why he bothers.

  4. bert williams says:

    His name was Dave Everett. Ex aus
    sas soldier.

  5. Arthurson says:

    Rod,

    I am really not creating “fiction” here. I really do have several more sources of information about the linkages between and the personality characteristics of the two important men mentioned above, but I am not at liberty to disclose anything because my sources are all Thai citizens and would be at great jeopardy under Article 112 if I did so.

    In my own words, I think it would be fair to say that the adjective “vindictive” could be applied to both of them. (And if either of them are listening, I mean that “in a good way”.–“lor len”)

    Furthermore, I am really trying to ignore your comment that I should be cleaning “my M-79 grenade launcher”. C’mon, really? I’ll try to treat you with more respect despite your obvious sympathy for a movement that I think is dangerously thuggish and anti-democratic at its core. But to put me into the same category as violent terrorists is uncalled for.

  6. Greg Lopez says:

    Bersih2014 sounds like a great initiative. It would be interesting to know if the name was inspired by Malaysia’s Bersih movement.

    http://www.newmandala.org/?s=bersih

  7. M Kholis Hamdy says:

    There has been a very small number of activists plunged into the system by entering political party. Engaging in direct political sphere is not impossible as it is evidently proven. Based on a small talk I made with one of activists who is currently serving as a member of parliament, most of them argued that they feel marginalized and there is an urgency for activists to further involve into the system. This importantly needs to strengthen people centered advocacy and policies. On the other hand, a significant increase of business individuals made strong political stance in terms of preserving their economic interest by soaking into political party either as functionaries of the party or run for the election. However, there is a similar effort shown by Non Government Organizations which involved in gaining support for women activists which I may recall it was started in 2004 as well and due to “go politic” call. In any case, this promising effort to bridge between political and civil society remains positive contribution in the dynamic of political struggle and the more activists get involved into politic, there may be a significant chance to ameliorate democracy practices in Indonesia.

  8. Peter Cohen says:

    The unmistakable absence, in this commentary, of any reference to the role of Islam vis-a-vis reformation (and corruption) is either intentional or mistakenly overlooked. The dichotomy between civil society and Islamic practices cannot be ignored. Indonesians and foreigners, should not be so sanguine, that Indonesia won’t ever emulate Malaysia, where racist Malay organisations, supported by the government, continue to persecute opposition politicians, and even the slightest hint of dissidence, is labeled ‘heresy’, as we now see four prominent Malaysians in jail with no basis whatsoever, with a ‘fortuitous’ plane disappearance mystery as a convenient smokescreen, irrespective of the Malaysian aviation authorities mangling the investigation beyond recognition. Given the already tense atmosphere towards Muslim minority sects (Shi’a and Ahmadiyah Muslims), as well as many non-Muslims, in Indonesia, a sanguine view that Indonesia would, and could, never revisit its authoritarian and strongly ideological past, is unwarranted, as is any a priori assumption that Islam will remain of moderate form and practice throughout the nation. Physical assaults of other adherents of Muslim sects, and the continued popularity of Jema’ah Islamiyah in many Javanese Pesantrens, strongly suggests otherwise. For all the talk of ‘new’ political movements, ‘old’ Islam very much remains an ubiquitous movement in Indonesia.

  9. rod says:

    ” … mostly speculation …”, Arthurson concedes. Yes definitely fiction Arthurson, all your theories about ‘the affection between Thaksin and the CP’. If your authoritative source is that Andrew MacGregor Marshall, well let us invite him in, and let him educate us both about your or Marshall’s story that: one of the first acts of The CP, when he is crowned to be the head of state, will be to grant ‘a royal amnesty to Thaksin’.

    And then of course, according to Arthurson, after the royal amnesty will follow the Thaksin VENGEANCE!

    If this Thaksin-Crown Prince story will be retold at the planned 500,000 at least Red Shirt gathering at Phutamonthon site, (near the Crown Prince’s palace at that area too!), then that should be really be one hell of a party!

    Don’t forget to clean your M79-grenade launcher Arthurson … a reminder.

  10. Arthurson says:

    Rod,
    Please do not presume that I am making any kind of an original argument about Thaksin and the Crown Prince. I am merely repeating what I have heard or read here and elsewhere (for instance, in Andrew Marshall’s “Thai Story”). I have read that the CP’s rise in popularity (among predominantly non-Bangkok UDD supporters) has been tied to the idea that he would grant amnesty to Thaksin once he became head of state. I do not know whether that is true, or whether there is any truth in that rumor. I have also read that Thaksin has paid some large debts owed by the CP, and there may be some consideration for past favors rendered. Again, mostly speculation.

    Perhaps you could come visit me this weekend and ask the UDD leadership directly about what they think the relationship between the two of them is? I understand that my neighborhood of Thawi Wattana and Phutthamonton has been selected for the Red Shirts rally site, between Sai 3 and Sai 4, for April 5-7. Jatuporn himself (along with Chalerm) have asked for 500,000 supporters to come, so it should make for an interesting weekend!

  11. neptunian says:

    do not care if Yingluck is “fluent” in English, as long as she is fluent in Thai!

  12. James Bean says:

    Excellent post! My favourite line is, “One wonders how these non-existent voters will cast their ballots, especially in the highlands”!

  13. Peter Cohen says:

    Of course he isn’t that smart, it’s just that his supporters are even less smart.

  14. Peter Cohen says:

    Jokowi is not “Obama-esque” as even Obama is not “Obama-esque”…Jokowi is merely Kafkaesque.

  15. ade says:

    Yeah…sure
    Jokowi is the Great…
    Jokowi is the Lord…

  16. bayu says:

    Jokowi isn’t that smart, he just can take advantage from the momentum of his popularity in mass media

  17. Maserik says:

    Yap, that’s Jokowi. The opposite of indonesian “normal” politician. He is smart for sure. Slowly but sure, he will play his card.

  18. bang afa says:

    Don’t tell the truth about Jokowi

  19. Yacinta Kurniasih says:

    Is the article ‘written’ by Prabowo?

  20. Sattahibo says:

    That Ekanat (not Akanat)acts as the speaker of the political movement is the division of responsibility. Actually, Khun Suthep has ability to use English but Khun Ekanat can do better.