Mr. Pepinsky has rightly noted the correlation between Malay percentage population and BN’s performance, and that BN did win very many more seats with fewer votes. He also correctly pointed out that gerrymandering by enabling fewer Malays to return a BN candidate means absence of popular vote need not be reason enough to lose the elections.
More than just that, for two decades, the BN government has created disjointed “Federal territories,” FT, where there are Members of Parliament, MP’s, but no elected “State” representatives. So in 2008 while 10 out of the 11 FT Kuala Lumpur MP’s were from PR, the BN central government appointed an unelected Raja Nong Chik, RNC, as FT Minister, completely not answerable to elected MP’s, completely disregarding the wishes of the electorate. It is this RNC, and the appointed City Council, not the MP’s or the “FT State” which is given funds to run Kuala Lumpur. RNC was free to use Government money to advance his popularity in Lembah Pantai against incumbent Nurul. It is a shame that RNC accepted the Ministerial position and it will be a travesty if BN appoints him again to snub his nose at the 9 PR MP’s in the FT now.I thin a lot of people agree that it is by God’s grace that Nurul won.
Somehow BN does not seem able to wake up to the wishes of the electorate. What now? Create more FT’s? Appoint more mayors not elected by the people? Or are they going to learn that letting the people vote in City Councils and other local councils will quell non-Malay revolt against the high-handed powers-that-be so that some may come back to the BN and vote their Chinese candidates in the Malaysian Chinese Association, MCA and Gerakan. That way, the MCA President may have less to sulk about and the BN, some credibility of being multi-racial.
Please L.P. Selvam sir, our PM is already a joke. Don’t embarrass our country further.
To all Non-Malaysians reading this: trust me, majority of Malaysians are a lot smarter than the idiot PM we have. He totally does NOT represent our country at all.
You racist ungrateful one… Stop blaming the chinese on every cause alright.. I just think your being immature on things happening around.. Naive.. Pathetic..
Hi Malaysia First.
As all votes are treated as confidential, how do you come up with that stats??
You are making assumptions that all Malay Muslim will vote for PAS. That’s wrong. It’s as wrong as the comment to claim the decline of BN support due to Chinese Tsunami. I can spin those numbers as well too, not that I am correct in making those assumptions.
All the Chinese (38%/24,338) voted for PAS. Indians swing their votes to BN (15%). Hence only 24% or 15,403 of the Malays voted for PAS.
Or how about this one… All the Chinese (38%/24,338) voted for PAS. Indians continued their support for PR with their 15% votes. PAS lost their Islamic mandate when only 9% out of 46% of the Malays voted for their candidate.
I’m not trying to create racist remarks here. It’s just that you should not crunch numbers as if you know who the 64,180 voters voted for who.
One is reminded of the difference between vote shares and seat claims in the 2007 Thai elections, and the preceeding discussion about the introduction of a mixed member proportional election system.
Look at the Parliamentary seats
BN 133 versus PR 89
Note: BN won 47 out of 56 available Parliamentary seats in East Msia. If u take away East Msia fr the picture, here is what meets your eyes:
BN 86 versus PR 80
The margin is narrowing extremely well, and this is not a teeny-weeny wimpy feat. However the “Great Wall of Msia” is what PR shld be focussing on — East Msia.
It is actually East Msia which has for so long secured for BN as the longest serving ruling party in the world and this has caused BN to be arrogant, apartheid, deaf, blind, oppressive, corrupted, despotic, etc.
If what neptunian said is true then more states in Peninsular Malaysia would come under PR Administration, assuming no fraud of any kind is committed. One should think in terms of working for the people when elected and not ruling the people as BN always states. Yang Berusaha and Yang Berhormat is two different thing. If a party win by fraud then how can they be referred to as Yang Berhormat (HON.). By the same argument if you do not respect the so called people representative who cheated the people, does it makes the govt nothing more than tyrant?
since Malaysia practises first past the post system since they inherited the british form of governance, i doubt the ruling politicians even understand the concept of popular votes
This is not a real representation of the situtation. The night saw magic votes that appeared out of nowhere to reinforce area where BN lost. The SPR under the control of the BN delay the announcement of winners and waited for reinforcement votes to come in escorted by police. There has not been power outages for a long time and yesterday there were outages and everytime the power came by there are more votes for BN that were not counted. The banglas brought in may not be to vote but to redo the votes as they were in the polling stations that were shut down, some earlier than the official time. During the time that they were inside, there were police guarding outside the stations. Reports of votes discarded have been lodged and votes that comes out of the ballot boxes is more than what was recorded in the boxes. How can this be true? The international community must know this as there is no such thing as garnering the popular votes and losing more seats. What nonsense is he talking about? There is widespread evidence of votes buying and by the way the BN spend for the election, they are clearly spending beyond the amount allowed by the Election Commission. Democracy is dead in Malaysia!
Thanks for an excellent analysis. It will truly be interesting to follow the developments of social media in Malaysia. If it continues to spread at this rate, I reckon it as a key arena for a potential GE17. Under the preconditions that BN fails to curtail and invoke desired sensorship policies…
This is not a “Chinese Tsunami” but an “Awaken Malaysian Tsunami”. Let me back what I said with hard statistics:
I voted in a Selangor state constituency, Seri Serdang (N29) where the majority of the voters are Malays (46%), Chinese (38%) and Indians (15%). The winner is a women candidate from the Islamic Party (PAS). She obtained 39,737 or 62% out of the 64,180 votes casted on Election Day. As the total number of Malays Muslim voters comprise only 46% of the total voters in that seat, the balance of 16% or 11,640 votes came from the non-Muslim Chinese and Indians.
So, what we are seeing on 5 May 2013 are cross voting by voters for candidates of different faith. Gone were the days when non-Muslim voters hesitate or afraid to vote for a Muslim candidate and vice versa. Malaysian have progressed but not UMNO, MCA and MIC which are based on race and religion.
This is a great development in Malaysia and the BN especially UMNO is very worried as they cannot rely solely on communal politics to win votes anymore of which they had been practicing for the last 57 years.
chinese tsunami? r you u a parrot? this is urbanites tsunami who are very concern about quality of livinghood and high cost of living. nothing to do with race! Let Najib do what he wants to do to modernise Malaysis since he promise to do so in his manifesto.
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A first pass at the GE13 results
Mr. Pepinsky has rightly noted the correlation between Malay percentage population and BN’s performance, and that BN did win very many more seats with fewer votes. He also correctly pointed out that gerrymandering by enabling fewer Malays to return a BN candidate means absence of popular vote need not be reason enough to lose the elections.
More than just that, for two decades, the BN government has created disjointed “Federal territories,” FT, where there are Members of Parliament, MP’s, but no elected “State” representatives. So in 2008 while 10 out of the 11 FT Kuala Lumpur MP’s were from PR, the BN central government appointed an unelected Raja Nong Chik, RNC, as FT Minister, completely not answerable to elected MP’s, completely disregarding the wishes of the electorate. It is this RNC, and the appointed City Council, not the MP’s or the “FT State” which is given funds to run Kuala Lumpur. RNC was free to use Government money to advance his popularity in Lembah Pantai against incumbent Nurul. It is a shame that RNC accepted the Ministerial position and it will be a travesty if BN appoints him again to snub his nose at the 9 PR MP’s in the FT now.I thin a lot of people agree that it is by God’s grace that Nurul won.
Somehow BN does not seem able to wake up to the wishes of the electorate. What now? Create more FT’s? Appoint more mayors not elected by the people? Or are they going to learn that letting the people vote in City Councils and other local councils will quell non-Malay revolt against the high-handed powers-that-be so that some may come back to the BN and vote their Chinese candidates in the Malaysian Chinese Association, MCA and Gerakan. That way, the MCA President may have less to sulk about and the BN, some credibility of being multi-racial.
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
if not ge13 we will win ge14.i accept that we have lost.BN will not deny us in 2018.
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
Please L.P. Selvam sir, our PM is already a joke. Don’t embarrass our country further.
To all Non-Malaysians reading this: trust me, majority of Malaysians are a lot smarter than the idiot PM we have. He totally does NOT represent our country at all.
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
Haha, open your eyes. Chinese account for only 20% of the population.
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
You racist ungrateful one… Stop blaming the chinese on every cause alright.. I just think your being immature on things happening around.. Naive.. Pathetic..
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
Hi Malaysia First.
As all votes are treated as confidential, how do you come up with that stats??
You are making assumptions that all Malay Muslim will vote for PAS. That’s wrong. It’s as wrong as the comment to claim the decline of BN support due to Chinese Tsunami. I can spin those numbers as well too, not that I am correct in making those assumptions.
All the Chinese (38%/24,338) voted for PAS. Indians swing their votes to BN (15%). Hence only 24% or 15,403 of the Malays voted for PAS.
Or how about this one… All the Chinese (38%/24,338) voted for PAS. Indians continued their support for PR with their 15% votes. PAS lost their Islamic mandate when only 9% out of 46% of the Malays voted for their candidate.
I’m not trying to create racist remarks here. It’s just that you should not crunch numbers as if you know who the 64,180 voters voted for who.
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
dude. get your facts right before you comment. 🙂
A first pass at the GE13 results
One is reminded of the difference between vote shares and seat claims in the 2007 Thai elections, and the preceeding discussion about the introduction of a mixed member proportional election system.
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
Are you sure it’s the people choice? Total popular votes: PR – 50.1% , BN – 46.6% . Think before you comment.
Barisan National back in 2013: Expert
so happy bsn win from asfandiar pakistan
cougrujulation
Pakatan will not win
Look at the Parliamentary seats
BN 133 versus PR 89
Note: BN won 47 out of 56 available Parliamentary seats in East Msia. If u take away East Msia fr the picture, here is what meets your eyes:
BN 86 versus PR 80
The margin is narrowing extremely well, and this is not a teeny-weeny wimpy feat. However the “Great Wall of Msia” is what PR shld be focussing on — East Msia.
It is actually East Msia which has for so long secured for BN as the longest serving ruling party in the world and this has caused BN to be arrogant, apartheid, deaf, blind, oppressive, corrupted, despotic, etc.
This is the true crux of the issue.
Colonialism and ethnic conflict in Burma
You don’t understand things from someone else from looking and telling from outside.
A first pass at the GE13 results
If what neptunian said is true then more states in Peninsular Malaysia would come under PR Administration, assuming no fraud of any kind is committed. One should think in terms of working for the people when elected and not ruling the people as BN always states. Yang Berusaha and Yang Berhormat is two different thing. If a party win by fraud then how can they be referred to as Yang Berhormat (HON.). By the same argument if you do not respect the so called people representative who cheated the people, does it makes the govt nothing more than tyrant?
Analysing Malaysia’s GE13
since Malaysia practises first past the post system since they inherited the british form of governance, i doubt the ruling politicians even understand the concept of popular votes
Analysing Malaysia’s GE13
This is not a real representation of the situtation. The night saw magic votes that appeared out of nowhere to reinforce area where BN lost. The SPR under the control of the BN delay the announcement of winners and waited for reinforcement votes to come in escorted by police. There has not been power outages for a long time and yesterday there were outages and everytime the power came by there are more votes for BN that were not counted. The banglas brought in may not be to vote but to redo the votes as they were in the polling stations that were shut down, some earlier than the official time. During the time that they were inside, there were police guarding outside the stations. Reports of votes discarded have been lodged and votes that comes out of the ballot boxes is more than what was recorded in the boxes. How can this be true? The international community must know this as there is no such thing as garnering the popular votes and losing more seats. What nonsense is he talking about? There is widespread evidence of votes buying and by the way the BN spend for the election, they are clearly spending beyond the amount allowed by the Election Commission. Democracy is dead in Malaysia!
Malaysia’s election: An Indonesian comparison
Thanks for an excellent analysis. It will truly be interesting to follow the developments of social media in Malaysia. If it continues to spread at this rate, I reckon it as a key arena for a potential GE17. Under the preconditions that BN fails to curtail and invoke desired sensorship policies…
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
Is it necessary Najib to step down? Its a simple majority or two third majority winning is winning! Thats peoples choice.
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
Selvam,
This is not a “Chinese Tsunami” but an “Awaken Malaysian Tsunami”. Let me back what I said with hard statistics:
I voted in a Selangor state constituency, Seri Serdang (N29) where the majority of the voters are Malays (46%), Chinese (38%) and Indians (15%). The winner is a women candidate from the Islamic Party (PAS). She obtained 39,737 or 62% out of the 64,180 votes casted on Election Day. As the total number of Malays Muslim voters comprise only 46% of the total voters in that seat, the balance of 16% or 11,640 votes came from the non-Muslim Chinese and Indians.
So, what we are seeing on 5 May 2013 are cross voting by voters for candidates of different faith. Gone were the days when non-Muslim voters hesitate or afraid to vote for a Muslim candidate and vice versa. Malaysian have progressed but not UMNO, MCA and MIC which are based on race and religion.
This is a great development in Malaysia and the BN especially UMNO is very worried as they cannot rely solely on communal politics to win votes anymore of which they had been practicing for the last 57 years.
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
chinese tsunami? r you u a parrot? this is urbanites tsunami who are very concern about quality of livinghood and high cost of living. nothing to do with race! Let Najib do what he wants to do to modernise Malaysis since he promise to do so in his manifesto.
Malaysian PM should resign, says expert
gosh, you’re still living in the cave..Selvam..