I am a bit surprised over Kasit. Wasn’t he invo0lved in international terrorist acts? I read from the media that he was one of the main organizers taking hostages at the int. airport. Perhaps he can be tried by a court in germany as well or send to The Hague? Would be nice!
While I am enjoying this fun like the rest and happy to note O is back in town to dust down the Green Buddha, I would point out that the description of Germany as civilized, as applied to this issue should not be taken too far.
While the Thai state spends lavishly on its royals the German Federal Republic is spending far more on a military adventure in Afghanistan leading to deaths of thousands.
It even makes the efforts of our Kasit, Prayuth & Co on the Cambodia border seem rather puny.
LOL. Dear Vichai, I am really too old to be ‘gushing’ over anyone like a young teenager. And seriously, if I were young again, I would rather be gushing over Sean Connery or Chow Ren Fatt. Much better looking, don’t ya think?
I agree with you Chamlong’s stint as Bangkok Governor was one of the cleanest I ever remember. I voted for him – also helped in printing and pasting election posters etc etc for Palang Dharma. I also know how much previous governors spent building overhead bridges and how much Chamlong spent. The depths of corruption is indeed shocking.
I am not certain this is even worth the effort explaining to you. Nevertheless, I shall try. To fight corruption, one has to do more than condemn it. Indeed, going around screaming “you’re corrupt” is easy. Corruption in Thailand is so deeply ingrained, sometimes one is dragged into it even when one does not want it. Take my driving license – I pass it with one try in Singapore (And Australia). Singapore’s driving test is much harder than Bangkok’s, Australia’s was easier (time-log version). After my 3rd failed written test, a fellow Thai kindly told me that I am too well-dressed and that if I want a pass, I should place a hundred baht in between my test papers. I eventually did it so as not to waste another day (I do have limited leave to take from work).
The above is the reason why I do not, and can never, take the moral high ground on this topic. I can only do what I can to combat it – and that includes understanding how it was done by various entities. By far, Democrat Party has the most efficient, time-tested, and tight corruption hierarchy (I am very impressed). Prem had one key advantage that he leveraged to the max. PAD tried to free ride on it but it backfired (maybe). Thaksin brought in several novel concepts into the arena. Etc Etc.
Indeed, I find Corruption Works a fascinating study. And most of the most corrupted practices actually took place in very classy posh environs – so I’m sorry I do not find Banharn’s or Chuan’s or Sannan’s or Snoh’s or Thaksin’s corruption any where near “gutter-style”.
It is my preference to know who did what, got what, and how they did it. It is so that I can explain to others not just why so and so is corrupted, but also what they did and how they did it. That is so much more convincing than just saying X is clean and Y is corrupt. You only have to do your maths taking the information Tarrin and I have provided to make a clear conclusion on Chuan. If you need more info – go to local libraries and check out old copies of tabloid magazines and papers not for what is written, but look at the photos. Shouts more clearly than anything a reporter might lie about.
Again, what I wrote on Chalerm is only in relation to your comment. However, if you wish to add in another incident, I shall comment on that too. Life as many has said here is very multi-faceted and multi-tiered. I had strictly condemned Chalerm’s actions in interfering with the legal process on his son’s behalf back then – what Chalerm did was wrong, and what his son did was deplorable. But at the same time, I can respect a father’s need to protect his son – even as I disapprove of his methods. At the same time, I am angry on behalf of the dead’s family that the boy got away with murder and rooted for justice on their behalf.
Seriously, just because someone did something bad doesn’t mean he never did anything good in his life. The reverse is also true. That someone did something good does not equate to that same person never doing anything bad. Yes, Chamlong was a good Bangkok governor – one of the best. Yet there was his time in the military. Banharn is corrupt, but he is also a loving husband. Chuan may be a wimpy politician, but he is also a fillial son. I have always said I highly respect Chuan’s mother for her dignity (but not her son) here and elsewhere.
And given all the names you or I bring up – it is really pointless to go into a “he also did this” or “he also did that” spiral. However, if you DO have a workable plan on how to get the old corrupt dogs out of politics (Sannan, Banharn, Newin, Thaksin, Chuan, Ahbisit, Chalerm etc etc etc) – that something worth arguing over (argue as in argument, not quarrel, please)
The question is why does everything that relates to Thailand’s research be revolved around Monarchy and Lese Majeste ? Don’t you have anything else to research ? Perhaps environment, education for provincial people or Australian expat criminals ?
[…] In contrast to his politically inexperienced adversary, Abhisit never looked comfortable mingling with the masses – and when he did he was heckled by angry red shirts in what may or may not have been an orchestrated campaign. The Democrats seemed to pin their hopes on a televised debate between the two leading candidates. Oxford-educated Abhisit would surely have run rings around his political novice opponent. So Pheu Thai wisely stuck two fingers up at the debate. Meanwhile, the Democrats’ drab billboards – which weren’t replaced with anything effective until a week before the election – can’t have done the party any favours. Pheu Thai’s portraits of Yingluck, at once striking and understated, cleverly downplayed her good looks in favour of gravitas (see Chris Baker’s analysis here). […]
Re: Kasit’s statement about “All of the Thai people are worried about what happened.” Yeah, I’m a Thai and I’m worried as hell. I’m worried that I may have to foot the bill for the CMV’s new jet.
Not very many gush over Chalerm’s many ‘capabilities’, but to gush over Chalerm’s subtle rhetorics is well a new revelation to me. Was that Chalerm the subtle when he worked his extortionate magic so his trigger-quick son(s) would not be convicted for the police sargeant killing? Maybe Nuomi would gush over that one too.
Chalerm, Samak and of course Thaksin will definitely make those self-serving accusations that there is not one Thai politician who is not corrupt.
But Chuan and Chamlong and Prem were indeed clean and honest when they held the reins of Thai premiership and/or Bangkok governorship.
And about Nuomi’s ” In truth, I was never disappointed by how he (Thaksin) did it – I am merely disappointed that he did it.” But I do understand Nuomi that you’ll always gush over how Thaksin did or does it. Nuomi you just love Thaksin’s gutter-style politics is why.
Perhaps even more so when the people undertake to inculcate one another with the same rationale and lack of logic their leaders expect them to possess.
Najib is just a puppet of Mahathir era and should resign and step down as PM, Finance minister and UMNO president to take full responsibility of the current situation. Todate, has has not solved any matter related to welfare of the country and poor people of Malaysia in terms of poverty, hardship, jo, cost and living, etc.
Najib administration is working on its own agenda There is no
co-ordination and teamwork among the cabinet. Every cabinet MP speaks on his or her own agenda and solve individual problem themselves. No discussion or agreement on the cabinet level to reach a final solution before it is implemented.
Overall, Najib has to pay a high price for what Malaysia is today…..RESIGN now or else face the consequences of being a corrupted and puppet of Mahathir era.
Force Najib to resign is the best solution to prevent civil war in Malaysia.
Once i know is that We have been invase by Chinese/ what do you think where are Lao people original from ? all these TAI group ? Since thousand of year Lao and Chinese have been living to gether/ Sometime I just believe that the world is too small and the thinking of people are too westernise
Pam @29: According to the BP, the RTAF gave the plane to CP in 2007.
No mention as to who sanctioned this, but clearly a misuse of our taxes. I
know many people who wouldn’t mind being given a plane by RTAF, but I
don’t expect them to be getting one any time soon!
I do wonder a little about the patience of the Thai public with the ongoing outrageous behavior of O. His behavior over the years is incongruent with normal behavior with his series of concubines, naked birthday parties, diplomatic blunders with Japan and China, and all the rest. It is hard to think of another country where this much out of touch behavior would be tolerated.
When does patience from the pubic become stupidity??
115.^ “Boeing 737-448 HS-HRH, Operator (Owner): Thailand – Air Force; Delivery Date: November 26, 2004, former Aer Lingus EI-BXD”. jetphotos.net. Retrieved: August 31, 2010.
116.^ “Boeing 737-4Z6 HS-CMV, Operator (Owner): Thailand – Air Force; Delivery Date: February 28, 1995.” jetphotos.net. Retrieved: August 31, 2010.
Both has the р╕Ъ.р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Юр╕▓р╕лр╕Щр╕░ ( ??Royal Mobile Company?? ) emblem on them with the initials that belongs to the ClownPrince.
Something like this could make the thai people think about a lot of questions and the authorities are probably worried that us thais might get ourselves hurt for attempting at something that is usually the role of the Thai authorities, hence, the slow pace of the press.
Which of the two was confiscated? Does every Royal family member have one or two? Why isn’t one enough? Why is it so big for a private jet? Could it be that the government was corrupt when they bought it, buying the bigger more expensive one for private р╕кр╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣М use they could like take commision kick backs? Would this be bad for the sufficient economy policy? etc…
The Thai authorities are just protecting us thais from the brutishness of foreign judicial autonomy. (sorry for bad ad hoc tranlations my english is not that good; I am thai and spent most of education in Thailand)
Funding is funding regardless, I think. It will benefit any who qualify, especially in the Arts and Social fields which normally need field work and has limited funding as compared to business and engineering fields.
Though seriously, I would not suggest trying any fieldwork on topics that may lead to LM charge. Other than that, this funding is a good thing.
@Vichai N
“For Nuomi: I do recall Peau Thai (and former policeman) Chalerm Yubamrung mocking the Democrat Party about seven months ago because the DP picked ‘penniless’ lawyers like Chuan to be their party leader . . . ”
You are right that Chalerm is mocking Chuan for being ‘penniless’. However, you TOTALLY misunderstood the context. Chalerm knew exactly how Chuan got his stash of corruption money, roughly how much, and where Chuan stash the money. He was there on the same TV show when Samak made that ‘slip of tongue’. He was mocking at Chuan’s fake ‘penniless’ image because that image was a lie. (That is one level of sophistication up from mocking at a real poor man for being penniless which is plain snobbish and discriminative) Chalerm was mocking and laughing at those who believe in that so poorly kept fake poor image. More than the ‘penniless’ image, he was mocking Chuan’s total and utter lack of capabilities (penniless – he has nothing). In short, Chalerm is insulting the DP for choosing a non-leader, a personal with no skills and no resources to be their leader.
Now, to be really constructive Thais at this point – here is what we must do. We must ask the right questions:
DP-based questions: do we agree that Chuan is actually not leader and not PM material. If yes, then we must ask why the DP want such a weak leader? Then we must ask who are the real power brokers. What are their agenda? etc etc Of course if you think Chuan is leader material – then you must ask where is his power base? Who are his supporters and for what principles do they support him on… and are there really enough supporters to make him PM? With Chuan as leader, what directions would DP take? Is ‘clean’ Chuan going to throw all the corrupted old party dogs out of the party, for example.
Wider-based questions: How does putting Chuan up benefit DP? Help them win elections? What are the socio-economic factors supporting such a choice? Are the rivals that weak or are there other external factors? If rivals are that weak, again what does that mean for future Thai political landscape and then onto what does that mean in terms of country’s development. etc etc
——-
“Don’t you Tarrin/Noumi both sense something ethically amiss with the Thaksin mantra: “Yes I am corrupt, but everybody else is corrupt, and it is o/k to be corrupt”?”
Actually, that’s not a Thaksin mantra but most if not all Thais mantra. I don’t even have to confess for being guilty of slipping a 100B here or there to avoid paying a wrong turn or parking ticket and even to speed up getting my driver’s license (I got tired of flunking the written exam even though I am certain I got the right answers).
Thaksin’s mantra is actually quite interesting. Back to the point in time just before he became PM for the first time, he was interviewed and accused of getting xx million from yy. Thaksin snapped back and strode off (yes, he snapped): Believe me, its much easier being the one giving the money than the one taking it. (unsure of exact wording). That set the tone of how his ‘corruption’ works. In truth, I was never disappointed by how he did it – I am merely disappointed that he did it. If you cannot tell the difference between the two above points, then you won’t understand the point Tarrin is making either. Cheers!
Ok, NOW, Thailand is reacting to a court directed settelement whiched invoked seizure of one of its gov’t assets in Germany. They cannot crawl out from under this with their typical corrupt and heavy handed approach…..and if they are too stupid to know (which they most assuredly are), they are in for a rough ride from the German civil system. They are dealing with the German systen IN Germany and they are sucking the hind tit on this fiasco whch is surely causing loss of their hypocritical faces, and the sobering realities outside of Thailand which they CANNOT control. Big loss for Thailand….serves them right You rip people off and the civilized western society uses proper remedies to shoveit in your face, while they keep trying to forge ahead with more cock and bull lies…! Should be so interesting to see how the Thai establishment deals with this now that they are on the global stage!!
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Plane audacity in Thai dispute
I am a bit surprised over Kasit. Wasn’t he invo0lved in international terrorist acts? I read from the media that he was one of the main organizers taking hostages at the int. airport. Perhaps he can be tried by a court in germany as well or send to The Hague? Would be nice!
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
While I am enjoying this fun like the rest and happy to note O is back in town to dust down the Green Buddha, I would point out that the description of Germany as civilized, as applied to this issue should not be taken too far.
While the Thai state spends lavishly on its royals the German Federal Republic is spending far more on a military adventure in Afghanistan leading to deaths of thousands.
It even makes the efforts of our Kasit, Prayuth & Co on the Cambodia border seem rather puny.
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
“Yeah, I’m a Thai and I’m worried as hell. I’m worried that I may have to foot the bill for the CMV’s new jet.”
Ditto!
Thailand’s corruption record
LOL. Dear Vichai, I am really too old to be ‘gushing’ over anyone like a young teenager. And seriously, if I were young again, I would rather be gushing over Sean Connery or Chow Ren Fatt. Much better looking, don’t ya think?
I agree with you Chamlong’s stint as Bangkok Governor was one of the cleanest I ever remember. I voted for him – also helped in printing and pasting election posters etc etc for Palang Dharma. I also know how much previous governors spent building overhead bridges and how much Chamlong spent. The depths of corruption is indeed shocking.
I am not certain this is even worth the effort explaining to you. Nevertheless, I shall try. To fight corruption, one has to do more than condemn it. Indeed, going around screaming “you’re corrupt” is easy. Corruption in Thailand is so deeply ingrained, sometimes one is dragged into it even when one does not want it. Take my driving license – I pass it with one try in Singapore (And Australia). Singapore’s driving test is much harder than Bangkok’s, Australia’s was easier (time-log version). After my 3rd failed written test, a fellow Thai kindly told me that I am too well-dressed and that if I want a pass, I should place a hundred baht in between my test papers. I eventually did it so as not to waste another day (I do have limited leave to take from work).
The above is the reason why I do not, and can never, take the moral high ground on this topic. I can only do what I can to combat it – and that includes understanding how it was done by various entities. By far, Democrat Party has the most efficient, time-tested, and tight corruption hierarchy (I am very impressed). Prem had one key advantage that he leveraged to the max. PAD tried to free ride on it but it backfired (maybe). Thaksin brought in several novel concepts into the arena. Etc Etc.
Indeed, I find Corruption Works a fascinating study. And most of the most corrupted practices actually took place in very classy posh environs – so I’m sorry I do not find Banharn’s or Chuan’s or Sannan’s or Snoh’s or Thaksin’s corruption any where near “gutter-style”.
It is my preference to know who did what, got what, and how they did it. It is so that I can explain to others not just why so and so is corrupted, but also what they did and how they did it. That is so much more convincing than just saying X is clean and Y is corrupt. You only have to do your maths taking the information Tarrin and I have provided to make a clear conclusion on Chuan. If you need more info – go to local libraries and check out old copies of tabloid magazines and papers not for what is written, but look at the photos. Shouts more clearly than anything a reporter might lie about.
Again, what I wrote on Chalerm is only in relation to your comment. However, if you wish to add in another incident, I shall comment on that too. Life as many has said here is very multi-faceted and multi-tiered. I had strictly condemned Chalerm’s actions in interfering with the legal process on his son’s behalf back then – what Chalerm did was wrong, and what his son did was deplorable. But at the same time, I can respect a father’s need to protect his son – even as I disapprove of his methods. At the same time, I am angry on behalf of the dead’s family that the boy got away with murder and rooted for justice on their behalf.
Seriously, just because someone did something bad doesn’t mean he never did anything good in his life. The reverse is also true. That someone did something good does not equate to that same person never doing anything bad. Yes, Chamlong was a good Bangkok governor – one of the best. Yet there was his time in the military. Banharn is corrupt, but he is also a loving husband. Chuan may be a wimpy politician, but he is also a fillial son. I have always said I highly respect Chuan’s mother for her dignity (but not her son) here and elsewhere.
And given all the names you or I bring up – it is really pointless to go into a “he also did this” or “he also did that” spiral. However, if you DO have a workable plan on how to get the old corrupt dogs out of politics (Sannan, Banharn, Newin, Thaksin, Chuan, Ahbisit, Chalerm etc etc etc) – that something worth arguing over (argue as in argument, not quarrel, please)
Thai research grants for Aussies
The question is why does everything that relates to Thailand’s research be revolved around Monarchy and Lese Majeste ? Don’t you have anything else to research ? Perhaps environment, education for provincial people or Australian expat criminals ?
Yingluck on the streets
[…] In contrast to his politically inexperienced adversary, Abhisit never looked comfortable mingling with the masses – and when he did he was heckled by angry red shirts in what may or may not have been an orchestrated campaign. The Democrats seemed to pin their hopes on a televised debate between the two leading candidates. Oxford-educated Abhisit would surely have run rings around his political novice opponent. So Pheu Thai wisely stuck two fingers up at the debate. Meanwhile, the Democrats’ drab billboards – which weren’t replaced with anything effective until a week before the election – can’t have done the party any favours. Pheu Thai’s portraits of Yingluck, at once striking and understated, cleverly downplayed her good looks in favour of gravitas (see Chris Baker’s analysis here). […]
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Re: Kasit’s statement about “All of the Thai people are worried about what happened.” Yeah, I’m a Thai and I’m worried as hell. I’m worried that I may have to foot the bill for the CMV’s new jet.
Thailand’s corruption record
Not very many gush over Chalerm’s many ‘capabilities’, but to gush over Chalerm’s subtle rhetorics is well a new revelation to me. Was that Chalerm the subtle when he worked his extortionate magic so his trigger-quick son(s) would not be convicted for the police sargeant killing? Maybe Nuomi would gush over that one too.
Chalerm, Samak and of course Thaksin will definitely make those self-serving accusations that there is not one Thai politician who is not corrupt.
But Chuan and Chamlong and Prem were indeed clean and honest when they held the reins of Thai premiership and/or Bangkok governorship.
And about Nuomi’s ” In truth, I was never disappointed by how he (Thaksin) did it – I am merely disappointed that he did it.” But I do understand Nuomi that you’ll always gush over how Thaksin did or does it. Nuomi you just love Thaksin’s gutter-style politics is why.
Speculation on Thailand’s succession
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/huff-wires/20110715/eu-germany-thailand-royal-plane/
The last paragraph re. not having an opportunity caught my attention…
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Perhaps even more so when the people undertake to inculcate one another with the same rationale and lack of logic their leaders expect them to possess.
Will Najib last a term?
Najib is just a puppet of Mahathir era and should resign and step down as PM, Finance minister and UMNO president to take full responsibility of the current situation. Todate, has has not solved any matter related to welfare of the country and poor people of Malaysia in terms of poverty, hardship, jo, cost and living, etc.
Najib administration is working on its own agenda There is no
co-ordination and teamwork among the cabinet. Every cabinet MP speaks on his or her own agenda and solve individual problem themselves. No discussion or agreement on the cabinet level to reach a final solution before it is implemented.
Overall, Najib has to pay a high price for what Malaysia is today…..RESIGN now or else face the consequences of being a corrupted and puppet of Mahathir era.
Force Najib to resign is the best solution to prevent civil war in Malaysia.
Unlocking Laos
Once i know is that We have been invase by Chinese/ what do you think where are Lao people original from ? all these TAI group ? Since thousand of year Lao and Chinese have been living to gether/ Sometime I just believe that the world is too small and the thinking of people are too westernise
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Pam @29: According to the BP, the RTAF gave the plane to CP in 2007.
No mention as to who sanctioned this, but clearly a misuse of our taxes. I
know many people who wouldn’t mind being given a plane by RTAF, but I
don’t expect them to be getting one any time soon!
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Ynot 43
Q: “When does patience from the public become stupidity??”
A: When it’s inculcated and sponsored by the state (Like most nations…)
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
I do wonder a little about the patience of the Thai public with the ongoing outrageous behavior of O. His behavior over the years is incongruent with normal behavior with his series of concubines, naked birthday parties, diplomatic blunders with Japan and China, and all the rest. It is hard to think of another country where this much out of touch behavior would be tolerated.
When does patience from the pubic become stupidity??
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
The ClownPrince has two 737:
115.^ “Boeing 737-448 HS-HRH, Operator (Owner): Thailand – Air Force; Delivery Date: November 26, 2004, former Aer Lingus EI-BXD”. jetphotos.net. Retrieved: August 31, 2010.
116.^ “Boeing 737-4Z6 HS-CMV, Operator (Owner): Thailand – Air Force; Delivery Date: February 28, 1995.” jetphotos.net. Retrieved: August 31, 2010.
Both has the р╕Ъ.р╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕гр╕▓р╕Кр╕Юр╕▓р╕лр╕Щр╕░ ( ??Royal Mobile Company?? ) emblem on them with the initials that belongs to the ClownPrince.
Something like this could make the thai people think about a lot of questions and the authorities are probably worried that us thais might get ourselves hurt for attempting at something that is usually the role of the Thai authorities, hence, the slow pace of the press.
Which of the two was confiscated? Does every Royal family member have one or two? Why isn’t one enough? Why is it so big for a private jet? Could it be that the government was corrupt when they bought it, buying the bigger more expensive one for private р╕кр╕зр╕Щр╕Юр╕гр╕░р╕нр╕Зр╕Др╣М use they could like take commision kick backs? Would this be bad for the sufficient economy policy? etc…
The Thai authorities are just protecting us thais from the brutishness of foreign judicial autonomy. (sorry for bad ad hoc tranlations my english is not that good; I am thai and spent most of education in Thailand)
Thai research grants for Aussies
Funding is funding regardless, I think. It will benefit any who qualify, especially in the Arts and Social fields which normally need field work and has limited funding as compared to business and engineering fields.
Though seriously, I would not suggest trying any fieldwork on topics that may lead to LM charge. Other than that, this funding is a good thing.
Thailand’s corruption record
@Vichai N
“For Nuomi: I do recall Peau Thai (and former policeman) Chalerm Yubamrung mocking the Democrat Party about seven months ago because the DP picked ‘penniless’ lawyers like Chuan to be their party leader . . . ”
You are right that Chalerm is mocking Chuan for being ‘penniless’. However, you TOTALLY misunderstood the context. Chalerm knew exactly how Chuan got his stash of corruption money, roughly how much, and where Chuan stash the money. He was there on the same TV show when Samak made that ‘slip of tongue’. He was mocking at Chuan’s fake ‘penniless’ image because that image was a lie. (That is one level of sophistication up from mocking at a real poor man for being penniless which is plain snobbish and discriminative) Chalerm was mocking and laughing at those who believe in that so poorly kept fake poor image. More than the ‘penniless’ image, he was mocking Chuan’s total and utter lack of capabilities (penniless – he has nothing). In short, Chalerm is insulting the DP for choosing a non-leader, a personal with no skills and no resources to be their leader.
Now, to be really constructive Thais at this point – here is what we must do. We must ask the right questions:
DP-based questions: do we agree that Chuan is actually not leader and not PM material. If yes, then we must ask why the DP want such a weak leader? Then we must ask who are the real power brokers. What are their agenda? etc etc Of course if you think Chuan is leader material – then you must ask where is his power base? Who are his supporters and for what principles do they support him on… and are there really enough supporters to make him PM? With Chuan as leader, what directions would DP take? Is ‘clean’ Chuan going to throw all the corrupted old party dogs out of the party, for example.
Wider-based questions: How does putting Chuan up benefit DP? Help them win elections? What are the socio-economic factors supporting such a choice? Are the rivals that weak or are there other external factors? If rivals are that weak, again what does that mean for future Thai political landscape and then onto what does that mean in terms of country’s development. etc etc
——-
“Don’t you Tarrin/Noumi both sense something ethically amiss with the Thaksin mantra: “Yes I am corrupt, but everybody else is corrupt, and it is o/k to be corrupt”?”
Actually, that’s not a Thaksin mantra but most if not all Thais mantra. I don’t even have to confess for being guilty of slipping a 100B here or there to avoid paying a wrong turn or parking ticket and even to speed up getting my driver’s license (I got tired of flunking the written exam even though I am certain I got the right answers).
Thaksin’s mantra is actually quite interesting. Back to the point in time just before he became PM for the first time, he was interviewed and accused of getting xx million from yy. Thaksin snapped back and strode off (yes, he snapped): Believe me, its much easier being the one giving the money than the one taking it. (unsure of exact wording). That set the tone of how his ‘corruption’ works. In truth, I was never disappointed by how he did it – I am merely disappointed that he did it. If you cannot tell the difference between the two above points, then you won’t understand the point Tarrin is making either. Cheers!
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Would a good Buddhist lie?
Sort of tells the scope of ability to tell a tale and constantly get away with it.
Plane audacity in Thai dispute
Ok, NOW, Thailand is reacting to a court directed settelement whiched invoked seizure of one of its gov’t assets in Germany. They cannot crawl out from under this with their typical corrupt and heavy handed approach…..and if they are too stupid to know (which they most assuredly are), they are in for a rough ride from the German civil system. They are dealing with the German systen IN Germany and they are sucking the hind tit on this fiasco whch is surely causing loss of their hypocritical faces, and the sobering realities outside of Thailand which they CANNOT control. Big loss for Thailand….serves them right You rip people off and the civilized western society uses proper remedies to shoveit in your face, while they keep trying to forge ahead with more cock and bull lies…! Should be so interesting to see how the Thai establishment deals with this now that they are on the global stage!!