Shouldn’t people from “Myanmar” be called “Myanmarese” (or “Myanmartians”)? Would that include all 135 different “ethnic enzymes”? Of course not counting the wretched Rohingyas!
Choice of word is part of freedom. But that freedom has limit to be democratic.
Myanmar is officially known at the UN as ‘Myanmar’. The names ‘Burma’ and ‘Burmese’ are unrepresentative of the country and the people. Myanmar is a multi-ethnic state and ‘Bamar’ represents just one ethnic among others.
There are three things to consider here: opportunity, willingness and prepareness.
Every citizen abroad has been given equal opportunity to cast vote. Although some are willing to vote for the election, there are obstacles, such as, getting approval from the foreign employers, costs associated with traveling and concerns for deduction of wage. This is just naming a few. These obstacles may hamper prepareness. It is also to do with interest in politics.
Can we still label it window dressing?
Slaves! What a shame! Some scholars are still using obsolete term like ‘slaves’ echoing the voice of irresponsible usages.
There are only minds and matters on earth. All living things transformed into its intrinsic forms of organic and inorganic nature when they die. Live and death is a recursive process automating itself as long as the world as the substrate exists.
The Americans, the British people, the Israeli people, the Russians, the Japanese people, the Indians or the Chinese are just temporary projection of the earth. Who knows which form of matters an American or a Russian will take in their next projections? Just similar to different groups of enzymes develop over different substrate areas at different ambient conditions. Being a Myanmar is not to be ashamed of nor proud of.
Hazing is the abuse of lower members of a social hierarchy by higher ones. In small-time hierarchies it usually involves ceremonial that outsiders regard as silly, and wonder why the underlings put up with it. In Thailand the foolish rituals of monarchy are forced on the population with guns. In Canada they are ignored by most people, with only a few snobs taking any notice. Canada is a de jure dominion and a de facto republic.
Emjay greatly exaggerates the superiority of Canada over the US, when in fact two more similar countries would be very hard to find. People usually do that kind of thing out of small-town vanity and don’t even expect to be taken seriously.
This article is both interesting and informative, but I believe that the economic problems are the symptoms of a much deeper malaise (pun intended).The Ringgit is now worth about S$ 30sen, and the reasons are quite clear. Both Singapore and Malaysia have a similar racial mix, but in Singapore government is transparent, and promotion is based on merit. Malaysia’s cronyism and Apartheid policies prevent the best and brightest from attaining high office. The country is mismanaged at almost every level.
Land Transport is just one example, were freight costs are several times those of neighbouring Thailand, despite cheaper fuel. Road Tax is very high, and on top there are the excessive Highway Tolls (doubling costs!), and these are about to be increased further…totally unjustified, but PLUS is a “crony company”.
The Immigration Dept has become notoriously corrupt in the last few years; they are predatory, and extort money (sometimes large amounts) at every opportunity. What foreigner would invest money here after this type of abuse?
After 20 years in Thailand I thought that I could live with corruption, but after doing business here for one year, I am shocked and appalled. Coming here was a big mistake.
You really want to suggest that hazing is a deeply meaningful aberration in Thai culture and that it flows from the monarchy on down?
Like all “republican” fanboys you like to suggest, along with angry, resentful rich kids like Rose, that monarchy is itself the problem.
As a Canadian I am here to tell you that the Dominion of Canada is a far more successful liberal democracy than any republic on the face of the earth.
Our Constitution with the embedded Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a model for liberal democracies everywhere, unlike the tawdry confused document that has inevitably led to a gridlocked plutocracy just to the south of the the True North strong and free. (Of course, if the Harper administration, modeled as it is on the Republican party of the great republic, has its way that will not be the case for much longer.)
Up until 25-30 years ago, hazing was a major problem in both the US and Canada.
People were not only humiliated and battered but occasionally killed.
If you were to check with Google you would find that hazing has not disappeared from those countries.
I wonder how you would explain that in your diagnostic idiom.
Hierarchy and bullying and their embodiment in ritual are not unique to Thailand and the fact that they have been given a Thai patina does not change that fact.
I think hazing in Thailand, like cheerleading*, is an import from America, a racist, violent, hierarchical society that has embedded inequality in its national myth by calling it freedom.
Republic? Don’t make me laugh.
*I highly recommend Cheer Ambassadors btw. A fine insight into Thai-US cultural exchange.
Agree that there should be more focus on these overseas Burmese. To say “overseas” seems to apply to those who would fall under the expat category more than the migrant category. Is it a bold statement to say that, perhaps, there are class issues involved in this distinction?
Add to this an additional 150 thousand or so refugees. My own estimates are much closer to 3 million. Whatever the number, obviously 99 percent of these Burmese fall into some type of migrant and/or refugee category and not the expat/overseas category.
But let’s low-ball the figure at 2 million Burmese in Thailand for the sake of argument. That’s more than the population of Kachin State (1.7m); or more than Kayah State (286k); or more than Karen State (1.6m); or more than Chin State (478k); or more than Tanintharyi Div (1.4m); or more than Naypyidaw (1.2m). Essentially, what this tells us is that the entire Kingdom of Thailand is more important than these divisions and states in terms of raw-numbers of potential voters who will end of being ignored. http://countryoffice.unfpa.org/myanmar/drive/SummmaryoftheProvisionalResults.pdf
Now, it would be one thing if these Burmese could vote in Thailand for Thai elections, but, alas, the Burmese are probably the last people on earth that the Thais would want to give some type of permanent citizenship to and, lest we forget, Thailand is a dictatorship.
In this sense, I suppose it’s nice to take a picture of oneself in front of an embassy at some “overseas” locale. Wow, look, democracy, yay! Now let’s go get this ink off our hands. But the truth is that unless the over 2 million Burmese migrant laborers and refugees (and slaves? remember that Guardian report on CP and shrimping….jeez)–unless this population gets to vote, the 30 thousand or so Burmese expats across the globe is nothing more than window dressing.
There are probably about 2 million migrant workers and refugees from Burma in Thailand and only about 300 are allowed to vote? What a farce! By the way, who picked those 300? Is there any discrimination about who is allowed to vote? Most Burmese who are studying in Australia probably belong to the privileged class. Democracy should not be based upon your wealth, your education, your job (skilled workers lol) your religion or even your skin colour!
[…] This article is extracted from two papers presented at the Myanmar Burma Update in Canberra, Australia (June 2015) and the International Conference on Burma Myanmar Studies in Chiang Mai, Thailand (July 2015), and has been cross-posted with New Mandala. […]
Since Tun Hussein Onn, none of Malaysia’s prime ministers have been clean. That Prime Minister Najib may be less clean than Pak Lah, does not excuse Pak Lah’s lax rule, anymore than Mahathir’s dictatorial and abusive rule excuses Najib’s blithering leadership. Today, honest Malaysians, for the most part, are to be found outside politics, and the very few honest politicians rarely remain so forever. Truly, in Malaysia, nothing that is good in politics, lasts very long or, in most instances, never happens in the first place.
Malaysia is not an Islamic state it is a secular state dominated by Malays who rule through deploying Islam and race to make money.Ethical leadership you must be mad
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Rose is ungrateful to the royal family. She attended and graduated from a royally-sponsored secondary and university education in Thailand. She committed serious criminal offenses of Article 112. The Thai Justice Minister, General Paiboon Koomchayam, is seeking cooperation from the British Government through extradition treaty to bring her back to face justice.
All these are partial stories. The core of the problem is thatThai monarchy is my large the strongest and mostimportant obstacle that prevents Thailand todevelop into a true democracy, with freedom ,equality and justice for all Thais, especially for the weaker and poorer sectors.Therefore it is right and proper that Thai monarchy should be overthrown and abolished forever
If ultra-rich then ok? Thaksin was ultra-rich; and according to Andrew MacGreggor Marshall wiki leaks-sourced tale, Thaksin was supplementing the Crown Prince’s extravagantastic cost-of-living with hundreds of millions of dollars yearly stipends skimmed from Thailand’s national lottery coffers, hand-carried by the Deputy Police Chief.
That Thaksin lottery scam wiki leaks story was enchantingly told, fairy-tale like, by Andrew Marshall to underscore Thaksin’s ├╝ber-magnanimity to thy CP of Thailand. But because that was the Thai Natonal Lottery being scammed, the poverty- monarchy correlation straw Rose was groping for but could not find, was in this wikileaks haystack after all.
Such god awful new colour they came up with for the military in Burma the CIC looks like a right old sissy in lime green. Makes you wonder if like the Mickey Mouse gold on the pagodas one of them or their family has imported tonnes of lorry loads of the fabric to dump on a captive market, in this instance the Tatmadaw. I guess it’s not just the US govt that gets ripped off by its defense contractors with shoddy gear.
The ancient custom is for soldiers to wear a piece of their mother’s htamein as a bandana into battle. To wear Mother Suu’s might not even be an insult or violation of this tradition.
Countless people vent their anger and openly swear at various members of the govt not least Thein Sein in very colourful language on Facebook.
Thailand is WAY WORSE than Myanmar today, 1000 times worse. In some aspects it’s even worse than China. Surely worse than Vietnam.
It is a reign of terror, where millions are in virtual SLAVERY (yes, slavery). Thai system today is not very different from the time of the serfs or even the ancient Egypt.
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Making Myanmar’s overseas vote count
Shouldn’t people from “Myanmar” be called “Myanmarese” (or “Myanmartians”)? Would that include all 135 different “ethnic enzymes”? Of course not counting the wretched Rohingyas!
Reassessing Myanmar’s poppy problem
Learned something from this. Nice work, homie.
Making Myanmar’s overseas vote count
Fly higher and see wider.
Choice of word is part of freedom. But that freedom has limit to be democratic.
Myanmar is officially known at the UN as ‘Myanmar’. The names ‘Burma’ and ‘Burmese’ are unrepresentative of the country and the people. Myanmar is a multi-ethnic state and ‘Bamar’ represents just one ethnic among others.
There are three things to consider here: opportunity, willingness and prepareness.
Every citizen abroad has been given equal opportunity to cast vote. Although some are willing to vote for the election, there are obstacles, such as, getting approval from the foreign employers, costs associated with traveling and concerns for deduction of wage. This is just naming a few. These obstacles may hamper prepareness. It is also to do with interest in politics.
Can we still label it window dressing?
Slaves! What a shame! Some scholars are still using obsolete term like ‘slaves’ echoing the voice of irresponsible usages.
There are only minds and matters on earth. All living things transformed into its intrinsic forms of organic and inorganic nature when they die. Live and death is a recursive process automating itself as long as the world as the substrate exists.
The Americans, the British people, the Israeli people, the Russians, the Japanese people, the Indians or the Chinese are just temporary projection of the earth. Who knows which form of matters an American or a Russian will take in their next projections? Just similar to different groups of enzymes develop over different substrate areas at different ambient conditions. Being a Myanmar is not to be ashamed of nor proud of.
Cara Menghasilkan Uang Dengan Bermain Dominoqq
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Why I speak out against the Thai Monarchy
Hazing is the abuse of lower members of a social hierarchy by higher ones. In small-time hierarchies it usually involves ceremonial that outsiders regard as silly, and wonder why the underlings put up with it. In Thailand the foolish rituals of monarchy are forced on the population with guns. In Canada they are ignored by most people, with only a few snobs taking any notice. Canada is a de jure dominion and a de facto republic.
Emjay greatly exaggerates the superiority of Canada over the US, when in fact two more similar countries would be very hard to find. People usually do that kind of thing out of small-town vanity and don’t even expect to be taken seriously.
Why I speak out against the Thai Monarchy
What do you mean by justice “when she has been brought back”?
Solving Malaysia’s economic crisis
This article is both interesting and informative, but I believe that the economic problems are the symptoms of a much deeper malaise (pun intended).The Ringgit is now worth about S$ 30sen, and the reasons are quite clear. Both Singapore and Malaysia have a similar racial mix, but in Singapore government is transparent, and promotion is based on merit. Malaysia’s cronyism and Apartheid policies prevent the best and brightest from attaining high office. The country is mismanaged at almost every level.
Land Transport is just one example, were freight costs are several times those of neighbouring Thailand, despite cheaper fuel. Road Tax is very high, and on top there are the excessive Highway Tolls (doubling costs!), and these are about to be increased further…totally unjustified, but PLUS is a “crony company”.
The Immigration Dept has become notoriously corrupt in the last few years; they are predatory, and extort money (sometimes large amounts) at every opportunity. What foreigner would invest money here after this type of abuse?
After 20 years in Thailand I thought that I could live with corruption, but after doing business here for one year, I am shocked and appalled. Coming here was a big mistake.
Why I speak out against the Thai Monarchy
Hazing, RN?
You really want to suggest that hazing is a deeply meaningful aberration in Thai culture and that it flows from the monarchy on down?
Like all “republican” fanboys you like to suggest, along with angry, resentful rich kids like Rose, that monarchy is itself the problem.
As a Canadian I am here to tell you that the Dominion of Canada is a far more successful liberal democracy than any republic on the face of the earth.
Our Constitution with the embedded Charter of Rights and Freedoms is a model for liberal democracies everywhere, unlike the tawdry confused document that has inevitably led to a gridlocked plutocracy just to the south of the the True North strong and free. (Of course, if the Harper administration, modeled as it is on the Republican party of the great republic, has its way that will not be the case for much longer.)
Up until 25-30 years ago, hazing was a major problem in both the US and Canada.
People were not only humiliated and battered but occasionally killed.
If you were to check with Google you would find that hazing has not disappeared from those countries.
I wonder how you would explain that in your diagnostic idiom.
Hierarchy and bullying and their embodiment in ritual are not unique to Thailand and the fact that they have been given a Thai patina does not change that fact.
I think hazing in Thailand, like cheerleading*, is an import from America, a racist, violent, hierarchical society that has embedded inequality in its national myth by calling it freedom.
Republic? Don’t make me laugh.
*I highly recommend Cheer Ambassadors btw. A fine insight into Thai-US cultural exchange.
Making Myanmar’s overseas vote count
Glad that this was brought up.
Agree that there should be more focus on these overseas Burmese. To say “overseas” seems to apply to those who would fall under the expat category more than the migrant category. Is it a bold statement to say that, perhaps, there are class issues involved in this distinction?
Case in point, in terms of raw numbers, I haven’t read of any estimate that pits the Burmese in Thailand at less than 2.4 million souls. http://thailand.worlded.org/files/2015/03/MESR-Policy-Brief.pdf
Add to this an additional 150 thousand or so refugees. My own estimates are much closer to 3 million. Whatever the number, obviously 99 percent of these Burmese fall into some type of migrant and/or refugee category and not the expat/overseas category.
But let’s low-ball the figure at 2 million Burmese in Thailand for the sake of argument. That’s more than the population of Kachin State (1.7m); or more than Kayah State (286k); or more than Karen State (1.6m); or more than Chin State (478k); or more than Tanintharyi Div (1.4m); or more than Naypyidaw (1.2m). Essentially, what this tells us is that the entire Kingdom of Thailand is more important than these divisions and states in terms of raw-numbers of potential voters who will end of being ignored. http://countryoffice.unfpa.org/myanmar/drive/SummmaryoftheProvisionalResults.pdf
Now, it would be one thing if these Burmese could vote in Thailand for Thai elections, but, alas, the Burmese are probably the last people on earth that the Thais would want to give some type of permanent citizenship to and, lest we forget, Thailand is a dictatorship.
In this sense, I suppose it’s nice to take a picture of oneself in front of an embassy at some “overseas” locale. Wow, look, democracy, yay! Now let’s go get this ink off our hands. But the truth is that unless the over 2 million Burmese migrant laborers and refugees (and slaves? remember that Guardian report on CP and shrimping….jeez)–unless this population gets to vote, the 30 thousand or so Burmese expats across the globe is nothing more than window dressing.
Making Myanmar’s overseas vote count
There are probably about 2 million migrant workers and refugees from Burma in Thailand and only about 300 are allowed to vote? What a farce! By the way, who picked those 300? Is there any discrimination about who is allowed to vote? Most Burmese who are studying in Australia probably belong to the privileged class. Democracy should not be based upon your wealth, your education, your job (skilled workers lol) your religion or even your skin colour!
The limits of big ‘P’ politics in Myanmar’s elections
[…] This article is extracted from two papers presented at the Myanmar Burma Update in Canberra, Australia (June 2015) and the International Conference on Burma Myanmar Studies in Chiang Mai, Thailand (July 2015), and has been cross-posted with New Mandala. […]
Cara Menghasilkan Uang Dengan Bermain Dominoqq
Since Tun Hussein Onn, none of Malaysia’s prime ministers have been clean. That Prime Minister Najib may be less clean than Pak Lah, does not excuse Pak Lah’s lax rule, anymore than Mahathir’s dictatorial and abusive rule excuses Najib’s blithering leadership. Today, honest Malaysians, for the most part, are to be found outside politics, and the very few honest politicians rarely remain so forever. Truly, in Malaysia, nothing that is good in politics, lasts very long or, in most instances, never happens in the first place.
Cara Menghasilkan Uang Dengan Bermain Dominoqq
Malaysia is not an Islamic state it is a secular state dominated by Malays who rule through deploying Islam and race to make money.Ethical leadership you must be mad
‘Lesbianism’ and detention in Aceh
[…] : Cindy Presne Source (Kate Walton*/New Mandala) : Lesbianism and Detention in Aceh Photo : Un affichage des lois de la charia en Indonésie. Johanes_r_prakoso / […]
Why I speak out against the Thai Monarchy
Rose is ungrateful to the royal family. She attended and graduated from a royally-sponsored secondary and university education in Thailand. She committed serious criminal offenses of Article 112. The Thai Justice Minister, General Paiboon Koomchayam, is seeking cooperation from the British Government through extradition treaty to bring her back to face justice.
Why I speak out against the Thai Monarchy
All these are partial stories. The core of the problem is thatThai monarchy is my large the strongest and mostimportant obstacle that prevents Thailand todevelop into a true democracy, with freedom ,equality and justice for all Thais, especially for the weaker and poorer sectors.Therefore it is right and proper that Thai monarchy should be overthrown and abolished forever
Why I speak out against the Thai Monarchy
If ultra-rich then ok? Thaksin was ultra-rich; and according to Andrew MacGreggor Marshall wiki leaks-sourced tale, Thaksin was supplementing the Crown Prince’s extravagantastic cost-of-living with hundreds of millions of dollars yearly stipends skimmed from Thailand’s national lottery coffers, hand-carried by the Deputy Police Chief.
That Thaksin lottery scam wiki leaks story was enchantingly told, fairy-tale like, by Andrew Marshall to underscore Thaksin’s ├╝ber-magnanimity to thy CP of Thailand. But because that was the Thai Natonal Lottery being scammed, the poverty- monarchy correlation straw Rose was groping for but could not find, was in this wikileaks haystack after all.
Southeast Asian snapshots
Such god awful new colour they came up with for the military in Burma the CIC looks like a right old sissy in lime green. Makes you wonder if like the Mickey Mouse gold on the pagodas one of them or their family has imported tonnes of lorry loads of the fabric to dump on a captive market, in this instance the Tatmadaw. I guess it’s not just the US govt that gets ripped off by its defense contractors with shoddy gear.
The ancient custom is for soldiers to wear a piece of their mother’s htamein as a bandana into battle. To wear Mother Suu’s might not even be an insult or violation of this tradition.
Countless people vent their anger and openly swear at various members of the govt not least Thein Sein in very colourful language on Facebook.
Dissent and dictatorship in Thailand
They killed hundreds at Thammasat….
Dissent and dictatorship in Thailand
Thailand is WAY WORSE than Myanmar today, 1000 times worse. In some aspects it’s even worse than China. Surely worse than Vietnam.
It is a reign of terror, where millions are in virtual SLAVERY (yes, slavery). Thai system today is not very different from the time of the serfs or even the ancient Egypt.